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AFD to completely delete the other page, to emphasize that the SIA is to provide disambiguation and there is no room for any other disambiguation page. I was for having a short disambiguation page to cover the towns in my proposal, but I think now that keeping any separate disambiguation page at all confusing and opens the door to encourage disambiguation-focused editors to develop it into overlapping, poor status. The AFD closer did not understand: if the disambiguation is to be done on a non-SIA page, then the SIA page is not valid (it has no sources and is simply not a valid article topic; all the mountains are covered in geographically-organized list-articles (or they can be) and we don't generate duplicative slices and dices of same information for no reason). An SIA page that performs the disambiguation is a valid reason; I want to make the mountains SIAs work that for doing disambiguation, like the Ships SIAs do. And there are no damn duplicative disambiguation pages for the Ships SIAs. And that battle was fought between... let me call it an old guard of too-narrowly-focused disambiguation editors... vs. Ships editors and it was unpleasant I believe, and it was decided, and Ships won, which was good. The wp:SIA writeup was not revised to make sense back then, however, and does not reflect the decision properly, though. I have swung a bit back and forth in my understanding, actually; now I see that duplication is bad and the dab page cannot duplicate while once I said duplication wasn't the problem. Anyhow, I hope the SIA can be cleaned up to avoid confusing small issues, then expect to have a new AFD or RFC or the like to re-establish consensus. Maybe requires bringing in the Ships editors who fought with the old guard of disambiguation editors. --

728:: "Do not pipe the name of the links to the articles being listed" (but see exceptions). Which I see applying for SIA pages, at least or especially when there are redlinks and the usage of the page is partly to help determine what names for new articles should be. Maybe there is an offsetting principle that applies also and expresses why past mountain SIA usage has been to hide the peak names, although I don't see it myself. Do some think it looks more elegant, or that using pipelinks that way is required? Perhaps it is right to say that hiding is effectively required in usual circumstances where there is just one link to any Signal Peak and you would not show a disambiguating parenthetical as there's nothing to differentiate. But this is different, where differentiation is needed else readers don't know what to expect (do all the Signal Peak links go to one big, separate article covering them all, rather than going to separate pages for each one), and we are not bound to present the links the same way. Like I said about historic site lists, even when they are completely finished and all links are blue, I have became convinced it's best to show at least the differentiating part in names displayed (e.g. Brookfield vs. Bridgeport) while maybe not any non-differentiating part (Connecticut). I don't know if this is a style issue where large numbers of mountains SIAs have the hiding style and where editors will cleave to that for some reason, or if this is no big deal at all. -- 441:

page policy, that the full name SHOULD be displayed. I am not going to explain it right immediately, but i think the point is we want to see the difference on the page. It's not just for disambiguation pages, either, though it is subtle. I worked this out about lists of historic sites in a given area, and got to a consensus with the historic sites wikiproject. Say for a case where there were two "Cooper House"'s in one county list, which were to link to "Cooper House (Brookfield, Connecticut)" and "Cooper House (Bridgeport, Connecticut)". On the list-article page you don't want them to both show "Cooper House"... that looks like you are making a mistake and/or the reader will believe that both links will go to same place. You want to convey to reader that they will go to different places (accurately), so have to display "Cooper House (Brookfield)" and "Cooper House (Bridgeport)" or to display "Cooper House (Brookfield, Connecticut)" and "Cooper House (Bridgeport, Connecticut)". Let's talk this out more if necessary and not edit back and forth. It's a big point of difference that will apply to all the mountains SIA pages. I was realizing it was a big point that would need to be covered. This is one of those places where the devil is in the details.

526:: merging Canada and Mexico into table is good; dropping some GNIS-listed lesser items as non-notable is great, is a relief; I comment at Talk page about Mexican mountains snafu; overall it looks very much better. I saw you used some fixed percentages that constrain table column widths rather than allowing whatever is the default column-width-setting algorithm to run. The default may work better for some browsers, for some screen sizes, for some reader choices on how wide their window is open on their screen. I think but am not sure (worth checking) that there are no such constraints in huge system of tables of historic sites. I'm curious about that, anyhow. 288:

be continuing disagreement. An editor's "No." reply proves my point. Could you please comment there, and/or could we just proceed in editing to try to make the Signal Mountain SIA serve well from several points of view. That is, for it to be a better mountains list, and for it also to better deliver its disambiguating function (which in my mind I am equating to being an SIA serving a necessary role, as opposed to being a list-article unrelated to disambiguation, whose notability is very questionable). Maybe you prefer to do both concurrently...I will begin watching

