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Ford Granada 2.3 GL, Opel Rekord 2.0S, Renault 20TX, Rover 2300 and Volvo 244 GL. Of these cars, the Tagora was the second most expensive but did not have a superiority among the significant attributes of speed, acceleration, interior room or chassis design. Out of the comparison group the Tagora had the second highest top speed, was the third fastest to 60 mph though it had the best overall mpg (by 0.7 mpg). In terms of interior room, it had the fourth best legroom (front/rear).
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also noted the car's modest competence in comparison with the Rover 2300 (launched 1976), saying that the Tagora had more leisurely acceleration. LJK Setright noted the cars's overall "adequacy" going on to say that if fitted with the correct type of tyre he would still opt for a Peugeot 604 instead.
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bracket in Germany. During the first fifteen months of the car's existence, in 1980/81, a mere 16,169 Tagoras were produced which was only one quarter of Chrysler's initial projections. Sales proved insufficient even for this production level, and volumes plummeted by more than 80 percent in 1982. In
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In summary, the main competencies of the Tagora were its spacious cabin (though it was not class-leading), its comfortable seating, its fuel economy (in 2.2 GLS form) and the size of its luggage compartment (572 litres). But the fact that a car launched in 1974, the Volvo 244 GLE, could offer better
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provided a counterpoint to the effect that the Volvo was as roomy, despite its shorter wheelbase. The steering wheel was criticized in the same review for being too close to the driver's legs. The ventilation temperature control was "not satisfactory" due to an unprogressive response at the cool end
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magazine judged the car (2.2 GLS model) to be prone to "untidy" handling, tending to under-steer first followed by excessive over-steer. The magazine made a particular note of the advantage in handling and grip enjoyed by the older live-axled Volvo 244, underlining the point about the Tagora's lack
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Nearly a decade after the Tagora had ceased production, the view of the car in the automotive press was that it was merely average though there was little actively wrong with the car. The view was that the Tagora had the advantage of refinement, good manners and, in V6 form, good performance. Rust
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s verdict was that "the new Talbot is highly comparable with the others, and deserves to sell as any of them, although it does not come out with any startling advantages which you might expect of the latest appearance on the scene". Those cars against which the Tagora 2.2 GLS was compared were the
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opined, the Tagora "has such a complete blandness of style as to disqualify it instantly in a market where character and status count for so much." The design of the Tagora was focused on practicality, providing exceptional cabin space at the expense of style. The steep windscreen formed a quite
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Chrysler Corporation approved the development of the model on the assumption that Chrysler Europe would sell 60,000 C9 models per year, which translated into a projected 5 percent share of the executive car market. This estimate seemed achievable because Chrysler had a 7 percent market
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in Paris. Following a hands-on demonstration of the model to the press in Morocco in March 1981, the car went on sale in France in April and in the United Kingdom in May. The British billboard advertising campaign boasted "The new Talbot Tagora. Luxury and performance redefined."
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was replaced with that of the 505, much narrower than the one originally planned, as it was designed with respect to the 505 body width. The C9 front end was extended to accommodate the optional PRV engine: now that the model belonged to PSA, using the PRV presented no problems.
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reported that 99.09 percent of all UK-registered Tagoras were no longer on the roads. The last UK-registered Tagora on the road, has been declared on a SORN (statutory off-road notice) since 2016. The last UK-registered Tagora has been put back on the road as of September 2022
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the ventilation "fell down badly" on account of its awkward controls. Oddment accommodation was "disappointment". Lacking a self-setting stay, opening the bonnet was "heavy work" and the boot, while large, had the demerit of an "unusual" locking method: " is locked
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seats, disc brakes all round, better headlights, better ventilation and better handling for only slightly more than Talbot was charging for their car indicated that the Tagora had come to market with a vehicle that was uncompetitive in too many major respects.
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became more conventional: front and rear wheelarches were squared off and the spats lost, and the license plate was placed on the front bumper as on most cars. To better balance the tall silhouette, the beltline was raised. Over the course of development, the
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1983 the sales figures prompted PSA to cancel the model altogether. By the time the Tagora was discontinued, only about 20,000 had been built; by comparison, over 116,000 Peugeot 505s and 74,000 Citroën CXs were made in 1981 alone.
