Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/Archive 13

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Citizendium and all Sanger's other projects, I can see the marketing logic in going for a more rightwing ethos as his way of differentiating from us. However re his comment "their notion of what is credible does, in fact, bias them against conservatism, traditional religiosity, and minority perspectives on science and medicine" we are biased towards academic sources, haven't we always been? Wasn't that part of our DNA even when Sanger was here? That means that our articles on religions are not written from the perspective of those religions; Our coverage of alternative health is not from the perspective of those who reject modern medicine, and I dread to think where he is going re minority opinions on science, but I suspect his new project could have very different articles on climate change, evolution and one wonders what else. One problem he is going to have is that once you move away from wikipedia's NPOV how do you limit that? Minority perspectives on science and Medicine from within academia are one thing, there are areas where serious scientists disagree, and Knowledge's articles can and should reflect that. Minority perspectives on science and medicine from outside academia would range from anti vaxxers and climate change deniers to flat Earthers and Moon Landing deniers. I will be interested to see where Sanger draws the line on that one, and how he does so without having his new site spiralling into fruitloopery - surely we all have some "minority perspective" that we wouldn't want to be associated with. As for those who take his charge seriously, yes Knowledge has imperfections, but are they as great as they were in the past?

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organised and trying to be inventive, well I might feel that you should get a reflection at least once. Plus to that is, when all that fighting was going on there and I was fool in the middle, I really really wanted you to get into your guidelines because they seemed in the right direction but not refined at all. Headbomb was trying to get into that with you. You need that. Goals and methods are like the written blood of any project on Knowledge, I believe. And even if you can't manage that or don't wish to, insults will not suffice the rain check. It's not my place and I don't read you enough to make demands but THE READERS() are not making ANY demands as you well know. You are like these mysterious beings who all live... Who all live where the Signpost is. In the old day, the first requirement of this job would not be a penchant for writing, but a penchant for reading the endless discussion and requests your readers would send to you. It's a bright new day. The world is on fire. Uh, oh.

7030:, I'd like to note that I am trans, and a longtime editor. The Signpost thread wasn't funny then, and isn't funny now. It was very problematic. But the community responded in a mature way, and took the material down. I think the contributors of the signpost learned a valuable lesson, and I can't imagine this would happen again. As a note: you ask why the folks involved weren't punished. Well, punishment isn't a thing here. We don't block people to punish them, we block folks to stop disruption. In this case, the disruption was stopped, and folks learned their lessons. I disliked that post a lot. But I also don't think it represents the majority of viewpoints here, and it was a wakeup call to many of us. If you want to help change Knowledge's culture, become a productive editor, edit LGBTQ topics, participate in policy discussions, especially around queer issues. But aggression isn't going to get you anywhere. If you want change, you have to help make it happen. 6306:, even though those pictures are centuries old pictures by muslims. Even if we narrowed "Traditional religiosity" to Christianity as per Judgesurreal, there are huge differences among Christians. Even sayings like "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek", "blessed are the peacemakers" and "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the gates of heaven" that Christianity attributes to Jesus Christ are not at the heart of some forms of Christianity. I get that many religious people would want Knowledge to cover their religion from that religion's perspective, but would they be so comfortable extending that favour to other religions? Knowledge is a General Interest Encyclopaedia, that means we write for a general audience, but we are writing an encyclopaedia, and that means we write what is verifiable in reliable sources, not what is popularly believed. 2685:

century and before. The theme of the day was humour. I found there was a loophole in old radio shows in the USA, that ones before a point in the sixties or seventies were branded public domain because they were aired without a recording and without an identifier. Wow I'm gonna do me up some Old Signpost Radio Shows or something. Carlins gonna be famous again (I love that stuff and it would really suit WP). Alas... find me one... Okay, find me ten, for every month, suitable for this purpose. Seemed like no. So if Headbomb is actually managing to come up with something new and relevant, I am saying from a sort of experience, do not give him a hard time.

4486:. In the context of the rest of the discussion, it looked more like it was saying that the "classical notion" of an encyclopedia needed to be discard (indeed as Knowledge has done since its inceptions due to it unique scope and method of creation). The focus of discussion seems to have been that people have erroneously interpreted the "classical notion of an encyclopedia and universal knowledge" to encompass a biased subset of topics, which is pretty well-documented at this point. Knowledge has clearly already moved far beyond the scope scope of classical encyclopedias, but still has systemic biases (in each language version) on a variety of topics. 4376:. Combine this with the fact that certain previous proposals hidden away in obscure corners of meta and never commented on ended up turning into giant shitstorms when they were implemented and it suddenly becomes a reasonable course of action to publicize and vigorously oppose all such proposals, and to ignore the well-meaning voices calling for us to ignore the proposals. If the WMF doesn't want us to take such proposals seriously, they should either have someone review them for sanity before publication or publish them with a disclaimer. -- 6790:, I read every word of what you wrote before I responded. You found a project page (not an article) that had been written by one person and edited for internal publication to insider WP nerds by a very small group of editors. When that page was published, Knowledge responded vigorously to object to its content as unrepresentative of the consensus views and attitudes here at Knowledge. If you are making claims that Knowledge and the Wikimedia Foundation are transphobic, you're going to need to pick a better example. 6273:

driving, Obama’s presidencies many scandals (as all presidencies have) are not even mentioned and it’s a Featured Article. And on climate change, anything that goes against consensus is treated as witchcraft, not even to be considered. Knowledge needs to realize that to the general public, as this is supposed to be a general purpose encyclopedia, mainstream right wing, Christian, and new climate change research is not the same as holocaust deniers and flat earthers, and should get equal treatment in articles.

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climate change debate that is going on all over the world. How much will it change? How quickly? How much is mankind contributing? But you would never know there was any alternate hypothesis or science going on here! And if you do deny what others have declared “The Truth”, your a “denier”, like any religious fundamentalist would do. And that’s not science. And it’s just one of many examples of how Knowledge has been overrun by people so ideological they don’t even realize their are biased.

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produce one. Headbomb is trying to educate people in an appropriate place. He got upside downed in the ice 2x. That hurts. And now it insults. I'd have been interested in the column. What I am sorry for is I haven't found the encouragement. My intention is to encourage the column. My option is to reply to insults. What I am sorry for is, my eyes came off the prize. I am cynical about a result. That's not facilitative. For this much I apologise, genuinely.

4089: 8305:, a study that has just started. As one of the most relevant communications channel of our movement, we want to know your opinion about how could the Foundation best support you. We are also interested in hearing your thoughts about how could the Foundation best communicate with projects and affiliates, and what role you wish The Signpost would play in this process. Any other thoughts are welcome too, of course. 395:

than otherwise. But there's an alternative scenario here: the outrage is what drove the viewcount up, and caused the MFD and all the mess, and would have happened anyway. In all scenarios, the root cause is having published a piece so outrageous that it exploded all over Knowledge because the Signpost needed to hear that punching down on marginalized communities, many of whom edit with us, is not acceptable.

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experienced "regular writers" - IMHO that's exactly backwards). It's also really outdated in some parts, e.g. it recommends the IRC channel as a primary means of coordinating among the team. I wish it was - I created it myself about a decade ago, and it worked for a while, but now it has been inactive for several years, with me being mostly the only human still present in the channel. Regards,

4142: 1393: 952: 4346:), and it seems the claim "WMF staff says Knowledge is no longer an encyclopedia" is false; it came from a diversity working group, and they did not use those words. Jimbo Wales said that idea was "just wrong" and it's going nowhere. It seems like it's just a poorly articulated comment someone made in a meeting that got recorded in minutes. There's no story here. -- 6799:, where I asked a question about gender pronouns and was given (one unhelpful and) multiple helpful, nuanced responses. I understand that you are upset about the essay, and I know that Knowledge needs help with expanding its recommendations about writing about gender. There is some helpful (but incomplete!), neutral, consensus guidance about changed names at 3656:

pointing upward. Now, I don't know if that's the intention of this symbol by the creator and loading up the lists of mobile symbols and their meanings on WP sort of fails on my comp (those lists are actually the largest articles on WP recently so understandable). Hope that doesn't put you off using it for whatever you were using it for if it fits!

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ever brought alternate functionality back that could do this). Anyway, some kind of ping or attention mechanism could be worked out; there should be various possibilities. Make it so anyone can be an Editor and have control of his own personal little letter and reference/transclude others he likes until it becomes a community newsletter.

