User talk:Fishiehelper2

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that anyone attempting to impose an unjustified agenda on an article as high profile as that, one being watched by 100s of other editors, is not plausible. Far from being 'gutted', the article has actually got bigger. Too big in the opinions of many, which is why editors have been focused on condensing content, removing material where not relevant, allowing sub-articles to absorb the detail where appropriate. The article is about the club, not the misdemeanours of the supporters, which is why it was deemed appropriate to correct the former imbalance that saw a section on sectarian incidents (involving fans, not the club) being 20 times larger than the section on the club's greatest period of domestic success, for instance. You clearly dedicated many hours of your time fighting for the two articles/two clubs approach and I respect your commitment and persistence in pushing that perspective, even if it ultimately proved in vain. In the same spirit, I hope you will respect the many hours myself, other editors, and most of all (by some distance) AndrewCrawford, have spent seeking to improve the article through consensus, balance, and firm reliance on sources, and not dismiss the situation so disparagingly with unjustified, throwaway insinuations about perceived "Rangers fans". If I have misread your intentions, I apologise in advance.

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have work to dowith references and some even today view them as a new club so the problem hasnt gone away liek some think, i have gave up in trying to keep the famine song in but ill admit it was me that got the section reduced an split but that becaus ei have been reading the ga review, peer reviews and since i ma trying to get FA i knew it had to change, but i have refused to allow the core priniplce of it to be removed, which are teh sources and what they say, for example prior to changing it, it was list of incidents which is more liek report news so someone condense them into one paragraph citing the refenreces. ill admit i aint happy witht eh article but i would be goign against consensus to force achange a new one that basically says reformed will have to be gained i have tried 4 times and every time it is reerted i even took the step of making it a reference note so it owuldnt be glarying int eh infobox liek some fans dnt want it to, but there still be footnote at the bottom of the page, but as i say i go with consensus and sources, that why i wont let it be censored completely anything removed that the source say expliting i revert

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history you seem to be of Nationalist/anti-union political persuasion and, considering Rangers associations to unionism, am I right in suggesting this is your main motivation? I have enjoyed offering a rival perspective and have often found your contributions, even when I've been in direct disagreement, robust and challenging to counter. The matter has, at least to observers like ourselves who taken the time to research in detail into the many issues, been resolved quite conclusively, and positively, from my own perspective - perhaps setting a precedent to other indebted clubs, whether that would be good or bad for the game, who knows? Is there a certain "end game" which you are pursuing regarding the Rangers article? If it is to reopen the whole debate at some point I would be strongly against that, for time-keeping reasons more than anything! However, if it is to ensure this matter is not simply swept under the carpet by those who, quite rightly, feel embarrassed at their club's fall from grace, I can assure you it's a concern I also share.

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by reverting the good faith edits of other Wikipedians. Many of us are simply eager and enthusiastic amateurs, not drilled in all of Knowledge's administrative nuances. 'Chrisieboy' does not even use readily understood language, preferring the prepubescent playground language of Knowledge, which substitutes perfectly unequivocal terminology with puerile esoteric terms, understood only by those whose rather sad lives revolve only around eating, defecating and Wikepedia. It could have been such good educational fun, with the added benefit of well researched and occasional edits. I thought I was a lone 'reprobate', until I revisited Chrisieboy's talk page one year on. It is now clear that Chrisieboy brings a storm to every port he visits. I will now sign off from Knowledge for good. Unlike the cyber marauding 'Chrisieboy', I have a very full life without Knowledge.

113:, the current state was founded in the Acts of Union 1801 (and its name changed in 1927 to reflect its reduced territory). Listing the Anglo-Irish Treaty also seems out of place if the infobox is only intended to list the founding of the state and no background, as the Irish cessation did not create two new states, it created one new one but left the old one of 1801 unchanged (though five years later it changed its name to reflect its reduced territory). So maybe for consistency only the Acts of Union 1801 should be listed in the United Kingdom infobox and the period 1707 to 1801 should be left to the dedicated Kingdom of Great Britain article? I think at the very least my note that the date of formation was 1 January 1801 should be left, otherwise it is left unclear to the reader whether the actual modern state was found in 1707, 1801 or 1922.-- 4581:

doubt it isa new club i support it, if ou notice i edit the newco rangers aritcle and try keep it right as well because i believe that is what the case is but i cant just ingore sources saying toher wise for the rangers fc article this isnt me attacking you but i dnt think any us understand coopration and hwo it works jsut look at big business and what they get away with at times, also because rangers siuttion is nota simple one even teh amdinsitrator have said as witht eh liduaitors it is quite complex means we cant rush things, when people point you to fiortina,leed and middleborugh article and hwo they dealt with liqudiation you think it hsouldnt be done like that but no one know trutly whats going on i think it time the pople who can answer these question publish a statement and amek ti clear then we can make wikipedia right

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removed the bit i put about potential title stripping which i need to readd until it confirm if it will happen, although some are taking the question as a consensus i aint that whyt i said not with a consensus i am workng on potential consensus is changing but i wont call it i have got some input frpom outsisde people with no knowledge of this what i will do is as a admin next week to close it and say if there is a consensus if there is good if not we need to work on getting but this is a step forward although i might not do it after today personal attack on me. the sandbox isd that just for testing or work on a improvement it doesnt mean it will ever go live if after a admin closes it and it no consensus i will revert the sandbox back tp version prior to my edits.

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having a separate article on the detail for Scotland, but I would suggest that this should be a subsidiary one to the UK (now England) article. You will see that I have put a requested move on the English article. Perhaps we should continue the discussion there. The external link on the Scotland page unfortunately lacks detail on the turnpike era in Scotland; its reference to parish labour sounds too like the 16th century English Act for me to be convinced it is right, but it may be. I would like to see how the Scottish article develops before making a final judgment. I also suspect that one article on the whole of Ireland will be better than with the post-1922 Northern Ireland/Republic split, as I would guess that any tolls there belong to the turnpike era.

