Knowledge:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles/Evidence

1790:"Let me remind everyone that the "voluntary mentoring" I'm under (decided by the now discredited and abolished CSN procedure) come about without any serious discussion. One might even think the decision to have "mentorship" was proposed and accepted in a "throw-away" fashion purely in an effort to filter Jaakobou's constant direct harassment of me...Someone has to protest the mass, McCarthyite, harassment that is going on, against me and many others. The source of it (at least in my case, over several months now) can be laid at the door of just one person who has most likely never made a single good edit in the project, ever." - 12:08, 7 November 2007 - 392:) which are far less impressive. Indeed, his previous attempts contain no dirt whatsoever that I can tell. Why is it important that Jaakobou has had near-professional help? Because I requested "an advocate" at the beginning of this ArbCom and was told I didn't need one. While I've struggled on my own, Jaakobou has blustered and allowed the atmosphere to be poisoned by highly suspicious behavior, refusing to be drawn on whether he's a cheat or not. He can't blame others for what's happened, nor can he expect a polished (but largely empty) presentation to save him now. 4334:("list of mass murders" etc.), condescending non sequiturs, and misrepresentations of past decisions and present positions the collective point of which is to shove his middle finger incessantly in the eye of his interlocutors. If you are genuinely concerned with the "incivility hurled at anyone who dares disagree," take it up with Armon. We have been begging him to stop trolling to no avail; you might find you have greater influence with him. In the meantime there are decisions to be made about this page, and troll's veto has run its course. 3899:

formalize this mentorship. Basically I’ve just been a sounding board and done my best to steer him in the right direction regarding policies. Jaakobou tells me he’s never used any sockpuppets. The question only came to my attention a few days ago, and since it was directed at him rather than me I saw no need to do more than alert him to the query. I received no evidence from which to begin an investigation, and quite a few people dislike me doing that work anymore. So per

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parties who have been in conflict with PR. The current mentors volunteered and were casually accepted during an AN/I. From what I can tell, there are no guidelines to shape the choice of mentor or their role. For instance, AFAIK, mentors need not be uninvolved in editing the topic area and their enforcement responsibility (for PR) is unclear. (These facts concern the procedure; not intended as any criticism whatsoever of the mentors themselves.)

1299:"actual or potential war-crimes. Serving or ex-serving members of armed forces...the challenger is accused of libel and silenced...potential defendants in criminal trials... are given free reign in articles that describe the incidents in which they took part (or are suspected of having taken part). The encyclopedia should demand that such people prove they were somewhere else, not give them the benefit of the doubt." - 20:39, 29 December 2007 - 232:'s conduct in articles and TalkPages has long been a source of astonishment. The damage he has done to articles is incalculable - leading others to claim that he's never done any good, ever, to any article. Worse than that, Jaakobou has hounded good editors, in many/all cases causing them to leave the project in frustration. Jaakobou even encourages other editors to act disruptively (one example in my questions to him above, others available). 113: 35: 1785:"I do not insert falsehoods into articles or Talk (it's rare I even make a mistake, and when I do I apologise for it)...the allegation made against me is an attempt to cover-up an attempt to introduce a distortion into the article, carried out on behalf of someone who (at best) has not read the material refered to. Behavior like this reflects badly on those who do it and cannot possibly improve articles." - 18:18, 28 October 2007 - 66:; posting evidence longer than 1000 words will not help you make your point. Over-long evidence that is not exceptionally easy to understand (like tables) will be trimmed to size or, in extreme cases, simply removed by the Clerks without warning - this could result in your important points being lost, so don't let it happen. Stay focused on the issues raised in the initial statements and on diffs which illustrate relevant behavior. 4040:

decided to include my experience with a topic only marginally related to Israel/Palestine. I can only imagine how bad it must be for more controversial topics. Attacks like this against a reasonably NPOV (my OR) editor with no history of edits to controversial Israel/Palestine pages for an edit not even controversial I feel will drive editors away and leave these POV? editors to edit unhindered which is not in WP’s best interests.

4572:). When the same disputes continued, I reacted poorly and (as I said) lost my temper, for which I apologize. Second, there was a widespread view that Jaakobou was not responsive to concerns raised by other editors. Third, other editors also gave reasons for opposing Jaakobou's edits. I was largely in agreement, but didn't want to intervene on talk simply to repeat points I had made earlier. 341:- the deception here is horrendous - it's me who constantly struggles to work to standards and reject fringe sources. I accept the general consensus on non-Western source and never use them. I spend much of my time attempting to exclude far worse Western sources. Jaakobou's examples are each (I think) me working to policy and trying to improve articles - eg I object to the 3392:. Understandably, the parties have not articulated specific objectives, a timeline, or the parameters of training, etc. To be sure, the parties have not made strong claims regarding the potential efficacy of their arrangement. (Well, I think some statements suggest that mentorship might be grounds to avoid or postpone more serious sanctions, such as a topic ban.) 3477:. With all due respect to HG, I think that's an unfair and inaccurate characterization. On September 9, I removed a large section of material that duplicated another section in the article. I placed the material on the talk and asked that it not be readded, since it replicated material in another section of the article. One month later, Zeq readded the material 3124:

what. (See my section 4.) He continued, for thirty-eight days, to do so, even as an influx of un-involved parties eroded his side from a minority to a tiny minority. Tewfik reverted constantly, with only desultory and often disruptive comments on talk. Three hundred thousand bytes of discussion accomplished nothing. Only full-protection resolved the situation.

178:, where he has bullied mine into resignation). In Jaakobou's world the mentor is there to find fault with the mentee and (presumably) encourage the community to take action against breaches. Jaakobou tells us he has a mentor - this claim is wholly and deliberately deceptive, since he clearly has some quite different relationship with her/him. Please see my 2741:

question. While it's obviously not arbcom's brief to propose new policies for the project, perhaps it would be a start if arbcom were to recommend that the community set its collective mind to seriously addressing this hitherto intractable problem. I really don't think we can kid ourselves any longer that the current policy framework is adequate. Thanks,

2043:"i am not mousewarrior, i thought my previous reply was clear enough, but here it is stated bluntly for the record... btw.. i request you remove the accusation from abu ali's page since that is defamation. (i'm also not humus sapians and whatever the other name was of a different person who reverted.. i only have one wikipedia editor account)" - 310:- intentionally deceptive - Jaakobou claims there are two incidents since the beginning of my mentoring (September?) which suggest serious mal-practise. One is a trivial incident in which my mentor was doing what was wanted of him/them, the other is (again) a case where I've been heavily criticised and then turned out to be correct all along. 371:- if Jaakobou fails to clear himself of what reasonable people (3 editors we know of) find worrying, then suspicions won't go away. The solution is in his hands, nobody else's. Same thing with the sock-puppeting - he failed to clear himself and behaved in a deeply guilty fashion. This leads to the next and final point re my editing: 4486:. It is this last action that is of particular concern; whether or not the final decision might be reasonable, the more important point is ChrisO feigns non-involvement in these issues so that he can use his admin tools, when, in fact, he is deeply involved, and his POV is well-known. ChrisO should know better, and should allow 273:

shortly abandoned, likely discredited "Community Sanction Noticeboard"). Not only was there no discussion about my mentorship at the time, everyone except the massively problematical Jaakobou forgot about it, and for weeks nothing was done. It was only Jaakobou who demanded I find a mentor. When I found a mentor,

349:(owned by a cult), never picked up by any RS. I'm quite prepared to go through every one of these diffs - there may be one or two I've simply been wrong, but overwhelmingly I'll have been trying to use good sources properly - overwhelmingly, it's been Jaakobou and "allies" who have been distorting the sources. 355:- Jaakobou is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this "content dispute". Elsewhere I've listed 10 highly significant and well-attested portions of this story (all from excellent RSes) that (I would argue) very much need including in the article. But the ArbCom won't look at it, let alone decide it. Ditto 4598:

I apologize for (i) not keeping up with changed circumstances, and (ii) having in all probability antagonized other parties. I did not know I was acting inappropriately, and will not repeat this mistake in the future. However, I must disagree with Armon's description of my actions as "admin abuse".