6039:, those are articles from our project, three B level articles I can see. But we will have accomplished all the things I listed above, and it has been seven years since our project was last highlighted, and in light of our tremendous accomplishments, it seems fitting that a profile/interview piece be done on the project, don’t you think? 2573:+1 to asshollery. You can move all your life and be jerked around. Sharks smell blood in the water. Crocodiles don't eat for six months at a time, and they are extremely careful about being seen. SchreiberBike has basically said "Good riddance to anyone who admits they've failed!" and claimed their input is design to bolster another 5860:- that magic variable shows the version as of whenever the page is loaded, not the version at the time of writing, and should have been substituted. Not sure how widely its used currently for tech reports, but at some point it would be a project to go back and fix the historical uses to reflect the version intended at the time. -- 8448:. A writeup can just be a one-sentence summary quoting the headline and publication. Or one can dial it up by including a fuller summary, compiling the most interesting bits from several different news article about the same topic, researching additional context from e.g. article revision histories and discussion pages etc, 4061:, I didn't mean a dialect fork. I meant a regional/cultural fork. Already due to sheer numbers that the traditional angloshphere cannot compete with, cultural dichotomies between out contributors are beginning to make themselves felt. Obviously as a European, living these past 20 years in Asia, and a 40-year career in 2738:? This needs a tripartite technical reviews over weeks, and cutoff dates and what have you before being approved. There's nothing to approve. It's live. It works. No script makes use of the page. But because the regulars didn't think of it, it's was of course, deemed a bad idea that needed to be vetted by the regulars. 4343: 3360:

about a well presented Tips and Tricks section? No. Is it going to break whatever bit of coolness and interest youse have going on here? Doubtful... Come on you still didn't hash it out. Let the page fly. It doesn't have to be a regular edition. It will collect in the archives. It's actually a good idea.

6138:"even as journalists turn to opinion and activism, Knowledge now touts controversial points of view on politics, religion, and science" -- so if we're going to balance opinionated sources, we can start with his and just say that Sanger is acting like a Trumper (if it's not a simple case of sour grapes). 3830: 6863:

Apparently, we do not share your values. The piece was published because the handful of people that looked at it did not have a problem with it. We come from a society that lets others say things whether or not we like what's being said. We don't enforce a neo-fascist speech code. There was never any

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I don't... I don't know where to even begin with this. I don't care if this was published internally or externally, it was still published, with no repercussions. I read the thread, nothing about that response was "vigorous". If it is unrepresentative of WP, it should have been nuked. Drag queens are

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Although I understand the worries about reimbursement for working group's food and flight expenses, I think it would have been far more exclusionary for only people who can afford such things to have been able to contribute. I think that people in the working groups are acting in good faith in trying

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I don't use mobile so I don't know if that icon is standard in the mobile world or if the download-vs-display distinction makes sense. It's definitely not standard in the Knowledge for links to wiki content to have icons at all. If it's wanted for mobile, there might be a CSS way to limit the display

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I have a great admiration for Doc James; I enthusiastically voted him back onto the Board after he was kicked out for revealing WMF shenanigans. Lines are being drawn and either he's with Jimbo, Katherine, and the WMF or he's with the editors. I think it would mean a lot for him to give up his mop in

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Ok I'm a bit lost here. I thought the Signpost was for (internal) news by Wikipedian for Wikipedians in particular to inform people not following various other prject sites (or even being aware of them). Waiting for secondary coverage sounds more like a Wikinews approach. That aside external news are

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I just want to thank Wikipedians on the Science desk for their immense aid they gave me regarding mental health (without giving medical advice of course), and I want to thank Knowledge for being such an open-minded place. Apart from that I'd suggest Knowledge prints a year bulletin! would be awesome!

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Actually, science is very much a popularity contest. It deliberately makes going against the mainstream opinion VERY VERY HARD, so that, should you push an idea that the mainstream doesn't accept, you must provide a mountain of evidence to support it, and have it survive peer review again and again,

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perspective, and it’s so dominant and pervasive in places like this that you don’t even realize there is a climate change debate at all, there’s just “The Truth” and “Truth Deniers” like it’s a religion. There are no new discoveries or policy developments from flat earthers, but there is certainly a

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Signpost is news about Knowledge, written by and mainly for Knowledge editors. It would make no sense on any website other than Knowledge. ITN lists notable topics which have received news coverage in the media. Apart from the handy wikilinks, it could easily form the front page of a general news

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my time, but while I'm not pointing the finger at anyone in particular (most of the shit stirring came from known detractors of the magazine), it seems logical that fewer and fewer people are inclined to contribute to it (also a bit like RfA candidates in a way) for fear of reprisal, at least until

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I've noticed it takes a couple of days sometimes - but I only get a summary of one of those mailing lists. I do remember the March (?) issue was seemingly left off on purpose and asked at WMF Comms and they put it on, so I'll try that (but they may be gone for the weekend). I can't think of anything

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I know this word from my working trips to India, but normal numbers are also used. What needs to be decided is: Should the en.Wiki be written in international English that everyone understands, or should it be accepted that by sheer numbers, the en.Wiki is now practically the South Asia Knowledge in

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above. I think it's supposed to convey "X size if downloaded" ... in previous issues it was effectively disabled by commenting out a template parameter, but for technical reasons we manually published this one and left the parameter in. If other people think it's distracting, I'l go back and comment

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with subcats for each month of each year, in one of which the user places a completed edition; a template/module might then parse the contents to find newsletters within a certain time delay (or maybe you'd have to do it manually; they crippled Lua a looong time ago and I never looked to see if they

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Any sort of "Streisand effect" is really immaterial to anything here, and you're also conflating correlation with causation. You argue, without evidence, or much internal logic, that the MFD and the mess is what caused outrage/drove the view count up, therefore leading to more damage/negative impact

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Finally, I do not care about the vote to delete it. As I said, you have fostered an environment of transphobia. Of course it isn't gonna get deleted if you take a vote, the people here are biased whether they admit it or not. It should never have been published, and that alone should be enough of a

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Please everyone, we are in dark times. I know fuses are exceedingly short right now. I respect everyone involved in this conversation. I like Headbomb's idea. I know that the Signpost is a massive amount of work and appreciate everyone who puts in the efforts to get it done. I also know everyone on

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racism). Someone was unceremonious with an editor. The editor complained. They got an inventive insult for their trouble. When Bike says about paraphrasing, what they are saying is, look how cleverly I insulted you. It sat here for nearly two weeks now. If you want a better response to your issues,

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What I mean by this is that it's possible to print out the Single Page Edition via the "Print this page" button, but the formatting becomes in disarray and it doesn't come out very cleanly. My suggestion is that there is an option to download a printer-friendly version of the Signpost and print it

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in a more deliberate way in the past but got overextended and just failed. If someone here is willing to put forth the effort, I'll be happy to be included in the publication's workflow. And again, there's no reason this has to be personality-based: anyone could do this but I am just a little more

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In case we're not: Jonesey didn't say that drag queens = transgendered people, they used that as an example about gendered language. Consensus can change, and you could try to gain consensus for deleting a Signpost article from over a year ago without ascribing motives to other people. But I think

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How do we differentiate between Flat Earthers and climate change deniers? I'm in the UK, so where I am "mainstream right wing" is not the same as in the USA or Saudi Arabia. "Traditional religiosity" also varies a lot around the world. We do get problems with religious conservatives who resent our

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Has no Stubs, no Lists, no Starts, and a majority of our articles are now Good Articles and Featured Articles and Featured Lists. I don’t know of any other wiki project that has ever accomplished this. This could definitely be a good profile and a “good news” feature. Not all is dark on Knowledge,

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Go on let Headbomb do it. Let them fail. Let them succeed. Watch it happen. Learn. It's not going to break the sandbox this time it couldn't. I bet there wasn't a cross word before this. You didn't actually fault the work or the idea as far as I have seen. Can you really foresee a single complaint

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taking over after our last EiC was unfairly run out by a reactionary crowd. Because this publication only occurs thanks to volunteer effort, we can't have drive-by good-idea mongers overruling our current leadership. BTW, please resign your bit as every other mop-swinger is doing. It's a political

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and fix accessibility issues. The page I linked also has a countdown clock which shows the writing deadline day and expected publication date. Generally, everything should be ready to do accessibility checks on when the writing clock is at 0 and the publishing clock is at 1, unless it's by me, in

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shall not be "educated" or threatened by partisans who, feeling froggy, think their moment has come; it has not. I am a sorry for any offense you took from the piece; there was no malice, I assure you. It was an inelegant mistake. If I recall correctly, the editor-in-chief involved was forced out

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Science is not a popularity contest, it wouldn’t be any less true or false if 100% stated their opinions either way. And this is another example of how the science is not discussed or respected, it’s a kind of oppressive groupthink. You disagree? You’re not a person with another opinion, you’re a

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Wow, I don’t like Sanger, but saying abortion isn’t one of the safest medical procedures makes him a “Trumper”? Or decrying the hagiography of Barack Obama, which mentions none of his scandals, which isn’t NPOV. Unfortunately, Sanger is right, and it’s embarrassing how much Knowledge doesn’t even

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Nah. We just wait until they rename themselves Knowledge instead of Wikimedia is an attempt to get more donations, then they buy new letterheads and redo all of the domain names, then multiple admins and maybe a few board and arbcom members resign in protest over them making money off of our good

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OK. Regarding creating a new video for the 6 million article milestone, unfortunately unless someone offers me a large stack of cash, that's not going to happen. I believe that the 5 million article milestone video took me about 80 hours of work. Now that I have more experience and better tools I

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In the old day of paperwork in an office, part of a stereotyping of an office, often for humour but also for symbols like this, there would be a two plastic trays. One would be for paperwork in, which is symbolised by the above symbol, and the other would be paperwork out, symbolised by the arrow

