Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/Archive 12

936:- The main thing. Consists of only three parts: New here?, Discussion and Next issue. New here? gives non-team members quick ways to submit suggestions, submissions and a link to the Quick Start page as well as to more information. Discussion is self-explanatory. Then, we come to the heart of the thing: Next issue. As you may have noted, there is no more transclusion from the Submissions page. If you are a regular team member and want to write a piece, you start it right here with the relevant button, allowing for progress of the entire Next issue to be centrally controlled and checked on a single page. The expanded checklists for each feature allow for more overview over the current status, while the links to Content guidance and Resources for each feature allow writers access to all relevant information without having to search for it beyond the Newsroom page. Discussion of the features themselves also takes place directly on the Newsroom page. Excuse the broken links for the articles that are currently being written - I have no idea where I can actually access the template for the main article table, so I had to improvise a little... 7824:

could do with a voting system to decide between multiple submissions for a column. However, I think it's going to be difficult to institute significant changes with so few contributors. In fact, I think quite a few of our problems are due to having so few people on the team. Correct me if I'm way off, but I think I only ever see about 10 people helping with each issue of the Signpost. The whole debacle with the humor piece kind of distracted from the fact that the rest of the issue was falling apart at the seams. How many times have we had to cut segments, not because there was no content to write, but because there was nobody to write it? We should definitely refine our process and make it more efficient, but we should also see if we can get more contributors on board since we're spread pretty thin right now. These problems go hand in hand.

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wikipedia for years, but never heard of it before. First impression is that it seems long with random topics, so it would take some overview to make people like me come back regularly, rather than spend my limited time editing articles. This is a talk page; there's a "project page" which contains apparently random, and often not self-explanatory, titles of articles, but no overall descriptive page. The greyed all-caps titles are somewhat more self-explanatory than the big black titles, but are pretty hard to read. Perhaps the project page needs to start with an overview or link to such an overview. Not an overview of the most recent issue, but an overview of the whole concept.

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focused on that event. Yes, there is much interest in covering the "Strickland incident", but including all the coverage without robust content on a more diverse array of topics balancing it may cause that quality coverage to seem like filler. If you are interested in writing on something that interests you for the next issue, please do propose it; just so long as it is relevant (and ties back) to Knowledge, the Wikimedia movement, or the Foundation, I am inclined to support inclusion.Regardless, I do think that at least a section or mention should be given to the user essay

404: 4926:: "Ugh. Don't remind me that this guy is on the Supreme Court. What a sad, sad day for America. Please, never mention this name to me ever again, unless it's part of an impeachment effort." I find this quite offensive. This certainly wouldn't be tolerated in an article and I don't think it belongs in this context either. This is a summary of an article, and is arguably written in WP's voice. Even if it were clearly an opinion piece, WP is not the place for opinion on such subjects - go express your political views on some blog. 2242: 31: 5739: 8541:

reasonable roadmap for how you should respond when it happens again, and it will, 'cause ain't none of us perfect. It's when you go on the offensive that the trouble starts. Telling offended readers that they're wrong and that they have no right to be offended is a really effective recipe for maximum drama. Go read the ANI report or the MfD comments or the arbitration request all related to this incident if you're not convinced. It makes it look like you

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especially not when the people you work with fuck up, even if their job falls within your area of management (I'm applying professional metaphors to a volunteer-run organization, but IMO this is a valid comparison). Accountability, in my opinion, means that when you fuck up, you admit it, own it, and work to remedy the underlying situation so that you don't fuck up again. I guess I can't say that's happened here, but I also would not say that

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be ready and willing to help with the process in any way I can. Also, I didn't mean to downplay the difficulty of actually getting more people to help, although upon rereading my writing I can definitely see how it would come across that way. I was not so much trying to assert a solution as I was trying to bring up angle on the problem that hadn't been covered yet. I hope that makes sense, I know my phrasing is a bit discordant today.

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that the Editor in Chief is one of them - a primus inter pares, whose main responsibility is pulling the trigger of publication. That way, we get a collegium of editors who can all delegate responsibilities to each other, with most taking on some more special duties, instead of a few very specialized roles that in the end don't have that much to do. But that's up for debate.

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not be succesful. There's not a lot of data to go on but my gut feeling is that some of the vacancies and resignations on the Newsroom staff were caused by a sense of being overwhelmed by the program and its responsibilities. If we have roles that people can step in and out of, it would be better than holding their nose to the grindstone. Also, not listed above but

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is a cogent rationale for including either it or a summary of it, so long as Bradv is okay with it—they can even write the summary, if desired. I am also not opposed to publishing the original in full.I am still concerned about potentially three separate pieces related to this incident being excessive, though I am not inclined to discourage content creation for

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call on all members of the European Parliament to vote against the current text, to open it up for discussion and to consider the numerous proposals of the Wikimedia movement to protect access to knowledge; among them, the elimination of articles 11 and 13, the extension of the freedom of panorama to the whole EU and the preservation of the public domain.

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willing to do the job. If you want to be treated as newspaper editors and exercise editorial discretion, then you need to make sure that your actions are acceptable to your publisher. I think we would all rather see a self-policing system than have articles taken to MfD or editors topic-banned from the publication (hasn't happened yet, but it could).

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is, the purpose needs to be clarified. The existing activity is no where near what a true E-in-C would do in practice. It looks like self-aggrandisement. People cannot just claim titles and avoid scrutiny when, through their lack of intervention, an ongoing shambles including Arbcom. is created. So clarification on that role is needed, please.

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necessarily going to create an account elsewhere just to contribute to the Signpost. If what we want is something with "Articles/features on the left; stages of production across the top", we can do that with wikitext/templates. Possibly even transclude it from a namespace with VidsualEditor enabled if you want to be able to edit visually. -

5832:(Vector skin, probably some other settings somewhere). I would be surprised if I am the only person that this is affecting. Is there an editorial reason for choosing Helvetica Neue, or for specifying a font at all? If not, it may be best for accessibility to remove the font specification and let the reader choose a font. – 5907:, but for me the difference in font size is barely distinguishable (see screenshot). This may be one of those things that varies between operating systems, or dependant on which fonts you have installed. I don't have any objection to reverting to the standard font if this is causing trouble for other users. - 4673:. If substantial content on other topics becomes part of the upcoming issue, then those concerns are no longer so great. If not, however, then I just hope the readers take it in stride as a showcase of a diversity of opinions and perspectives. But of course, this is not my decision to make; that is up to the 8519:

participate to explain whether they actually have a role in publishing reviewed content, then this situation can happen at any time. Apart from threats to the editor above I see no meaningful participation from either of the notional E-in-Cs. Either there is a E-in-C function or there isn't. If there

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I'm not really trying to "fault" anyone. I just see that there are problems and I'm offering my thoughts to the discussion. I'm not trying to claim to have all the answers or overstep my knowledge. Clearly, I wouldn't be the right person to write policy, but I can see it needs to be done, and I would

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I took some time to think about it, and I greatly support setting up some additional structure. Things like voting EICs in and out (although time limiting terms would probably not be a great idea), instituting clear official policies, and expanding an editorial board would help a lot. I also think we

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I have removed the font family and size specifications from the above-linked file. The most recent Signpost certainly looks different, but it is much more readable, in my browser at least. If it's OK with everyone, I'd like to leave it like that unless there are complaints. I did notice that the 2016

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I tried removing the font size specification, but it did not make a difference for me. I did a test in MS Word, however, and I noted that Helvetica Neue, the font requested by that template, renders considerably smaller at a given font size than Verdana, which appears to be my default sans serif font

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page in English wikipedia. That specific page is updated by some users I think. When I checked page, which is considered as the malayalam language link for the english page Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost, I was able to find that the specific page in malayalam was updated by Mediawiki Message Delivery.

