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Luftwaffe pilots who were "rabidly anti-Nazi". A Wehrmacht general was "praised for his humanitarianism", while a field marshal had a whole section dedicated to same. Collaborationist police units "clashed" with SS forces, who moreover only "tried" to execute concentration camp inmates. In the more extreme example, a
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Interesting piece - military history tends to be a bit of a closed garden, in which people are either interested, or not. But could not similar criticisms be made of most of our milhist coverage? Articles on say the
Napoleonic Wars, Hundred Years War etc rarely dwell much on the mass rapes, pillage
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Nowhere was the distorted picture more apparent than on
English Knowledge c. 2015, with the articles on "Stuka aces" and "Panzer aces"; thousands of recipients of the "coveted Knight’s Cross" awarded for "extreme battlefield bravery or successful military leadership"; and generals leading from "the
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Wick received orders in the late afternoon of 6 October to report to
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in the early 70s, I turned my German WWII research towards a deeper interest in German WWII 'historical fiction'. I thought I would do a translation for en.Wiki for another author for the Pabel pulp. As the German
Knowledge is not so concerned about references as we are, searching for sources I
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Yes, indeed. But it isn't easy. As K.e.coffman points out, you need to know more than just the history; you need an understanding of the historiography in order to avoid the pitfalls of various national myths and narratives. For anyone interested in this sort of thing, my recommendation is a book
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Knowledge can be a wonderful resource to educate the public about the important issues of history. What’s great about it is that it’s always evolving, with new knowledge added all the time. It’s in everybody’s interest that this knowledge is free of historical distortions. I’m looking a for wider
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Reaching out to historians was relatively straightforward: those in academia almost always have their emails published in their
University profiles. Military History Working Group publishes a member list, which includes contact information, specialisation, and interests. I received responses from
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Well, our articles on military history where they collide with social and political history ought to represent the other sub-disciplines as well. To assist this under "comprehensiveness" and "authoritative sourcing" type criteria I've started querying FA / MILHIST-A proposers regarding their
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goes into it a bit, but in the West this myth is common because a rearmed West
Germany was needed by the Western Allies during the Cold War, so they promoted the myth. The academic consensus is that it is indeed a myth, but popular histories are often either outdated or out of the mainstream
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Yes, this is one of those myths about Nazi
Germany at war that simply won't lie down and die, no matter how many stakes are driven through its heart. The nature of Knowledge is a large part of the problem, because "enthusiasts" are the ones who tend to spend the most time writing and
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which contains a reliably-sourced criticism of the publisher when it comes to WW2 biography. I'll repeat it here: "...Schiffer provides a platform for authors who present an uncritical and ahistorical portrayal of the German war effort during the
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I think we all have a lot to learn from that honest and forthright account of the difficulties of presenting a historical account of terrible times. (I have fixed and expanded the link because I think it is important.)
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World War II Myth-making and Knowledge: Knowledge's myth of the clean Wehrmacht and what you can do about it. Or, how not to be one of "the worst distributors of pro-Nazi perspectives and the Wehrmacht
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