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PalestineRemembered insisted for several months that the only proper name for the "Battle of Jenin" article was "Jenin Massacre", despite the fact that human rights groups and a U.N. investigation had proved that no massacre had taken place there. He also kept insisting that "Jenin Massacre" was also

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The fact that Jaakobou requests discussing his problematic behaviour off-wiki (in the e-mails he sent he said that he "can probably explain my overall position to you by instant messaging") suggests that he is attempting to sweet-talk editors into overlooking his misdemeanours instead of facing up to

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When you say you think they don't say this, it just isn't plausible; if your command of English were uncertain, that would be one thing, but you're fluent. Hence the widespread disdain you are encountering on this page; editors here can read the HRW report, and they know your misrepresentation of it

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DBWikis and I were getting somewhere when you rather boorishly interrupted. Repeating that the discussion is "failed," "ad nauseum" etc. is either satisfying smackdown-rhetoric or very weakminded name-calling, depending on one's intellectual temperament, but either way it is argumentatively nil; and

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The process for selecting the mentors strikes me as fairly ad hoc. A few admins have played a helpful leadership role in ensuring that the mentorship arrangement is established (and re-established multiple times). Then, the mentors step forward and volunteer. Sometimes they solicited responses from

1830:"All my edits, from very shortly after my arrival, have been examined very, very closely and, apart from some possible conduct issues (incivility? soap-boxing?) have a nearly clean bill of health...I'm quite slow. But that's because I check everything very, very carefully." - 16:19, 8 January 2008 - 291:

The trickle of volunteers to mentor me didn't completely dry up even after weeks of this outrageous abuse of honest people - but I mustn't claim any credit, that was down to the courage of those individuals, and not directly related to the fact that all the evidence of my "problematic behavior" is a

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I believe in avoiding both the reality and appearance of unfairness: I have not blocked editors with whom I've had content disputes, nor have I protected pages where I've been a participant (except in cases of clear vandalism). I've even followed a personal policy of warning editors they've broken

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You're alternately ignoring and misrepresenting what's been stated here, same as you've misrepresented the AfDs, and even misrepresented the position of your ally Tewfik. As for the high-minded boilerplate, it all sounds well and good but there's just no evidence that you sincerely subscribe to any

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page, and was reported. Rather than him being blocked, instead the page was protected. His comment did not express remorse at having edit warred, but instead blamed others for not informing him, and stated that he was "within rights" to do that last revert, but had apparently "forgot the time" - a

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discussion on 17Dec, the lines of debate were already pretty well drawn between other, experienced editors. Many and varied RSs had been provided to validate the (several different) legitimate uses of the word ‘nation’ to describe the Palestinian people collectively in the lead sentence, but there

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said it best when she stated, with regard to this evidence, "Anyone with any doubt that Jay is one of a "cabal" of editors who seek to control the content and tone of articles about Judaism needs to put that doubt to rest, now. Knowledge's articles about Judaism are embarrassingly biased, and Jay's

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It's also clear that just banning one disruptive editor here and there is not nearly enough to fix the problem. What this project desperately needs are tighter policies for dealing with contentious topic areas. The community needs to think hard about what steps can be taken to clean up the pages in

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So, does the new list below provide anything very damaging? Each person reading it will have to make up their own mind. However, I suspect you'll find that Jaakobou is exaggerating wildly. I don't lie, I don't cheat - and I don't get angry. Jaakobou has trawled everything I've ever done and set out

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yesterday) I've made it clear that this is actually above my pay-grade. I will remain convinced that challenging apparent cheating (of all kinds) is the business of individual editors - however, I am becoming more aware that there are procedures for checking out Conflict of Interest, Sock-puppeting

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policy, by continually and needlessly using the Talk: page to made derogatory comments about (or to) other editors. This incessant personalization of debate contributes considerably to the deterioration of discussions on Talk pages related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. A few recent examples

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to get an apology for the accusation but was told this was already being worked out in this Arbcom and admins have put my request on hold pending a resolution here. I notice that Jayjg is not named in this Arbitration but I see the problem I faced is indicative of what this Arbcom is about so have

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and pursue normal dispute resolution. He touched bases with me from time to time after that because he wanted to proceed in accordance to site policies and conduct standards. He hasn’t always been perfect about that, yet I believe he’s making an honest effort. So when RFAR opened I suggested we

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I was truly shocked and disheartened by what transpired. If Knowledge wants involvement from new and/or reasonable editors, then this sort of personal attack, in particular, should not be allowed to happen. I did take it personally, but more than that I believe it quite clearly indicates Itzse’s

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A problematic article title caused a move war. After protection, the debate resolved to 5 editors favouring a new title with Armon & Tewfik favouring the old title. After a heated discussion, Armon essentially declared that he would block the majority solution from being implemented, no matter

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received notes and advice from Avi, Tarc, Jaakobou, Darkwind, FayssalF, Anyeverybody, Nishidani, Eleland, Geni, Kyaa the Catlord, HG, Narson, Zscout370, Tewfik, Thatcher131, Kendrik7, Ryan Postlethwaite, ChrisO, Suicup and others such as GHBerry, Sm8900, Number 57, Durova (no diffs for others) all

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PR, i don't know whether I necessarily agree or disagree with your valid points above, but this is one reason why I gently suggested (to all, not just you) an individual case-by-case approach to all matters here. It would be a relatively simple matter to institute indivdual proceedings against the

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There is a mass of evidence of Jaakobou abusing processes to get others sanctioned. Unfortunately, detailing this involves further identifying "his enemies" exposing them to still more unpleasantness. As best I can tell, each of his targets has been a good, productive editor having good consensual

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Armon has listed five occasions where I've been cautioned for edit-warring. Four such warnings were from other participants in the same content dispute: three from Jaakobou, one from Amoroso. The fifth warning was, I grant, of a different character (and in retrospect should have been followed).

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First, a general comment: I'm aware that I've made mistakes, and I'm prepared to answer for my actions. I also believe this ArbComm gives Knowledge a unique opportunity to improve the tone of discussion on I-P pages. To encourage such an outcome, I've refrained from criticizing persons with whom

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Two or three feet up this page DBWikis and I were engaged in one such serious discussion, one that was getting somewhere, when Armon interrupted with a series of inane insults. He has been trolling ever since, with post after post engaging in faked strawman arguments, obnoxious pseudo-suggestions

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IF no one tells me what my percieved involvement is, beyond the AN/I thread and a couple edits made by travelling from there, I will stay confused. I made some basic statements both at An/I and on the RfAr page about what I'd seen, but beyond general opinions, I'm genuinely not sure why I'm here.

