385:'s, is truly one of the great character arcs in television history." There's more like that scattered around these books. The card representing G'Kar in the B5 collectable card game gets a multi-page treatment (interspersed with commentaries on the other ambassadors' cards) in Interacting with Babylon 5. Bottom line? If I had the time to improve the character article with the sources present, that would be a better use of my time than expounding on them here.
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593:. Few years ago when I was doing a B5 article pass for notabilty, I've started the analysis section. Granted, it is still bare-bones, but the source cited is reliable and is a two-page long book chapter treatment of the character, at an academic level (author is a professor, book is published by
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