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sources it unfortnat the sources wont stick to one side and not jump on both sides but we will have ot deal with it and that what we are moving towards, oh are you sure it was sold to sevco 5088 and then move to sevco scotland from what i have read it went directly to sevco scotland, it was meant to go to sevco 5088 but didnt i think we should source that so it clear that it did happen i coudl easily be wrong im goign to start the process off covnerting to cite so if we can geta consensus for it the article will be near GA status as well, ive already got AWB to fix a lot fo the errors in teh article. something i foudn interesting is i brought the rangers articles to ANI and someone comment it can say both--

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and that, as the key sources now recognised Rangers FC as having remained in existence, Knowledge should reflect this reality. I thought you would be dignified enough to admit defeat and accept that your particular perception of the situation, even if not incorrect, was at the very least in opposition to consensus, and not supported by current key sources. However, you seem intent on - for some unknown reason - continuing to push your perspective when it is clear that your attempts to cast doubt on the status of Rangers FC are entirely futile. I am disappointed and can only hope that you recognise that flogging a dead horse in this manner achieves nothing positive for anyone, or the site in general.

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to an extent regarding the inclusion of the famine song incident, which I pushed for inclusion within the 'sectarian singing' section, but was resisted by an argument that it wasn't technically 'sectarian' on the grounds, spurious in my opinion, that there was no religious content. On the other side of the divide, other editors said the entire section should be renamed in include 'Racism' just to include reference to the chant, which I conversely opposed on the grounds of undue weight. Rarely a dull day on that page, although if I understand it correctly, 1RR has now been introduced, which has calmed things down considerably, which I think was the intention!

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14th June. While the club{reference to go here} and some media{reference to go here} outlets sees it as a continuation of the club officially founded in 1873 and that only the company that ran the club The Rangers Football Club PLC that is liquidated{reference to go here}, others view the relaunched Rangers as a new club{reference to go here} as it seen as the club is liquidated{reference to go here}. Scottish Premier League clubs voted against accepting the relaunched club into the top flight but it was accepted as an associate member of the Scottish Football League, starting in the bottom division."

7372:(if you ignore the self-promotional tone, given it's the website of the lawyers who progressed the takeover by the DFCRG via the DFC1883 company) gives a fair overview of the timeline. It's unusual writing about the beginnings of a football club, but I'd suggest the 1883 page be structured along the lines of any other football club page, with a chronological history section that includes both of, but doesn't put undue emphasis on either of, its following on from DFC and its being a new club. In a few years' time, there'll hopefully be more football and less legalities... 2674:. I'm flattered to be asked to take a look, though the article is about something I have absolutely no knowledge! On first reading, it seems a well written article, with appropriate references to support the claims. The only comment I have is about expressing dates in terms of 'BP (Before Present)' rather than in terms of BC or even BCE - I confess I have never seen 'BP' before! As for the possible tautology, I'm not convinced it is - It appears, to me, that it reads well enough as it is. I would certainly encourage you to have a crack. Hope that's of some use! Cheers 8054: 7406: 2748: 3145: 4361:. Is it not fair to describe the old Rangers club as defunct yet? A ship being decommissioned will be defunct before the last rivets are hoiked out. In the same way, forensic accountants will be soon be going through Rangers' remnants with a fine toothcomb, but surely that doesn't mean they are still functional until that process is completed. They no longer have any assets, players etc. hence they are not funct - they are de-funct! That's my understanding anyway? Cheers, 5597: 7582: 136:. So by your definition of the state founding date only, still the Acts of Union 1707 is invalid, furthermore, having the Anglo-Irish treaty in the infobox still does not fit with your idea that only the state founding date should be in the infobox. I think it is important that if we document two of the three major unions, we should document the first one (or be consistent and only document the one relevant to the current state, for example, the article on the 8734: 8626: 8572: 8177: 7732: 5454: 2150: 941: 8278: 3558:

ever been early, it makes sense to assume the date for the next one won't change. However there is less certainty about the date of the next Westminster election. It would run counter to our policy on "crystal balling" to assume 2015 would be the definite date. I would either a) open this discussion to a wider audience and find consensus, or b) just wait until we are closer to having guaranteed assurance that the polling date has been decided.

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by following a link to whatever health service they wish to understand more. My only problem with your second addition was that it could confuse readers as it was written in a way that gave the impression that the NHS was a single system. Just because the guardian wishes to add up the spending of the four health services to give a total does not mean that it is helpful to readers to present the information in that way. Regards

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of the club, the oldco the membership is assesst just like the spl share but it can not be sold durectly without the approval of the sfa. the newco are trying to get the transfer of the club membership to them so they still own the club, but if the sfa refuse or newco refuses the terms of the tranfer the neco will have to form a new club and make a plication to register as a new club but this is not wha tthey have done ye.

3016: 2878: 2529: 2462: 714:(SMC) has the role of providing advice to NHS Boards and their Area Drug and Therapeutics Committees (ADTCs) about all newly licensed medicines. It seeks to supply advice within 12 weeks of a new medicine being licenced to ensure that patients would could benefit can get access to the medinine as quickly as possible. The speed of the process has allowed the SMC to be compared favourably against the performance of the 7075: 6985: 6911: 3719: 3318: 891: 229: 2655:. If you have the time, would you mind taking a look? I would welcome some feedback before requesting a full peer review (and being officially humiliated). By the by, is "at an elevation of about 50 feet (15 m) above sea level" a tautology? If so, would you delete 'elevation' or 'above sea level'? Please let me know if you'd rather not, or don't have the time. I won't be offended. Thanks, 4795:

think i will have to say there needs to be x number of votes that how afds work a vote even if wikipedia doesnt define it as such, if a afds gets enough keeps or deletes merge over the other options then it will be done so in esscense that is a vote with a percentage cut off, just looking for the exact part of wikipedia policy it says as such and i will update15:31, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

885: 3095:. I do not think there have been many in Northern Ireland since 1922 (or Republic of Ireland), so that any Irish article will be much better dealt with as a whole Ireland article. I think the reason that little is said about Scotland is that there never have been made toll roads there (except the Skye Bridge). I would not oppose moving the English article to 407:, and it was only from that point that the King was styled as of the Great Britain (and only after the Act of Union 1800, that the style was King of the United Kingdom). So Charles I was Charles I of England, also Charles I of Scotland, and had various other names besides, I do not doubt. Knowledge does not have sufficient freedom to use all of his titles as 7347:

to remove the brief outline of DFC's history as irrelevant removes the background to 1883's formation. Rewriting history to suit a particular point of view does the readers a disservice. Maybe the article as was leant too much towards the DFC fans viewpoint, I wouldn't dispute that, but there's rather more to 1883's foundation than a corporate takeover.

