Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/Archive 5

479:, one idea is to produce a series of posts about WikiProjects on the Wikimedia blog, aiming at increasing participation in that WikiProject by making it appealing to non-Wikipedians with an interest in that WikiProject's topic. Obviously this has a lot of similarities to the Signpost's WikiProject reports, the main difference being that it would be targeted at non-Wikipedians specialists - i.e. no knowledge of Knowledge customs can be assumed, but on the other hand interviewees would be welcome to dwell on aspects that a specialist audience finds more appealing than the average Signpost reader. (This could be as banal as namedropping, e.g. "when writing the article, I corresponded with professor X, who is considered the authority on the topic" or "band Y donated a photo of them so that we could bring the Knowledge article about them to Featured Article status".) Ideally, with a blog feature on Wikiproject Z we would generate coverage in specialist journals/magazines/websites that cater to scholars or hobbyists of Z, and thereby would motivate that audience to contribute to Knowledge, in a much more effective way than general coverage of Knowledge can. ("Oh look, these people like geeking out about Z just like me, but they do it on Knowledge!") My impression - but Mabeenot may correct me there - is that a main motivation for many WikiProject members to participate in the WP report interviews is their hope that the Signpost coverage will bring new contributors to their project. 6230:

who lack the intelligence, but I'm not convinced of that and would definitely not assume that was a significant cause of our lower retention rate. As for your assertion that we are losing both types of editor, and that overall decline is inevitable, well I disagree. We have seen a dramatic change in the editing community, many of the early adopters and pioneers have moved on, I'm pretty sure we are seeing the greying of the pedia as the average age goes up by more than a year a year. As I said it would be interesting to get some research here, but my belief is that the trend in recent years to the reversion of unsourced edits has a differential effect - those who make sourced changes are unaffected, those who make unsourced changes are driven away or just possibly start to make referenced changes. As for your idea about poor dispute handling causing problems, well yes, there are several problems on this site and dispute resolution is one of our most difficult challenges. Content disputes have long been one of the causes of good editors leaving, but I see no reason why it would be worse now than seven years ago. Such disputes only involve a minority of articles and probably the same articles or sort of articles as were contentious in 2005. So without a major change since 2005/6 how could it account for a significant part of the change in our editor retention problem?

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We do need a certain minimum number of edits simply to maintain the existing site and keep it up to date, but I'm pretty sure we are a long way above that threshold. So we could continue with our current slow decline in editing resource for some time before the pedia stopped its net improvement and started to degrade. As for the decline in the number of active admins, I'm aware of this and have been measuring it for some years. I'm not convinced our real shortage is people who could get through RFA, I think its more that plenty of good candidates have decided that the combination of the hazing at RFA and the extra hassle and scrutiny that comes to admins means that it just isn't worth standing. I've nominated several candidates in the past, but the usual response I get when I ask someone to run is that it isn't worth the hassle. I'm not convinced that content dispute moderators are the solution, or that they would find it any easier to get appointed. As for whether content disputes are more frequent now, well my experience is the opposite of yours, but the Wiki is a big complex place, it is entirely possible that I'm just lucky and yours is the more typical experience. Can you think of any way to reliably measure the dispute level over time?

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of the plan but that is, i suppose, the nature of large scale discussion and compromise to wrap it all up into something workable. wikimedia's finance & organizational structure is in its first real (conceptional) reform process in a ~decade right now and the result will frame what we can do & reasonably discuss about as a community for a long time thereafter. that's why it is important & why we cover it as we do (at least in news & notes). proper reporting by these entities where the money goes & accountability for it are major issues to be addressed in the reform and as Jarry mentioned above, there are real problems to get hold on what many wikimedia entities are doing with the resources handed over to them (funds, etc.) or generated by them via means they got from the wmf (trandemarks, etc.). random example: a report of activities in france in french by wikimedia france for its french members is fine as far as it goes but useless as far as the wider community is concerned (true for nearly all chapters on nearly all activities, if you put the annual report, usually written in very general terms, aside).

