Talk:Italy/Archive 8

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change "Italy shares its borders with France, Switzerland, Austria, Slovenia and two enclaves: Vatican City and San Marino." to "Italy shares its borders with France, Switzerland, Austria, Slovenia, Vatican City and San Marino." or "Italy shares its borders with France, Switzerland, Austria, Slovenia

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Yes, and they then explain: "è la prima volta che avviene questo cambiamento che appare soltanto sui passaporti di servizio, mentre nei passaporti ordinari e diplomatici anche la traduzione in lingua inglese è rimasta la consueta e corretta traduzione letterale, cioè “Italian Republic”, così come per

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The Pelagie islands are listed as exclaves of Italy, but that is not correct according to the definition. Islands whether belonging to another continent or not are not exclaves. But even if we really went by that definition, not all Pelagie islands don't belong to Italy geographically/orographically

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I don't know if in the case of Turkey the alternative Turkish republic vs Republic of Türkiye has any political or cultural significance. In the case of Italy, the alternative Italian Republc vs Republic of Italy has none: it is not a relevant issue in either political or scholarly debates. However,

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You are right on all counts, and perhaps that is a good reason for leaving things unchanged. The Marina Militare version (2) doesn't have the lyrics in the subtitles, so if the standard generally followed on other pages is to have a short purely instrumental version, then it's better to keep the US

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be translated into English?". Apparently in 2003 the Italian Goverment decided that the official translation at UN level should be "Republic of Italy". However, in the context of EU treaties, other international treaties, official translations of the Italian constitution, official documents such as

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Even that translation of the constitution has "Every citizen shall be free to leave and enter the territory of the Republic of Italy, save for obligations set forth by law", and the version I linked above has it a few more times where "Italian Republic" is used in this one. There may be a lean, but

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You pick on one mention in the translation of the constitution published by the Constitutional Court of the Italian Republic, but remain silent on the Consolidated Texts of the EU Treaties as amended by the Treaty of Lisbon (2008), the Permanent Committee on Geographical Names for British official

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An official sanction of the proposed name is non-existent. The exact same documents presented bring to the conclusion about their scope: namely, the adoption of the name as a reference to the country at the UN. This means in no way an official position for the name, exactly like "China" is not the

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actually the question is, who cares? The 2003 Italian government does not dictate how Knowledge should call the country. If by "official (name)" you mean "used by public offices", then "Italian Republic" is very much official (it is found on the national passport, international treaties, official

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in Turkish, one of its official languages). Compare Italian Republic and Republic of Cyprus in the Consolidated Texts of the EU Treaties as amended by the Treaty of Lisbon. However, this article is about Italy and nothing agreed elsewhere applies here. You need a consensus.

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are sufficient evidence to prove the point. Also on my Italian passport I read "Italian Republic". I have no idea why at UN level Republic of Italy is more common, but I guess it reflects some linguistic practice of Italian diplomacy rather than wider usage.

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Every country has an official name in English. I remember an user argued the same thing in Turkey discussions. Otherwise Turkey and Ivory Coast shouldn't have official names in foreign letters just because its governments enforced them. Another example is

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Italy is a regional state not an unitary state. The regions have political power of making laws concerning the subjects defined by the constitution. Art 117 Italian constitution. So the the government form Must change to regional parlamantelary Republic.

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no, but wikilinks should be removed judiciously, reasoning very well about which ones to keep and which ones not, and not removing them at random just to comply with the MOS. Maybe these two users have reasoned very well, but I'm not at all sure.

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example is another good one. "Lebanese Republic" is not in use anymore. However I don't deny "Italian Republic" is still used in official capacity. My argument is "Republic of Italy" is the sole registered name in the UN, thus that shall be used.

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The instrument of action is the definition itself of the nature of the text: a message destined to the UN, as a document for the UN. There is no law establishing that wrong name: such diplomatic correspondence has no legal enforcement, and is

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Looking at the source, there is an editor comment at the Administrative Divisions section that says not to change the anchor tag. As it stands, however, the section header is "={{Anchor". Shouldn't this be fixed? Why shouldn't it be changed?

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tutte le altre lingue che sono dall'interrogante conosciute" (deepl trans. this is the first time that this change has occurred, which appears only in service passports, whereas in ordinary and diplomatic passports, the English translation

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Navy version after all. It's a pity though, because I find the Del Monaco version (1) much less martial/militaristic and more melodic and interesting from a historical point of view (opera in Italy was a driver of national unification).

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I think Moxy makes a good point, we already have a section in the body where some info on the topic would fit. While we haven't found any secondary sources, something minimal and banal could be put together from select primary sources.