31: 717:(?) but am happy to try that. Wp:ships examples need to be discussed and it would be natural to give notice there too. No rush. Do we have some stuff to sort out first, in terms of getting either/both of the K and S pages in good order and being agreed upon it? Or to discern a list of principles that have applied for dabs or elsewhere, that should apply to a SIA the same way, or modified. I am happy for those to come out naturally in new discussion though, if you want to open it. 812:. My method will be to first alphabetically go through each Jepson Manual entry and highlight "SNE", "W&I", and "C" (if it does not exclude SNE and W&I). Then I will go back and write the list from the entries with the highlights. I will then use these lists to pare things down and select from the list, to write narrative flora articles similar to 500:

P.S. The AFD closure was unhelpful given issues open and request that no overly simple closure be done. It is unsatisfactory. Note I redirected other page but was reverted by editor Bkonrad. I figure it's best to clean up the SIA so that it does serve disambiguation purpose well, and then open new

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But should we focus on modifying the Signal Mountains SIA first? As i commented today at the AFD, I would like for the Signal Mountain-related AFD to settle as much as it can, and am afraid of possibility that if we don't address the details by working out a good Signal Mountain SIA, then there will

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fixing a broken reference. Thanks for doing that, and especially for finding a replacement source for the information (which is, of course, the hard part). I just wanted to make sure you know that short of doing all that work, it's also fair to fix a broken link with a link to an archived version of

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search example. Calflora (& Jepson eflora) provides the latest Jepson Project approved bot. names in my experiences, but Calflora has very detailed verified collection locations by county for distribution info (via Interactive Distribution Map option on map), & links to other databases, that

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Now i see your edit. It may have been doing more, but one thing was that you were changing display to hide the full names of the intended articles, e.g. to diplay "Signal Mountain" rather than "Signal Mountain (County, State)". Please don't change those right now. It's a matter of disambiguation

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that says "An image should generally be placed in the most relevant article section; if this is not possible, try not to place an image "too early" i.e. far ahead of the point in the text discussing what the image illustrates, if this will puzzle the reader." The paragraph about the Mt. St. Helens

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With the semester starting, I don't really have any time to help work through these manually. Besides, pressing the save button a few thousand times would cause finger strain. I could, on the other hand, produce a bot task to do it for us. If you want me to take a stab at it, let me know. It would

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Yes, I am quite interested in articles about the eastern Sierra (as you may have guessed from my user name). One issue that has come up multiple times in Knowledge: there is no globally accepted division of ecoregions. This could affect your list article, because you are choosing to follow Jepsen,

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Likewise for names appearing on the linked OSM or Bing map. It is no help if all the places show as the same name; you want to be able to see which is the specific name of a given pinpoint on the map, and be able to consult the row in the table of that specific name. Right now the OSM map looks

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Thanks for your kind words --- I have been getting somewhat discouraged lately, because WP editors seem to be less cooperative and more focused on minutiae than they used to be. Many good editors have left WP or have decreased their activity levels. I'm glad that you've become an accomplished and

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Okay, no biggie for me. You'll get some strong disagreement from other editors on this (I know from personal experience!). Sure, images should be kept close to the text discussing what the image illustrates, but it seems they say not if it will span a section, or also, "sandwich" text between

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as one example that conveys more, and think that although it is not an SIA (it does not play any disambiguating-type role) there are aspects of it which could be adopted for the other mountains SIAs. I'd like to see your and others' examples of models to emulate, hopefully some with pics. The

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I would be glad to participate. My AFD nom and my comments at Talk page of the SIA will have previewed my views: a better standard that looks better visually, accomplishes more, etc. is possible; there's been evolution since 2007 for other tables of geographic places. I have referred to the

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Thank you very much for your constructive participation. You posed a good challenge back to me, that was great. I think there's a consensus more or less now, and that the discussion has been productive, both towards improving the SIA guidelines and towards improving some WikiProject Mountains

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To answer your question, I don't have Nevada-specific books on endemics. If you are going to describe the eastern slope of the Sierra, you may wish to consult "Sierra East" by Genny Smith, and the "Laws Field Guide" by John Muir Laws. I think you've already cited the former in the alpine flora

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Okay, you're right. I have participated in some very constructive AFDs where good decisions were worked out, but maybe in those the article-creators were long gone and there were not defensive parties; i see what you mean, thank you for saying that. I haven't participated or seen any policy

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Yes. Not everyone posts their regex at BRFA, but as a first-time bot operator (which I assume you would be), you probably will be asked to. You'll be approved for trial, at which point you can request AWB access for your bot account as a bot, which will "unlock" a new tab in AWB that allows

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Greetings to you, Hike395. I remember you well for your encouraging words when I first started editing. I hadn't noticed you here on Knowledge for a while until today when your name popped up on my watch list. I just want to let you know that I am pleased that you are still so active here.