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Knowledge page. (Contrary to what was said above, only Oliver and Maggie have "Community Liaison" in their job title. The WMF is much more transparent than any other comparable organization I know, and informing the community and the public about its activities is a high priority, but the direct talk page interactions of the liaison model are just one form of that (and one that is difficult to scale to hundreds of projects and languages). And yes, we are aware that many users do not subscribe to e.g. the Wikimedia blog or mailing lists and prefer to receive announcements and news directly on "their" wiki, but we try to take that into account (just last weekend I sent out a global message to ca. 600 village pumps in order to notify all Wikimedia projects about the IPv6 launch) and are working to improve the tools for that (if you happen to be at Wikimania, you are very welcome to attend

1359:(Replying to Matthew here) - there's a difference between community liaisons and the WMF-wiki facilitators, my apologies. I haven't seen any metrics on the Teahouse, but it's not going to be shut down – like the education program, this was meant to be handed off to regular en.wiki editors. Mabeenot has a good idea though. If you have evidence or a clear idea on which the WMF is not doing a good job, we can run an op-ed (or heck, we can try to address it first with someone like Ironholds or Maggie ). As for the education program, I think you know I've been with them and can therefore confidently say that the whole intention was to transition it to an Wikipedian-led process. It's going through major revisions right now though; afaik I don't think there will be a steering or ambassador selection committee anymore, but I could be wrong, as I haven't followed discussions there in some time. 6270:" It seems worse to me. I went for much longer periods of time back then without major content disputes, and I have always tried to use good references. There are far more POV warriors now, and more tagteams, sockpuppets, etc.. They stop or hinder editing of many articles across a much wider spectrum of topics for various periods of time, and they don't care about the quality of references as long as their POV is topmost in an article. Content dispute resolution now seems worse then it was back then. Admins got more personally involved back then. But there aren't enough admins now to do that. They don't have the time. There is a lack of admins due to the lack of enough people able to get through the much more difficult admin approval (hazing) process. What is needed are content dispute moderators. See 1768:@Mdennis_(WMF) - my questions were never answered. The plagiarizing/copyvideo Online Ambassador is still on the "Online Ambassador Selection Committee" and advertises herself as such - even though I've been given to understand that in actuality it no longer exists. Nothing constructive seems to be happening regarding the Education Program foisted on the en:wp community by the WMF. As for my "confusion", everything I did was recommended to me by my mentor at the time, or some other "higher up". No one seems clear about these theoretical distinctions about WMF roles, except that apparently WMF people can't be helpful to en:wp editors. And the Education Program is left spinning. 6183:

interface to prompt newbies for a source when they add content or change sourced material. But we have increased our standards in recent years and that has made us more elitist. It would be interesting to run some research to see the different retention rates of new editors over time divided by whether they cite reliable sources. My hope is that we are seeing a shift to a slightly smaller editor base but with better sourcing of the new material that sticks. If we had a deteriorating retention rate amongst those whose edits demonstrate a good understanding of sourcing then I'd agree that we have an editor retention problem.

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these things? The few other responses to the one "near" me have been that it's too far away, and question asked as to why they don't hold these near major population areas? It is being held in an obscure corner of my state, far from most metropolitan centers. In any event, I see the same few people going to those things and it just makes outsiders like me feel more outside. There is no WMF chapter within a couple of thousand miles from me. And they're the one's that spend the money. I'd like to know what they spend it on. My question about whether there are ever neutral audits of their finances wasn't answered.

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and I recently discussed with Jan about improving upon that. I am (and probably others are too) always on the lookout for suggestions vis-a-vis what we don't give enough coverage too. (By contrast, I think it's unfair to argue about what we give too much coverage to: whilst you may not have been particularly interested in the women's meetup in Brazil, a sizable majority of editors consider editor retention the most important issue facing Wikimedia wikis at the moment. More often that not, negative details are also included which may not otherwise have found a route to the public domain.)

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than usual pageview numbers for us and some good feedback over at the Wikimedia blog. They'd like to develop some fresh content that could either coincide with or build off of our WikiProject Reports, with a link to us included in their post. I mentioned that this summer I'd like to run some Reports on sports projects around the Summer Olympics, Tour de France, and other events which the folks at the Foundation thought were interesting. There was never any talk of transcluding or altering the Report in any way. It could be a great way to direct more traffic toward the

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inevitable no matter what we do, then there is even more need for faster, friendlier content dispute resolution. Faster, friendlier content dispute resolution is also something that educates editors in the process. So it helps with two problems: getting better-sourced content faster, and making editors more intelligent as to sourcing and polite content dispute resolution. Both of those make for a group atmosphere for getting things done. Getting things done makes people proud, and makes them want to stay more. We need moderators. See

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concern this will get all messed up on some older browsers. A good idea is to try and get it like an actual newspaper, or maybe like one's website. Again, anybody who feels they are good with code edit my sandbox (linked above) and we can discuss it here; I'm trying to encourage active discussion, rather than just insisting on what you don't want. As we pretty much all agreed we need a new front, we need to all help design it! Come on people, I can only do so much by myself. Join in.