2814:- Lead - 2nd sentence. It clearly belongs in your article. I think removing fair content is inappropriate as you and a subsequent editor (with a very pointy edit summary) have done. If you are the experts in the article feel free to put it where you want. It has to be relevant to the politics of your country and the info. box does not accomodate it. 6377:

removing something so common on football club articles? Have you gone around articles of all football clubs with complicated ownership structures and changed this? The holding company runs everything about the club including paying the employees which include managers, players etc, so do we start doubting whether they should be listed as well now?

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will consider indefintite so forcing everyone to agree a comprise and way forward barring that i think we will have to go with request for comment and head to arbcom i really thought we might be moving forward but some users will not just agree both is correct , im not goign to give up jsut yet but i dnt see alight at the end of the tunnel--

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annoyed that instead of waiting user are just rushing. i plan to take the dispute further until we can get conesus on it i aint really bothered if it the current way or the other way just want it to be cleared voted on like afd and then we can all point to it for future and no one can then dispute it unless conesus changes

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already referenced, in a form appropriate to the layout of the article. One concise sentence in the opening paragraph is a possibiliy, but I cannot think of any sentence that would encapsulate the dispute adequately and not appear long-winded and out of place, which the current sandbox version overly is.

5414:. You have been reverted 4 times now on this now and have made no attempt to defend your change. Please stop putting it back in. Murray Park is used as a training ground by Rangers. Hair-splitting over the company name that owns it is pointless detail of little relevance to this article. Thanks. -- 6172:

Thanks for the reply. I think "reformed" should be avoided - its strongly associated with "phoenix clubs" that are formally recognised as new clubs, have to have new names, new badges etc. I understand why Rangers supporters would want to make a clear distinction between their own case and this other

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This post is simple curiosity, and can be ignored if you wish, but I am genuinely interested in what motivates your continuing interest in Rangers Football Club articles. You are clearly not a supporter of the club, but also do not appear to be interested in any rival clubs. Looking back through your

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Do you think it might be time for you to ease off the Rangers pages a little. While I'm all for giving big clubs a bit of a kicking once they're down :) I think you're maybe getting a bit too caught up in all this, fighting over little details, battling to get contensious words in, etc. Maybe time to

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at the moment the article has been changed by a admin to say the club is the same as the one that was in the spl last season potential abouit to play in div3, what i am trying to do with the sandbox is make a version that says its the same club but aqlkso regarded as a new club if ou notice ricky has

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email the sfa to ask them to explain the sitution ask them is the servo scotland applicaiton anew club? ask them doies the rangers fc history carry onto servco scotland rangers fc and is the club the company, alothiugh your email cant be used here you can at least post a imag eof it and then we might

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No i will try explaining again i suck at this type of thing, ok. we will call The Rangers Football Club PLC as oldco, Rangers F.C. as the club, Servo Scotland as newco. New rangers as newclub currently the oldco is in teh hands of the administrator soon liquidators, the oldco holds the sfa membership

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are almost all about England which reinforces the idea that England and the UK are the same thing. I would like to see England getting more appropriate recognition and this would be helped if the 'year in the United Kingdom' articles only dealt with genuinely UK news issues, and English items were in

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I abandoned my former pleasurable pursuit in Knowledge, having been hounded out by the vexatious 'Chrisieboy'. The omnipresent 'Chrisieboy' lurks in all of Knowledge's dark crevices, like a voyeuristic predator, waiting to pounce. 'Chrisieboy' has a predilection for feeding his insatiable megalomania

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I have reinstated that. It is clearly relevant to the article and IMO the lead. It's in the Welsh article in the same place, so if you think it's incorrect in Scotland move it from Wales too. I would prefer that you discussed this on the talk page rather than removing content you don't like. regards.

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becuase I can find no evidence that in Northern Ireland that the health care services are commonly referred to as the NHS. Yes, the some BBC reports and I am sure others will occasionally use the term NHS as shorthand for Health and Social Care Northern Ireland, but these are EXCEPTIONS. They are not

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Hi, I undid your changes because I think it is important to retain the distinction between the pre-arab and the Post-Arab periods, especially for Moslem readers. However your changes struck me as constructive and I tried to correct the text accordingly where it was relevant. I haven't quite finished

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It would certainly fit the criteria of a country with this source and others to back it up. My discussions have centered around the home countries, as I know more on this subject, but any land in the world which has plentiful verifiable sources to back their country claims should be included. Whether

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I've seen an awful lot of overlap between you and a series of ip addresses that begin "86.157", and although you're a hardworking respectable editor, I have had my suspicions for a while now. The correlation between you and these ips is compelling by way of the topics editted, the times when editting

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Thanks for getting in touch! I am quite new to all this and I'm trying to learn as I go along - often by checking what has been done and copying methods. Using standardized citations looks quite daunting!!! By the way, I like your user page - I spent two minutes looking over it and I think I know you

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article "The Kingdom of Great Britain, also known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain, was a state in northwest Europe, in existence from 1707 to 1801.". If you take the alternate name of the Kingdom of Great Britain, the United Kingdom of Great Britain, then of course there was an entity with the