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in general: "Redlinks help the wikipedia grow". Actually your decision-making process at Signal peaks SIA is a great example of non-dab features assisting in disambiguation purpose: you used existence of good peakbagger footnotes plus 100m prominence as criteria in which items to keep as

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In anecdotal spirit only, one definition of Eastern Sierra I've heard from some botanists over the decades is − from the Sierra Crest's rain shadow eastwards/southeastwards. In actual visual experiences, the Eastern Sierra seems to be one of those wonderful/messy ecotones merging Sierra

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Thank you Hike395, for seeing the big view on the wikimedia situation, and then also taking the time to share it at my commons talk page so clearly. It's a very constructive satellite view of the problems and opportunities, and extremely appreciated. Your insights/input is most helpful.

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is written about it. I hardly ever initiate an AFD, but it seemed to me to be the right way to draw attention into a process that leads to an actual decision. So although my AFD nomination may come across as strident, I would be all for working out some kind of creative solution.

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does use a non-dab feature: its redlink item is supported by a footnote reference; other references that would be useful in creating article for the redlink topic can accumulate there too. This is a role of an SIA page that serves development of Knowledge, akin to reasoning for

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covers all of Mono and Inyo Counties and northeastern Kern County, so includes the Eastern Sierra, Great Basin deserts, & Inyo/White Mountains habitats. People on its board may be helpful too, my local chapter's board is patiently so. The

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images, or "stack" the images. I've done a little tweak that you're welcome to undo if you don't like. I've set the vertical size to "upright=0.65" which eliminates the issue until ones browser width gets to over about 1200px.

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probably be a somewhat lengthy wait to get the bot approved, though; I have a bit of a "backlog" of tasks waiting to be submitted. I'm trying to avoid clogging up the BRFA process by limiting myself to two requests at a time. ~

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some months ago. I have indeed rellocated a batch of POTDs, about 75 spread over the months of April, May, June and July. You will recognise they all have an English and a Spanish caption. Thank you very much for your help!

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who roughly follows Kuchler (1977). This a division that hasn't yet made it into Knowledge: there are articles that use the EPA ecoregions, following Omernik (1987) (e.g., a very sketchy article about the

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Thumbnail images are not in the main article prose and they can be considered a template style. I've seen this done on other articles, in fact, using smaller fonts is for image captions is referred to

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auto-save. If you have any questions about filling out the BRFA or anything, let me know, happy to help. AWB is exclusion compliant by default, by the way, which is one of the questions for the BRFA. ~

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Or, the next public discussion should be about for combo AFD regarding "pure" Kennedy peak SIA (where no other disambiguation is needed) and nearly-pure but "mixed" Signal peak SIA (where mountains are

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field. It's a large amount of work, but I thought it was worth it to keep that parameter. I just did ~500 articles with AWB in 20 minutes, with 10,000 left to go, so it's about 7 hours of work left.

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is an SIA fully performing disambiguation of "USS Alliance" term but where no non-disambiguation features are used (there are no footnotes, no entries with multiple bluelinks). It serves a role at

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Thanks for notice at my Talk page, i was confused before when an edit of mine reported Edit conflict, i thought it was EC with myself in a different window or from having hit return twice.

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and two other uses may be served by hatnotes only) and perhaps other types of "mixed" SIAs where non-mountain usages are more commons. Hope you don't mind my thinking out loud here. --

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has several field parameter specifiers, such as plant community (e.g. Sagebrush Scrub, Pinyon-Juniper Woodland, Bristle-cone Pine Forest), County, CA native, etc. A result list for

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eruption is immediately to the right of the corresponding image. That image is as high as it can go without ahead of that paragraph (and without conflicting with the image of the

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I will reply more under the topic on my commons talk page in future, when have sufficient calmness and clarity about proceeding, but did not want to wait to thank you. Take care

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AfD is a very blunt instrument -- it's not designed to resolve policy discussions, but to consider whether individual articles should be deleted according to the guidelines at