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My first source is my brain. I woke up, and realized, nope, still no clue why I was named. I previously experienced this in prior diffs on friday morning, thursday morning, and on back to monday or so. I can't provide URLs, nor can I provide lobotomy samples, so I realize this make be an argument

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Passing readers of this page might suppose that my behavior is unusually boisterous and aggressive, even if fundamentally honest and good for articles. I'm sorry about that - but anyone daring to post material critical of Israel finds themselves plunged into a maelstrom of nasty personal attacks.

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However, Jaakobou did do us all a service, the important part of mentorship is exactly what he thinks it is - to provide a conduit/filter for complaints. What Jaakobou had not counted on is that I was thriving under this regime. I don't lie and I don't cheat and I don't get angry - so I have very

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Separately, I have presented evidence to Jaakobous "new mentor" suggesting that he has cynically misled the community by lying over at least two other incidents (they're in the "polite interaction" link above). Failure to clarify, address/acknowledge these questions/incidents could make it appear

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in which evidence of on-wiki canvassing was presented. Off-wiki canvassing may have also been used, supporting evidence being Jayjg's now infamous email he mistakenly posted to the Wikien message board calling on several other editors to "watch his back" as he attempted to fix an Israel-related

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I don't want to get into accusations about specific editors. The only thing I want to say is that it's become abundantly clear to me, and surely to many others, that Knowledge simply doesn't have policies that are adequate to dealing with the problem of editors promoting a particular national or

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Caveat: The following evidence is not intended to be exhaustive; I don't have the time or the energy to put forth evidence regarding each editor. I'm simply going to stick with the most blatant violations for now, and leave things to others (especially those who added extra names) to fill in the

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I don't think this constitutes "tag-team editing". RolandR and I were not coordinating our actions, there are three days of quiet between my initial reverts of Zeq's edits (two) and RolandR's reverts of different material added by Zeq (two), followed by my one similar revert. I have asked HG to

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The mentoring arrangement with Jaakobou has apparently functioned at some level since September. (See Durova's evidence, below.) Again, without suggesting any impropriety on either parties role -- esp. since it's a voluntary arrangement -- it would be difficult for the community to evaluate the

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Careful examination of Jaakobou's "evidence" will probably convince you there is no meat there whatsoever. Note the difference between his evidence and my evidence - I bring one very serious allegation the reader can evaluate, and offer to prove it's part of a pattern. Having nothing of quality

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has failed to note that my mentorship has worked either "quite well" or "brilliantly". It is difficult to recognise almost any part of his commentary, starting with "an involuntary arrangement due to a prior ArbCom". My mentorship was pretty much a throw-away suggestion made to close a CSN (the

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Tewfik's equivocations about "indiscriminate" and "disproportionate" (and his disruptive editing of same) are not examples of this. Equally absurd is his argument that it is appropriate to sift through the findings of HR organizations, and present some of them as definitive facts and others as

3439: 3421: 365:- Jaakobou has been harassing people (often newbies) on their TalkPages. I've informed such people that Jaakobou already has a WP "conviction" for such harassment. Jaakobou eventually stopped doing this, but only months after he'd promised to do so, and only because I carried on making a fuss. 118:

Basic standards of civility will be enforced. Editors who are uncivil or who are deliberately provocative (i.e. trolling) will be warned, then banned from editing the case pages for escalating periods of time, enforceable by brief blocks. For the duration of the ban, banned editors may leave

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incident. My aim here is not to find fault with the individuals involved (the incident was handled satisfactorily), but rather to show how multiple editors sometimes engage in reverts -- rather than reach consensus via Talk -- and yet not trigger an individual 3RR. This kind of situation is

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Armon continued to block consensus. On 22 October, he proclaimed that the editors who disagreed with him (Burgas00, G-Dett, IP198, PalestineRemembered, TheFearGod and arguably Okedem, with DBWikis on the fence) were only "repeating failed arguments", being "disruptive", and acting "against

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should have been an "ally" of mine. Unfortunately, his conduct looked like that of a re-named account, a potential sock-puppet. On being met with bluster, I put the point more aggressively. I'm clumsily trying to keep the project clean, using public space, where it belongs (unlike the real

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Perhaps worse, in the same diff, he has apparently attempted gross historical fabrication. Explanation available, regular RSes spoke of trucks and moving bodies. This is not an innocent error, since Jaakobou displays an almost obsessive interest in this incident - see previously mentioned

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The function of this tool has changed since then. Looking over the Administrators page, I can see that its recommended usage is more circumscribed. Unfortunately, I had not kept up with this change. I was not aware that anyone considered the admin revert to be bad form until I received

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He also regularly abuses his admin rollback tool while involved in content disputes, (note, the examples provided only go back to November 8, for the purpose of this case. Most though not all, are to Israel-Palestine related articles, or are reverts of parties named in the Arbitration):

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I don't see what the point is of Jaakobou's evidence regarding my edits beyond attempting to discredit me, as I am not an involved party in this RfAr. I am not proud of it, but unfortunately as I am one of the few non-partisan editors who is willing to deal with dedicated POV-pushers on

252:, where Jaakobou demands the article be filled with accusations that Erekat lied over it. There is a close connection between hate-sources and fabricating historical evidence, especially in the field of denial. We have the result of a famous court case to remind us of this effect. 5126:

Place argument and diffs which support your assertion; for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring.

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reading: “When all NPOV-related issues detailed on the talk page have been handled, the template should be removed...” Needless to say such clear violations discourage one making sourced, NPOV contributions which one knows will be deleted repeatedly by an aggressive “tag team.”

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editors whom you mention. I don't personally have a single thing against either one of them, but in the long run an individual case might be healthier in either clearing their names, or addressing any problems, than the massive quagmire which we might potentially open here. --

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to deceive by his presentation of it. Some that might be dubious is either extremely old or already sorted by CSN, ArbCom or other. None of it comes anywhere near the solid evidence of cheating against him, on which this ArbCom is based, and to which I've now, finally, added.

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Ah yes, Armon the sober analyst, whose preferred titles are List of massacres committed during the Second Intifada and List of mass murders committed during the Second Intifada. Nice to see you're up and trolling again. If you feel like taking a brief break from your endless

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the section. It then became a very short minor edit war reverting the sections deletion without comment. Instead of continuing the revert war I added a cited qualifier sentence to the section which started another revert war to get rid of that. I again gave up and took it to

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you asked for - remember what I told you, this occasion was the very first time accusations against me even came with any evidence. Many people clearly and genuinely found what I'd said offensive - but only because of the culture they came from, people from civilised nations

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Please note that I am not inclined to bring forward counter-evidence against Armon or anyone else with whom I've quarreled on these pages. I still believe that this ArbComm case should look to the future, and take proactive measures to improve the atmosphere on I-P pages.