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Sorry - I have not used rollback for ages and forgot I couldn't give a comment for my action. I didn't like your first edit as it is unnecessary to split this article into sections. This article should serve as a general explanation page and then allow the readers to go into more detail if they wish

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Thanks for your reply. The reason there are separate articles is because someone wrote an article for the new club and nobody bothered to argue; it isn't any sort of Knowledge policy. Whether there are separate articles or not tends to be a function of hindsight; if history views two (or more) clubs

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Hello. I did suggest going to the article talk page, but here'll do. I think the problem is that the changes you were making read as if you were trying to rewrite the article to eliminate any connection with DFC. If there had been no DFC, and it had not failed financially, there would be no 1883, so

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Hello. You have contributed to the Newco Rangers article so I thought yuou should be made aware that an attempt is being made to undermine this article by pushing through a 'same club' approach despite many of us believing this is heavily biased and very selective use of the sources. You may wish to

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seems fine to me but maybe a bit of a alterration "While the club and some media outlets sees it as a continuation of the club officially founded in 1873, others view the relaunched Rangers as a new club." but put suport evidence ie reference to both points well all three points, so a statement from

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I've supplied sources within my edits to provide proof that an SFL members doesn't have to be a club (it can meerely be an association), it also provides evidence within the rules that any successful SFL application is "CONDITIONAL" upon being granted SFA membership. Unless you can refute this with

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ok rangers are not officially liquidated yet so do you not think it was a bit premature to make the ne article until they are as they could be saved in the same way. personally i dnt see there is any idiot out there that will pay the 150m debt out of there own pockets so will be liquidated i am more

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but john just as many sources that say the club are company are serperate say the club is getting dissolved the problem is no one knows, although fisher might have taken recently to editing all rangers articles he hasnt done anything wrong apart from possible using POV , he is reporting what sources

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There is no consensus amongst regular editors for the article title to be changed, or the article to be moved. I agree that other assemblies may be treated different here, but how one article is named is not necessarily how others must also be treated. Given that no Scottish Parliament election has

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I have been watching your interference for sometime. Under the guise of disambiguation you have deleted valuable information. It was a well presented readable article without any bias. I do not know your background. Please do not behave like a self appointed scholar of Hinduism in the UK because you

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Hi guys, What is good: Scotland is defined as a country. What isn't: England & Wales is defined as a country. It obviously relates to jurisdictions, but it is progress of sorts. Two steps forward, one/(two) step/(s) back. I fear it's too late to save the country articles now anyway. Perhaps in a

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as sufficiently closely related that it would be confusing to treat them separately, then they share a page. The FA's rules required what became 1883 to be treated as a new club, and consequently required the name change. But I don't think you need to be a Darlington fan to see they share a history.

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nothing wrong with what you did, but because of the subject regarding the history its is bold, i dnt have any objection but it need to be reqorded in that section i think your right it appioratte it noted the history is disputed so to say, but at the same time what you moved need to remain where it

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on it. Why do you thing removing that information will improve the article? I hope that this is not a case of the new boy coming along (I've been reverted twice now with this info) and those who have been around for a while thinking they have authority to do as they wish. Either way I'll be keeping

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I disagree that an impression is given that sectarian chanting no longer occurs, there is no content that states that explicitly or implicitly, with cited examples of notable incidents provided up to 2011. I would oppose any such suggestion, which of course would be entirely incorrect. I sympathise

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However if the dispute regarding identity was adequately referenced in a more appropriate location within a sub-section, editors would not be justified in rewriting anything. Any such attempts could easily be rebuffed simply by pointing out the dispute they were presumably trying to weigh in on was

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In the spirit of consensus which I have promoted in order to resolve this dispute, in contrast perhaps to others who share my over-riding position, the compromise position would perhaps be referencing the identity dispute in the form of a specific sub-section, or as part of the "Relaunched Club..."

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As mentioned in the talk page, I strongly believe a long winded reference to the dispute within the opening paragraph is wholly out of place and inappropriate. Although the "new club vs same club" dispute is obviously relevant to Wikipedians discussing the page content, to the ordinary user who has

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commonly known as Rangers F.C. is a football club based in Glasgow, set to play in Division 3 of the Scottish Football League. The club's home is the all-seated 51,082-capacity Ibrox Stadium in south-west Glasgow. The club was relaunched in 2012 after the previous incarnation entered liquidation on

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i just thought of one other thign we might want to do, since even sources sometimes say it the plc and sometimes the club maybe we should list it as such ill try makea amendent with a reference for both sides and if oyu can tidy it up i appericate it, if it doesnt make sense or i misread the osurce

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im not giving up on the sandbox if we can get a version that present both and the ones who object can give valid reasons we can be bold and then request it be done, if we are no nearer gettinga consenssus to merge and label as both ill ask for the to be exteneded and speak to the admins see if they

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this is a big thank you for now agreeing to work on a nutral one article that represent both sides, we might still havea few disagreements on the way to forming it but that the process of wikipedia article disagreement and comprise to reach a consensus on enuitral article, because we are goign with

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can you point me to the policy that says gaining a consensus via a vote cant be done? secondly would you not say if there is a majority supporting one side or the other that isa consensus, i will update teh talk topic to reflect different just what i have read a vote does count as a consensus but i

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can you take your chnges to talk so it clear people are agreeing on teh changes, i dnt have anything against your changes but the page hopefully will be fulyl proctected soon and all changes need discussed there then, just dnt want to have to rever tany your edits if someone else makes changes that

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I wish you can show more good faith to editors who are experts on a certain subject. Myeslf and Slaversten have made hundreds of edits to the EDL article and have collaborrated for a long time together. You come along and disregard our voice which i feel like that is disrespectful and insulting. An

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I don't think it would be biased. Removing "occupied" is not biased towards either side. To simply put "East Jerusalem" is quite enough, as it is universally understood that both sides claim it, and that the legality of Israel's annexation is disputed. To put "occupied" implies that the Palestinian

