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This area was within the Barony of Clun, a powerful Norman stronghold in
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Once settled and rewarded for their part in the Norman invasion of 1066, it is recorded their family name was anglicised to de Jay. This then became the surname Jay as we know it today.
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after the Norman invasion. He was the son of Robert Fitz-Picot and his wife
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Historical records note that, just as in their Norman roots in Sai, France; the hamlet of Jay, in
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Isabella was the only surviving child of Helias de Say upon his death in 1165; Helias was the third lord of Clun.
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This occurred when
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The family descends from Picot Avenel de Say, a vassal of
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after the invasion. Robert was an important vassal of
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William de Say's descendants inherited the manor of
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