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Chris, I'm really not personally involved in this particular discussion, but I don't think it is at all appropriate to tell someone to resign so casually. I have been noticing that kind of thing lately, and while I hesitate to put a label on it, it usually looks like bullying to me. If you really

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I was not explaining that, because this is with the regulars here. You already know and operate in the knowledge it is not easy to come up with material. I've got nothing but love for youse, but if you are going to be calling each other jerks and stuff over the really simple stuff, over not being

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It eats me up. I'd love to write stuff for the Signpost. I think the things I am interested in are interesting. But when this came up a couple month ago I said to myself, what is the most relevant thing they lack that you'd like to read up on your self. I reckoned public domain releases from last

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from drafts before publication. If this can't be automated, there's a safety check in there to make sure that the draft helper only display in the drafts. (At least I think I put that in. If not I'll add it soon.) But it's stray code that can be removed from published version. It's easy to remove

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You absolutely cannot ask trans people to fix your transphobic environment, and it's insulting you would even ask that. What you need to do (and what you are currently refusing to do) is invite trans people to talk about why they dislike Knowledge, and then create an environment where we are not

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Also, apologies for not being more "well-spoken". I have no energy and I just can't bring myself to care anymore. I've only been paying attention here for about a week and it's clear the transphobia issue here is terrible. Y'all claim you want a more diverse editing population, but do nothing to

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Why were there no punishments for the editors who published it, or the editor of The Signpost who allowed it? Surely it constitutes a personal attack on every single trans editor here. If I were to go onto any cis person's page here and start talking about how I hate cis people and think they're

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It's as dumb as the claim the WMF made at Wikimania in Haifa that every established user began their Wiki career as a vandal. There really are some stupid people employed by the Foundation, and those work groups, BTW, also get free food, flights, and fancy accommodation. 17:32, 18 September 2019

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gets my vote. It always amazes me how many Knowledge readers and editors do not appear to have access to the internet and its vast resources. Anyway, if you think it should be on that list then either be bold and add it yourself, or propose it on the article talk page. I wouldn't regard cords as

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I reject that there is an US vs THEM situation. Seriously, this sounds like the Queen of Hearts yelling, "Off with their heads!" every time a character disagreed with her. The epitome of reactionary rhetoric. Quit if you want to but now is no time to tell others what they should be doing. It's a

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it has been clear that the Signpost is being subjected to Knowledge-space regulations anyway, so having its own editorial mechanism is starting to look redundant. Which leaves their main asset as eyeballs: they have a license to spam a lot of users. The question comes up then, can we develop a

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Every time someone steps up and try to help, the Signpost shits on them and tell them they are unwelcomed. This was true of the past leadership, and sadly remains true under Smallbones. Good luck to those that still believe in the Signpost. I hope those that keep writing will have an easier time

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I just wanted to make you aware of this, since I believe it is you that actually publishes each issue. I'll check that the watchlist request was made properly once I see the issue sent out, but just so you know starting this month we are attempting to automate requesting watchlist notifications.

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I mean everyone was “interim” but the core team was sort of consistent. There was you and Bri on the editorial team (Bri also did arb report), Evad was editor emeritus/tech report, I was editor/discussion report, Chris was publication manager, Barbara was humor, (checks notes) Acorri was traffic

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The problem I see is the attempts to lump together wackos who are anti-vaccination and moon landing deniers with people who are of a right with perspective in general, so trumps article gets filled with hate, Obama’s with love, and they claim it’s “balanced”. GW Bushs article mentions his drunk

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I think this has already been fixed. There is a different Linter issue with unclosed tags in new and old issues of the Signpost, but unfortunately, when I tried to fix it in the new issues, it broke old issues, or vice versa, I don't remember. It requires more investigation and a template fork,

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I don't see this as being enough of an issue to fork, but if there was going to be a dialect fork from English Knowledge to say the "Indian English Knowledge", I'd suspect all articles would need to be forked to best present to Indian English readers and that the content of the article wouldn't

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Now, we've got Smallbones at EiC, Chris still PM, I'm still on discussion report (though Headbomb stole half of it this month, no hard feelings, I’ll just need to write it faster; also funny to see that this’ll be my 12 issue and yet I’ve been here the longest out of almost anybody), then Evad,

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You appear to believe that "A WMF Proposal" and "A proposal from the WMF" are the same thing. That's not how I read it. I think that "A proposal from the WMF" is something that the WMF proposes and is publishing so it can be discussed, whereas "A WMF Proposal" is is something that someone else

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For what it is worth, I read the report before it was deleted due WP:BLP concerns and imho the deletion was a bad idea as I noticed no obvious WP:BLP issue requiring that. The deletion however increases the intransparaency of the whole affair and blocks other editors/readers from developing an

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There's an argument to include it for small pages too, given that this lets users/mobile users know that this is indeed a small page (and this lets us avoid the debate about what exactly is 'small'). I'm all for adding it to other ways of accessing the Signpost (e.g. on delivery pages) if it's

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Sanger is promoting his latest attempt to compete with wikipedia, and one should assume that when and if it starts it will try to differentiate itself from Knowledge on the issue of neutrality and where it lies. Given the surprisingly long duration of Conservapedia, which I think has outlived

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And if you want to just go with smaller and fewer images, that's ok with me. Let's just keep it simple. If it's something that might conceivably delay publication by 30 minutes while somebody figures out what went wrong, I wouldn't want that. That would mean that I have no clue how to fix it!

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Bri, I think that page could use some overhaul before recommending it to people. For starters, submitting entire stand-alone stories or opinion pieces doesn't seem to be the ideal newbie task, compared to contributing smaller items to ITM or N&N (which that page seems to reserve for more

4325: 8312:(an invitation that we are extending to all volunteers in our movement), we could organize a meeting specifically for The Signpost, we could discuss in the Meta talk page or here... Whatever works better to ensure that the views of The Signpost's contributors are well captured in the study. 4443:

says things like "These Working Groups are at the center of this process; they are the agents of change." and "April-June 2020: Movement endorsement: Endorsement of recommendations; commitment for the implementation. April-June 2020: Process evaluation. May-June 2020: Core team handover and

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That who shall not be named here on Knowledge has written an interesting, actually fairly neutral story on how wikipedia has systematically pushed away right-leaning media sources. If any established editor dares to put their weight on this sore thumb and risk attracting the attention of

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Well I see that the Sanger piece will be sent down the memory hole, and I am not going to keep preaching to deaf ears. Everyone in leadership at the Foundation is already a part of the Progressive Movement, and that won’t change either. I will end with this one thought: you can either be

7123:, Having multiple threads is a problem, yes. But having zero threads is not a solution either. You removed all the threads, and thus the conversation was erased. Now it exists here, so that all conversation on the topic is centralized. Nothing further needs be done regarding threading. 7898:

In previous years I linked from Simple to CZ articles that were written competently a long time ago on topics that wouldn't go out of date. Not any more; like others I gave up hope. Could there be a home for the soon to be orphaned content on Wikisource, or cheaper hosting on Fandom?

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As always, thanks for your work in making a readable and generally good-looking publication; I know that takes a lot of effort. Unfortunately, I have seen some unacceptable practices when it comes to accessibility here and I hope that I can provide some constructive feedback. To use

7142:: For someone who claims to be knowledgeable and concerned about gender issues, you sure are casual about referring to people whose gender you do not know as "man", "guy", and "dude". I will let your other comments above, in response to good faith engagement, speak for themselves. – 8203:

I don't get it delivered myself but I did notice that some other user talk pages I watch had the message delivered twice. On the only one I really looked into, the first message had been deleted before the second was sent. I don't know if that might have anything to do with it.

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So, what constitutes "grossly offensive"? To me, the people I have sent screenshots to, and every autistic person I've talked to, using a person's autism to patronize, dehumanize, and remove agency (whether or not the intent behind it is pure) is grossly offensive.

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think someone should resign, contact them privately first. If you don't, and you just want to be shocking/rude, please reconsider your words. If you volunteer to edit Knowledge, and even more so if you volunteer with the Signpost, you should know that words matter.

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If, as you claim, this is just a random proposal that is essentially the same as a proposal you or I can create, please tell me how I can create a working group and have my working group's proposal published along with this one. Then explain why the description at

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Sorry for the ping, but I know if I don't ping anyone, this will never get answered. I chose ANI because this was a question for all the admins here, not for singpost discussion. Would you be able to answer my questions or point me to someone I can ping who will?