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All I asked was that you remove the word "occupied". I understand that most sources refer to East Jerusalem differently from Jerusalem, and BBC is a relatively reliable organization, so we can use that source. Just keep in mind that on such a hotly debated and controversial topic, it is best not to

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Hi. Just thought I would let you know that I am just doing a bit of a clean-up and rearrangement of this page, as flagged on the talkpage. I hope to post soon, but I am a bit worried that I might lose some of your fixes and corrections, or that they may be wasted as a lot of the repetitious text is

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Very strange indeed, and I feel guilty for asking now. The connection was so profound that I had to. I did think it would be odd that you were editting as an ip, then as your ID - it didn't ring right in my heart but my head kept saying this is the same person! Again, I apologise and I'll watch out

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Just to get things out in the open, are you editting with ip addresses as well as your registered account? I have to ask because I believe some of these ips are damaging Knowledge and if I was to block them and not be aware of a connection, you could also be blocked indirectly. I'm sure you can see

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Where as I previously respected we had a difference of opinion, I have now lost respect for you as an editor as I now believe your contributions are aimed only at disrupting. I had gained the impression that, although you did not yourself agree, you had recognised that a consensus had been reached

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rangers not neccessraily from there site, a source that states it as the same club, and source saying it is a new club, that way it clear that the media is split on it, we could of put hundred of refenrece to it but it would jsut add undue weight 1 for each would be enough as long as there reliable

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Since it is a few editors on both sides of the ragument tht are not willign to accept that wikipedia is made from reliable sources and reliable sources are as you put it on the opposite side of the fence, we report them for topic bans so they can not particapte in the discussion allowing us to ove

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i hope that wordign can be allowed to, we are not saying the club is alive or it is dead we are showign what the sources say and that is what wikipedia is all about the editors who refuse to accept that can be reported for being disruptuive, that fact we are trying to find comprise if the ones who

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have i ever said the numebr of supporter matter? i couldnt care less if they had 2 billion supporter, i only care that wikipedia article represent it correctly whether that makes rangers fans happy or rival happy i dnt care what they think i just report what it says in teh sources i really wish it

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Rangers are not in liquidation, because a liquidator has not been appointed by court order. The administrator (Duff & Phelps) said last week that they will still be in place for the next several weeks. The failure of the CVA proposal last week means Rangers FC plc will be liquidated, but it is

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I suppose the acid test for an article is if it were on a subject about which one knows nothing, one finds it interesting and leaves better informed. I hope that was the case. I asked for your input as I have always found your grammar and prose to be of the highest quality. If you saw anything you

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The NHS is the National Health Service of the United Kingdom. It was invented by the government of the United Kingdom. The UK government retains substantial control over the entireity of the service. It is only since devolution (c.1997) that the system has fragmented. I think it is unwise to claim

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Hey Mr.West As soon as my little brother told me that you had a wikipedia i though i should join and talk to you.After i passed my higher Modern i went to university and did my teaching course i am now a teacher (modern Studies) on my course. I am based in Aberdeen just now only for a year. I just

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Shocked to say the least. Spiriofstgeorge messaged me in 2011 about working on 'years' articles so it should not be a surprise that we are both interested in those articles. Anyway, if some editors don't welcome my many contributions over many years, so be it - I have plenty other things I can be

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I couldn't help noticing the message you left on another users page regarding concerns you have about the Rangers article, so if you don't mind I will respond to provide my perspective. The article is not some kind of hatchet job by supporters of the club, as an experienced editor you should know

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hiya, i know i was away for the weekend when the protection lifted and by the time i got back it was changed, i have just went with what seems toeb the consenus, but i have insisted on certains aspects remains but i have still meet resistence but now my aim is to get the article to FA, so i still

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can you quote the bit from the herald i cant read it becaus ei have viewed to main article shtis month lol, i might be able to view it from gogole or somethign but if you can paste the section i be grateful, dnt doubt what you saying and i say it be reasonable to say the media dnt want to call it

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there is also things on teh sfa website that says the plc ons the club, that is the point i have been making the whole time wikipeida realie on sources and source contradicitng each other even to the point the same source says two different things, i agree if we can estbalish with source beyond a

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Hi there. I confess I don't know enough about what the politics and general studies courses in England cover, so I would only be guessing if I gave an opinion. Having said that, information about the all the courses should be available on-line so it should not be too difficult to find out. Cheers

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says that when something has no source, then it can be deleted without warning. (Of course, it can also be discussed on the talk page.) This means that in the future, anything you see that is tagged with citation needed can be deleted for WP:V. I don't know if this is overkill, but I thought this

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I understand the idea that only the actual state founding should be listed in the formation section of the infobox of the United Kingdom article and nothing else, however the infobox also seems to give historical background to the state by listing important events. For if it were just to list the

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just a suggest for you all, sicne i think this topic will come back up, change the secterainism chanting to bigortie chanting that would covers anytihng in intorlance to another beliefe, i wont really take part in the discussion ive got mroe work on the article to do and some of the template the

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i dnt think the 1RR has cam in for that it to do with another subject but it be touchy to to do reverting on that section mroe than once. but my point i was goign to make is the famine song is by the scottish courts racist, not secteran directly, the problem is how to include that without giving

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i have been making changes as with other user trying to achive a form that everyone agress since some changes are pretty big in my opinion and your on the opppisite side of the fence so to say your input is as valid to me as everyone else, once we can get a version we can all agree on we need ot

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you have a point it wouldnt settle the long term dispute, but if once we create a article that is one that says both and any of those users reject we might need to report them as there then being disruptive and not following the basic wikipeida prinicals of consensus, verifiability, and reliable

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then toll roads in UK, then turnpike trusts. On looking at the Scottish article, I found that there was an external link, indicating that there had been turnpike trusts in Scotland, which I had not realised. As Scottish law and English law have always been different, there may well be merit in