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Hi Signpost, I'm interested in getting involved as a copy editor (and also helping with editing articles more generally, if that's an available position). I have experience editing at professional news outlets. The quick start page seems to be mostly for writers, though. Can you point me in the right

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consistently will present a cohesive style. And academics like the style because it is precise and without any ambiguity (unless you are quoting another academic quoting a third academic, and the second elided some of the third and you're quoting the elision, I suppose). These aren't poor arguments,

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the quoted material itself contains an ellipsis, then one editorially inserted by the quoter should definitely be in square brackets, to differentiate them. But it needn't necessarily be done otherwise. There are some academic publishers who require it in all cases, but that's an obscure style. It's

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because they were active in this discussion before) it took some time and still is not really finished, but I want to get some opinions and feedback before I put any further work into it (and also because I really need to get writing on News and notes..) As I said before, my main goal was eliminating

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If we want to go the way of working on the Signpost out of Knowledge, I could always throw up a Google Doc or a Trello board, which would be my favourite. I was under the impression we wanted to avoid using secondary pages/software with account creation etc., though I guess everyone and their dog has

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that I ... started (smiley). Reviewing what I wrote, it sounds kind of project-manager-ish, which is in my nature, but we shouldn't lose track of the idea that this is a volunteer effort by people who aren't here to be tasked and nagged. If we have a solution that feels like nagging, it will probably

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I've said a lot about this over at the Arbcom case already so I'll try not to repeat myself (too much). What happened here was really not a failure of the publication's structure, as far as I can tell. It was a failure in response to criticism. Someone above said (paraphrased) that you're publishing

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I've been a reporter for small newspapers my entire adult life. Attacks by some readers and disagreement among some staffers happens at every single publication of any worth; you have to expect that some people will be pissed by some articles or else you're generating pablum. If you produce any kind

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It's so transparently dumb, here, to use the "Streisand Effect" for pretty much anything except to stress one's agenda. It does not matter, at all. Never on Knowledge is the issue that you are free to publish something and have people see it, somewhere, the issue is always whether this vehicle for

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Had the authors written an essay using policy and encyclopedic guidelines to disagree with the current policies or guidelines around pronoun usage, nobody would be upset and none of this would have happened. It is the manner and tone in which this was presented that has upset a great many of us. ~

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two rounds of wiki golf, which he described as a massive multiplayer online eSport. He succeeded in reach from a small hill in Spanish to videogame company Valve, and from a Uruguayan metal rap album to high fantasy writer Brandon Sanderson. However, he required quite lot of time and clicks, not to

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be two separate pieces about it. This user essay, or a summary thereof, will potentially be the third if included. Sure, they all take different angles, go in different directions, and fill different functions, but they are all still about the "Strickland incident". Regardless, I think what you said

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internal to Knowledge, as it is an editor trying to do what he thought policy/guidelines want, in real time -- and that is a very valuable perspective to reflect upon, as we constantly evaluate our policy/guidelines. It is also a perspective that is unlikely to be published anywhere else, especially

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something there similar to what you did here, as well. Given that there appears to already be one piece of substantive coverage about the incident and perhaps another from a different angle, I am concerned that republishing (a summarized version of) that user essay might cause the issue to be unduly

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Instead of updating copyright laws in Europe and promoting the participation of all citizens in the information society, the directive would threaten online freedom and impose new filters, barriers and restrictions to access the Web. If the proposal were approved in its current version, actions such

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and implemented the main part of my planned overhaul. The Newsroom looks a bit chaotic due to the new transclusion from the Newsroom talk page (which, to be honest, I don't really get; didn't we want to get rid of transclusions? Is there a technical advantage I'm missing to using yet another page as

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I think the piece was within legitimate boundaries for disagreement; in other words, publishing it was fine even if I don't agree with it. And while I appreciate the need, reporting for Signpost would be exactly like my job and as I'm sure you understand, when I'm not working I like to do something

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Uh, more people seeing it was sort of the point? The problem wasn't "we have to pretend this doesn't exist!" it was "this existing in our internal newsletter is embarrassing as hell, no matter how many people see it". So more people saw it, and saw the reaction to it. This is good, because they saw

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The editors of the Signpost would have to ask Bradv if he wants his essay to be published in the Signpost (even in condensed version, although you do not lack for space). If you-all want another piece by someone else covering the coverage and even op-eding in response, that's fine - and, no I don't

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For these reasons, the Italian Knowledge community has decided to obscure all encyclopedia pages. We want to continue to offer a free, open, collaborative encyclopedia with verifiable content. We therefore ask all Members of the European Parliament to reject the current text of the directive and to

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BTW, I'm supposed to be E-in-C for the time being, but while I understand my principle duties are to have the final word on what gets published and when, I'm getting even more confused when trying to follow the submissions and their statuses - I have another couple of items lined up for this month,

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With respect, I disagree. Holding the title of Editor in Chief either means something or it doesn't, responsibility-wise. At least it sets an expectation of accountability. Lose the fancy Dan title and describe themselves as simply content aggregator (no editorial resp. for content) I am fine with

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I don't think that piece was the unambiguous attack that you imagine. Your demands for nonsensical denouncements with the looming threat of lost readers only indicates to me that your minority opinion has left you dis-attached from objective reality. I hope that you follow-through on your rant and

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sections to avoid breaking transcluded pages), and create new versions of everything. And because a large chunk of the templates are calling each other, they can't just be copied over to anew location – each new version would have to be carefully edited to call the new lot of templates rather than

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So far, dozens of relevant people in the field of information technology have been strongly opposed to this proposal - among them, the creator of the World Wide Web, Tim Berners-Lee, and the Internet pioneer, Vinton Cerf, 169 academics, 145 organizations for human rights, press freedom, scientific

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Thanks for that analysis, Zarasophos. I think Kudpung is moving forward with some stuff that should help us understand our audience better, as well. This is important work: developing an audience and keeping them engaged. He and I have another thing in the works that I hope energizes the Newsroom;