3030:: this comment is especially interesting, because Xoloz had previously closed an AfD on the case, and Armon had been continually asserting that this AfD represented a strong consensus for his preferred version, ignoring refutations of this claim - see my d24 and d26 above. 4281:

This sort of filibuster and wilful obstructionism on talk pages is in some ways a more serious problem than out-and-out edit-warring in article space; again, if you've read my posts and truly can't find the parts where I answer your very basic queries, take it to my talk

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Take note that the above instances of edit-warring come primarily from November, December, and January, as that's where I limited my investigation. However, given prior blocks for edit-warring, I would not be surprised if edit-warring was an issue even prior to October.

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opinion of any number of other editors who might disagree with his POV. My skin will surely thicken, but I believe that Knowledge should enforce what it says is not allowed, so it doesn't continue to occur. I believe that admin action is the only route toward that end.

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PalestineRemembered provided me no information upon which to begin an investigation, nor did he notify me when he posted his own research. As soon as I found it myself I queried Jaakobou, who appears to be afk. I also contacted an arbitrator to request a checkuser.

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I was named an administrator in 2004. At the time, there were no limitations on the admin revert -- it was just a shortcut for carrying out a common WP activity. I assumed I could to use it for standard reverts, and did not imagine that it would cause controversy.

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Troll's veto will only take you so far, Armon. Opting out of the discussion is your prerogative, but it isn't imcumbent upon any editor here – as Burgas has pointed out – to keep reiterating elementary points for the benefit of a troll who doesn't read or understand

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ethnic viewpoint. The result is that pages involving national or ethnic disputes are in many cases woefully and chronically substandard, and bring the whole of Knowledge into disrepute. No-one is ever going to take Wiki seriously until these problems are addressed.

1825:"I was supposedly placed under "mentorship...We never discovered whether Jaakobou took part in the April 2002 killings in Jenin (generally thought to include "war-crimes")...Mentorship has not failed in my case - it's been a great success." - 12:27, 8 January 2008 - 1716:"I was supposedly placed under "mentorship...We never discovered whether Jaakobou took part in the April 2002 killings in Jenin (generally thought to include "war-crimes")...Mentorship has not failed in my case - it's been a great success." - 12:27, 8 January 2008 - 3382:

Without the aforementioned objectives and evaluation process, it's been difficult for the community to decide how to respond to various complaints about PR's conduct. (I believe PR has requested that his ArbCom case be re-opened so as to revisit the arrangement and

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your suggestion of substituting "mass murder" for "massacre" is decisive evidence that either (a) the conceptual terms of the discussion you're dismissing have gone over your head; or (b) you are a troll. Take a time-out, and come back when you're ready to discuss.

4622:. Two editors with whom I'd previously quarreled on I-P articles gave notice that they could accept a key aspect of my proposal (ie. that the lede image be moved but not deleted). I interpreted this as indicating general support for my position, per my comments 2126:, Jaakobou notes that during this RfArb case, he will refrain from participating in controversies on nineteen articles. Perhaps unsurprisingly, he has been disruptive on many of the those articles. Most notably (refer to the histories of the respective articles): 4405:

has frequently adopted the pretense that he is not involved in Palestine-Israel related articles, but rather is an impartial admin, merely observing and applying policy. This, however, is not the case. For example (including Talk: pages), he has made 31 edits to

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Tewfik, Armon has been egregiously trolling this page. I do not owe him any apology for saying as much. On the contrary, he owes me thanks for my patience, and he owes everyone here an apology for wasting our time, misrepresenting our positions and insulting our

5073:) might be a sockpuppet used for tag-team editing. That user account appeared less than three weeks ago. It has no user page or information on the talk page. All edits are on Israel/Jewish related subjects. The very first edit by this editor uses <ref: --> 4514:

This is why reading Armon's "evidence" was disappointing for me. I believe his findings are both sensationalized and inflammatory, and assume bad faith without cause. I'm aware the end result portrays me in a bad light, which I do not believe to be warranted.

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Israel-related articles, on occasion this kind of thing will happen. I hope that this RfAr will actually lead to either blocks or behavioural directives for the problematic editors so that I have a basis for dealing with them in a more direct manner in future.

607:, once Jaakobou realised that he is in trouble, he changed tact and sent e-mails describing me as "sensible" "reasonable" and "neutral" (I can forward them to anyone who wants proof). Whether this makes him a liar or just two-faced I shall leave you to decide. 5041: 4265:

That's interesting; I question the good faith – and frankly, the literacy – of editors who claim that other editors have claimed that "Israel is an apartheid state" when they haven't. Stay on topic, Viriditas, and don't deviate into polemical discussions and

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I tried to improve my contributions according to criticisms, but there always were new excuses to delete, by Tewfik or a couple people who may or may not have been a loose "tag team." In Talk I said I thought some of these later deletions were violations of

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Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.

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has been edit-warring on a series of articles for some time, and has had this brought up with him by a number of different editors on his Talk page (note, examples brought only go back to late October, which is all that is really relevant to this case):

2807:. One group favoured a list of all mass killings, including Israeli killings of Palestinians by military action. The other group favoured a list showing only those attacks carried out with an utterly undeniable intent on maximum innocent death. (e.g. 1311: 382:

etc. I'm sorry that my experience of RfC and other procedures is that these things are simply swarmed by involved editors poisoning the ambience. Even when there is a conclusion, Jaakobou will ignore it and encourage others to ignore it (see above).

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were still several editors holding out for the recently-protected version. Their arguments over this word’s non-use seemed (to me also) just argumentative and non-RS’d, so a ‘reliable denial’ RS had been requested (and has yet to be provided).

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good-faith edits: in the first case, he changed the title but completely ignored the lead of the article and in the second case, he mis-read his source, making it quite clear that these were drive-by edits to push his point in the discussion on

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The community has never clarified any specific objectives for mentorship. Does mentorship cover the editor's use of sources, Talk page conduct, understanding of policy, adherence to neutrality, resort to dispute resolution processes, all of the

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which was suddenly flooded by editors supporting the revert, however none of these editors would explain relevance instead arguing the section had to stay for NPOV without any explanation of why it was relevant despite my asking for a reason.

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for all actions of an editor (as those will have changed by the time people click on your links), although a link to a log for a specific article or a specific block log can be useful. Please make sure any page section links are permanent. See

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Despite my offer to withdraw my entire evidence statement if PalestineRemembered retracts spurious allegations against me, PR has withdrawn nothing and has compounded the problem by attempting to speak on my behalf both in new statements here

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Other editors repeatedly have stated that “Jewish lobby” is used frequently in a neutral way by both Jewish groups and mainstream media to describe Jews lobbying for various causes, including Israel. Examples of editors POV concerns include:

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is a good demonstration of the astonishing way that Jaakobou has abused the consensual nature of other editors (including an admin) to bully and over-rule 8 other editors over a trivial (and BLP breaching) addition he has insisted on. The

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While it is too late to remedy his past abuses of his admin tools, it is important to note his on-going involvement in this topic area, so that he does again not make the error of using his admin tools should issues or conflicts arise.

