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Crimthann was poisoned by his sister Mongfind in order for her son(s) to win the throne. She died from the act, having taken a sip to lull any suspicions her brother had. While on his travels throughout the kingdom of Munster, the poison took effect, and there he died. A cairn was hastily made
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The cairn is in one of three possible locations: the first being in
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367:. Possibly this is a mistake, or an attempt by the Eóganachta literati, well known for their political fables, to more closely associate the brother and sister with the new Munster dynasty. Mongfind is simply called the daughter of Dáire (Cerbba?), not of Fidach, in the
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British archaeologists and linguists have attempted to identify it with a number of sites in Cornwall and in
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Thomond,
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