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And apropos Editors: I think a discussion we need to be having is what an Editor can do and what only the Editor in Chief can do. In my opinion, especially in our current situtation, we should make it very clear on the Coordination page that all members of the Editorial Board are, yes, Editors and

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and insured that before this is over tens of thousands of people will have read the page. On the Internet, attempts at censorship almost always backfire, generate a ton of free publicity, and result in the material being reproduced on dozens of websites and in hundreds of online discussions. See

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The Signpost does not write using Knowledge's voice, it has its own voice. For example, its journalists are often expected to do original research. It also regularly publishes opinion. I have noticed lots of humor/opinion in the Top-25 report before and wondered if it was appropriate there, but

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For these reasons, the community of Knowledge in Spanish has decided to darken all the pages of the encyclopedia before and during the voting of the text, that is, until 10 o'clock (UTC) on July 5. We want to continue offering an open, free, collaborative and free work with verifiable content. We

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Could someone please follow up with Xaosflux about the watchlist notice? He appears to be the only person who decides on what goes on the watchlist. When I asked for the watchlist notice for this issue he insisted onh there being a discussion. I don't know how much discussion it takes to convince

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authors and their (nominal?) editors shouldn't be accountable for the material they publish, in fact I think what I wrote here is the opposite of that. Maybe our definitions of accountability differ? I don't think accountability means that you must lose your job immediately when you fuck up, and

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So DuncanHill is blaming Barbra Streisand, who sued a photographer remove an aerial photograph of Streisand's mansion that, until she did that was viewed by four people -- none of whom had any way of telling that it was her home. That convinces me! I now realizes that it was the photographer who

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discussion and controversy. So you published something that, retrospectively, crossed the line out of provocative and into pointlessly offensive. You missed the mark, that's all; it happens. Like (I think) Headbomb said up the thread, we all have blind spots. And Headbomb also laid out a pretty

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To which degree that "satire" is actually "actively" hurtful is unclear to me and seems to be a bit in the eye of the beholder. Now there is apparently are larger number of editors that found this satire offensive, but that on its own doesn't necessarily imply that the text itself surpasses the

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Your first point correctly points out that Signpost is not the ANR (hence different policies may apply) and yet in your second point you make an analogy to ANR as an argument, that is a bit inconsistent and soft of exactly that misunderstanding of policy you were complaining about in your first

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Instead of updating the copyright laws in Europe to promote everyone's participation in the information society, it threatens online freedom and creates barriers to accessing the Net by imposing new barriers, filters and restrictions. If the proposal is approved, it may be impossible to share a

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I saw multiple links to Signpost on someone's talk page, and got here, but have still not found any overall description of what the Signpost is, where to find it, how long it is, how to search it, why I'd want to read it, etc. Does it lead to policy? make us better editors? I've been editing on

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contributors but calling for more participation doesn't work when we have a hard time scraping up volunteers. You seem too confident offering advice when you, yourself, are a relatively new editor. Either you want to step up and replace those persons you fault (which you're not, in my opinion,

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I would advise the editors to take these concerns seriously and work towards creating some sort of accountability to the community which you represent. It is inappropriate for self-appointed editors to deem themselves exempt from scrutiny because of editorial independence and nobody else being

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Nope. Headbomb and Fæ were quite clear that they thought that the content was hurtful to transgendered people. A point which, BTW, I never disputed. The were also crystal clear about wanting to remove the content so that these individuals would not see it and thus be harmed. Nowhere did anyone

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series. It was twofold thematic, too, both in terms of functionally being about admins and stylistically told with a creatively nautical narrative. It was met with praise, even within certain off-Wiki dens.Right now, however, it is difficult enough to even have enough content to publish. This

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as many transclusions, repetitions and unneccessary stuff as possible, updating the Newsroom while trimming it down to the workflow itself in a way that would be accessible to anyone stumbling in here, even if no-one of the current team was left. But now, without any further ado, I present my

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Thanks for dropping by! If I can make some suggestions for (ir)regular contributions: 1) update the traffic report from the Top25. It's fairly simple cut/paste, trim the list of 25 to 10 and add dated headers as appropriate. 2) Find brief items for In the Media -- search for "wikipedia" in a

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Isn't using an external service going to create duplication? How would we keep on-wiki and off-wiki stuff in sync? Assuming we're still going to have drafts and submissions and editing and (some) discussions on Knowledge, and that we want the participation of new/one-time writers that aren't

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The statistical theory that you are proposing is easy to test. Just compare the views of this Signpost humor piece with a couple of others. There is your scientific control. Bots, for example, are unlikely to just happen to visit the page that has the censorship attept more than the others.

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has yet to acklowledge that and its editors must self-introspect accordingly. Fucking up happens. People have blindspots. But burying one's head in the sand, or pretending the problem lies with the readership and hoping things die down isn't the way forward. But this is a good roadmap.

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Pre-publication community review brings the risk of vocal groups of editors shutting down perfectly reasonable articles that they disagree with. To prevent this, you could come up with a community-approved set of guidelines so that the review process would be based on policy instead of

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I think we need process that accomplishes these actions at a minimum. I've avoided the word "tracks" or "tells" in the interest of greatest flexibility. E.g. if the presence of a MediaWiki page in a specific location is sufficient, then we don't need to actively "track" a submission.

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As I correctly predicted, had Headbomb and Fæ had simply ignored the page, it would have had comparatively few readers (most people who get the signpost notifications don't bother reading the subpages), but by attempting to remove that which they found offensive, they triggered the

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to wrap text when emphasizing (italics), strongly emphasizing (bold), indicating a variable (italics), and introducing a term that is defined for the article (no typeface change) respectively. Their equivalent HTML could be used instead, but using templates may be easier and is the

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has a dozen items that could be copied over, too. 3) If you are a Wiki "insider" (and I think you are) you probably know where to go for Discussion report tidbits. 4) Any and all help on column copyediting especially as we get within 3-4 days of publication at end of the month. ☆

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I think the current situation is a bit more than "some people ... pissed by some articles". Controversy and passionate disagreements and arguments on a talk page is one thing, having a broad base of readers wanting something expunged from the record with drama spilling over into

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its critics. That the reply about a retraction still dodges the problem is discouraging. If the community is forced to delete the article because the Signpost refuses to take responsability for it and make amends for the hurt it caused, that would be a sad, sad outcome indeed.

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who made the feeds tool. But with 2a/2c, the problem is with Feedly following a rather strict interpretation of the RSS spec, which IIRC doesn't allow most (or maybe even all) html tags. With Firefox, which (on desktop at least) has a built in feed reader, it works correctly.

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Imagine that you agreed with Barbra Streisand about aerial images of her house being an invasion of her privacy. Imagine further that you knew what the results of her sueing the photographer would be. Would you have advised her to do it, just to embarrass the photographer?

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Thanks for the fix! It's a confusing situation, because the specimen shown has been considered either S. triassicus or S. sinensis according to different studies, and it is uncertain whether there is one species or two... But no one considers it as Dilophosaurus anymore.