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is in an involuntary arrangement due to a prior ArbCom case. Jaakobou is in a voluntary arrangement, which he has emphasized in light of this case. In order to assess the value of such mentorship to the overall need to reduce the I-P

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My apologies if I don’t do this perfectly, but even though this is a side issue with me, it is very frustrating that even making a simple edit on one of these pages can drag you into a big edit war and even insinuations of bigotry.

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It is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff in question, or to a short page section; links to the page itself are insufficient. Never link to a

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As for personal attacks, the relevant one here is your stupid and as yet unretracted COI accusation. If and when you stop trolling, bluffing, and posting gibberish, I'll re-engage you without prejudice, but for now we're

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I am quite sure that this evidence will be met with the response that "the other side" also edit-warred and acted incivil. I admit that I did both - and I have even shown diffs of this. But the context matters. Assuming

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votes to torpedo Number 57's bid for adminship, apparently in retaliation for his not being on their side in content disputes. A couple of the parties' names mentioned in this case are present in that RfA, including

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and what Human Rights Watch called "Israeli forces ... causing civilian deaths by firing indiscriminately into Hebron's Palestinian neighborhoods." Suffice it to say that affairs devolved into mutual incivility

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a much more popular term based on a Google search. When others pointed out that his Google results were inaccurate and misleading, he started repeating the phrase "Hated Google Test" in multiple comments, (e.g.

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I should note that I've abandoned attempts to resolve this matter through edit-warring (apart from a brief, mostly symbolic statement of purpose in early January), and have taken my comments to the talk page.

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and conclude that. At the least, they showed extreme partisanship to the point of Orwellian doublethink. ArbCom should sanction editors who show long-term inability to represent their sources accurately.

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I regard PalestineRemembered's behavior as a series of unwarranted smears upon my reputation and - unless he withdraws them all promptly - I urge the Committee to handle these as personal attacks.

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This takes us up to 19 November, about a week after move protection expired. Burgas00 moved the page to the "Attacks on Israeli non-combatants" title; Armon reverted him within twelve minutes. (

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The admin revert does not confer any particular ability: it's merely a shortcut. I do not believe this was an abuse of trust, and will note that Armon did not raise this concern before now.

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against 8 other editors throughout the entire 16 month existence of the TalkPage. Not all 8 editors agreed with me that it was also a breach of BLP, biographies of living people - but admin

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In Conclusion: If some systematic way of dealing with this partisanship problem is not created, it will keep angering and driving away good editors and hurting the credibility of Knowledge.

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In the last few days editors sharing Jayjg’s POV view of the article repeatedly have deleted my “Limited” template on the article even though I have referred to and explicitly quoted

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The harassment of my mentors is easy to see - and there are numerous other cases of editors suffering serious pile-ons because they've appeared to cooperate with me. On one occasion

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on this article has been open 16 months - it is completely full of just this one incident, dramatically illustrating the way his tactics frustrate other editors and damage articles.

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Jaakobou is notorious for having poor English and a confusing style. He has clearly had an enormous amount of help to produce this evidence, since he has made previous attempts (eg

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I am disappointed to see PalestineRemembered cast aspersions upon my limited involvement for the second time in his evidence. The first time he did so I objected at his talk page

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believed the mentorship was not working noting that, "In the face of evidence that the editor has no intention of abiding by the policies and guidelines, mentorship is useless."

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The Hebron question really deserves close analysis. Tewfik and Armon insisted that HRW's report didn't describe attacks on civilians. To my eyes, no literate person could read

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told us HG (of all people!) was "much too buddy-buddy" with me, and torpedoed a mediation he was trying to organise. The poison of what Jaakobou has been doing is spreading.

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This kind of tag team editing/reverting has occurred before and after these cases. However, I found that reporting such cases is an unpleasant drain on my time, as is this

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Thus, by 23 October, Armon concluded that "we should stick to the consensus version", meaning the version favoured by him and Tewfik alone against almost everybody else. (

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My edit history had problems, as most of the people involved. Following two deserving blocks (above 3 hours) I've obtained mentorship and pledge to improve my conduct.

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Although much evidence is being presented here on bad faith editing by the parties involved, this conflict has also extended outside of article space. In Number 57's

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And, of course, there is his heavy involvement in the whole "apartheid" set of articles, including his initial abuse of admin tools that precipitated the first case,

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Or you want to throw up a new and equally ad hoc definition of "massacre," one you hope will more successfully gerrymander Palestinian atrocities from Israeli ones?

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This leads us to Armon and 6SJ7's ongoing confusion, which is of a very different order from Ironduke's casual and colloquial conflation of nation and nation-state.

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is a sock can be cited as reasons why the checkuser request should be granted. If the request is run, and confirmed, then you can call him/her a sock all you want.

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of articles will lead to uncivil responses. Pushing POV with disingenuous arguments will cause edit wars. ArbCom will not take sides in a content dispute; ArbCom

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I believe that I could document how Armon and Tewfik deploy almost identical tactics to other pages, for similar reasons, but this evidence is over-long as is.

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Jaakobou constantly reverts the input of other editors. Aside from the evidence presented above under "reverting vandalism of others" and being detwinkled, his

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that he may indeed have lied to the community in these cases. Even more disturbingly, he may think he can brazen out this ArbCom and continue these practices.

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Your questions have been answered, a great many times. Read. If you're still befuddled, I will answer any question (no matter how redundant) on my talk page.

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Armon's assessment of the NAS/3RR case is inaccurate. I won't deny that I was careful to observe the letter of the 3RR, but I wasn't "merely gaming" it.

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When you say you think they don't say this, you are lying; the widespread disdain you are encountering on this page is a direct result of your dishonesty.

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I invite other parties to politely correct any mistakes I have made in recounting and characterizing the mentorship process. Hope this is useful. Thanks,

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article. The article would be libelous and extremely biased if there weren’t one or two editors willing to fight it out with Jaakobou month after month.

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This one diff (evidence of both behaviors), was likely an indef-blocking offence when Jaakobou wrote it, before we start examining his editing record.

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and at that point PalestineRemembered extended the apology cited in his diff above. I replied by offering to collaborate on an uncontroversial topic.

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runs out of arguments and quietly backs out, leaving the dispute unresolved. I suspect that if not blocked, he'll be back to move it in a few weeks.

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I've already acknowledged my responsibility for edit-warring on I-P articles, and apologized. I don't think my activities should be overstated.

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Fortunately, this mistake on my part doesn't affect the substance of this case, which was originally raised by others without my participation.

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are heavily engaged in editing Judaism related articles, of which the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is but one area. Perhaps former arbitrator

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allegations. Sophistries like this are an insult to the intelligence, and deserve to be ignored or flatly rebuked by any editor of good faith.

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violated 3RR (removing: "Israeli died of...") but admitted that the information has a place on the article after edit warring to keep it out.

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Please note that this evidence is in regards to the first article where I had an edit war (or perhaps should say witnessed editing abuses) -

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in the I-P topic area. How many articles have been protected in the past year? How many have had AfD or Move disputes? 3RR incidents, etc?

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Edits by this editor aren't bad, but they tend to appear when the usual suspects are coming close to 3RR and need backup. Worth a look. --

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late last year. Even then, I wasn't aware there was general consensus against its usage. Apart from Nihiltres and Armon, I cannot recall

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The arrangement with PR has had a troubled history. I think there have been three former mentors, currently there are a pair of mentors.