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If you move some place and find that all the neighbors are jerks, you may have been unlucky. If you move again and find the same, you may have been unlucky again. If you keep doing this, and the same thing happens, it's possible that the neighbors are not the

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Let me tell you something about publications which stand the true tests of time. A column or a series is not forever. It's not even necessarily for a set time. It's either worth reading or it isn't. It goes on for as long as there is relevant information and

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For the curious: The link goes to a Breitbart article about en.WP's consensus decisions to deem The Daily Mail and similar publications as unreliable sources. Its byline says that it was written by a now-banned en.WP editor called "The Devil's Advocate". –

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Okay. After the next release, if everything works according to plan, I'll send you a version that automates the newsroom cleanup. Until then, you should probably remove me from the list of approved users - I don't have the rights, nor the community support

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Headbomb, Danny, Matt, Rasberry, and Dlthewave are in there somewhere??? (Apologies for putting anyone on the spot, this is as best I can figure it out right now, I probably got something wrong.) My head is spinning. This is more confusing than Brexit. —

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to vote to stop being racist? I don't think being upset at transphobia is at all uncalled form. I don't believe I'm to blame that people are being transphobic here with no repercussions. If I told you you were subhuman scum, I'd get a block at the very

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Unless you are tied to a chair with your head in a clamp, your eyes taped open, a self-refreshing Knowledge feed on a monitor, and the Knowledge Song blaring into your ears, nobody is forcing you to read and respond to Knowledge Signpost articles, and

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could be a welcoming environment open to bold ideas, but under the leadership of Smallbones, it sadly is little but a wall-garden, managed like a piece of critical software that would usher a global financial collapse if anything new is done with it.

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I’m the one who kicked off the mass message notification as part of the publication process, but I don’t know why it got sent twice. Could it have happened if I accidentally revisited or reopened the browser tab where bot configuration was filled? ☆

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Correct, because they were being used as an example of not being transphobic. I don't give a shit anymore. You want trans editors? Tell people to stop treating us like shit and silencing us when we complain. Just blank all my contributions already.

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Knowledge clearly has a problem with transphobia, and nothing is being done about it. Why? Is everything okay if I call it "comedy"? Hurt is hurt, abuse is abuse. It doesn't matter if you find it funny, being a shithead is still being a shithead.

7780:(I had nothing to do with the reportage here) and in the ensuing few months, the conversation has escalated. It's probably too late for press time but I figured I'd update that the community there has a serious proposal to wind down the project: 6724:

3nk1namshub, you asked a question ("Why was it blanked, but not nuked?"), you got an answer, and you responded with a totally uncalled for snarky comment. You give the appearance of being someone who is trying to pick a fight about your favorite

7695:, I could but there is no way that I can keep up with the flood of edits that goes into making these. The best I can do is a once-over a few days before publication. This has to be more of a pull than a push on my part. I've tried to work with 6350:

Really? Climate change? We should reject the views of 97% of climate scientists in favour of "neutrality"? Knowledge sticks to the science. The reason science has a left wing bias is because to be right wing these days you have to reject it.

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the current active newsletters, with each newsletter having a paragraph or two synopsis to be transcluded into an article (with links out to the full newsletters). could also be easily automated so that workload is minimal (suggestion at

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separate? Isn't the Signpost being pipped for a popularity competition it can't compete with? Yes, it most certainly is. In fact, WPITN is robbing you of your readership, to a wall of complaints that something is missing from it, there.

5004:. It can also help fix them, though that is a little more complicated as they're on transcluded subpages. I'd do this myself but I'm not sure whether I should be tinkering with the published text at this late stage. Hope that helps, 3254:". In fact diminishing other people's contributions and belittling them, and calling for other people to leave/quit/resign Knowledge/aspects of Knowledge when they don't defer to your judgment and preferences is habit of yours. This is 6577:

What is Knowledge (and the Wikimedia Foundation) doing to challenge the environment they created, that clearly encourages and condones transphobia? An environment where "don't treat trans people like subhumans" is seen as censorship?

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Should we just try to keep page sizes smaller instead? This would mean that featured content would probably have to only show images for FPs (at a smaller size), and maybe one or two images for each of the articles, lists, and topics

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I'm not part of that, its all Evad's code. Once they get it working with the new newsroom, I'll look into helping clean up the newsroom automatically, but that should probably wait a release or two to ensure that your redesign works.

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because of this, so you cannot claim there were no consequences. I find your demands unreasonable and I insist you cease before you discover what liberty comes packaged with journalism. Maybe you should read other websites, instead.

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proposal was posted to meta specifically so it could be reviewed and commented on by the rest of the community rather than acted on unilaterally. If you want to throw stones, throw them at the people who created the recommendation.

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propagandists for the progressive movement, or be an Encyclopedia, you cannot be both. And if you look at the Big American States, the Boy Scouts, and the NFL, you would know that everything this movement touches dies with it.

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Not sure whether or what I'm confused about. You seem to ask a question which I tried to answer ("report vanished What's going on?"). I thought the section below (posting by Mjroots) somewhat answers your question or does it

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Apologies if I caused any confusion. The page that was broken and is now fixed was a subpage of this page. The remaining Linter errors exist in The Signpost itself, but are not a big deal. We'll figure it out someday. –

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If you want to add the page size for the larger pages, e.g. Featured articles, go ahead but it looks more complicated with all the access pages. Perhaps just on the main Signpost page if it's not too easy for the other

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could create another video in less time, but I don't have a free 40 to 60 hours to give away this month. So, I appreciate the thought, but I'm not going to create another video for the 6 million article milestone. --

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As a reader, I'd have liked this information--it would encourage me to do things more efficient than fixing them manually. It does seem a little long for the usual column, but it probably but be abbreviated slightly.

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I thought the column is a good idea. Headbombs work on it seems to have been deleted by Smallbones in an arbitrary manner intended to double up as the message explaining the action. Such manner can spark aggression.

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The pageviews tool says over 10% of the traffic to the web page is from mobile, so this should be considered significant. It's unfortunate that a rendering error could make the reader question the content itself. ☆

117:, That one seems to make more sense. Signatures, sig... wait a minute... say that again, signature... sig... sig,n... siggin? Siggin! That's it. WP:SIGN. That's right. Barmy. Well, I should bleeding cocoa too then, 8346: 6924:

I believe that we are being trolled by an anti-LGBT activist playing a role in order to discredit supporters of equality. I can't think of another reasonable explanation for the disruptive behavior we are seeing.

7428:. I genuinely liked the monochrome gradient that it made but that was far too little contrast. I'm not an expert and I make errors myself, but I really try to prioritize accessibility in my edits. I propose that 7160:. But either way, apparently transphobia is not seen as an issue here. IDGAF, right? Now, which good faith engagements are you talking about, the one that wished harm on me, or the one that called me a fascist? 6634: 3960:

As described in the article, Encyclopædia Britannica is a dimensioned quantity of a number of characters. (I haven't looked closely enough at the article to comment on any other possibly dimensionless numbers.)

227: 4939:, think of the new columns I introduced during my tenure as E-in-C. None of them were controversial, but they took time, effort, and enthusiam to write and/or research. Most of the contentious talk surrounding 2289:, the layout on the archive subpage is broken. Namely, "*deleted" comment is in the middle of second column rather than near the red link it was intended for. Not sure what would be a good way to resolve this. 918: 5188:

You exemplify my point. This is not another site. We have an agenda here. Signpost reports that agenda. There should be a link below ITN, promoting what this site stands for, and c'est la vie to all the rest.

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If you would like me to educate you, my rate is $ 20/hour and I will gladly send you my cashapp. Otherwise, you can listen to the trans people who have criticized your environment for almost two decades now.

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my allegiances are to our mission. My position is that we will best succeed at achieving that mission by working together as equals. And I will do whatever is in my ability to help us get to that position.

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that's what I meant - I can rewrite my script to always add to that specific page, and you can copy it. My suggestion wasn't the importation, but rather automating the request for a watchlist notification.

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I have no issue with that. I'm just saying whether the red link is visible or not doesn't seem to cause WP:BLP issues in either case. What might cause WP:BLP issues would be recreatimg the deleted page.--

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I guess you meant the suggestion section? I didn't see that before, I probably should have posted there rather than here (I'm not regular signpost reader), however I did not see an actual article in the

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If the icon is confusing, it'd be simpler to just suppress the icon, or replace it with something else. It could be that "~0.4 MB" is clear enough alone, but I felt "~0.4 MB 📥︎" was clearer on mobile.

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for "Recent research". (I will update this in a few weeks with new items for the December issue; you will see various items tagged with e.g. or , these are earmarked for upcoming special issues - see

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Individuals seeking a negative social reward may still engage in trolling. But if they don’t receive that negative social reward, then their motivation to engage in this behaviour will likely diminish.

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I tried to look into it an issue or two ago, but because the components of the Signpost are sliced and diced in different ways for its different formats, the task of testing was too daunting for me.

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thank you so much for this. It took me awhile to figure it out. If it was just one line taller and said "Scroll down" it would be easier to figure out. But that's just a quibble. Thanks again.