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You are engaged in an edit war. You don't have a consensus for the edit your are trying to force on this article. You have been reverted and yet you keep on restoring your preferred text. I strongly suggest you self-revert and start an

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translations of the constitution, etc.). If by "official (name)" you mean "established by the law/the constitution", then Italy has no official name in English. We should rather look at the linguistic practices of English speakers.

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mine were not randomly. Most of my removals were multiple of the same link. Milan, Rome, Italian diaspora, Catholic Church, and Venice (to name just a few) we're all linked multiple times, sometimes within the same paragraph.

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There is no consensus for change. 93.45.229.98, Foghe, Gitz and myself (four editors) have all made compelling cases against. Even you have conceded there is "a lean" (five?). Only Beshogur and Moxy (two) have expressed firm

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That would be a compromise (and the situation that existed before Beshogur started edit warring), but my preference would be for just the Italian Republic as was the case until last year. I think I have made the case why.

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I would like to warn you (you in the plural) that if you see me inactive from now on, it is because until an agreement is reached on this problem, I will no longer contribute to "en.wiki", except for a few edits per week.

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https://www.governo.it/it/costituzione-italiana/parte-seconda-ordinamento-della-repubblica/titolo-v-le-regionile-province-e-i#:~:text=la%20Regione%20interessata.-,Art.,comunitario%20e%20dagli%20obblighi%20internazionali

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By instruction of the Italian Government, the English name of the "Italian Republic" should be changed to "Republic of Italy". The French and Spanish version used at the United Nations remain unchanged.

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Saying I "remain silent" is a strange assertion, everyone in the discussion has seen all the sources. So far we do not have a secondary one, and no source has said any one particular style is in error.

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See UN and ISO standards. It uses "Republic of Italy", not "Italian Republic", however I agree that the latter is also used, like "Azerbaijan Republic" sometimes instead of "Republic of Azerbaijan".

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use (updated 26 October 2023) and the Italian passport (updated 27 September 2023). This is an error that does not appear in the translation published by the Senate of the Republic, which states:

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Knowledge:Naming conventions (countries) referred to short form names so it is not relevant here. You need a consensus or to point to where it says that the UN is the only acceptable source.

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It appears to me, that the proposed denomination stems from a good faith misunderstanding of the Italian legal system, probably caused by unfamiliarity with it by foreign editors. Greetings.

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Every country has an official name in English. At least look at Cyprus example (differs from it's Greek name), Ivory Coast (uses non English letters), Eswatini (changed its name completely.

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Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Italian Republic concerning the Protection of Classified Information

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We now seem to have — correct me if I am wrong — four editors for Italian Republic, two for both (one leaning towards Italian Republic) and one unequivocally for Republic of Italy.

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We have reliable primary sources on both sides of the argument, although I'd say that they are, if not overwhelmingly, at least largely in favour of "Italian Republic". Note that

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MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC AND THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH OF THE REPUBLIC OF ARMENIA ON COOPERATION IN THE FIELD OF HEALTHCARE

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sorry but these are randomly picked sources. Just because "Italian Republic" appears in the sentences, etc. doesn't make them sources. I don't get how Europol is a source here.

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The etymology of a country's name, if worth noting, may be dealt with in the Etymology or History section. Naming disputes may also belong in the Etymology or History section.

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That sounds like a good choice for you. Inconsistency of italics appears to be causing you significant distress. Thank you for the ping, and for the above message. Grazie. –

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Agreement between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Italian Republic on Mutual Recognition of Driving Licences for the Purposes of Exchange

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I have given other examples, especially "Republic of Italy" is an ISO standard. And you're still repeating the same things. This is getting disruptive on the talk page.

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ECJ – Customs – C-63/19 – European Commission against Italian republic – EC does not demonstrate that Italy is lowering excise rates by means of a compensation scheme

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Turkey changed its name at the UN to Türkiye. The question this raises is why the Italian government has told the UN that its official name is Republic of Italy.

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Oh that's your answer for all those evidence? I gave here dozens of examples of UN registered names being used here as official names, and yet you ignore this.

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The ISO standards set by the International Organization for Standardization are widely accepted around the world. This standard is used by the United Nations.