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and told me to accept the consensus that the section was relevant. No reason was required for relevance as "they" decided it just was.

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Your wikilawyering about "indiscriminate" is likewise dead in the water, Tewfik, and has seriously eroded my belief in your good faith.

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The arrangement does not seem to provide any evaluation mechanism. (Well, there have been AN/I's and requests to ArbCom are plausible.)

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Yet he has reverted this description to his preferred version at least 14 times since then without Talk page comment on the subject:

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I can’t see why he assumes such bad faith: shortly before this RFAR opened I helped a Palestinian editor with an image edit request

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Unfortunately, PalestineRemembered continues to claim something Machiavellian is afoot, both here and at another editor’s user talk.

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Let's not lose the forest for the trees. As evidence piles up against individuals, let's also compile the evidence of the overall

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from Hizb ut Tahrir once aired on the BBC. I seek to exclude a breath-takingly "surprising" claim by a worrying journalist in the

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with a suggestion for indef-block, due to problematic history, gross BLP violations (Allegation that Jaakobou is a war criminal:

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Three days later, Zeq added two paragraphs to the section that already had much of the information he had been trying to add

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and this is not my submission. If this does count towards the word and diff limitations, let me know and I will remove it.

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This sort of thing goes a long way toward explaining why editors have begun to regard your posts with a measure of disdain.

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I believe that the partial presenting of diffs is misleading (I think that's what PalestineRemembered/RolandR have done):

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article. I’m really not qualified to comment on the substance of the disagreement, but I encouraged him to open an RFC

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is always willing to start a discussion regarding the most trivial edits, yet he is incapable of following through with

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Jaakobou has again set out to confuse, this time with quantity (and very impressive, near professional presentation!).

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who edits mostly on Isarel-Palestine and related issues. Even a novice like me can see Jaakobou seems to engage in

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problematic with Israeli-Palestinian topics, where there are often multiple folks on each "side" of such disputes.

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Finally the page was move-protected. I posted a "Neutrality of title disputed" template; Armon removed it accusing

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Armon is apparently so impressed with the findings of his own one-man ad hoc amateur academic peer-review board...

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also uses the word "occupied" and hence, for consistency, we should also use that term when referring to the

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This is humor, but really, please tell me why I was named, and what's expcted of me in this case? Thank you.

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CasualObserver'48: "The current list is absolutely one-sided", favours a combined list but will accept two (

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and in effect accused me of anti-Semitism despite the “debate” being up to this point relatively civil. I

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Give it up, Tewfik. Many Wikipedians can read, and will make short work of your ridiculous deceptions.

4179: 3076:). This shifted the move war back into an edit war, where both !sides fought over whether events like 2545: 4191: 4171: 4151: 4147: 4065: 3960: 3879: 3571:, plus 8 Edits on Nov. 15 which cut the article by more than half. Next he requested a full quote at 2327: 2310: 1675:"I declare a CoI in this discussion - but I can tell you my mentoring was working extremely well." - 537: 50:

Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Create your own section and

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Done, and as usual there's nothing there. Except your stupid and as yet unretracted COI accusation.

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noted that, "your mentor is here to help you...He can't do a good job when you are misleading him."

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Repetition of, "Jaakobou has harassed other users and admins on talk and even been blocked for it"

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He regularly accusese other editors of "suppressing information", "censorship" or "denying facts"

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to be irrelevant to the article as it had almost nothing to do with Khazars which I explained in

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Yes, I realize the case is closed. The WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration has worked on

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take sides against complex forms of abuse and disruption, including those forms detailed above.

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and I put a lot of work into restoring a historical Palestinian-related image currently on FPC

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In any case, it is not supposed to happen. I might be new to Knowledge, but am reasonable and

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Currently, two of the more controversial involved parties are in mentorship, PR and Jaakobou.

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has now effectively said the same thing, we don't write Erekat's biography as if he's a liar.

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the 3RR, and allowing them to self-revert before listing them on the notice board (examples:

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Beit Or: Don't know, seemed to lean towards Armon & Tewfik; he had previously commented (

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Within 24 hours, the first revert-type edit on a topic covered by this arbitration appeared.

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about exclusion of information that might embarrass the state of Israel and its supporters.

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HG cites me as a party in "tag-team editing" due to my reverts of material added by Zeq to

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Talk:Media coverage of the Arab-Israeli conflict#cartoon dispute II - what the sources say

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Talk:Jewish_lobby#What_About_NON-Israel_Jewish_Lobbying.2C_Like_Versus_Anti-Semitism.3F.3F

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After it was speedily deleted, he still threated to recreate it as a "significant part of

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That's not a newbie. This behavior is right out of "Characteristics of sock puppets" in

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Well done, old boy. Y'all finished reading the internet? Thanks for the truckload of BS.

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over the disputed sentence with the four parties, the disputatious edit was disruptive.

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Armon isn't aware of it because he doesn't/can't read and is here to troll, endlessly.

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/House demolition in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict‎

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Tewfik repeatedly deleted sourced material from article he was trying to delete/merge

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such that it includes the term, using a bogus quote as justification (see arguments

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After I blocked Jaakobou at the end of December for his continuous edit warring, he

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was not meant as "not edit-warring at all" and I haven't issued an unblock request.

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Repeated reinsertion of huge criticism section to article on left-wing journalist

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is over-the-top. Personally, I would find it degrading to "debate" this with you.

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I'd like to invite all people, involved parties or not, to help put together the

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articles, assumes conflicts with fellow editors (some POV warriors) are my fault.

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re-inserted the term anyway, claiming that he had "won" the RfC by +5 votes (as

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Jayjg and "Tag Team" Insisted on POV Definition versus Majority of Other Editors

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from special knowledge, and I apologize, but I assure you, my brain's mixed up.

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before using the last evidence template, please make a copy for the next person

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When this situation unfolded, I believed I had consensus to make my changes at

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Jaakobou displays many of the characteristics of problem editors as defined at

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Following a discussion on whether to use the term "hostage" when referring to

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consensus" (him and Tewfik) and invited us to instead "discuss the options". (

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making it impossible to build together an improved and balanced article. See

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You'll see also that the noticeboard that day (10/19/07) has 3RR reports on

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Despite constantly labelling me as a POV pusher or someone with "POV issues"

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about the I-P and the more general MidEast conflicts. When I joined the

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for Israeli-Palestinian articles. Thanks for your cooperation and input.

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Itzse, thinking my comment was for himself, or being sarcastic, replied

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Armon and Tewfik uncivilly and disingenuously push POV against consensus

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skull-duggery we know goes on in private). I don't want him sanctioned.

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as an excuse to constantly revert edits and ignores repeated claims of

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Following a long discussion regarding the use of the word "occupied" (

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Just for the record. I asked CasualObserver to retract his accusation

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G-Dett is also soapboxing on Talk: pages. Here is a classic example:

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suggesting, reaching, accepting or abiding to a compromise. Not one.

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to block an article or to force the insertion/deletion of material.