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unless they really have to would suggest that it's highly optional. I don't do it on WP unless I have to, but I do use it in my off-site technical writing; it need not be about personal preference/habits, and like any style matter on WP it's a matter of house style. If

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as a reminder to the publication manager. A full ToC is probably overkill. But I should point out that we are already deviating from Zarasophos' proposal for tracking all items in the colored table. If we could get it in there, it would bring things back in alignment. ☆

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The signpost seems to have been half-published this month- the main "Signpost" page has a lot of last month's blurbs linking to this month's articles (e.g. "Has the wind gone out of the AdminShip's sails?" linking to this months "The Admin Ship - All Hands on Deck").

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Your suggestion sounds great-the only problem I see is that we might not anyone available that would put in the time to do that. There is probably an editor who has the skills to shorten the task you are suggesting but I don't know who that would be. Best Regards,

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I'd prefer that anyone besides me close that discussion out, as I'm at least tangentially involved and while I'm not the "decider" for WL-notices I do maintenance them often, and would likely be the one to implement the posting if the support for it is realized. —

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Premise: The current situation is not normal (or should not be). There shouldn't be drama blowing up following the publication of each issue. We shouldn't get dozens of readers telling something shouldn't have been published, or shouldn't have been covered in

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like what I said, which is as you say clearly wrong. Am I wrong is thinking "Editorial Board" is intended to be the header, while EIC/AEIC/EE should each have their current occupant, empty or otherwise, underneath them? Right now everything is shifted. ~

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With some effort I might be able to figure this out, but I have many other tasks to deal with already and adding anything requires that I drop or delay something else. I have no plans to add another task that's outside of my current focus areas. Regrets,

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The first step towards the change will be to snap any links between The Signpost and the aforementioned two, who have taken charge of the publication. None seems any willing to accept any criticism and this is fundamentally contrary to the wiki-way.

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I guess if you completely ignore all the objections that people made that aren’t the one that proves your weird point, you ARE right! It’s blanked, everyone is mostly satisfied, you should really let it go. This whole section is embarrassing.

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reopen the debate by examining the many proposals of the Wikimedia associations, starting with the abolition of Articles 11 and 13, as well as the extension of the freedom of panorama to the whole EU and the protection of the public domain.''

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Google accounts are easy to create, even if one wants to create a throwaway account for privacy. The sticking point would be paying for a subscription, which makes us go again to WMF or one of the regionals like WMDC with a grant proposal. ☆

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One of the 3 expectations for newspaper article you cite above seems clearly fullfilled, that is "satire" is "entertainment". Moreover a discussion on the use of pronoun (and related language issues/problems) in WP seems a fair subject for

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now has a surfeit of content connected to it. Assuming there is a next issue, it may be riding the waves of this media splash, but what of the issue after that? The publication may find itself right back in more dire straits once again.

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When I click on the humour article link, it takes me to what I thought was a draft page for the next issue of the Signpost. I actually can't find the humour article that was part of our most recent issue of the Signpost. Best Regards,

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censored (blanking is as good as deleting to the lay reader) just confirms the whole Streisand Effect theory but I fear it is going to lead to a slippery slope where risque humour is no longer allowed on Knowledge. I hope I am wrong.

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Not sure about the technicalities, but there is a thing showing up in the watchlist whenever a new site-wide thing happens: Arbcom lections, or various site-wide campaigns. A link thre can be put whenever a new signpost is released.

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documentation and newsroom workflow, we should keep in mind there are very different stakeholders with different needs and roles. I've tried to break this down into basics that don't necessarily depend on our current workflow model.

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Another oddity, the single-page edition a) looks like hell (see screenshot, right) and b) has the publisher's name – i.e. mine – for many things that it shouldn't and c) lacks internal section titles. Also something I wonder is

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Unless you are tied to a chair with your head in a clamp, your eyes taped open, a self-refreshing Knowledge feed on a monitor, and the Knowledge Song blaring into your ears, nobody is forcing you to read and respond to

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Yes, it is Recuring themes:) I thought that coloured table was going to replace the ToC. Not that I mind either, but having to constantly update the two seems to be duplicating something. Whatever you think is best.

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So, what I was trying to do is to identify the mislinked page in malayalam wikipedia and redirect it to the correct link in malayalam wikipedia so that I can create the new Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost in Malayalam.

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I'd be very much in favour (especially since it would allow us to leave 10 years of accumulated subpage garbage behind), but I think we'd need to reconfigure bots for archiving etc. Should be a doable task, though.

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That explains it. There are elements of the distribution that are tucked under the manual process section that your script performs and there are elements that it doesn't. I'll update the instructions, accordingly.

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of all the templating people. Plural_they have so important things to say about what others have writen, that plural_they have no time left to write by plural_them-selves. What about a template atop each article ?

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Non-controversial changes such as fixing typos are generally okay. I think this link would fall under the same category. More controversial stuff should be discussed but I can't see a reason why not to include it.

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think, you should have Bradv be the one to do that. I don't see why the Signpost can't have two pieces (and even another op-ed from another perspective: someone from Women-in-Red?). The value of the BradV piece

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Nobody is censoring anything, we are opposed to retaining inappropriate material. It is not censorship to remove unhelpful and inappropriate material any more than it is censorship to remove unsourced or attack

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I apologize to anyone who was offended by my commentary in the Top 25/Traffic Report. As I have said before, you are welcome to take it out. While opinions are common in the Report, I probably went too far here.

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From a comic strip web site, where comments included one about Knowledge removing information that didn't fit, leading to this response: "Sometimes it’s ok, but the project was largely ruined by Wikipedians.".—

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Just to bring discussion back on topic - what's the opinion on adopting the overhaul for the Signpost pages? To sum up the main differences for anyone not interested in trawling through the wall of text above:

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with the Top 25 Report, as well, whose team will probably be glad to have another editor helping out. Ultimately, one of the best remedies for addressing problems like this, and to ensure that they are, is to

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and these dramatic episodes keep on happening without them learning anything from the sagas. Even more, you can be reverse-targeted of intentionally harassing these people and subjected to wild threats (vide

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Well, even three pieces don't make a 'theme issue', although in the future theme issues might be something to think about, but that would likely take much time over months to develop pieces on a whole theme.

