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approving a plan of six private companies to finance a feasability study. By the way, you omitted to add to the article that in 2006 Kazakhstan was mentioning 2015 - while in 1999 deliveries were promised for 2002! Contrary to what the the article seems to suggest tacitly ("during the OSCE meetings"), I believe that there was no OSCE involvement there. Reference 5 is really about the OSCE and the conflicts and human rights situation in the
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too much overlap with the "Nuclear technology in {country}"? The "Nuclear energy in {country}" category only contains one article with a rare exception too. I really don't see how we could have a good distintion between nuclear technology and nuclear energy since 90% of country specific articles could go in either... I just don't know what to do with them. -
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source's information. There may also be a language issue, as the editor is a native French speaker. The reason I'm back is I've reached my 3rr limit with him/her on peak oil, and I would like an authoritative 3rd party to help us out. I do expect you though to enjoy the rest of your Sunday before you come by.
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Hi Beagel I've just been looking at the USGS's home page for shale oil and how much info there is. I was thinking we could really turn the wikipedia article into a great but possibly too long of a page with all the resources available. I was wondering if you had any sort of strategy in mind for it as
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all that is probably in the noise. I will take your suggestion and incorporate this information in the article. I will concentrate on making the energy densities of the different economies in the world visible. Once I have done that, will you support a renewed attempt to make it a featured article???
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The following sentence about coal, "would make it a popular candidate to meet the energy demand of the global community", is unfinished. Not only will I be adding global warming but also other pollution concerns. With a second reference. Just thought I would let you know. When the original sentence
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Hi Beagel. The energy portal was upgraded to 'featured portal' today, and I wanted to thank you for your help in getting it there - news items, comments and keeping me on my toes. It really has been appreciated. Of course the work continues and I hope that you will be able to continue to contribute
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Beagel, I have incorporated my ideas into the article. I am still looking for more sources on Haig, but I have deleted the POV flag. Since I also looked at the language (cannot promise that could not be improved), the other thing would mainly be about adjusting the structure to the new situation.
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or even for FA? Is there something which could be done before nomination? Probably also some copyedit is needed. I appreciate if you could assist with advice or could help to improve this article. Thank you in advance. PS: I proposed some more articles for the Energy Portal.
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article. I appreciate the invitation to join the energy portal. Over the last year I have made many edits and created lots of articles, this is however definitely the article that I spend most energy :) on. Like you, I think this issue is important.
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