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Carlossuarez: "I think that Eleland's and Xoloz's title has merit" (

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Talk:Jewish_lobby#This_is_MOST_POV_Page_I.27ve_seen_on_Wikipedia.21

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Talk:Jewish_lobby#NPOV_concerns_and_suggestion Talk - NPOV Concerns

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convenient little slip-up is just the smoking gun that proves it."

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Number 57: List should include terror attacks by Israeli settlers (

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rather than source reliability; Rejecting reliable sources such as

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I had no idea, nor did I even consider what that might bring, but

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Terraxos: "The best solution here might be to create two lists " (

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Find a decent dictionary, and look up "willful" and "deliberate."

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article. Although it was reliably sourced material, I believed a

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In the interim, however, I was considerably disturbed and posted

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seem to me, like an "honest" attempt at misleading the committee.

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And lately he's been just blanking out sources and paragraphs...

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After so much time on wikipedia - and under mentorship, he still

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only to block an article in his preferred state, since he makes

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regarding the use of the terms "occupied" when referring to the

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Talk:Media coverage of the Arab-Israeli conflict#Cartoon Dispute

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for many other less involved or less combative editors. Thanks.

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The Evil Spartan: "Overly-POV name", a pox on both your houses (

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then returns two weeks later to re-remove the term "occupied" (

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Allegations of French apartheid

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When you're done licking your wounds see options 1 and 2 above.

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Itzse makes personal attacks for suprisingly Itsy-Bitsy reasons

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by almost a dozen editors with mostly miscellaneous interests.

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Three representative samples (click "" to see more and worse):

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is credible, perhaps very credible" - 10:27, 28 August 2007 -

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Three representative samples (click "" to see more and worse):

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modify his comments to take some of these facts into account

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During the time since my last evidence post I've helped the

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PalestineRemembered has no authority to speak on my behalf.

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Talk:Jewish_lobby#Jewish_lobby.2FIsrael_lobby_back_and_forth

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based on the theory that he's threatened by the Israeli gov.

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This page is not for general discussion - for that, see the

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To call Jaakobou "tendentious" barely scratches the surface

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You've covered very little ground in a great many words...

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The following day, I read through the 17 new posts (10 by

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List of Israeli civilian casualties in the Second Intifada

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My explanation for the admin reverts is a bit different.

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clear indication that he was merely gaming the 3RR rule:

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article regarding the description of a specific cartoon:

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I’ll assume the best unless evidence proves otherwise.

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Official Israel-Palestine editing battleground statistics

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Jaakobou knows the purpose of a mentor (see his comments

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and his mentor agreed his insinuations were problematic,

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to prove it. The information which leads you to believe

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As a specific example, there has been a dispute on the

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List of massacres committed during the Second Intifada

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relationships with most of the rest of the community.

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He also abused his admin tools by closing the AfD on

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Knowledge:Resolving_disputes#Step_1:_Focus_on_content

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and after Zeq added it again, RolandR again reverted

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is typical of PalestineRemembered's editing pattern.

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He Has been blocked more than once for violating the

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Response to Jaakobou's allegations against my editing

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should indeed be called the "occupied territories" (

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and the use of the word "hostage" when referring to

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Knowledge:Requests_for_arbitration/Israeli_apartheid

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House demolition in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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There's no need for this wretched casuistry, Tewfik.

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Knowledge:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration

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No specific timeline seems to have been established.

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Finally, by 29 November, the article was protected (

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Bless sins: "I support Eleland in the proposition" (

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a response in which he said his recent reverting on

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House demolition in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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article, which was speedily deleted on the same day.

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Comment on the presentation of Jaakobou's 'evidence'

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Create your own section to provide evidence in, and

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WP:NPOV_tutorial#Moral_and_political_points_of_view

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Jaakobou believes his edit warring can be justified

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PalestineRemembered - what's this about harassment?

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Jaakobou has abused process to silence good editors