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In other countries of the Spanish-speaking world, such as Colombia and Mexico, the Knowledge community has recently opposed similar proposals. We ask you to keep abreast of their development and support this

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2012 feed called "Knowledge Signpost" that doesn't seem to be updated anymore. I had to paste in our RSS address, which is absolutely a barrier for 99.9% of our readers. Just finding it took me a few minutes

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The various interactions about the Strickland incident definitely merit coverage in Discussion report. Let's make sure to get something there (with balance of course, not to repeat issue 10's kerfuffle). ☆

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On July 5, 2018, the plenary of the European Parliament will vote on whether to proceed with a proposal for a directive on copyright. This, if approved, would significantly damage the open Internet we know

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suggests. Further, I would be on an editorial board if people need spots to be filled, as I think I have a relatively good sense of what should and shouldn't be published. I don't really think anybody on

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Should the EIC(s) be subject to recall, or have time-limited terms? Should the position(s) be filled by voting/election? – rather than whoever has the job gets to keep it until they decide to give it up

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Don't edit it yourself. Suggest you change on the relevant talk page. In my experience, the pepole who put together the signpost are always willing to put in significant corrections and improvements. --

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source instead of just doing all things in the Newsroom and redirecting there?), but at least I commented out the Submission transclusions. Write-ups of workflows and what happens where can be found at

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A community approval process for editor positions would certainly help with accountability. At the very least, the ability for the community to remove individuals from the position would be essential.

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Thanks, sing out with any news if you have any. Glad you found the redirect useful and feel encouraged to make your own when you think they might be useful. If you ever want help to submit content to

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Would it help to have a larger editorial board be in charge of approving articles, rather than just one person or two people? How many people? How difficult would it be to actually fill such a board?

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Too many semantics here imho. Yes WP is not free speech forum, nevertheless WP projects pages are supposed to be a place for the frank and contrarian exchange of opinions between Wikipedians as well.

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On 5 July 2018 the European Parliament will decide whether to speed up the approval of the copyright directive. This directive, if promulgated, will significantly limit the freedom of the Internet.

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somehow magically made the image appear in newspapers and on Knowledge. Barbara's actions had nothing to do with it. With enemies like Barbra Streisand, the photographer doesn't need friends. --

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article, the problem is, neither actually shows Dilophosaurus, but other dinosaurs (as clearly captioned in the article). So it would be quite urgent to switch these images with something else.

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Questions about Mr. Whitaker’s claims to have been an Academic All-American were raised Monday on Knowledge Signpost, an in-house publication for Knowledge editors, by a user named Smallbones.

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We didn't post to social media in March because the active people did not have the social media credentials. I think Chris is looking for them to use in concert with publication going forward.

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What is needed is a group editable progress spreadsheet instead of a clunky Wikitable. Articles/features on the left; stages of production across the top. SaaS is likely to be payware though.

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Moving is very complicated due to all the templates and subtemplates that are used not just for the current issue, but also for the past issues in the archives. The only way to do it without

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I was thinking the content would be on-wiki, and off-wiki tools used for coordination, status, assignments and so on. Some experimentation would be required to show this would all work. ☆

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Get a mention in the Did you Know section on the front page. - While I think producing the Signpost counts as improving the /Signpost page, it's probably pretty unlikely to actually happen

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But obviously, there needs to be consensus from the team to adopt the overhauled pages. All the static ones I'll be able to copy over, the Newsroom will probably need a bit more fiddling.

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I agree that this is a good candidate (for an Essay?). I've had bad experiences with vexatious nominations for deletion on articles I've (co)written about women in nontraditional fields:

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that's up to the Signpost's editor. It very well might be appropriate as the topic might otherwise lapse into an extremely boring presentation, a little commentary lightens things up.

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I don't much care about the patterns you see and at any case, I won't reply to some unsubstantiated aspersions which are not any related to the substance of the thread. FWIW, it's the

2248:. Issue 02-20 is the obvious outlier, with double as many views as the next one, but this can probably be attributed to the delay of the next issue. Another interesting statistic are [ 1982: 1731: 4238:, our official resource for new writers. If there's a regular feature you want to write, reply below and I can provide some guidance on that. Or are you more interested in editing? — 4602: 702: 698: 8529: 7636:

I have to say, the response to the concerns raised by MattLongCT and Headbomb was highly unconstructive and frankly anti-collegiate. It does not make editors feel welcome at the

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Otherwise, the Signpost's readership and writership will dwindle, likely with several people boycotting the publication out of principle, and refusing to be associated with it.

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How about a physical distribution of Signpost? I'd be willing to pay good money to have a traditional newspaper looking Signpost appear in my physical mailbox. That'd be cool.

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Should the community have some way to halt publication of a piece if there are multiple strong objections? – maybe somewhat along the lines of how voluntary admin recall works

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that the only way to skip people who are not around would be to have the template automatically opt users into that category, but I'm not sure that's wise. Just my 2 cents. --

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to get the Facebook credential for our existing account. I am gathering a ideas about a larger social media strategy and I'll let the community here know when I have a plan.

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Back in 2003 when I joined, I figured wikipedia would fizzle and die in a year or two. Never thought it would haunt - er, I mean, be a joyful part of my life for so long. -

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Yes, although according to the AfC guidelines, the reviewer did not make a mistake when declining, either. (I suppose technically it's called "declining an AfC submission".

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You already said that at the other place. Let 's keep discussion there OK? This was intended to notify people unaware of the proposed action, not to open a second venue. ☆

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research and technological development; and the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that promotes, among other projects for free knowledge, this encyclopedia.

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So Guy is blaming the people who responded to a really shitty piece of work, instead of blaming the author. "With friends like these, the Signpost does not need enemies".

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Find brief items for In the Media -- search for "wikipedia" in a web-based news aggregator often returns good results. Or scan Jimbo's talkpage or Women in Red talkpage.

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Hello Signpost readers and editors, I've been reading about the lack of volunteer work at the Signpost, and also noticed a page very similar in purpose to The Signpost,

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articles appear in a font size that is much smaller than the setting I have chosen for articles. This change appears to have happened, at least to me, sometime in 2015.

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I'd like to have some measure of our readership so we can gauge the impact that changes make or will make in the future. Is there any metric at all for "circulation"? ☆

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For the interested readers: WSJ articles are paywalled, but they don't paywall links from Twitter. Here's a tweet by the author, from which you can link to the article:

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was reverted, so I'm posting here instead. Right now, it looks like there is no editorial board, Bri is EIC, Evad37 is AssEIC, and the Emeritus position is empty. ~

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and Knowledge is better off without you anyway." Do you even hear yourself? "I hope you leave Knowledge?" Really? REALLY? That's the response you have for criticism?

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It would be good to have more eyes on draft articles pre-publication. Maybe set up a mass-message list? – assuming that people would actually want to help out per

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And that kinda gets to the point of it: it's easy to cry that one's offended and therefore demand apologies and resignations but when volunteers provide a service

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as sharing a news item on social networks or accessing it through a search engine would become more complicated on the Internet; Knowledge itself would be at risk.

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Here's a few things I've thought about we could do to attract new readers, which would hopefully also lead to more editors. (By the way, the Signpost front page

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I'm sorry about this... I don't know what went wrong. I only hit the button once. I certainly wouldn't have sent two duplicate messages with that much of a gap.

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complaining to the WMF about its coverage, opining that a bad Knowledge is worse than no Knowledge, at all. If there's consensus against Bri as EiC, take it to

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Moving is a complicated due to all the templates and subtemplates that are used not just for the current issue, but also for the past issues in the archives. -

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Post links to Signpost articles on pages that have been reported on, such as the recent Discussion report and the Village Pump subpage for deletion of portals.