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My concern now is that I've just challenged one ip. Now it's the second time I've challenged such an ip, and its regarding a distinctive editting style where UK topics are essencially turned into disambiguation pages, with rather odd lists in the lead section. Of course, you would be respectable

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If you are returning to read my reply, here it is! The NHS in England and Wales was set up by separate legislation from the NHS in Scotland, though both systems took effect on the same date in 1948. The Welsh system was separated from the English system prior to political devolution. Therefore

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I do accept the ambiguity which is why I feel having the title as 'holding company board of directors' would be a good compromise. Someone like Charles Green is in the media all the time referred to as the 'Rangers chief executive' or along those lines, talking about club business and how he is

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i think we should look to change a lot of the reference where possible to be not primary sources but for now as we work on makign the neutral article we should use whatever ones we can find but logn term before putting it lvie i rather we swithc to reliable 3rd partry ones so ther eno disputing

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Thank you for the compliment on my user page! I'm always happy to help anyone out in any way that I can, feel free to ask anytime. Citation templates are actually quite easy to use, you just fill in the parts you are able to and erase the rest. I suppose the link to the overview page of all the

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Hi Fishiehelper2, I hope you read my comment at Talk: Post-abortion syndrome. I just thought it would be important to remind you especially since you seem like a new editor. You said that if something is true, then it shouldn't need any sources to back up the claim. I just thought it would be a

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Fishie, the season article has been like that from the start, this is the first time the issue has been disputed, it even stayed for a while on the main page until you brought it up. I'm not an awfully experienced wiki campaigner but is there not some onus on you to try and get a consensus for

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I am afraid we will have to disagree; the club is not tied to the company. The company is a body corporate and the club is a less tangible (if that were possible) entity, involving history and symbolism. Conflicting sources indicate different view points based upon, largely, the authors

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The team that trains at Murray Park is the Rangers team. This is what people want to know and is the primary fact that the article should lead with. Adding confusing detail about which company owns it is of very little relevance to the lead sentence of the article and is verging on

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do you think the baove is neutral and makes sense? i think we have to be clear that the media are spliting on it, and that there view that teh company that ran the club is lqiudiated only and that a view is the club was the company that way no one can say we are being biased to one

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it should be located at the English title. Contrary to the summary you gave (that it is a mere translation), Glasgow Gaelic School is the official name used in English documents and media. I have requested a technical move to move it back to the English name for this reason.

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I usually can't be arsed with nonsense like this, but I know that several years back you decided to tackle the dafter extremes of this "England = Yookay" phenomenon in the (related, but higher profile) healthcare articles, so feel free to contribute your accumulated wisdom.

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does that seem neutral to oyu.and clear and consius? i still need to put referenes in which supoprts both sides but that way we are not saying the club is liqudiated but we ar ento saying it isnt as the sources refer to both. if it aint fine either revert it or try improve

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be able ot all agree then all we need ot do is get the sfa to make a public annoucement on it, i cant answer how they where a meber prior to 1899 but if superbhoy is right they wher enot a memebr since he says it has to be company to compete you really need to email the sfa

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Not saying I don't agree with all your edits, but just that you're maybe getting a bit too close to this one. Some of your edits are in danger of being disruptive, such as "Murray Park is the training ground of the association football team referred to as Newco Rangers"

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That's ok. It appears that someone has started off and helped you out. Maybe next time you should create and article that already has some links to it, so that way it won't get posted for a speedy deletion. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me! Happy holidays!

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going, since I am working from what is now an older version. Just to let you know it might be a good idea to hang fire on this one for a couple of days and then lend your skills to fixing what will be, I am afraid, still a pretty problematic article. All the best.--

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is, i would reocmmend gettinga ocnsensus or you will have others saying your being biased im not so dnt worry i am more protecting what your doing :) that why i removed the directors for now because it disputed again and it better removed that content warred

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please correc tht rangers fc talk post it wasnt me who said anytihng about wha tyoru quoting it was ricky or excape orbit your making me out to be the one that not goign by wikipedia policies and goign on my point of view which is the exact oppisite to most

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The history of the club remains with the club, so the club moves from Rangers Plc into the new company and all of the titles and 140-year history will remain with the club. That was part of the two-stage process we set up with Charles Green all those weeks

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They initially seem like a fork of United Kingdom years. But I guess given that the other sub entities have their own pages with unique content. So long as they are expanded with details beyond what there is initially otherwise they are quite redundant.♦

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Just a few words to thank you for taking on board what I said before about the original intent this article and the need to ensure that it did not linger too much on the variations amongst the various systems. I think the article reads much better now.

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Firearm-related crime is only about 10-20% of all violent crime. My cite request is for the claim that the US has a higher level of violent crime in general, compared to the rest of the developed world. I have read research that this is not the case.

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category of clubs. I prefer a word you originally introduced, "relaunched". Less baggage from prior association but still makes the point. I think its right to remain vigilant. When experienced editors like Clavdia Chauchat are stating views like this

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Are you sure on London? I thought it had additional powers, but the Assembly web site is no help. Agree on co-operation by the way. Today has been a pleasant change from edit wars, just an iterative process of improvement between several editors.

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no problem we all make mistakes me more than most jut dnt want to be see as taking sides as i am trying to be more neutral now if i had the skills i would mediate and try get a cones us on it but i dnt so that why i a processing through the dispute

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As to templates, the new club is relevant to DFC, so it appears on that template. Likewise the category. If you want to invent a new almost-contentless navbox for an eighth-tier club, I'm not going to stop you, but I don't see the point. cheers,

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I hadn't thought about it until your message - now that I have thought about it, I suppose Northern Irish people are either 'British' or 'Irish'. I suppose it depends on whether we view 'British' as being from Britain or from the British Isles.