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AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PRINCIPALITY OF LIECHTENSTEIN ON THE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION ON TAX MATTERS

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passports, etc., "Italian Republic" is widespread and actually is more common. Besides, there are a few secondary sources such as the Library of congress

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you intend to force the official UN name on every single country on that list, e.g. "Republic of France" instead of "French Republic", than you are being

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The UN is not the ultimate source here, outside of rare instances the names are from national governments which are conveyed to the UN. For example, on

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We can only speculate on that. However, more recent examples above clearly demonstrate continued use of Italian Republic. It is also reproduced in the

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The situation is not comparable to Spain's one that has Canary Islands thousands of kilometres ways. Or the ones in front of Northern Moroccan coast

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Please be advised that Italy's official name is: Republic of Italy. --President of the Council of Ministers of the Republic of Italy Gabriella Biondi

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Council Decision (EU) 2023/1204 of 20 June 2023 appointing a member, proposed by the Italian Republic, of the European Economic and Social Committee

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This page is really very well done and complete (perhaps some small details are missing). I propose the addition of the "Good article" template.

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per i parlamentari italiani non esiste più, nella lingua inglese, la Repubblica italiana, sorprendentemente trasformata in “Repubblica d’Italia”;

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I am not clear what you mean by: "So far we do not have a secondary one". There are a number of secondary sources above. Can you please clarify.

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AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC CONCERNING THE TRANSFER OF DEFENCE EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY

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That's what I mean. It's rather a noun. We should take what is admitted to the UN (that's the reason why I'm citing Turkey/Türkiye discussion.

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I think we should start by having both, given that borh are used in official contexts. Then we can debate if one of the two has to go and why.

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Isn't it a bit peculiar that we have a (purely instrumental, no words) version played by the U.S. Navy Band? I know it's only an essay, but

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I should have said established, not agreed. You were unable to point to a policy and CMD stated: "The UN is not the ultimate source here".

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Again, you pick on one small point, but ignore the thrust of my argument: There is no consensus and your example is a translation error.

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What kind of example is this? No one denis it's "Italian Republic" in Italian. "Republic of Cyprus" is also "Cypriot Republic" in Greek.

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Treaty of Friendship, Partnership, and Cooperation between the Italian Republic and the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya

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The edits sufficiently may not significantly improve, but the minor grammatical errors have been edited with best of the knowledge.

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The equivalent of what we already have (purely instrumental), of comparable, perhaps better quality, but played by the Italian Navy.

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Also if there is a diplomatic relation between two countries, there is definitely an official name in that country's language. Eg.

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FILM CO-PRODUCTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF BRAZIL

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JOINT DECLARATION ON ESTABLISHING STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC AND THE REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN

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I personally mostly removed links to very common words (eg "Europe"), since I figured people wouldn't really need them anyways.

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then. It's about the official name, Ivory Coast, Turkey, Eswatini, etc. We discussed this common name issue hundreds of time in

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These are that came into my mind right now. And all of these, except of Italy is now considered official name in wikipedia.

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Moxy's proposal to include both Italian Republic and Republic of Italy in the opening sentence seems fair and simple to me.

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Reservations and Declarations for Treaty No.030 - European Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (ETS No. 030)

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French Republic is the official name of France. That's not what I'm disputing. Regarding the consitution, you can also find

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officially the Republic of Cyprus (Greek: Κυπριακή Δημοκρατία, romanized: Kypriakí Dimokratía, , lit: Cypriot Republic)

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Knowledge isn't always correct information. Just because it's on wikipedia for a long term doesn't mean it's correct.

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Implementing decision 2018/593 - Authorisation of Italy to derogate from Articles 218 and 232 of the VAT Directive

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No I disagree. UN says "Republic of Italy". It should be about whether Italian Republic should be added as well.

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The Permanent Representation of the Italian Republic to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons

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So we should listen an IP with less than 10 edits. There is a consensus on official names regarding countries.

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Ogni cittadino è libero di uscire dal territorio della Repubblica e di rientrarvi, salvo gli obblighi di legge

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I personally think the Banda Musicale della Marina Militare version (2), which is the one in the infobox of

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PARTNERSHIP AND CO-OPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES AND THEIR MEMBER STATES, AND UKRAINE

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No, it is other stuff and it does not apply here. You need to build a consensus, which you do not have.

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it says "Roman Empire" under formation... then it should definitely be in Italy. Or what do you think?

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name is "the Italian Republic", so it's hard to know how much weight we should give to the UN sources

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ECJ 26 March 2019, case C-621/16 P (Commission / Italy), discrimination, other forms of discrimination

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And there is a consensus on official names as I mentioned, Turkey/Türkiye discussion is a precedent.

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Why should we? Because you say so? This is meant to be a discussion and you do not have a consensus.

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Disagree, per Foghe and 93.45.229.98. The Italian Republic is correct and should be restored for the

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I wouldn't agree. The amount of subheadings and their titles aren't unusual for a country article.