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Be way more agressive with the ol' Social Media - I have no idea about Facebook, but on Twitter we could do polls, retweets and discussions even between issues

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It is time to publish - Done by the Editor-in-Chief, as before; since it's a one time job for each issue, I think we don't need a dedicated position for that

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Just wanted to put this out there, maybe we can start talking about what works best for everybody. I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts, of course; pinging

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version with some editing; check the page histories and compare the reports to see for yourself. In that sense, the traffic report is more a lightly edited

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I've been looking for data to see how we've been doing in terms of readers the last two issues; the general outlook seems to be positive. If we look at the

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What style/finish is required (e.g. title, blurb, byline; maybe also what is optional) - Done by the new checklist in the main article table in the Newsroom

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I think it is time to reflect on the current structure and process, and whether they are serving us well. Some brainstorming ideas / points for discussion

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I understand that the next publication's deadline is very close, so feel free to completely ignore this until after publication. This is not urgent at all.

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Most reasonable editors are going to forgive you for being human, and admitting that you fucked up. Because we've all fucked up, unless you've never done

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Clear signal from selector (E-in-C, I think?) that intermittent pieces are approved - Done by the new checklist in the main article table in the Newsroom

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AN/ANI/Arbcom/elsewhere, is something else. I'm not sure what the solution is, or if there even is one, but surely there is something we can try besides

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but were inappropriately shut down by a single sysop (who has since then evaded all responsibility for this saga) using an array of ridiculous arguments.

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A way to do it without breaking things, though, would be to leave all the pages, subpages, and templates where they are, mark them as deprecated (inside

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There's the subscribers lists here and on Meta, of course, but pageviews are a necessary metric as well in case stories are getting external attention.

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is too small. In my browser, I have to enlarge the font size for the whole session, which then makes all other web pages have text that is too large.

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Clear signal from contributors to E-in-C when they are done writing, for approval - Done by the new checklist in the main article table in the Newsroom

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One final thing; I think we should consider software that's specifically geared towards managing a group. Not necessarily MediaWiki based, examples:

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would do in this situation: retract the article, blank the page, mark it as historical, with an apology for having published it in the first place.

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has, even recently, posted content that I didn't like. I did what any reader should do: I left a comment on the talk page about my disapproval.

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This is the first time I read this and I must say it is very very beautifully done, full of information and nice presentation. Very good job! --

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for this sort of thing. We don't have a second Knowledge where these two specific editors didn't bring attention to this issue. (2) As I said

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Communicates to intermittent or new contributors what they do to propose a new item - Done by the top of the Newsroom and the Quick Start page

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This would be most effective if connected to some changes in team coordination and workflow as written in the new coordination page, mostly:

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is right and Feedly's handling of HTML is more strict than other aggregators (the feed works fine in Thunderbird, for example). Feedly wants

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by all means do, and welcome to the Newsroom team! Don't be surprised if we call on you to do some housework nearer to publication deadline

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does not publish "articles" in the Knowledge sense because it does not write encyclopedic content and it is not in the mainspace. That does

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qualified to do) or you need to just keeping rowing on your small task on the team and leave it to more-informed editors to fix the issue.

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page. The data to the currently linked English language link is not correct I guess which is the reason why I am asking this question here.

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on my mobile device (see screenshot, left). Maybe an indicator of an area to spend more effort on to attract a diverse reading audience. ☆

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Seems very do-able. Thanks for the suggestion. Letting other editors/writers know about this is a little more work I think. Best Regards,

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They can ignore a particular item (complete, rejected, or postponed) - Done by the new checklist in the main article table in the Newsroom

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How can we ensure that controversial subjects / minority viewpoints can still be appropriately covered? – that there isn't too much of a

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of current Signpost issue, the link above the footer is "Single-page edition". It would be nice to have such links in archived issues:

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I don't understand; please explain. (Also, I don't think there's any problem that needs to be solved, hence I don't offer a solution.)

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Is this happening for others? Was this a deliberate change? If it is happening and was deliberate, why was this change made, and would

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Update the traffic report from the Top25. It's fairly simple cut/paste, trim the list of 25 to 10 and add dated headers as appropriate.

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All members of the Editorial Board are Editors (with the Editor-in-Chief getting to pull the trigger & several other special posts)

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for this incident, certainly not all on her own, and I'm pretty confident that dismissing her would not actually solve any problems.

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Let me know if I need to clarify anything; I'm being constantly interrupted as I type this so my phrasing is bound to be a bit rough.

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the old ones. Plus the RSS feeds would probably break if their categories get moved. Plus the publication script would need updating.

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Communicates to all contributors what a completed item entails - Done by the new checklist in the main article table in the Newsroom

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has its own mini-MoS (its ... room style?) then it's really up to the regulars who work on it what elision style they want to use.

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By the way, for proper prioritization, do we know how many RSS subscribers we actually have? Is there any way to determine this? ☆

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I'm Sam and I'm interested in doing the WikiProject report. I saw it's inactive but is there any desire to see it revived? Thanks

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This one might be on me. I added back the "copyeditors" section, and changed the colspan of "Editorial Board" as a result. Diff:

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I am aware of such things but I think a monthly tweet can be done the old-fashioned way. I'll consider it in the future, though.

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editors inside square brackets: to indicate that they weren't in the source material. If there is consensus, we can modify the

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mean that there is no rules-based reason for avoiding such commentary.If you want to take advantage of this reality, then have

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as a redirect several years ago. Personally I think it would make a great name for a musical branch of this great publication.

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Any other ideas? Marketing can obviously get spammy (duh), but I think we'll need at least a little of it in order to survive.

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would do one of those things. It is reasonable to expect something with this imprimatur not to actively offend or be hurtful.

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to write an article by oneself, but can rest assured that sticking on a tag is a sufficient lip-service to patroller's duties.

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The proposal has already met with the firm disapproval of over 70 computer scientists, including web creator Tim Berners-Lee (

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Yes, that's exactly what I've said; proof that my bluntness is required sometimes to get the point across when others prefer

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and see what discussion for the next issue is afoot. A few more tasks I suggested last month when another person asked are:

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I do think that some off-wiki tool is needed; I'm not familiar enough with Phabricator to know if it will work well enough.

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tied to a chair, etc., let me address your captors: First, keep up the good work. Second, please take away its keyboard. --

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for instance. I think the perspective of an editor who realized they made a mistake in nominating would be interesting. ☆

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A patroller thinks something might be wrong with the political correctness of this page. That patroller can't be arsed

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Thanks Evad. The error is mine. I lost my sense of time. I will leave it as is-but this article is flawed. Best Regards,

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mentionand heavy use of text search. The video, which begins with research on Koreas, reached 120 k views in two days. --

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breaking things would be to leave all the pages, subpages, and templates where they are, mark them as deprecated (inside

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did a wonderful job of transferring the hack job I did with the Newsroom Article Table into an actually usable template;

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editors disagreed with the humor article, and we did not have any recourse, would you say that is a legitimate concern?

