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551:"Despite its significant advantages the new gantry signage has caused confusion because the downward arrows over the left traffic lanes seem to indicate to drivers that they should pull out into the right lane if they wish to continue on the motorway or dual carriageway, breaking the keep left rule. In July 2007, some of the gantry signage on the M50 between Junctions 13-17 was replaced with signage in the "old" style, based on UK gantry signs. This is likely to mean that the new style signage will be replaced in other cases where it used also." 201: 183: 211: 157: 67: 675: 91: 472: 81: 53: 22: 335:
This includes the so called UK (and NZ) 'Open Road Sign' - contracted by GB as meaning "END OF ALL LOCAL PROHIBITIONS IMPOSED ON MOVING VEHICLES", hardly "open road limit". The convention allows very similar designs, such as with or without a border or rim, and allows for a series of parted diagonal
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If it does however, and accepts the meaning, it CAN choose to impose, as part of "License Conditions" a speed limit maximum for certain categories of drivers, applicable when they in turn pass the sign, such as for an L-plater (Learner driver) or P-Plater (Provisional/s), or for HEAVY vehicles and
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This, while true officially and generally observed, is ignored in some Border areas (along with paying road tax and registering your vehicle in this State). Hence, the original signs (on the Irish side of the Border)can be seen just before you cross the Border, in some cases immediately after new
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The world *must* have uniformity of design and meaning with its primary road signage. Safety is not improved in international traffic when individual countries, their respective road authorities, act to give 'different meaning' to an international road traffic sign to their residents, to that
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In addition links to Commons' categories (here right) of regular 'Road signs in Ireland' as well as to images illustrating the dangerous and confusing problem of conflicting signages were also removed as 'Rem pov', despite really existing! Why conseal them?
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If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on
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section 6.13. I believe that the statement in the artice that "height restriction signs are the only ones still to use imperial measurements as of 2011" needs updating, but better that it be done by someone who actually lives in the country, not me!
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IF States Parties, or their jurisdictions, cannot come to terms with having a length of road without an absolute speed limit, for whatever reason or reasons, then it must NOT use the particular sign, nor it's sister sign, the C,17b I might
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The answer is for GB and The Republic of Ireland to initiate REMOVAL of the subject sign from their road network, and legislation, UNLESS it accepts the UN Convention meaning as contracted, for the length of road to which it is fixed.
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The sign in question is in fact an international road traffic sign, its ultimate legal meaning and interpretation is with the various UN Conventions on Road Traffic, Road Signs and Signals. It is catalogued as "C,17a".
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Not sure why one should get so worked up about it...but anyway, the National Speed Limit sign is gone (along with the National Speed Limit!) since metrification of speed limits. Every road now has a signposted limit.
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I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of road-signs use the dotless i. I can't recall seeing any that use dots, although perhaps I haven't been paying enough attention. However, lately I
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Chainage markers I believe - they allow the NRA to identify a specific section of road for upgrading / traffic monitoring purposes. They are not intended for use by the public however.
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Transport Heavy is the name of the font used on most Irish road signs, motorway road numbers use another font called Motorway Permanent. See www.cbrd.co.uk for more info. --
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My preference is for the latter solution, given that the principles employed in NI road signage are essentially identical to those obtaining in the rest of the UK. --
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Obviously the top part refers to the route number (In this example N5) but what does the lower number refer to ? Ive heard different theories but nothing verifiabe
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Is there a specific name of the typeface used for the Irish? I know it is just oblique Transport Heavy with a few letters changed but is it an actual font?
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noticed pictures on Commons of "dotted" signs. Some are new but others are older. Are these just mistakes or has there been some "change of policy"?
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A discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. If you feel the deletion can be contested then please do so (
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The following observation I made on the article page was deleted on grounds of "Rem pov" ?? (unable to trace what that means) by Sarah777:
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The new Gantry style does not follow the UK style, If you want to place it, then it is a hybrid of German, French style with UK fonts
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Not true. They are found in other parts of the world, too, but belong to a different convention from that used elsewhere in Europe.
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What is the purpose of those small yellow signs one periodically encounters along National primary routes which say something like:
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Older road signs (perhaps prior to 2009/2010) used the dotless i. Signage produced since then do use the normal i. ~~
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It would appear that as of 2010, the height restriction sign is metric-only along with every other sign - see
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is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under
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has further information). Otherwise consider finding a replacement image before deletion occurs.
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Unfortunately there does not seem to be a publicly available version of the oblique typeface.
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coaches by way of 'speed limiters', since these are vehicle construction regulatory issues.
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signs which are effectively only applied to a few metres of road this side of the Border.
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I have now made the changes. Again, I am open to any opinions/criticisms you may have.
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Some mandatory signs (one way, left turn only, right turn only) are unique to Ireland.
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Is there a standard font for Irish roadsigns and if so what is it called ?
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This is what I've discussed elsewhere in relation to it, (see link below).
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I think it would greatly facilitate clarity if this article were either
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Please let me know if you find this to be an improvement or otherwise.
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Knowledge article constitutes fair use. In addition to the
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In relation to the reference 'end of speed limit' sign.
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Fair use rationale for Image:1926 Irish road signs.png
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Prohibitory_traffic_sign
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