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category-sets, people are included as Communist Party Politicians because well-intentioned other folks who take a monocultural view of the world assume the political system under communist dictatorships operates (or in the case of cenral Europe used to operate) more or less the same way they do in the US and so keep deleting the category for Communist Party Membership. It really ain't necessarily so! A wiki-category can be a whole lot more than a mere badge of automated wiki-notability for those without the time to consider such things case by case. A Communist Party politician is one thing. A Communist Party member is another thing. They are both hugely significant in terms of the way society operates and is controlled by those seeking to pull the strings. If you view everything through the prism of how politics works in Washington, you will miss out on a whole raft of understandings. Much of the anglophere is already eye-wateringly ignorant and uncomprehending about the way people think and the way societies work in those countries where folks don't have the sheer human decency to do their politics and write up all their reports in God Own Language. Please don't gratuitously further narrow wikpedia's comprehension in this way. There are many more dimensions in politics - and beyond politics - than the one you grew up with! Success.
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Rather than staying limited to "violence against men," "violence against women," or "child abuse," moving Wiki articles and categories toward explicitly reflecting the varying vulnerabilities boys and girls experience in childhood in respect to abuse - physical, emotional, and sexual - is something that is needed. Just because it hasn’t happened ‘’yet’’, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t ‘’ever’’ happen. By keeping the category broad, “incidents of violence against boys” also includes incidences of violence beyond just familial 2657:(although party members were not always better off or in more coveted employment positions than others). I would rate being a member of the ruling communist party in a communist country as less defining than one's religion, but much more so than being an alumnus at a unviersity, and we seem to consider both defining. Certainly it was important enough that here in former Yugoslavia, 30 years after the fall of communism, whether someone was in the Party and what was their role there can still be a worthy political gossip topic on a slow news day. I also support 991:, I see that "she" was not in R from people prior to my contribution (instance, above) and that this cat never was placed in a subcat of R from people. Such a next step must have been intended: creation and population (by documented diffusion from R from people) of some new Rcat --"from mass murder victims", even "from victims of crime"-- parallel to the five subcats {J M R S W} we have now in R from people. (And had then, for I know this quintet as the 2014/15 Rsubcats from people, although I have not worked on redirects since then.) -- 1628:), and patterns of violence against male children (serial killers and rapists). And I think it may be a legitimate question in your own mind, but personally, I just think we’re framing it in the wrong way. To me, it’s less of a question of “why do we need a category about boys when we don’t have one about girls” and more a question of “why don’t we have one about girls yet?” I think writing these articles and building these categories to expand the complexity of the topic is important. 1869: 1574:"Violence against women" and "violence against men" have Knowledge articles. The vast majority of violence (including domestic violence) material in the literature is about women and men. It makes sense that we have categories concerning those topics. We don't have a Violence against children article (or specifically a Violence against girls or Violence against boys article); what we do have is the 192:-- The consensus is to omit the word "Roman", except where there are other substantial denominations that use the word "Catholic". 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I checked out after reading your comment, and the BLPs linked were related to incidents of violence against male children... generally serial killers and pedophiles targeting male children. I'm also generally confused by your comparative argument, it seems to be 1500:— The arguments for deletion seem confused. They’re arguing the category is too vague/broad, while simultaneously arguing it’s just too specific (categorizing by gender?). Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. BLPs should be linked by subheadings directly related to incidents of violence, but overall the category is valid. 2652:
per Charles01. CP membership in a communist country has little to do with membership in a political party in a modern Western democracy. Communist Party in a communist country was the country's sole legal political party, and, for starters, didn't accept all comers. Membership in it not only conveyed
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one projects general knowledge of political history of Czechoslovakia on the biography. Which brings me to the other point you raised: if other one-party states should be evaluated on their own merits: then by what criterion? That is an especially relevant question as the criterion cannot obviously
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Also by keeping this category we will be attributing crimes of a totalitarian regime to individual people who have not been convicted of those crimes. Biography articles should be judged on their own properties, not on what we think about the political system these people were working in. Basically
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All the pages are redirects. Much the same as following may be true of some sibling/cousin categories (cats) that contain all redirects, although they are not overt redirect categories (Rcats). For me any such work --diffusion from cats such as Mass murder victims, Murdered American children, 2007
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Hardly any country in Latin America will have a large population of Eastern Catholic that would be sufficiently large or notable enough to warrant the creation of a category to contain them. At most, they might have an article. It makes sense therefore, for the wider definition to be preserved that
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is similarly populated by many murder cases, as murder is unfortunately one of the most extreme (and therefore documented) cases of violences, alongside kidnapping and rape. If there are a disproportionate amount of those incidents listed, it is because there are a disproportionate amount of wiki
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in the US), all the way down to (at least nominally) independent activists. In a communist society, the CP filled all these roles and more. 10% of the population may look like a high figure with many hangers-on and card-carrying barflies and armchair politicians in our society -- not so when you
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You're using a new account, although you obviously are not new. If you were truly new, I'd chalk up your arguments to being a newbie, at least in part. Either way, I disagree with your rationale. I'm not repeating myself on this matter. I will go ahead and state that creating a "Violence against
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Party membership denoted (and no doubt still denotes in contemporary totalitarian states) a range of things about your ambitions, your willingness to collaborate with state agencies, your attitude to the political elite, the way your neighbo(u)rs treated you. On a number of other country's
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article and related categories that sufficiently cover violence against children. Something like "Incidents of violence against boys" (whether as an article or category) is not needed whatsoever. And no one here has demonstrated that it is needed. The arguments for "keep" amount to
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It's a matter of degree. In a modern capitalist society public political discourse and decision making is divided among many groups: the government, parliament, corporate (private industry) lobbies, non-corporate lobbies (e.g. religious), non-political lobbies (e.g.