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and my objections on the humor article. However, there should be nothing wrong with editors giving feedback on articles

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about half of all web traffic is just bots. This number has shown itself to be growing over time (sources in diff). (3)

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know that is an exaggerated number. It also does not necessarily prove the claim you are trying to make. (1) There's no

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In addition to the comments above, please also keep in mind that the "Traffic report" is an edited republication of the

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Yes I said it in many places, because this is the first time I hear the editorial staff reply to the idea, rather than

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with over 40 !votes already. To my knowledge this is the first time this has been seriously proposed in the history of

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Sorry. What I actually mean is that you need to do something in miscellaneous. So I mentioned that you can do that now.

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which we have no method of measuring as far as I am aware. (5) This conversation is really not going to get anywhere.

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to more actively determine the content (or terminate the feature?), I think your content complaints are best directed

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They can start editing a particular item's text - Done by the new checklist in the main article table in the Newsroom

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Now you've really done it. You got Cullen of all people to blow up (on multiple pages)? This is really really bad. —

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It might be worth mentioning in the "In the Media" report that we now supply cover stories to government assassins (

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TLDR: It's a tonne of work, and something(s) will probably end up breaking unless its done very, very, carefully. -

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for setting the status colours. The template for resetting (setting up a new blank version after publication) is at

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As for making the feed available via search in Feedly, I've no idea; I guess there's some way to register on Feedly?

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That's what I've got to start off this discussion, feel free to raise more ideas or points for discussion below -

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It is fundamentally improbable (aka bollocks) to suggest that blind eyes might / could / should have been turned.

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I answered this on the user's talkpage. Hope that this doesn't indicate a new widespread barrier to readership. ☆

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It's why I put the "W" in my wikipedia name - not that it worked. If I was doing it over, I'd use my initials. -

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is not the mainspace and that such quibbles may be even more pedantic here than there, so this is even less of a

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I should say one positive thing, which is on the "chooser" page, the graphics that are included in articles look

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missing here. Chris, who do you consider to be a signpost contributor? Like, get a list out beyond those listed

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Political correctness is gone too far. It's making me want to engage in an involuntary personal protein spill.

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Any and all help on column copyediting especially as we get within 3-4 days of publication at end of the month.

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that publishing what is effectively an attack piece against a marginalized community is not acceptable, and

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Fair enough. I'm just suggesting that if you retract and blank the article the deletion won't be necessary.

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I can't see the benefit of both links pointing to the same place. Wny not just unlink one of them? — Martin

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is about encyclopedic content, not personal interactions between editors; what you should be linking to is

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These are minor changes and address edge cases for a minority of readers, but they are consistent with the

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that. But if you go by E-in-C, that means something, even in an in-house rag such as SP. Dump the titles.

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Signpost linked above is still pretty small. I'll poke around to see if it uses some other header file. –

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of informative publication, then quarreling and outrage and cries of bias isn't a bug, it's a feature. -

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WP:IDONTLIKEIT. This would also give others the opportunity to help with things like basic fact-checking.

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Anybody who criticizes the writeup(s) are branded as trolls who hates Kudpung/Signpost/Wikipedia/whatever

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web-based news aggregator often returns good results. Or scan Jimbo's talkpage or Women in Red talkpage.

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newspaper article on social networks or find it on a search engine. Knowledge itself would risk to close.

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question, or what you mean is not correct, but is you by any chance wanting the non-localized link for

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but either I've already forgotten how, or I just can't find where to add the 'From the editor' column.

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to offend. And being journalistically provocative is a long way off from being deliberately offensive.

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is what is fundamentally contrary to the wiki-way, so don't mention the word 'harrass' too casually.

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I don't think DYK is feasible, but the others seem like good ideas. The watchlist notice did happen.

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sections to avoid breaking transcluded pages), and create new versions of everything for WP:Signpost/

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Your first three sentences are discredited by everything else you said. Everyone wants to fault the

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What style/finish is remaining - Done by the new checklist in the main article table in the Newsroom

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As you travel through life you will encounter attempts at humor that you find to be offensive. See

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whatever it was with Kudpung last summer. The newsletter is fine, really. You just had a bad day.

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Chris, you have been already censured by the community, a year back, for your incivility. Try to

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is monthly, while Goings-On is weekly. Not saying it couldn’t work, just something to consider. —

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E in C is vacant actually, and my contributions will be way down for the foreseeable future. The

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Follow-up: Today the European Parliament rejected the bill by a vote 318 against to 278 for. See:

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would be a good place to try posting the next issue, if the coordinators there are OK with it.

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The main changes, I think, are that the Newsroom now actually is the single centre part of the

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I would like to join the signpost team and help writing. Is there anything I could help with?

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but is not listed there? That might be a good place to start... or maybe not. Up to you! :) –

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be open to changing back to normal prose size? Thanks for any information you can provide. –

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threshold for the policy violations claimed here or in the associated deletion discussion.--

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I think it’s safe to say that by now nobody knows how most of the Signpost templates work. —

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I'm all for it and would really like to start implementing the rest of my overhaul as well!

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There is a reasonable expectation that material in a newspaper which states its purpose as

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content for it to publish, and participating in content discussions during drafting in the

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deal. Nonetheless, this talk page is for input and this is mine. Thank you for your time. —

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The E-in-C position is open to anybody who wants it. I've only ever referred to myself as

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More generally, had it ever been nominated for deletion, as all your examples show, there

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This is going to be big. Will need a good report by someone with a flair for prose.

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Kudpung's outright chilling threats to sink a steward reconfirmation over Ajraddatz's t/p

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the strong backlash to insensitive content. So I have no idea what you're crowing about.

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If you are a Wiki "insider", you probably know where to go for Discussion report tidbits.

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articles are obviously their own subpages. This gives us another interesting comparison:

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must retract this piece, and apologize for it. Because as it stands, the community told

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Communicates progress towards that goal - Done by the main article table in the Newsroom

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Discussion report seems appropriate to me, with cross referencing from In the media. ☆

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for the current Knowledge Signpost issue on Malayalam Knowledge and then link that in

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For more information on the campaign in the European Parliament and how to act, visit

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I would like to file an official apology for misattributing the checklist to Kudpung.

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What style/finish is required (e.g. title, blurb, byline; maybe also what is optional)

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How to become contributors - Done by the top of the Newsroom and the Quick Start page

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Talk:California_Republican_Party#Google_apologizes_for_spreading_Wikipedia_vandalism

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Clear signal from selector (E-in-C, I think?) that intermittent pieces are approved

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No. You can revert your edit. I will try to find the solution through village pump.