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in order to notify them, and I click on your contributions and see that you just posted at the AFD. Sorry I didn't extend the notification courtesy sooner. This is regarding

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probably-notable. For disambiguation pages, paring off unlikely prospects as clutter is understood by disambiguation editors to be part of serving readers; that process is

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which is a section to allow for the reversal of this type of bold move, to discourage people gaming the system (not that I think there was any gaming in this case). --

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Hi, did post note at FloraWilde's talk page yesterday, under a "This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet - effective 15 July" banner. Perplexing. —

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article. For the Inyo-White mountains, you could try "Natural History of the White-Inyo Range" by Clarence Hall. The latter may be already covered by Jepson, however. —

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I know it's been a long time (by the calendar). I will try to chip away at it. I've asked for help, but no other interested editors seem to be able to run AWB. —

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I didn't realize that AWB could be used automatically under a bot account. You just set it up to run autonomously under windows, and let it run for N hours? At

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at an SIA allowing info accumulation. That's another aspect of SIAs to be covered in a new SIA guideline. Thanks for bringing that up at Talk page!

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Thank you both for working on the Eastern Sierra flora. Here are several other resources that have been helpful in my CA/Sierra flora explorations.

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tables have to allow a text column, for descriptions and other notes that interest readers or provide crucial disambiguating-type information, IMO.

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Can you point me in the direction of that? I wasn't aware of that function, and it may be a more efficient way to handle certain tasks. ~

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and see if we can come to a new consensus about the format and contents of Mountain SIA. Whatever the outcome of guideline discussions at

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What should be the contents of a mountain SIA: should they try to be inclusive, or list only peaks likely to be notable by themselves?

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to fix about 5,000 of the articles a few months ago, but then I got tired of the tedium and busy IRL, so I've left it half-finished.

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in mountain articles I come across. If I understood how to use AWB I would probably use it to get this merge done and over with.

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has links to specific plant lists for places in their area & mention others not uploaded yet, but perhaps available? The

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Thanks! I think the discussion was productive and we came to a simple conclusion (you're going to move the SIA back to

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Hey Hike, (hope you don't mind the informality), how did you merge Great Basin Shrub Steppe into Great Basin Desert?

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I hope I'm not intruding on a more private conversation or rambling too much, please let me know if am. Thanks,

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If you have access to AWB, or some other bot, and can convert the rest of the articles, I (and other

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Calflora Database (Sagebrush Scrub, Inyo County, Native to California, species names in plain text)

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There's no need to use regexes, by the way; AWB has got a template parameter renaming function.

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I can try to start the discussion, but again I'm super busy, so it may be tonight or tomorrow. —

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I see you've asked several editors the same question. I would suggest the following usage:

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Thanks for helping -- it's a gigantic task, much larger than I had originally foreseen. —

1217: 1111: 1017: 951: 773: 1328:. It was a technical close. This sort of move request does not need to be initiated see 942:, as the Chaparral/CA Deserts do in rain shadowed sides of Transverse/Peninsular Ranges. 927: 923: 725: 669: 573: 231: 210: 938:'ecoregion'/California Floristic Province & (one of the) Great Basin 'ecoregions'/ 863: 547:. The new dab definitely was created in good faith, in absence of decent guidance at 1997: 1958: 1893: 1865: 1674: 1598: 1511:

provides a complete breakdown by country, state, region, district, and city; whereas

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Later --- there's also the results of the Sierra Nevada Ecosystem Project study, see

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I'm glad that my advice wasn't too upsetting, then. Good luck figuring things out! —

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tool, and somehow must have missed the archived version of the Leonard reference. —

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Sorry I have been super busy IRL, not much time for WP. I'm still trying to fix

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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I have not been too active on here lately (been busy) but I have been changing

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Upon further thought, maybe the next public discussion should be an AFD about

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Thanks. I will use those sources and check out the references in them, too.

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pretty good i think. The Bing map is funny about updating or not. --

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stalled. Care to get rid of the Alaska page as we discussed? --

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I thought you might be interested that I will start working on

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field. I believe the latter is customary in all infoboxes bar

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to see how many remain; it'll be a while before it fills up.

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Category:Articles using Template:Infobox mountain with region

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Thanks for offering to help! The last step is to convert the

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The new point last night is addressed for dab pages within

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Possible to fix broken links with link to Internet archive

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Bristlecone Chapter of the California Native Plant Society

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List of flora of the east of the Sierra Nevada region‎

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Hi! Thanks for going over my last batch of edits to

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