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so in summary accoridn gto the sfa oldco holds the club and newco has to get hter eapproval for it to move, if that happens the club cntuies as it was for the last 140 years if they refuse or newco dnt accept it it is thena new club udenr sfa

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Hi there whoever you are. My last edit was 12th April which I explained at the time as "removing opinion (unless someone can cite evidence that "it attracts more, younger members". That is not 'deleting information for the sake of it'. Cheers

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in south-west Glasgow. The club was relaunched in 2012 after the previous incarnation entered liquidation on 14th June but it is unclear whether it is only the company The Rangers Football Club PLC or the club that is being liquidated."

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In fact, the claim from George W Bush that Iraq had WMDs and WAS planning to attack other nations was part of the justification for the invasion. I agree with you that they weren't, but is that not at least slightly a retrospective view?

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to make Rangers start in the third division. You seem to think that they just "decided" to do so. How did they decide on this? Did they flip a coin perhaps? Did they play lowest card plays in the third division maybe? No, they actually

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This could all be a terrible co-incidence, but look at this evidence yourself objectively and tell me I shouldn't be concerned (!). Yes sometimes we get logged out, and forget to sign in, but some of these edits look like tag-teaming.

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Some of these UK topics could be great. But currently, they're being slowly squeezed into a disambiguation for the home nations, and how different they are from one another. I think that's an unacceptble career for an ip to take on

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No consensus was reached for your point of view on the situation either, the relevant discussions actually seemed to have more agreeing with me. This is a very sinister way to try and solve it. Sparhelda 23:14, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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who also agrees on lack of notability. You barely reply to any issues i raise, and you come to a subject you have barely ever edited and think you know better than people who have edited there for years. Next time please respect

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I hope my ideas help you out a bit. Looking at how others have done things is a great way to learn (I do it myself often) but also feel free to ask other editors any questions you may have too. A good resource for that is the

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again i dnt think there is a consensus yet but it is changing what to time will tell give me a day or two to update uit i cant do it in one big go alsi sandbox allows me to add stuff and someone to copyedit before going

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I should have objected when the move was done. What I am looking for is an overview article covering UK (or GB). I have never heard of toll roads in Wales before 1535. The largest body of material is located at

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I'll try and track it down. Last time I saw the stats (about 6 weeks ago) I believe it was third. It's certain to still be in the top ten, as I'm sure you can imagine. Leave it with me and I'll get back to you. :)

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I'll be remaining vigilant. I hope to start expanding into creating some new articles, mountain walking is my main interest, but still a virgin in that respect! Took far too long to get interested in Knowledge.

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the answer to your question is oldco owns teh sfa membership share same with spl share but thewco cant buy the share from teh oldco itsd not assesst that can be bought like that sfa has to agre to the trasnfer

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propose it to others and then make changes from there, edinburhg ander madea good point to me we need to fill it with loads of sources and if neccessary primary one so thre no disputing the combined article--

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maybe give us time once we get to a point both me and fisher agree it represent both sides we can the start looking at undue weight and move stuff around but lets get the content that going oin sorted first--

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leads to a subpage of your user page where you can work on an article to your heart's content with it being very unlikely that it would be deleted. When the article is ready for "prime time", you can use the

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i have requested at the admins who put the protection in place to extend by at least ano9ther week for both article and explain we are trying tog et neutral article that reflects both sides of the argument--

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editor who has been here for as long as yourself should know better. You also waste a lot of time and effort which could be spent oin better ways. You also disregard the opinions of the established editor

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had to tell you that if i never met you i dont think i would be a teacher your a great inspiration to me. My brother told me that your in for an operation i hope you get out okay Oh! and thanks Mr.West:)

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to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:uw-test1}} instead of {{uw-test1}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. Thank you. }#if:Abortion|, as you are doing in

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There was no kettling in relation to his death, so I removed that claim, but I have left the section so as to allow for a source to back up criticism of other police tactics. If there are any.

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Would you consider the scottish subject of modern studies to be equivalent to politics or media studies or general studies as England does not employ the qualification? What is it closer to?

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is ahead of it, slightly closer to the top, and England is some way behind in the 100s, and Scotland back to the 300s. Typically, the UK page gets about 20k visitors a day! Hope that helps.

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it as seen as new club and countion club i wont oppose change from company to club, and it looks like badsynergy might be agreing to comprise way forward to so we are movign forward finally

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Yes, and I was merely trying to say that all help is welcome but neither I nor anyone else has to agree or give permission for anyone to contribute - we all own the pages equally. Regards

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As i said i dnt have objection to your changes as they are only making it a bit more up to date , only suggesting talk so that it can been seen by a admin it is a cones-us to change it

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Seeing the Wales pages and the different topics like music releases etc persuaded me they are worth having, so long as they end up more detailed than the UK general pages. Thanks.♦

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Hi - I don't own these pages any more than anyone else so always happy to see others contributing. Once we get the articles started, the real work will be to add to them. Regards

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I am open to persuasion otherwise but you will need to have much more substantial evidence than a BBC report to back your claim. I am going to raise a question on this subject at

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running the club, not about how he is running the holding company. I feel pretty strongly such figures should be included in the article. Sparhelda 19:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Rangers F.C.". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation.

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googled "Rangers" or such like, the dispute (which to any extent that is newsworthy at all now, it will clearly not be when all mention of "new" naturally becomes outdated

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I note above that you've occasionally had your new articles deleted. That can be very frustrating especially if you're still working on them. I would suggest that you use

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undue weight and adding something not related to the section, it might be better suited to the rivaliry part, i think it is still on the rangers supporter article itself

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Thanks for the suggestion. Of course, if you have the time, that is something you may be able to do yourself - you probably know much more about it than me :) Regards

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it is pointed out that these countries are part of a larger sovereign country is perhaps not my first choice, but nevertheless, either way they should be included.

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See the links I provided above, which give a much more detailed explanation of any that I could, and if you still have queries I would suggest bringing them up at

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to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at

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Thanks for the reply, I must admit I hadn't thought of it like that. It's no big deal I guess, just wondered what your thoughts were. Keep up the good work!

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P.s. I wonder exactly why you have become such a diligent editor of many pages relating to Rangers F.C. all of a sudden? Another grinding an axe perchance?