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an interest in politics, but also involvement in party propaganda, having specific political history and leanings, and last but not least, social status. A weak analogy in a modern society would be securing attendance at a well-known university, or being
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to denote the sociocultural difference in the vulnerability of male children in exposure to violence. Many of the criticisms here either could also be applied to other (valid) categories. For arguments that say the category is too vague, the category
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be derived from the biographies. Is it because the party was discredited in later history? For example the communist party was clearly discredited after 1989, the fascist party in Spain was not so much discredited after 1975, should we
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to the Child abuse article. Child abuse is not just about familial child abuse. But when it comes to most violence against children? Yes, the perpetrator is usually one or both of the parents, some other family member, or a caregiver.
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can contain both Roman Catholic and Eastern Catholic articles. Else we would be creating room for the widespread creation of Eastern Catholic categories with single article entries which would not be helpful to navigation or tidiness.
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trait for Czechoslovak citizens. None of the people in this category are primarily known for their communist activities, and some of them were anti-communist dissidents. In the case of living people the category may violate
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Current parent categories are inconsistent about whether it should be part of the "Catholic" or "Roman Catholic" tree. Since all members are Roman Catholic, the better-developed "Roman Catholic" tree seems appropriate.
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So where do the prominent Czechoslovakian commies who aren't politicians go, such as generals, important bureaucrats, diplomats, or even celebrities? I'm also sure many of those 10% are no longer with us.
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politicians who belong in subcats per Peterkingiron, as well as those for whom no RS can be found to confirm their membership, as it has become a political slur after transition to multi-party democracy.
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tug-of-war among varied influences. In the communist society it was ensured through micro-management of all aspects of the society, and the CP consisted of people tasked with this micro-management.
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Unfortunately, I don't have a politology book handy to cite for this OR, but this is all fairly common knowledge for people old enough to have lived on the communist side of the Iron Curtain.
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Membership in it not only conveyed an interest in politics, but also involvement in party propaganda, having specific political history and leanings, and last but not least, social status.
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After checking more articles I tend to agree that there is little specific content about concert tours and that the topic of touring in general is too vague. Hence I change my vote to
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consider that you have to draw from this figure much of the bureaucracy in the government and the (would-be) private sector, as well as nearly all executive-level jobs.
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Then there are all other forms of influence someone allowed into this monopoly would wield. In essence, in our capitalist society we ensure fairness through the
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articles written about people murdered. As for the nominators' initial comments, it is, frankly, disrespectful and repugnant to refer to child abuse as "silly."
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per Peterkingiron. Politicians should be in "Communist Party of Czechoslovakia politicians" only. This category is for non-politician members of the KSČ.--
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another "about" category that doesn't tell us how much about the subject the song must be nor what reliable sources tell us it's at least this much.
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is noting that membership of the CP in that one-party communist state was defining. Other one-party states can be evaluated on their own merits. --
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I initially thought that the nomninator's concern about false light was not a strong argument. Based on the discussion, I now share the concern.
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They aren't notable for being members of the communist party, they're notable for being generals, important bureaucrats, diplomats, etc.—hence
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Party membership denoted/denotes any of a range of things - e.g. belief in the cause, belief that membership was necessary for career etc.
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totalitarian regime, which opens up the minefield of establishing when a regime is totalitarian 'enough' for this type of categorization.
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For much of the 20th century, this political party included 10% or more of the population and therefore it is questionable that it was a
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that suggests that party membership of the communist party is something extraordinary to him (i.e. different from his membership of the
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This information/list belongs in the main article with proper citations, not in this category to nowhere that doesn't aid navigation.
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No one is arguing that's too specific. It is broad to the point that an IP was adding this to BLPs. It has no focus. And where is
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For me this means the category has to be purged. If not enough songs about concert tours exist, the category may be deleted per
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no SYNTH whasoever is required to establish the fact that beinga CP member carried significant status in Czechoslovakia. --
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I propose that individuals' involvement in the Communist party should be discussed with appropriate nuance and where
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I feel that just "touring" is ambiguous and the category needs a qualifier of some kind to specify that it's about
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is a maintenance category, but I can't see what kind of maintenance would be needed for the nominated category.
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The songs seem being more about being on the road than about actual tours, and that topic can get pretty broad.
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
April 11
April 13
talk page
deletion review
Fayenatic
London
15:35, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Catholic cathedrals in Santiago, Chile
Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Santiago, Chile
Wikiacc
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21:41, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
WP:SMALLCAT
Marcocapelle
talk
07:15, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Laurel Lodged
talk
11:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Peterkingiron
talk
15:57, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikiacc
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16:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikiacc
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18:02, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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