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a disclaimer about editor transition/turnover. Would it make sense to include a masthead or "official" list of editors within each issue, to eliminate any confusion over who oversaw publication? –

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I'ld rather use the mw.Api module directly, as per the rest of the editing the script does, instead of requiring the loading of another script. It's not hard to specify appending a new section -

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at the Video games Newsletter about having a page dedicated to the Video Game WikiProject. Like a monthly report about the project. Could that be something that could happen here in the future?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:ComparePages?page1=User%3AEvad37%2FSPS.js&rev1=&page2=User%3ADannyS712+test%2Fsps.js&rev2=&action=&diffonly=&unhide=&diffmode=source

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guidance should be fine - but just like with other measurements (e.g. meters/feet , degrees F/C) a units of measure conversion notation may be the best way to accommodate the most readers. —

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page, and are fairly close to the transferred bytes reported by the network section of Chrome DevTools. So now we can decide whether/how to implement such a feature. Some points to consider:

7063:, No one has been blocked. Would you like to actually be productive and help build our encyclopedia? If so, I can point out a number of topics and projects that might be of interest to you. 8296: 6513: 6147: 6117: 4514:, I'll stand corrected, but I'll think you'll find that many of the people specially selected to be part of those work groups could have afforded to attend the meetings on their own steam. 5927:

loves to cover every phase of the latest example of the WMF attempting to do something without consulting anyone, the shit hitting the fan on Knowledge, and the WMF backing down. It's the

2749:? Shooting the idea down before people even have a chance to comment, and trying to shut the discussion down after support was expressed for it, and technical feasibility was demonstrated. 8407:

I've been a semi-professional journalist before and would like to volunteer myself if you're looking for a writer/editor/whatever for Signpost. Let me know if I can be of any assistance!

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One good way to start is to write up some items for "In the media" or "News and notes" (I assume you may already be somewhat familiar with the basic format of both sections as a reader).

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So it appears that the classic internet adage really does hold true: don’t feed the trolls. Deny them the pleasure of an angry reaction, and they’ll probably leave you alone." --Source:

6267: 6204: 5551: 3898:, which the rest of the page doesn't appear to be written in. No problems with it being used, but linking may help readers such as me better understand the message! Side note, went to 2974:

Concerning citation bot itself, I'll reply on your talk page. A Signpost article's talk page would have been great for this so more could benefit, but alas, heads in the sand and all.

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intention for hatred towards anyone; it was a humorous piece about grammar that unfortunately was taken by some to be offensive. Comedy explores ideas that not everyone finds amusing.

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Continuing on the previous discussion, it is technically feasible for the publication script to get size estimates. For this issue they were inserted as hidden comments in on the main

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set a "nomoblie" class on the title. Not entirely sure why, but edit summaries in the page history suggest that, at least circa 2015, the titles couldn't be made to work on mobile. -

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Sure, does sound like a sensible idea. If you want to code something up I'll take a look. Feel free to make a sandbox copy of the publishing script and edit that, if you want to. -

643:, isn't this a bit OTT? The Newsroom has been in a period of transition since April last year when the then E-i-C abandoned it without so much as a word, and on and off for years. 6596:

case for a nuking. The entire "don't delete" argument is "muh censorship". If you think it's censorship to treat people with basic human dignity, boy howdy do I have news for you.

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are nowdays. They only seem to be used in the preload templates (where they've been outputting blank values for 2 years without a problem, and should probably just be removed) and

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not trans and it's fucking laughable you would use that as an example of not being transphobic. Let me guess, "I love RuPaul, so I can't hate tranni- sorry, the transgendereds".

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I noticed that the archive box at the top of this page doesn't have links to the archive pages (it says "no archives yet"). Also, the "Previous issue" link at the bottom of the

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BTW, I mentioned at the Newsroom talk about the 6,000,000th article coming up. You did something amazing I rember for the 5,000,000th. Anything you can think of this time?

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What was funny? It was a transphobic tired. If I called you a worthless subhuman cissy, you'd go straight to ANI about it. You are exactly the reason this place is trash.

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is a unit of data volume, not a number. It means "300 million characters", not "300 million". One can have a crore of rupees, or people, or mosquitoes, one cannot have an

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If the deletion discussion ever has more !votes than the article which is its subject has views, that is likely to be indicative of a problem with the discussion process.

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This is now done for the main page. There's no additional delay needed for the publishing script, the change there is literally just dropping the hidden comment tags (

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to add some semantics to the table (note that I am not even clear on what are rows here... this should probably not be a table at all or just reconfigured entirely),

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Hi. I wouldn't want to retarget that shortlink because it would break all of the existing links. Can the about page link not be converted to a regular external link?

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Nope. They appear to be ineducable, flatly denying that the Streisand effect could possibly apply to their attempts at censorship. See the section below this one. --

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can we have your tool fix were around punctuation the reference appears? And move from many lines to one? Something that would fix the issues such as presented at

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Reading that page the latest seems to be that Larry has handed the domain over to a community member, and they are going to try and keep it running after all.

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Now on any individual pieces, you can probably disagree on matters of style or matters of focus and whatever. But the editor-in-chief of a publication which

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Yet. Today I've been called a fascist for not liking transphobia. I've been accused of being a SPA for caring about trans people. Sorry I'm not a polymath.

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has become The Signpost's most viewed article since the beginning of 2018 at least, currently with over 7800 views (in only 7 days). The second most viewed

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What does "📥︎" mean? It looks like a download link, but the link goes to content displayed in the browser window rather than initiating a file download.

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editors please take a day or two to ping someone who is knowledgeable on this topic to review your work before it goes out to print, e.g. via posting to

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I'm talking about a news article here to inform Wikipedians on the current state of affairs and not about speculations what wmf might or might not do.--

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Signpost-independent way for newsletter writers to spam some mostly-willing participants? And surely the answer to that could be yes. We could have a

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Does anyone have any idea why the latest issue has been delivered to my talk page twice? As far as I can tell, I'm only on the subscription list once.

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If that works, I'll start working on the other on-wiki step that isn't automated (Cleanup the newsroom). That one should be pretty straight forward. --

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it gets hosted elsewhere and hence better controlled. How about a '2019 - Year in Review' feature for next month's issue? There's plenty of grist for

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I wonder if anybody has the courage to summarize this perspective that will draw the ire of the activists swarming on this site for the past years.

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that is planned to be initiated in the coming months. Community feedback at Meta is minimal so far (and seems to come from German Knowledge only). --

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Could you make a PDF of what you viewed, and upload it for us to see? Specific changes you’d like to see from the printed version would be helpful.

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and ask if they can do something to make it so that those of us who do the checking do a better job of catching and fixing accessibility errors. --

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When rigorous scientific analysis has determined something to be true, and you refuse to believe it anyway, you are indeed "rejecting science." --

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That's just plain false. The recommendation page has a big notice in 17pt font at the top that says "Note: Working Group draft recommendations are

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I recently discovered the Singpost and was eager to read it, but I was disappointed to find that there was no standardized offical print option.

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hide, just flaunts its liberal agenda and disregards it’s own NPOV. An article should definitely be written up about how NPOV has been abandoned.

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Download size apply to non-mobile as well. Whether the information is useful to you or not mostly depend on how wealthy you are, or if you have a

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Serendipodous, as you say, it boggles the mind. I don't know what Sanger's politics are, but he has become a promoter of conspiracy theories (a

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The editors of the Signpost have made it abundantly clear that external help is unwelcomed, and so they can sort this out between themselves.

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more accessible, and without expressing any opinion on whether the particular issues you list are actual accessibility issues, we should make

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Happily, this discovery suggests an easy way to deal with trolls: ignore them, rather than giving them the satisfaction of an angry reaction.

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of Biden will be censured by most of MSM, under the reasoning that Trump may run again in 2024 & let's not risk helping Trump's return.

8367:...Who has made a career out of selling articles trashing Knowledge to unreliable sources that object to being called unreliable sources. -- 8249: 7041: 4982: 2496: 1547: 1082: 4311: 4200: 3525: 1622: 1518:

The main Signpost page isn't the only way to navigate to the articles – there's also talkpage messages, mailing list email, templates like

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Meh, it's fine :) I was just wondering if it was some fixable mistake in configuration or something as easily explainable as human error.

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I could point out about 1 or 2 areas on Knowledge, where NPOV isn't accepted. But, I'm not interested in being reported to ANI or Arbcom.

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rather than user pages. If you mean that there is no article about you, perhaps editors have not considered your activities sufficiently

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the email announcement has not been received on the mailing lists. Do you know who is in charge of the email publication for this issue?

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or something to make it easier for custom user styles to target these pages? As an example, right now I have to resort to selectors like

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What do you want me to do, dude? You yell at me for having multiple threads open, and then get mad when I close them. What do you want?

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We're gonna get absolutely dogpiled, but I agree. Although I take a dim view of pseudoscience I agree Knowledge has become left-biased.

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I used html comments to hide a few broken resources. I wasn't sure if we should work to revive the resources or just remove the links.

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who look for any opportunity to have a go at admins. The overall community climate on en.Wiki has been on rather a low ebb this year.

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A reader thought that the featured section was pretty big, especially on mobile, and it would be useful to get size warnings. I made a

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I might write something about CZ for the next issue. I and a few other people have been writing regular updates about Citizendium on

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is not a daily publication. I think it's monthly or twice a month or something? It's easy to see that an article is being worked on.

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as of its June, 2017 re-launch. Just off the top of my head we have some new columns and some style stuff that could be updated in.

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And because this bears repeating, not only were the words "drive-by good-idea mongers" written with a straight face, they were used

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I just made a couple of minor changes (specify the month name in the section title, fixing some of my mistakes in comments, etc) -

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Going past the fact that it's blacklisted, the "opinion" presented there is probably still relevant to coverage in the Signpost.