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Only Arbitrators may edit /Proposed decision. 4911:did not like the formatting of the first one). 4667:has shown more than once that he is willing to 3592:Talk:Samson_Option#Why_this_article_remains_POV 1894:<- admin rollback tool in a content dispute. 1431:of being a sock-puppet of a proven sock-master 983:reminded that "this is a last chance for PR" - 494:He repeatedly undoes the "vandalism" of others 5007:at ending them. My assumption is that he uses 4957:In the discussion following the move-war over 4857:Following a lengthy discussion on whether the 4361:What Tewfik is pretending not to understand... 3716:Knowledge:NPOV_tutorial#Handling_NPOV_disputes 3588:My Comment on Mass Deletions and Wiki Policies 3270:principle, here are two incidents I reported: 1390:"You look very much like a sock-puppet to me." 190:Jaakobou appears to have lied to the community 3573:Talk:Samson_Option#Problems_with_this_article 2761:{assertion one: I have no clue why I'm here.} 1573:"Does that mean you'd allow the residents of 658:), and even using it in edit summaries (e.g. 119:comments on the talk page of any non-recused 5082:"You either misunderstand, or misapply what 5015:to reach a solution or accept a compromise. 4511:I've had serious disagreements in the past. 2725:was justified, and not edit-warring at all. 831:User:Kendrick7 20:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC) 4536:Media Coverage of the Arab-Israeli Conflict 4444:Media coverage of the Arab-Israeli conflict 4091:Media Coverage of the Arab-Israeli Conflict 3777:I (probably wrongly) used sarcasm in reply 3495:. Zeq did not reinsert the same material. 1010:rejects sources based on the content within 5080:Two weeks later, he's writing things like 4475:, then protected it on his preferred name. 4463:Knowledge:Centralized discussion/Apartheid 3575:put when I put it up he deleted it anyway. 3006:Agamemmon2: Word "massacre" is divisive; ( 2973:Rjecina: "I support Eleland's proposal " ( 2803:Around 1 October an edit war flared up on 1108:(here's promotion of Morris earlier works 822:User:Anynobody 02:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 4972:In all disputes in the articles in which 4786:, for the sake of winning an argument on 3931:as Jaakobou's mentor Durova would tell us 2833:Support quickly formed for a compromise ( 236:Jaakobou was unfit as an editor all along 136:Evidence presented by PalestineRemembered 4930:regarding the use of the term "hostage" 3729:Carol Moore 20:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 3348:Mentorship arrangements need improvement 2955:) previously uninvolved editors arrived: 2715:Definitions of Palestine and Palestinian 2597:: late-December 2007, early-January 2008 2503:: late-December 2007, early-January 2008 2461:Definitions of Palestine and Palestinian 4471:Allegations of Northern Irish apartheid 4424:Israel-United States military relations 4201:On December 24, he violated 3RR on the 3739:Evidence presented by CasualObserver'48 3693:Talk:Jewish_lobby#Major_POV_push_today. 3020:Xoloz: "I support eleland's proposal" ( 734:His response/reasoning for the charges: 375:Trampling on the toes of the Foundation 141:Jaakobou's sock-puppeting, the evidence 14: 5112:Evidence presented by {your user name} 4707:), I point out that an article, which 4378:- this was subsequently "softened" to 2097:, and addition of my public statement 1990:issue, are missing from his statement. 1089:'s new and less pro-palestinan works ( 170:Jaakobou has misled us over his mentor 4959:Occupation of the Gaza Strip by Egypt 4733:Occupation of the Gaza Strip by Egypt 4713:Occupation of the Gaza Strip by Egypt 4595:receiving a complaint on this front. 3896:Talk:Battle_of_Jenin#RfC_-_NPOV_title 3880:Knowledge:FPC#Coffee_grinding.2C_1905 3305:Causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus 2367:Occupation of the Gaza Strip by Egypt 1414:is a sockpuppet of proven sockmaster 1345:is a sockpuppet of proven sockmaster 758:"was never more than a WP guide-line" 730:) and edit-warring plagiarized text. 58:and keep responses to other evidence 52:do not edit in anybody else's section 5086:says as it relates to this article. 4896:Following the ensuing discussion on 3501:. This edit was reverted by RolandR 1381:"two other firm defenders of Israel" 671:) He eventually decided to create a 551:He often breaks inserts sections of 199:Jaakobou in action, just one example 107: 29: 4538:cartoon, I will say the following: 3925:and his mentor defends his position 3440:I-P editing battleground statistics 2221:: edit warring in mid-December 2007 1418:is credible, perhaps very credible" 27: 4950:). He alludes to further steps in 4518:Let's take his points one by one: 4490:uninvolved admins to act instead. 3598:Jaakobou edit wars harming article 3548:and using “anti-semitic” sources 2723:Islam: What the West Needs to Know 701:'s early perspectives/statements: 265:Response to HG, explain mentorship 74:, an editor's contributions, or a 28: 18:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration 5148: 5056:) involvement in tag-team editing 4845:There are several cases in which 4811:Talk:Israeli-Palestinian conflict 4685:Talk:Israeli-Palestinian conflict 4480:Allegations of American apartheid 4221:chronically violates Knowledge's 4028:for an apology but instead Jayjg 3461:I am still compiling Evidence at 3273:A tag team reverting incident at 2109:Evidence presented by Tariqabjotu 742:"in the interests of the project" 42:do not edit anyone else's section 4976:has been involved, there is not 4934:, a compromise was suggested by 4459:Allegations of Israeli apartheid 3948:make dramatic improvements in a 3876:User_talk:Durova#Help_with_image 3545:was charging me with “hysteria” 3266:For evidence to support Malik's 2901:) which was reverted by Tewfik ( 1760:." - 20:27, 10 September 2007 - 304:But I'll go through bits of it: 111: 62:. A short, concise presentation 33: 4737:Rule of the Gaza Strip by Egypt 4683:), is the recent discussion on 3699:. My first two comments were: 2951:On 9 November I filed an RFC. ( 2756:Evidence presented by {ThuranX} 1427:"the nominator in this case is 369:Repetition of other accusations 4938:and accepted by most editors, 4762:does not use that expression. 3697:Talk:Jewish_lobby#Usual_POVing 3565:. . Mass Removals are here: 1971:been notified about (such as: 624:Evidence presented by Jaakobou 13: 1: 3492:and reverted the reinsertion 3226:(acknowledged by Jayjg here: 2070:09:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 704:(+ 3 samples of edit wars):* 430:Reply to Palestine Remembered 5107:17:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC) 4946:states, RfCs are not votes, 4917:which he himself had started 4689:Israeli-occupied territories 4644:06:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC) 4050:19:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC) 3980:Evidence presented by WLRoss 3975:02:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 3912:09:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC) 3842:18:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 3819:03:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC) 3457:Evidence presented by Tiamut 3451:10:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC) 3433:03:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC) 3404:01:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC) 3342:20:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 3323:12:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 3214:00:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 3169:23:28, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 2785:22:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 2751:10:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 2226:Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2088:10:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 2014:00:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 1930:19:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 685:This kind of soapboxing and 615:Reply to Jaakobou's evidence 555:undue weight into articles. 445:15:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 425:Evidence presented by Sm8900 420:13:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 401:13:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 260:14:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 165:17:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 128:22:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 7: 5131:{Write your assertion here} 5122:{Write your assertion here} 5037:Evidence presented by Nagle 4804:. These modifications were 3131:A note on moral equivalence 3089:, et al.) and edit-warring. 1470:18:33, 21 September 2007 - 1461:18:02, 21 September 2007 - 1452:08:40, 11 September 2007 - 517:for using it in edit wars. 10: 5153: 4915:then left the discussion, 4851:dispute resolution process 3961:Image:Coffeepalestine1.jpg 3761:My first contribution was 3563:Israel and nuclear weapons 3042:DGG: Basically abstained ( 2072::p.s. change of testimony 1590:19:18, 30 December 2007 - 1568:09:06, 13 November 2007 - 1439:12:29, 4 September 2007 - 1422:22:21, 1 September 2007 - 1292:The War Crimes Insinuation 1290:Very recent repetition of 799:have failed to reach him. 343:quoting of a fringe theory 81:simple diff and link guide 4898:"occupied" vs. "captured" 4758:that the main article on 3984:I had a problem with the 3486:and readded the material 1628:10:05, 15 January 2008 - 1617:21:13, 10 January 2008 - 1608:15:58, 10 January 2008 - 1581:6:18, 22 November 2007 - 1539:11:29, 20 October 2007 - 1533:18:26, 18 October 2007 - 1520:16:54, 12 October 2007 - 1506:15:07, 12 October 2007 - 1060:, (+others, while adding 281:little to be afraid of. 22:Palestine-Israel articles 5074:tags and template boxes. 4230:, and are restricted to 4035:I then started a WP:ANI 3955:joined the newly formed 3917:More PalestineRemembered 3354:PR (PalestineRemembered) 3257:Evidence presented by HG 3013:Kyaa the catlord: ibid ( 2118:Jaakobou edit wars often 2054:- 04:18, 2 February 2007 2046:- 07:49, 1 February 2007 2038:- 16:18, 31 January 2007 1958:"admit... together with 1599:12:39, 6 January 2008 - 1584:- (Ryan Postlethwaite:) 1497:18:48, 5 October 2007 - 1405:10:27, 28 August 2007 - 1394:21:40, 26 August 2007 - 1385:10:18, 25 August 2007 - 1376:16:10, 14 August 2007 - 801:(click "" to see diffs): 145:I became convinced that 3754:Talk:Palestinian people 3750:reasonably knowledgable 3475:Arab citizens of Israel 3409:Battleground statistics 3330:Arab citizens of Israel 3286:Arab citizens of Israel 3182:Bad faith participation 1993:Following the block by 1488:14:48, 9 August 2007 - 1479:09:27, 9 August 2007 - 1218:15:54, 16 December 2007 1159:and "jenininquiry.org" 780:mentorship prior to ban 333:User:Ryan_Postlethwaite 92:within your own section 4660:is a disruptive editor 4649:Evidence presented by 4498:Evidence presented by 4058:Evidence presented by 3886:Mentorship of Jaakobou 3848:Evidence presented by 3804:on G-Dett’s talk page. 3521:Evidence presented by 3284:In an edit dispute at 3174:Evidence presented by 2790:Evidence presented by 2729:Evidence presented by 1126:jewsagainstzionism.com 453:Evidence presented by 64:will be more effective 3928:and at his user page 3856:Bad faith assumptions 3489:. 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