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in HTML 4.0 and is no longer supported in HTML5. An HTML5-compliant alternative is

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How to provide news tips - Done by the top of the Newsroom and the Quick Start page

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Communicates to intermittent or new contributors what they do to propose a new item

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Since it is now called just "The Signpost", shouldn't we change the page name to "

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Communicates the goal publishing date for next issue - Done by the current tracker

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need for saga, and stalking my edits (diffs available) - and it's been noticed.

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mean your input is irrelevant (of course it matters; you are the reader), but it

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As for your ideas, all sound good. I wonder if the DYK people would be receptive.

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Clear signal from contributors to E-in-C when they are done writing, for approval

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Signpost 2018-03-29 RSS reader screenshot; not our best presentation to the world

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cleanup removed existing duplicates that were on about 65% of the pages still. —

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That could be a better choice, i honestly don’t have an opinion. Also thank you

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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on a subpage of this page that is probably not watched by very many editors. –

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I am currently involved in updating the malayalam language version of the page

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not typical in news, books, etc. However, the original proponent of the idea (

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interface doesn't need to be used unless there is a problem with the script. -

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The publishing script takes care of mass messaging, locally and globally – the

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Leaky, I don't think we actually disagree. I don't think I said anywhere that

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for info on how the WPR works. There are some resources that may be useful at

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either WP:Signpost or WP:The_Signpost as preferable to WP:Wikipedia_Signpost.

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Should this go in the discussion report, news and notes, or its own article? —

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Addendum: Then again, after some thought, perhaps I am presuming too much of

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Thanks for the tip; we will cover this in the next issue's "In the media". ☆

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Article status is tracked by an extended checklist in the main Newsroom table

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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

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Or I guess, there needs to be a discussion to prevent this monthly theater.

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Yes! Please do!! We need all the help we can get. You may want to check out

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I sent out a tweet from @wikisignpost for the current issue. I'm waiting on

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It's being run by global top-tier media: Reuters, Newsweek, MSN, etc. Also

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That looks great. Can we start using it as soon as Issue 6 is published? ☆

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How to provide feedback on specific article - Not much change there, really

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for another example of attempted censorship having the opposite effect. --

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formatting. Will probably only ever be read a single time ever by anyone.

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glad to hear you are willing to lend a hand! Can I suggest starting with

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but the fact that the majority of publications don't use the more arcane

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am allowed to see?) you are extremely likely to end up experiencing the

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to the original "statement issued by the Wikimedia Venezuela chapter"?

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I'm going to put this in the discussion report which i am writing now. —

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arguing for deletion even hint that they wanted it widely disseminated.

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Whomever else it may concern - Xaosflux just opened another discussion

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Who is reponsible for issue content - Done by the new Coordination page

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Chris, are you naturally this nasty or did it take a lot of practice?

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and, when quoting another source, always include ellipses inserted by

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just now. Is it possible that the one labeled S. sinensis is actually

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Yeah, I'm currently working on a draft for a new Signpost page space:

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This has become a pattern of the Signpost under the Bri/Kudpung era.

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Oh Guy, poor you. Hopefully Nurse will be along soon to tuck you in.

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Too different. The purpose of the Signpost goes beyond mere notices.

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E-in-C. In fact if you haven't heard we've been advertising for help

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Also by the way I encourage followup for prospective team members at

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It looks like issue 2c, missing section titles, also occurs with the

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want to have it revived, so go right ahead. You may want to see the

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They can ignore a particular item (complete, rejected, or postponed)

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containing escaped HTML, but we're serving up non-escaped HTML in a

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Clear signal to readers that new issue is ready - Nothing new there

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Style cheatsheet (not started) - Same as above, for short look-ups.

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fad has been covered to death both in Knowledge and in the MSM. ‑

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If everything pans out in that "Suggestions" section, there might

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articles, I have developed two suggestions that may improve them:

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pageviews for each issue (apart from 02-05, which didn't have one)

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everytime I read your name. I am sure you get that often, though.

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editorials are subject Knowledge policies and guidelines such as

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All the links for items 1 through 3 on the upcoming issue are at

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I'll semi-repeat what I said in user talk (with some expansion):

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I second this. This article is an embarrassment to the project.

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https://www.wired.com/story/google-search-california-gop-nazism/

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PS: If anyone else wats to add a comment, the discussiion is at

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Still not sure. Would we couple this with a move to WP:Signpost/

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anymore, I will happily look over pieces before publication as

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you may have intended to make a witty rejoinder by mentioning "

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instead of the current (and out of date) WP:Knowledge Signpost/

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you and I will repeat for the third time that (as someone who

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are a bit intricate and predate my tenure as a contributor to

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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Templates/Signpost-block-start-v2

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Suggestion: Add "Single page version" link for archived issues

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https://meta.wikimedia.org/European_Parliament_vote_in_2018/en

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Regular team members start articles directly from the Newsroom

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If we're going to use an external service, we should consider

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is a system of honorary recognition and reward, befitting the

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Communicates to all contributors what a completed item entails

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To address a point that has been raised several times: A bad

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article which concerns personal pronouns has been put up for

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Don't worry about it - I wouldn't have done it any better ;)

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Any help on this? It's outside the scope of my knowledge. ☆

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Similar main page (translation) on the Spanish Knowledge:

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preventing good-faith attempts to discuss difficult topics

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not generally bound by the content policies and guidelines

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start a discussion at the VP. He did the proper thing and

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are not exactly reading the article unless they actually

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Knowledge:What Knowledge is not#Knowledge is not censored

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The most recently published articles are linked to from

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it should skip them until that template is removed. --

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Difference between 2015-01-07 and 2016-01-06 for Evad37

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and participate in shaping the content yourself, as is

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of a discussion, which incidentally is taking place at

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for each row of the table (and those templates rely on

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The concerns were constructive, the response was not.

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Knowledge:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-01-31/News_and_notes

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No more transclusions of submissions onto the Newsroom

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What to include in issue and in what order - See above

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It's been 2141:— this has been suggested and implemented. — 6688:. 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Thanks, 6228:Subscriptions to inactive users with 5387:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Archives 5226:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Newsroom 5224:If you're not sure what to do, go to 4885:Knowledge:Press coverage 2018#October 4805:Spanish gamer celebrity Alex el Capo 4801:Wiki golf to become a massive eSport? 4742:may be closer to doable, however, as 3523:(date in metadata). These all may be 3287:markup (the colons) and provide more 2845: 2790: 1621:As brought up at the dinosaur project 1494:have a look at what it looks like now 1309:Single point of entry for new writers 1235:User:Kudpung/sandbox#Recurring themes 1118:Clear signals to publication manager 639:Clear signals to publication manager 7677:Wait, I thought you were saying the 7540:Kudpung's warnings on Headbomb's t/p 6967:One problem I see with this is that 6642: 5981:I didn't find an answer anywhere in 5215: 4827:He's about ten years too late - the 4646:in detail, so it seems right up the 3768:). 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