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models, the responsibility for the Tagora's technical development remained in France, while the styling was devised at Chrysler's design centre in the United Kingdom. An early proposal for the name of the car was "Simca 2000".
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of the dial. There was no fan-blown cold air (cold air was by ram-effect) nor an option for cool air to be directed to the face at the same time as warmth being directed into the footwells. According to
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During the development of the C9, the management of the bankruptcy-threatened Chrysler Corporation decided to divest itself of its debt-ridden European operations. The buyer was the French
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was identified as the single biggest problem for the surviving cars, usually around the rear suspension mountings. Buckley suggested that the car might attain collectible status by 2003.
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share in Europe overall. The projected sales would have covered the car's tooling costs, with the development costs accounted for separately, as part of an independent annual budget.
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marque, the C9 was christened the Talbot Tagora, and the first batch of cars rolled out of the former Simca plant in Poissy in 1980. The same year, PSA presented the Tagora at the
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The Tagora was priced to overlap with high-end Peugeot 505 and low-end Citroën CX models, while slotting in beneath the Peugeot 604. Its pricing was also comparable to the
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The recurring theme of published tests was the Tagora's lack of clear advantages or of a competitive edge. In comparing the car to its likely competitors,
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2.2-litre engines. Available trim levels were designated GL and GLS. The GL was the only model to feature the four-speed manual transmission, and have
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This Peugeot-developed turbodiesel was primarily used in the Peugeot 505 and 604. The diesel-powered version of the Tagora was designated DT.
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While the C9 project was well advanced, PSA already had a crowded lineup in the large vehicle segment, including the renowned
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The V6 model, which was actually badged "2.6", came in the top SX trim level, loaded with extras, but was not available with
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engine was generally expected. Consequently, the company had to seek a new engine for the Tagora. One candidate was a
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vehicle, with a longitudinally mounted engine. There were three engine choices, mated to four- and five-speed
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reviewed the Tagora in its 2.2 litre GLS iteration, and summed it up as "excellent, if not a great advance".
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In terms of engineering, the Tagora had no major flaws (except perhaps for the poor cabin ventilation). The
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magazine asked who could want one given the crowded market into which it came. Concluding a group test in
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considered the Tagora a "usefully effortless, uncomplicated, simple-to-drive and very comfortable car".
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The main competitors in the executive vehicle market offered engines bigger than the biggest 2.0-litre
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judged the chassis design to be one area "where does not show the comparative youth of its design".
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Regarding the interior, the seats drew praise for their comfort and detail design. However, again,
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as an option as opposed to standard. It was first to be dropped, for the 1983 model year.
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by users such as business executives and government officials. The donor model for the
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carburettors, 166 metric horsepower (122 kW), 234 newton-metres (173 lbfâ‹…ft).
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also lost its vertical taillights in favour of more "fashionable" horizontal ones.
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The Tagora was not greeted with much acclaim by the British motoring press.
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with a low beltline and large interior dimensions made possible by the long-
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I4, 80 metric horsepower (59 kW), 188 newton-metres (139 lbfâ‹…ft).
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being shut by pushing in a red handle set in the inside of the lid".
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Chrysler Europe began development of the Tagora in 1976, under the
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2.0-litre with increased displacement, as also featured in the
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25,000, the Présidence now resides at a car museum in Poissy.
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highlights, plus a host of electronics including a telephone,
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stir enthusiasm among reviewers and prospective customers.
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The Tagora's handling was deemed "on the good side", wrote
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series. Following the same development pattern as with the
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Following the renaming of Chrysler Europe's models to the
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strange angle with the relatively short, wedge-shaped
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As with most large cars of its time, the Tagora was a
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was the 2.6 SX, which had an interior appointed with
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PSA
Poissy
Designer
Roy Axe
Class
Executive car
Body style
saloon
Layout
FR layout
Engine
Type 180
I4
PRV
V6
XD2S
turbodiesel
Transmission
manual
manual
automatic
Wheelbase
Kerb weight
Chrysler 180/2 litre
Dodge 3700
Peugeot 605
executive car
Chrysler Europe
Peugeot Société Anonyme

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