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Did I overlook where this has been discussed at English Knowledge? The Foundation is currently conducting a pre-consultation on a

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already has several numerical values, such as Encyclopædia Britannica ("the size of Knowledge is X Encyclopædia Britannicas") and

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transition to implementation structure" doesn't sound like some random proposal that the WMF is planning on ignoring, does it? --

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proposes and which the WMF is publishing on a WMF-controlled page by someone with (WMF) in their username so it can be discussed.

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articles about Fram? Signpost coming at it again with that journalistic integrity, throwing gasoline on an already heated issue.

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cleaning up the newsroom is done by substing a template, so that doesn't need to change. What would need to 'change' is removing

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Smaller pages don't really need a size warning – perhaps this should just be used for larger pages over some arbitrary threshold

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I don't recall one time you ever 'advocated' for me. The first interaction I remember with you was you expressing hope that I "

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I am not the pitcher here. The term popularised in a place and time where that was the situation (worthless dispostion, ergo,

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I'm sorry to lose you as a colleague, and I hate to be critical, but you are attacking people I respect and I want to respond.

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coverage to pass WP:N. Otherwise it's still a purely WP internal matter, and there's plenty of that within the WP namespace.

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makes it really easy to add a new section to the current page, and I could configure it to allow use on any page. Should I? --

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tied to a chair, etc., let me address your captors: First, keep up the good work. Second, please take away their keyboard. --

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You have created the world's biggest repository of information. It is your responsibility to make sure people are safe here.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Knowledge:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour&diff=885668498&oldid=885667368

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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And again, the Signpost being hostile to anyone that dares disagree with its Dear Leadership. Par for the course, really.

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If you accept the invitation, you can choose the channel that suits you best for this conversation. You can sign up for a

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nope, these slipups sometimes happen. You can't unring a bell or take back a sent message. Just delete the extra notice.

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You cannot ask trans people to fix the transphobia you created, and then block them when they call out that transphobia.

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Knowledge Signpost articles. If you are offended or feel that your time is being wasted, you only have yourself to blame.

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P.S.: After a straw poll in the past and the current flawed surveyby the WMF, there is now an open letter to the board:

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refusal to innovate out of fear and out of conservatism, and to shoot down anyone that brings anything new to the table.

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and comment "*deleted" did not disrupt the archive page layout. I've only noticed it, because mini-subscription template

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The RSS links provided in the "subscribe" page are broken (both of them). Hope this is a good place to flag this bug :)

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name, then they apologize and undo everything. Nothing else will have any effect. It's the Wikimedia Foundation Way. --

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Evad might be onto something here, but such duplicates are a general issue with MassMessage. See the venerable bug

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for printer-friendly rendition. It looks ok to me, which is why I asked for your input on what could be better. ☆

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breitbartcom/tech/2020/07/22/wikipedia-discourages-editors-from-using-fox-news-as-a-source-on-contentious-content/

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Every fucking time cishets are asked to change, they claim we're trolls. Amazing. I asked a question, that's all.

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It's not unusual, over a billion people in the largest democracy in the world are familiar with it. Do we have a

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mill... I'd come back to contributing, but I'm not exactly a bugger for punishment from <names redacted: -->

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the Signpost is working overtime on the current crises. I think we can leave further discuss of this to later.

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A post I started on Citizendium a few months back suggested that that project close. It was mentioned by the

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Here we go again with the screeching about how "not allowing me to be hateful is fascism". Sure, family guy.

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is strongly discouraged). I hope that you still wish to help improve Knowledge's coverage of other topics.

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As a counter-example to your claim that Knowledge is biased against transgender people, I can point you to

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https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/wikipedia-paid-editing-pr-facebook-nbc-axios_n_5c63321be4b03de942967225

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and was hoping to find a table of dialects by population of primary users - anyone know if we have one? —

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is a fork of the script, with the added step 14 of requesting the mass message. See the changes I made at

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Not sure what happened there - that code worked fine for all previous editions since it was introduced -

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No article on the current struggle over rebranding with the community and wmf apparently at odds again?--

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seems to have eaten the estimated article size normally displayed below each article's headline on the

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A special report on this topic has now also vanished. Now you see it, now you don't. What is going on?

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out. This could be done via a pdf that is pre-formatted rather than just printing the standard page.

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Hello and thanks for all the good work. Can I make a small suggestion for a pre-publication check?

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people (perhaps purposefully exaggerated)? Came off a bit odd to me as the first blurb. Thanks! —

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automate requesting a watchlist notification. It should be fairly easy to add that functionality -

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breitbartdotcom/tech/2019/03/26/wikipedia-editors-paid-to-protect-political-tech-and-media-figures/

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and replaced it with NaN. I've taken a look, but I couldn't find any obvious cause, so I'm paging

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Hm. Apparently Jimmy Wales, a self-confessed Ayn Randian objectivist, is a progressive. Who knew?

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website not associated with Knowledge. They may both be winners, but in different competitions.

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which case it will inevitably be submitted in a 90% finished form within hours of publication. —

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What is Knowledge doing to ensure that content like this never makes it to The Signpost again?

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of providing a voice to the community it purports to serve, or against listening to new ideas.

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Featured content report is defunct and lately was not "generated on a weekly basis via script"

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List of units of measurement demonstrating that not everything is an example of systemic bias

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is a very unusual unit anywhere outside of the United States and Canada. And it is listed at

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to that platform. The file size is also given, which doesn't bother me one way or the other.

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IN FOCUS But they aren't entirely sure they see it TRAFFIC REPORT Plus a few celebrities.

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protest. How you didn't understand what I meant, I don't know. This has been a hot issue at

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is not racist. You should apologize for throwing around a word like that so irresponsibly.

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Should we make the various links to that page consistent -- all hidden or all visible? On

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Somebody should probably have a writeup of these reports, even if they are biased sources:

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In my opinion, we should move it from Commons to being hosted on the English Knowledge. --

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Can someone ping me when the next issue is ~24 to press so I can do a once-over? Thanks. ―

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Nice to see some positive fallout from all this drama: educating some participants on the

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I don't understand. I was asked to come to a consensus before editing, what do you want?

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I haven't found the source for this paraphrase, but it is not original to me. Sincerely,

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Lastly, if you have an interest in reading and reviewing academic papers, check out our

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article. Is it OK if I G7 the logo or do I need to keep it around for archive purposes?

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https://www.wired.com/story/why-wikipedia-decided-to-stop-calling-fox-a-reliable-source/

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Is there any way that this could happen? How could I go about formally requesting this?

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doable, but that can be done later if it's not straightforward to do so at the moment.

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answer to your questions. Don't like it? Don't ask questions if you don't want answers.

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Local man halfway through rude reply no longer able to recall why he hates other editor

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WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked

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I can include the news in WMYHTW, perhaps along with some infographics if I have time.

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could be a great supplement, but not so long as the, you know possibly failure to ZOMG

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Using standard message boxes for the information about where to discuss what at the top

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does not show up in search results, this is deliberate. Most searches are limited to

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called for people to get involved for years. I did something about it. Not only did I

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Feature request: ping a named group, like @newsroom or @copyeditors or @columnists ☆

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Apologies if this isn't the right place, but I have no idea where else to post this.

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since not all browsers render small text the same" with no mention of accessibility.

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Thanks for both comments. I'll check to see if those orange links show up. They do!

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The link is indeed hidden as described above, but the exact same link (and links to

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did indeed publish an article about this topic. Or several articles. Am I mistaken?

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in the first line that causes indenting. Towards the end of the page is a matching

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I'll be updating the publication script either this weekend or next week. Removing

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Still, it makes me wonder why this went on so long without any reader feedback. ☆

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I'm really not gonna bother much with markup here. Sorry, I'm too tired to care.

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Entirely my fault; I forgot to send it out Thursday. I took care of it just now.

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to make use of fixed dates/calculated volumes and such instead, go right ahead.

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is indented. In tracing the templates, I see a two pieces of of mangled HTML in

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I think that "Knowledge is not an encyclopedia" is not really what was meant in

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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thus ensuring that no single cranks wet dreams make it into serious discourse.

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medical procedure is safe. The only reason to single out abortion is politics.

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It's a modification of {{User Signpost-subscription}} with a scrollbar. Enjoy!

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Not even in the same category... or is it..? It may be a separate project, but

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Simulated Knowledge seen as less credible than ChatGPT and Alexa in experiment

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List of units of measurement that people can't be bothered to type into search

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If you are not going to read what I wrote, please do not respond, thank you.

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List of units of measurement unfamiliar to systemically-biased encyclopaedias

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Can you manage wmf redirects? This seems out of Wikimedia community control.

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Yes, I !voted to put it there. Not sure why User:Kmhkmh is still confused.

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already reported this particular occurrence there earlier today. Regards,

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the project is "moving forward". Not that this actually means anything...

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so hopefully it works OK across the different formats of the publication.

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Our voting process was our election of Editor-in-Chief, which resulted in

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Saw this reference to Knowledge in popular fiction and thought I’d share.

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Sure, I can get the script to add the previous issue date in the switch's

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In typical JS fashion, what I can only assume must be a bug somewhere in

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This is over a year old, but it still has unanswered relevant questions.

