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restrictions on what can be fed to cattle, there would be little to no risk for those slaughtered before 30 months. Since the cow feed is controlled, and the carcasses in question aren't being fed to other cows or humans, that risk is non-existent. Thirdly, saying that carcasses deemed "unfit for human consumption" would be used in animal feed gives the impression that carcasses that failed safety tests would be used. Instead, one of the new rules referred to cattle not tested for human consumption, not those which were tested and "deemed unfit".
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vCJD." Later, the Chosun Ilbo and other newspapers reported that the conversation was "mistranslated" and that the woman neither had CJD (or vCJD) nor had claimed to have gotten a disease from consuming U.S. beef products. (Although they have yet to make a formal retraction.) Further supporting claims of sensationalist journalism were recent revelations that the video footage shown on both SBS and KBS came not from
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Hi everyone. I have done a major copy edit. I've tried to address the concerns raised on this talk page. I have also tried, in good faith, to improve the references to well known reputable sources (even though the majority are still news enterprises). I noticed that many references were from "Hani",
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However, it is still true that every person so far infected with mad cow disease has MM genes and 94% (2-3 times higher thatn other ethnic groups) of
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On the one hand, starting a new section like this risks a POV tag, with only one side of the story. On the other hand, it's worth mentioning that there was misreporting happening, and that these often inflammatory or exaggerated claims likely fanned the flames of many of the protests. I'd love to
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The final sentence in particular is extremely misleading. First, the use of most mammalian tissue for ruminant (e.g. cow) consumption has been prohibited since 1997. This new law was referring to feed for other animals. Secondly, BSE takes 4-5 years to incubate, so even without the existing
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titles it "2008년 대한민국 미국산 쇠고기 수입 협상 논란". Maybe we should re-title this article something like "2008 Korean criticism of US beef import negociations". But this issue has been around since the initial mad cow scare in 1993, so a "2008" article would need some kind of "Background" section.
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