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seems relevant to me. Besides, we have better quality versions of the anthem available on Commons:

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Lets move this debate out of the lead and stick it in "Name" section....copy our FA article like

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I think that pending discussion we should go back to the status quo ante so I reverted your edit

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Long version (6 min) with words by Accademia Filarmonica Romana e Cappella Giulia di San Pietro.

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Let me be more clear. Regarding "official names in English", there are several types of these:

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hello The Roman Empire should still be under formation. In the Knowledge page from Algeria

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a

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I will remember that. I will change text into British English wherever I see, thankyou.

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Commission of the European Communities v Italian Republic Case C- 217/ 06 4 October 2007

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Hi, I'm here to indicate a misiniformation in the first note of the infobox, saying: "

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I've now added English subtitles to the Italian, so there's no reason not to go ahead.

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You are just repeating the same arguments over and over again. As advised above and at

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several times regarding official names of the countries. There is another example like

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Nope, that is not acceptable. The weight of evidence is in favour of Italian Republic.

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formally the Kingdom of Eswatini and also known by its former official name Swaziland

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THank you for the link. But the official name of the Italian Republic is in Italian:

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The sources provided by IP 109 are overwhelming and confirm what I already believed:

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Population change at the end of February 2024 (1 March 2024): 58.971.638; source:

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Also consider the length (definitely excessive, given the subject matter) of the

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suggests that this is generally not appropriate, save for a (very) few instances.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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has remained the usual and correct literal translation, i.e. 'Italian Republic'

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The genesis of cleaning up the overlooking, for me at least, was a request in

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The Permanent Delegation of the Italian Republic to the North Atlantic Council

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Yes, that's how Knowledge works (and I've been around a lot longer than you).

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translation of the official name of the country, despite being used at the UN.

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I’ll ask again, where does it say that the UN is the only acceptable source?

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STATUS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION WITH REGARD TO INTERNATIONAL AIR LAW INSTRUMENTS

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It's not about most common name. There wouldn't be "Republic of Türkiye" in

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Change of Her Majesty’s Ambassador to the Italian Republic: Edward Llewellyn

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Please read my comments about Ivory Coast and Turkey. You will understand.

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At 140kB, the entire page is grossly overlength. Splits need considering.

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It has already been agreed that the UN is not the only acceptable source.

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Italian Republic shouldn't be on the lead, since there is another example

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speaking. Linosa does belong. Only Lampedusa and Lampione are doubtful.

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waiting for the other user's response, thank you for your contribution.

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CONSOLIDATED TEXTS OF THE EU TREATIES AS AMENDED BY THE TREATY OF LISBON

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That other stuff exists is not an argument. I am talking about policy.

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That's an interesting find, I wonder what the story is there. The most

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The Permanent Committee on Geographical Names for British official use

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And the fact is CMD is supporting my argument here (Turkey example).

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No it is same exact discussion regarding official names and the UN.

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Stop spamming on the talk page. You're more harming, than helping.

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or like FA article Japan (were its covred all in a note and body).

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I see tag removed again. We will be by this page in a few weeks.

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after you were reverted you should have taken it to the talk page

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Fine, but in the meantime we can change it back to what it was.

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The Constitution of the Republic of Italy in the following text

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You're repeating same arguments over and over. We discussed on

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No, that is exactly how it works. You do not have a consensus.

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Maybe we can open a rfc for this. See what other users think.

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That's not how it works. UN refers to as "Republic of Italy".

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Many wikilinks were removed without motivating the changes:

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The official English translation of the Italian constitution

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In English, the official name of Italy is Republic of Italy.

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Czechia (Czech Republic; still Czech Republic as long name)

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is simply not convincing, and it's just your point of view.

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 April 2024

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have been unsuccessful) and Swaziland is mentioned in the

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Hi, there is a very interesting discussion regarding the "

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Greetings, everyone. The article says that Italy has the

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Countries that changed their short nameby requesting UN:

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Judgment of the Court (Third Chamber) of 17 November 2011

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Insane amount of text please remove and add subheadings.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1195243587

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1195160919

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Countries that have slightly different name in English:

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The Quirinal Treaty enters into force (1 February 2023)

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https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/italy/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1195144873

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This isn't a polling. Please do not divert the topic.

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is preferable and more common than Republic of Italy.

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When you want to guide people to a discussion, please

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is the text of Italian constitution from the senate.

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Ivory Coast, officially the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire

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Another prominent example is Lebanese Republic -: -->

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and two micronations: Vatican City and San Marino."

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https://demo.istat.it/app/?i=D7B&a=2024&l=en

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also shows that "Italian Republic" is more common.

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Church of England signs Treaty with Italian Republic

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NATO Secretary General to visit the Italian Republic

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