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without any sort of disclaimer explaining that this wasn't a WMF proposal

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I think it's safe to say it is an unusual unit of measurement outside of

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Calling someone a jerk is sort of racist. A jerk is a bartender for kids.

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I am not sure what you are informing me of. My understanding is that the

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Years ago, for some reason, I made a logo for the Arbitration Committee

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nobody is forcing you to dig through the history to read and respond to

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It's a relevant issue. This is not an arena. It's a talkpage, thanks o/

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yesterday, but I'm not aware of some official thing neither here nor an

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do not agree on whether the Editor-in-Chief position is filled. Compare

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English - in which case all articles about S.Asia should be forked off.

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I'd actually support broadening this concept to a section that includes

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has a check-box to "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange."

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New regular or semi-regular columns On the bright side, Tips and tricks

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if the class is implemented. This would make it easier for styles like

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In that case, I will honor the decision -- for the time being, anyway.

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The drafts disappear when they are published. Now in 06-30 issue. See

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Personally, I would prefer not to see the "on mobile" things at all.

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I asked several questions, actually. Additionally, would you expect

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Meet the 12 candidates running in the WMF Board of Trustees election

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Looks right to me with Chrome on my Android device now. Great work,

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page to help coordinate and preview the next issue of the Signpost.

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This issues humour page becomes Signpost's most viewed article ever?

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to target the article titles, which could instead be simplified to

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Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/Newsroom/Archive 5#Size_estimates

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and propose a section on writing HTML for increased accessibility.

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I'll judge for myself, if Knowledge is or isn't an encylopedia :)

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Hi, we would like to invite The Signpost team to participate in

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Knowledge's least favorite website is taking a stab at Knowledge

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WikipediaWikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/Filler_image-v2

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WP:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#Template:Newsletters

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Human or bot error. It was sent out twice, six minutes apart.

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knowledgeable than most and explicitly offering my services. ―

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I'd like to ask you to stay away from me from now on. Thanks.

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Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia talk:Knowledge Signpost/header

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in 2018 related to Signpost stats, so that's why I said 2018.

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Invitation to participate in Movement communications insights

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Thanks for the heads up. I've patched the main page for now

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https://meta.wikimedia.org/Community_open_letter_on_renaming

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What exactly do want to revert to here anyhow? A red link?--

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would do so, and much more lead by similar efforts by e.g.

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what you will but there is possibly an article lurking for

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Good point by filelakeshoe and Nizolan. On the other hand,

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Yeah it's definitely Jimbo's fault and the WMF cabal. Yeah

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Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/2019-06-30/Special report

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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/2020-06-28/Arbitration report

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Imagine using CNN or secondary sources with links to CNN?

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https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/

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in this issue that might have offended anybody at the WMF.

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unusual either, or indeed confined to Canada and the USA.

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for those unfamiliar with the term. Should it be added to

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I'll likely submit a reworked version of some kind to the

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Generally improved and more consistant looks at all scales

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Entirely OR but just before blocking me on twitter Larry

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Follow-up from a previous story on Citizendium shuttering

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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/2007-12-03/Technology report

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At one time I advocated for you. I do not do so anymore.

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The footer functionality seems to have been broken since

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manually before publication though, just a bit tedious.

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I would just like to make a small point that this issues

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for past examples - but can also be covered in advance.)

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There is a brief note in News a d Notes for this now. ☆

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Do we have / need a voting process for ideas like this?

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actually publishing things from members of the community

2516:. But there can't be too many of those around anymore. 2171:

Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests#Disputed Signpost article

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Using a horizontal archive box to save on vertical space

331:, since the beginning of 2018 (at least). I had done an 4905:

Is the Traffic report forward-chronological or reverse?

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meta:Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2018-20/Working Groups

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost

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Hey IP. Once Biden assumes office (Jan 20, 2021), any

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https://en.citizendium.org/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues

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You want an example? Here you fuckin' go, family man.

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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Newsroom/Content guidance

4065:, I see a real potential for a new WikiMedia project. 1049:- could you make sure that the script removes the new 695:

I've improved the banners at the top of the page here

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was "keep and blank". Knowledge runs on consensus. –

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will find any links to disambiguation pages, such as

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It's a very unusual unit anywhere outside of India.

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More of a meta issue here. Can we wrap the page in a

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about this, I thought I should post here. Currently,

7600:, I'm happy to do a once-over if you will ping me. ― 5323:

AI is not playing games anymore. Is Knowledge ready?

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Knowledge:Wikipedia_Signpost/About#The Signpost team

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This is great. Can we keep it moving forward at the

2285:. Because it does not account for the extra comment 751:

Who are the similar publications in other languages?

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other sources listed on the newsroom resources page

5597:It appears that the body (actual talk sections) of 5103:is a separate WikiProject that puts content on the 4185:I'm guessing this isn't how it's supposed to be. ☆ 2575:

for no other reason than to fan their friends words

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Knowledge:Village pump (proposals)#End the Signpost