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The "comment" I have put simply explains whether the suspected sockpuppets have been addmited or confirmed, as a quick summary of what has happend. Cheers.

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is inappropriate. Whether East Jerusalem is occupied or a part of Israel is hotly disputed. Please remove the "occupied" from that section. Thank you.--

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Neither "occupied" nor "annexed". "East Jerusalem" is just fine, as Israel's annexation and the world's non-recognition is generally understood.--

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Hi again. I would like to know if Fonez4mii is allowed to make a comment at the top of the page next to the suspected sockpuupet account. Thanks.

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navboxes. Because of 1883's relationship with DFC, it belongs on the DFC navbox, which means the DFC navbox belongs in the 1883 article. cheers,

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I completely fail to understand your having destroyed the previous article with this title. The main variety of turnpike roads in Britain were

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Please leave this with me! I think you may be right regarding the ip. I'm glad I asked now as I don't believe you're connected and I apologise.

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which is basically secterism. but if you do 3 reverts or put the same thing in within 24 hours it is edit warring you are best reporting it at

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evidence please do not edit the 'newco' page, which is specifically redirected from "Sevco" on the Rangers FC page, which documents a company.

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the oldco still acutalyl own a few assesst which the liqduaiytors will be selling, one assesst the administratior have to sell is the spl share

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The liqudater are there and starting teh job, but the full transfer ot the liqudater siwll takea good few weeks but not here no liqudated yet

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are not one. Leave it to the experts to do the job. You keep deleting information for the sake of it. Please note Knowledge is Encyclopedia.

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to make standardized citations? Compare citations 13 & 14 in the Teacher article to the rest and I think you'll see what I mean. Cheers! —

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do you fancy rewording the question on teh request for comment so there more neutral and can get a consensus from something more clearer?--

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that it is only the health system in England. Feel free to rename the article "Healthcare in England" if you want to be more specific.

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What's worrying is that some of these ips have been in conversation with you in some talk pages, in one case the ip suggesting we move

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FYI, in my response to MastCell's Arbitration Request you are quoted. I hope you will agree that I did not quote you out of context.

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The problem with your edit to BoT is that, for whatever reason (and I assume it is a good reason), the article for Charles I is called

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are saying that they will not accept a consensus made on another page, so I would like to inform you that there is now a similar vote

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and associated articles are in danger of becoming disruptive. Far too much nit-picking over minor points - why not make more use of

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Please fix up your writeup then. I apologise for mangling it. I like what you've added as the header but just keep the list is all.

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feel could be improved, please do so. I'm sure it needs more work before taking the next step. Anyway, many thanks for your time.

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because they dnt wan tthe backlash so by not sying for sure what they think and refering to both there covering there own arses--

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I would hope you also acknowledge the need to reach consensus and in this regard would welcome your thoughts on the matter.

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my dillema here. I won't be offended if this has been going on, but now's the time for this to be brought out in the open.

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devolution may be accelerating the creation of differences, but the systems were never one system. Hope this is helpful.

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Fishiehelper, I understand your reasoning and agree the long term stability of the Rangers FC article is important.

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Hi, just to let you know, the Oxford dictionary reference provides the first record of Aberdeen as being called

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was clear cut and i could back one side or the other but i cant back either side becaus eboth sides are correct

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Richard Stephen Charnock. Local Etymology: A Derivative Dictionary of Geographical Names. Houlston and Wright.

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Yes, it would be nice to find words that said the invaders claimed it was pre-emptive, but it really wasn't.

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I'm sorry about that I didnt realise I thought it was county forces it was trying to get across, but thanks.

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Hello Fishiehelper. I see you found a UN source for Scotland and N.Ireland being countries. I also noticed

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Seems someone agreed with you and reverted my revert! As you say, not too big a deal, so I'll leave as is.

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For contributing so much to all United Kingdom related articles! People like you help keep things going.

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True, but I'm pointing out the risk of 3RR to both of you here, whatever the argument is actually about.

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You can also keep your snidey little remarks to yourself in future and away from my talk page. Regards

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I am assuming you are refering to the rangers page, the 1RR rule only applies to anything related to

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state's founding, it would not even list the Acts of Union 1707 because that was the founding of the

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the rule. If you go to government web sites there you will not find it referred to as NHS. See also

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clear of the article from now on as it appears sources don't really count for much there. Regards.

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source. Although its not from a UN website it must have be taken from one of their sites. Cheers.

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would be helpful for you in the future if you are going to edit Knowledge in the future. Cheers!

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yet but if you have any comments I would prefer you wrote them down on the comment page first.

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Hello Fishiehelper2. Thank you, for not 'roughing' me up on the 'map' & consistancy issues.

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forward, i realyl dnt want to do it but i think those editors will never let us move forward--

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Status Quo have been reinserted into the text. You were quite right, they do belong there. :)

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Please take your argument over this to the talk page rather than arguing via edit summaries.

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Why is the first ever Labour government not important enough to be included in this section?

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history-december-14-1896-the-opening-of-the-glasgow-subway/ On this day in Glasgow's history

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Hey, Fishiehelper2, I just wanted to apologize to you for rollbacking your edit to the DRN

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I've also removed the special permissions you have because of the long-standing socking.--

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Hello there! I found out, just now, that the UK is the 2nd most linked article on WP. See

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Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you.

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Of course, claiming they have no assets nor any players is entirely erroneous. Please.

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thanks for the reply. How about a compromise and we copy-paste and merge the protests in

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I see you have changed my text concerning Rangers having to play in the third division.

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say,they might not also being neutral either but they are within the rule sof wikipedia

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The resolution said Quebecois (i.e Quebecers), not Quebec itself. If ya only knew, the

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removed 'preemptively' - it was not as though Iraq were preparing to launch an attack!

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Hello there, Thought I'd let you know that Fonez4mii has been accused of sockpupperty

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As you recently edited this talk page, I thought you might like to share your views.

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