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Religion, then Hinduism is surely comprised of many distinct āReligionsā; but all of the Hindu āReligionsā form a coherent whole. What is the correct term for an organized mass of Religions? If Christianity is a Religion, then Hinduism is a āSuper Religionā. The term āconglomerationā suggests something arbitrary or forced. Since Shaivism and Vaishnavism both accept the same Brahman as their One God (albeit under different names), and share the same Vedas as their primary scripture, it seems foolish to insist that Shaivism and Vaishnavism are separate Religions in the common understanding of the word. Indeed, it is dangerously divisive to promote such a marked distinction of what are only traditional sections or āSectsā of just one diverse but fully unified āReligionā. Why should Hinduism NOT be regarded as a single Religion? And remember that Shaivism actually transcends the distinction of Hindu Dharma and Mahayana Bauddha Dharma.
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I think Ive found an answer to my question - posting here if anyone else found this statement of the article as inprecise as I did: " Tibetans accept
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there are only two thangkas of Shiva, from Nepal, categorised as Hindu-deity, in a sea of tantric deities. Most buddhist tantrism has little to do with hindu tantra, and quite a longer history... Youre right, hes mentioned in buddhist cosmology. Im just suprised that there is any custom of deva
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