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Happily, the issues render fine for now. – 5617:with no content (what's it do?) but then no later 4554:not received on WikimediaAnnounce-l or Wikimedia-l 1338:{{Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Templates/Issue|5}} 1334:{{Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Templates/Issue|2}} 1330:{{Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Templates/Issue|4}} 1204:leads to the Newsroom instead of the 2/28 issue. – 7426:changed the color on the poll to be more readable 5439:(altered by me on 02:42, 13 February 2020 (UTC)) 4490:to form a strategy in a way different to how the 3873:It's not a unit of measurement, just a number. – 534:with no prejudice against other viable options. – 8495:, I created it for interested folks like you. ☆ 6564:Why was this ever published in the first place? 5765:, This particular template was not widely used. 4364:a story here. The story is that a working group 2271:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Archives/2019-06-30 2089:to the special report, which was deleted due to 5980:and great things are still being accomplished! 4401:proposals from the Wikimedia Foundation." This 4370:posted by the WMF staffer who was advising them 439:, currently points to a "We've moved!" page at 8451:For N&N, one might start by reviewing the 1767:What we've got here is failure to communicate. 440: 230:for the article has over 14,500 views so far. 7241:. This is off-topic for this page. Drop it.-- 2491:as a Signpost editor, effective immediately. 582:WP:Knowledge Signpost/2019-03-31/In the media 4848:pre-consultation on a global Code of Conduct 4201:Knowledge:Signpost/Template:Signpost-snippet 4179:shows article blurbs only; no titles. E.g.: 4080:Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2019 3526:Knowledge:Signpost/Template:Signpost-snippet 3187:something the Signpost needs protection from 2093:concerns. The issue has also been raised at 1623:Knowledge:Signpost/Template:Signpost-snippet 7571:check the articles before they're published 6302:having pictures of Muhammed in the article 5523:May I suggest left aligning this template: 5355:What it's like to be Wikimedian of the Year 5271:userbox, useful for subscription purposes. 4039:really matter. As far as articles here go, 3429:New emoji/icon in each link to full article 2503:is the straw that breaks the camel's back. 1807:Ah ok, but where can I actually see that?-- 1731:already writing about it as can be seen in 1443:Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/Archive 1 7513:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Check Knowledge 6954:it's best if you step away from this now. 6571:subhuman """SJWs""", I would get a block. 6372:“non thinker” who has “rejected science”. 5404:Template:User Signpost-subscription-scroll 5072:Hello, should WPITN not link to Signpost? 5021:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets 8332:activispedians, have a go at this story. 8041:that never got used...except in one 2012 4120:I want the {pp} template to go on there. 7435:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Accessibility 6589:foster an environment that allows that. 6491:As Knowledge's other founder once said, 6084:Larry Sanger: Knowledge’s “NPOV” is dead 5603:Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/header 4484:diversity working group recommendation 2 4372:and published on a special page on meta 3453: 2203:Do we really need not one, not two, but 1786:is talking about a Knowledge article. -- 5664:who worked on that template last year. 5621:for the one starting on the first line. 3010:"Do we have / need a voting process..." 2732:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Next issue 2432:Chuck Klostermann book profiled in TIME 2306:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/2019-06-30 2275:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/2019-06-30 2243:Well, it would seem there was at least 1360:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Next issue 1326:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Next issue 658:report, and Tbayer was recent research. 310:Don't you mean, since the beginning of 14: 7376:2601:602:9200:1310:28C6:21DD:5792:96D7 6095:2601:602:9200:1310:59AF:2871:B4E0:1D8A 4914:Humour appears to have been abandoned 4306:Knowledge is no longer an encyclopedia 4261:. Titles are now showing on mobile. - 3740:Thanks, learned a new word today :D — 1447:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Archive 1 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 7921:Hello, I wanted to share a review of 7424:), and frankly, the most egregious I 7237:No, let us not discuss. Knowledge is 5215:. We are not your lever against ITN. 4921:If I think of more, I'll add here. ☆ 4342:I read through that discussion ( now 3940:List of obsolete units of measurement 2812:aims to be the voice of the community 2514:streamline the process and management 1697:Still no article on this? How come?-- 8444:or other sources recommended on the 7256:The following discussion is closed. 6546:The following discussion is closed. 5527:it looks terrible on mobile. thanks 5274: 5212:you have a gripe with ITN's coverage 3936:List of unusual units of measurement 3827:List of unusual units of measurement 3757:List of unusual units of measurement 2293:could be taught two new parameters: 1979:List of Knowledge controversies#2019 710:header which showed up above the TOC 25: 6635:consensus of a very long discussion 6567:Why was it blanked, but not nuked? 3395:even if it's in my own userspace. 2760:to make it easier to get involved. 2756:outlining all the progress done at 107:, now you are having a laugh right? 23: 8491:Gwenhope, you might want to check 6813:let your understandable ire settle 6522:User:Guy Macon/Yes. We are biased. 5931:way. (And that's a Good Thing!) -- 5825:Is The Signpost a reliable source? 5614:<div style=text-align:left: --> 5278: 3252:and perhaps WIkipedia, as a whole. 2921:Category:User newsletters by month 2281:with display format 2 of template 1733:Knowledge:Press_coverage_2019#June 211:is far behind at only 5240 views. 24: 8654: 8493:WP:Knowledge Signpost/Quick Start 8277:Oh duh, yes I did do it manually 7492:Please bring your concerns up at 5996:Knowledge:WikiProject Square Enix 5746:made a change to the header today 5599:Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost 4815:There's a discussion going on at 4320:, especially in conjunction with 4238:and it seem to work just fine on 3690:thanks for the note on the undo. 2346:. Please comment there not here. 2323:links to the Archives subpage. —⁠ 1864:Where to/why did it vanish now?-- 1712:Because it's wating for adequate 18:Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost 8625:Should be fixed for next time - 8303:Movement communications insights 7873:is going on at Citizendium" page 7475:While I fully agree with making 7318:The discussion above is closed. 7221:The discussion above is closed. 6838:treated like shit and deadnamed. 5267:Hey, look at this. I made a new 4310:according to WMF staff. Make of 4140: 4087: 2863:, please move it into WP space! 1778:are talking about an article in 1391: 950: 702:Particular improvements include 547:Outside coverage on paid editing 431:The link to the WMF blog on the 29: 5546:My Knowledge page is not found 4258:Removed from the live template 3533: 2723:It is not just that, it is the 2476:to work as well. — AfroThundr 2468: 2463: 8291:01:12, 29 September 2020 (UTC) 8273:01:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC) 8250:00:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC) 8216:13:20, 28 September 2020 (UTC) 8199:13:08, 28 September 2020 (UTC) 8183:12:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC) 8160:23:14, 27 September 2020 (UTC) 8144:23:08, 27 September 2020 (UTC) 8128:23:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC) 8111:22:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC) 6965:I never said they did, Moose. 6817:we need help and more guidance 4545:17:34, 18 September 2019 (UTC) 4524:11:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC) 4507:07:31, 19 September 2019 (UTC) 4368:was able to create a proposal 4234:I removed that class from the 790:d:Q7395165#sitelinks-wikipedia 13: 1: 8621:00:22, 30 November 2020 (UTC) 8530:Estimated article size is NaN 8522:23:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC) 8507:22:30, 30 November 2020 (UTC) 8487:22:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC) 8425:03:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC) 8397:13:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC) 8322:11:13, 24 November 2020 (UTC) 5492:00:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC) 5460:20:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC) 5437:02:41, 13 February 2020 (UTC) 5251:18:29, 19 February 2020 (UTC) 5231:17:48, 19 February 2020 (UTC) 5205:17:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC) 5180:16:09, 19 February 2020 (UTC) 5156:15:33, 19 February 2020 (UTC) 5127:15:26, 19 February 2020 (UTC) 5088:15:23, 19 February 2020 (UTC) 5019:It's even easier than that. 4983:16:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC) 4963:05:48, 25 December 2019 (UTC) 4931:23:50, 21 December 2019 (UTC) 4884:11:34, 15 December 2019 (UTC) 4866:04:36, 15 December 2019 (UTC) 4843:18:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC) 4386:17:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC) 4356:16:39, 9 September 2019 (UTC) 3070:and discussed actively here. 2945:User:Doc_James/Tool_test_page 2460:<div class="signpost": --> 2032:Thank you for your insights. 1316:. Not sure what the point of 1059:from drafts upon publishing? 8637:03:57, 4 December 2020 (UTC) 8600:15:50, 4 November 2020 (UTC) 8584:01:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC) 8564:01:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC) 8377:19:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC) 8363:15:17, 3 November 2020 (UTC) 8347:05:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC) 7230:What is "grossly offensive"? 5852:Just came across the use of 5347:A month after Wikimania 2024 5060:17:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC) 5042:16:10, 27 January 2020 (UTC) 5014:15:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC) 4799:18:22, 5 November 2019 (UTC) 4762:01:47, 2 November 2019 (UTC) 4742:01:42, 2 November 2019 (UTC) 4703:01:19, 2 November 2019 (UTC) 4678:01:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC) 4646:11:41, 2 November 2019 (UTC) 4612:01:05, 2 November 2019 (UTC) 4581:23:43, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4454:17:16, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4416:16:52, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4294:13:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4273:05:59, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4254:05:47, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4230:02:11, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4215:00:22, 1 November 2019 (UTC) 4195:23:43, 31 October 2019 (UTC) 4177:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost 4100:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost 2474:StylishThemes/Wikipedia-Dark 2318:Signpost-subscription-inline 1509:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost 445:wikimediafoundation.org/news 7: 8074:15:51, 12 August 2020 (UTC) 8059:19:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC) 8028:08:42, 12 August 2020 (UTC) 7983:04:04, 11 August 2020 (UTC) 7935:14:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC) 7483:pages accessible. not just 6470:) so perhaps less is more. 6258:He lost me at "Obamagate." 6006:Square (video game company) 5593:Signpost talkpage alignment 4337:04:36, 12 August 2019 (UTC) 4114:to reactivate your request. 4102:has been answered. Set the 4050:11:17, 12 August 2019 (UTC) 4026:04:45, 12 August 2019 (UTC) 3900:List of dialects of English 3829:. Perhaps we should have a 2772:others) made it easier for 2308:would not need unsupported 443:. It should be directed to 10: 8659: 8083: 7961:11:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC) 7909:01:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC) 7894:22:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC) 7858:22:29, 1 August 2020 (UTC) 7844:18:24, 1 August 2020 (UTC) 7829:18:00, 1 August 2020 (UTC) 7812:08:36, 1 August 2020 (UTC) 7767:08:35, 1 August 2020 (UTC) 7494:Help talk:HTML in wikitext 5843:14:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC) 5813:23:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5793:22:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5778:19:42, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5758:18:14, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5740:16:47, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5725:16:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5709:05:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5674:04:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5655:04:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5587:10:14, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5556:04:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 5514:00:41, 28 March 2020 (UTC) 5000:which could be changed to 4512:Evolution and evolvability 4165:18:28, 2 August 2019 (UTC) 4127:18:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC) 3993:18:38, 2 August 2019 (UTC) 3971:18:35, 2 August 2019 (UTC) 3956:18:14, 2 August 2019 (UTC) 3930:15:13, 2 August 2019 (UTC) 3909:19:19, 1 August 2019 (UTC) 3248:become disassociated with 1663:I like this. Thank you. -- 1467:22:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC) 1412:10:04, 23 April 2019 (UTC) 1386:03:34, 18 April 2019 (UTC) 1352:03:31, 18 April 2019 (UTC) 1301:21:21, 17 April 2019 (UTC) 1258:21:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC) 1212:21:05, 17 April 2019 (UTC) 1186:09:55, 12 April 2019 (UTC) 1160:03:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC) 1015:01:00, 28 March 2019 (UTC) 915:User:DannyS712 test/sps.js 683:12:45, 30 March 2019 (UTC) 653:04:01, 30 March 2019 (UTC) 631:15:42, 29 March 2019 (UTC) 605:19:21, 27 March 2019 (UTC) 575:18:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC) 542:17:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC) 521:23:16, 21 March 2019 (UTC) 495:20:21, 21 March 2019 (UTC) 481:13:01, 21 March 2019 (UTC) 455:12:12, 21 March 2019 (UTC) 419:18:57, 18 March 2019 (UTC) 390:18:44, 18 March 2019 (UTC) 189:18:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC) 162:18:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC) 137:18:10, 18 March 2019 (UTC) 8039:File:ArbCom logo beta.png 7993:on Fox News as unreliable 7940:Printable Signpost Option 7728:21:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC) 7686:05:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC) 7656:04:37, 30 June 2020 (UTC) 7642:01:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC) 7628:22:49, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 7593:21:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 7560:22:48, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 7525:02:07, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 7470:00:40, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 7384:10:52, 24 July 2020 (UTC) 7329:There is a discussion at 7290:Let's discuss, shall we? 6534:22:16, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 6514:21:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 6483:07:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC) 6462:22:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6442:21:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6421:21:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6398:21:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6382:21:17, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6367:21:08, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6346:21:01, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6323:20:18, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6297:16:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6283:15:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6268:15:22, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6250:08:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC) 6229:15:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6205:14:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6165:14:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 6148:22:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC) 6078:21:45, 29 June 2020 (UTC) 6049:20:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC) 6027:13:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC) 5990:22:29, 18 June 2020 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