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501(c) corporation and open a chapter if I want one. Seriously. So chapters thousands of miles away from me get to spend all the money - even though my state is the third largest in population in the US. So I have no means of having input. Some statistic above said that a poll showed that something like 43% of editors didn't know about chapters. Well, why should they? The chapters are for the special few. Most of the US is not within reach of a chapter. We have no representation.

1736:? Again, how was I supposed to know? And you wonder why new editors have a hard time. And the link I was given to the pages listing personnel on outreach or meta (or wherever) doesn't seem to include him. (Maybe it does, since he has a new name that I didn't know about.) Besides, most of those people are inaccessible, few have any presence on en:wp and I'm not important enough to be allow to post on that page. And emailing them is very ineffective, I have found. 3547:). Since it's an English Knowledge specific accomplishment, they felt like it might be appropriate to let the community take point on writing up the event. Naturally, that immediately leads to thought of the Signpost. :) Would you guys be interested in writing something about it, when it happens, that could be published both on the blog and in the Signpost? (With some variations in the versions, as the blog's 699:. It's just hard to find out who they are and what they are doing because they don't conduct business on en:wp. The Online Ambassador selection process is still not transparent. The online ambassador that couldn't get an article through GAN with two different reviewers because of copyvio and plagarism is still on the Ambassador Selection Committee. I know that an Education Program is being cooked up in 4569: 2517: 2550: 4890:

incompetence in technical management. It is not to much to ask that the community who reads this paper be able to do so under the title it has used for a long time. It would be very harmful if somehow the ambiguity about the title were ever injected in broader media. The name is not "Signpost", "The Knowledge Signpost", or "Knowledge Signpost" - I propose creating a strong brand identity for

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think that the motivation of many newcomers to create new articles (encouraged by the foundation's mindset)—rather than to do the hard yards by improving existing articles—might have featured more scientifically in the "guiding research question" of "Why is Knowledge failing to retain new editors?". So I find the scope of problematising rather narrow for the claims made in the abstract.

1956:(that's four installments in a pilot that was four months long... :) ) as well. Our pilot report is near completion and we'll ping ya'll when it finalized :) I think you'll be excited about it as we are and we are also very proud of it! So happy to hear that folks are interested in following up about the pilot and we look forward to the next exciting phases of the Teahouse. 1498:

reading the minutes of these meetings just shows they are getting no where and they didn't even hold a "monthly meeting" in May. They are always sending each other email (see SarahStriech's page) where an editor turns down a request to email, saying he wants things to happen in wiki.) They depend on email and I suspect on IRC. I don't think they want the rest of us to know.

1898:?" intersting, i wasn't aware of this and would be grateful, if you could provide some diff.-links here, Mathew. if i remove a brief note from news & notes for example (don't recollect to have done so in relation to this tool but i could be wrong), i usually have a good reason and i'm always prepared to explain it in concrete terms, best regards -- 5652:

still don't know there is important discussion of the issues themselves in the Signpost. Knowledge seems clueless about getting more people involved in discussion of issues. Same as the difficulties in getting more discussion at the village pumps. Inadequate software, poor publicizing of the issues, no watchlisting of individual threads, etc.. --

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I am the right person to assume a role as important and prestigious as this makes me much more confident, despite my own concerns about inexperience. This has been open for less than 24 hours though, so I'll wait for another couple days to ensure that this consensus holds. If it does, I'd find it hard to decline such an honor.

453:. (I'm really not getting the "quid pro quo" remark - what would you have thought if we had demanded certain things from "the Signpost" in return for these links?!) We want to promote Signpost stories more often in this way, although of course not all of them are suitable for the much more general audience on Facebook etc. 2753:, it's a winner to have a small thumbnail, I believe, perhaps to the right of the listed page names and short headlines. This week, I saw the Phil Gomes pic at the paid editing story and thought it would be one of a number that could be suitable. NAN or ITN would normally provide the obvious choices, though. 6161:

Tony. Newcomers have the same problems whether they are editing new articles or existing articles. "Professionalizing the product" is not the problem. Knowledge produces a good product given enough editing. But it takes forever to resolve many content disputes, and so in many cases not enough editing

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focused on Wikis, and put together with the support of the Wikimedia Foundation, and specifically Oliver Keyes, Maryana Pinchuk, and Steven Walling. However, I can't find that it's been reported on in the Signpost. Have I just missed it? If so, I'd be grateful if someone could point me to it. If not,

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about the Knowledge Community and its members than the Signpost? My main hangup would be given our timelines, information is copyedited but not exactly fact checked. Still, I think the Signpost does have a reputation for accuracy within the community. Interesting question... Would it be better to

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Historically we've only run opinion pieces from established editors for two reasons. First, if it's being published elsewhere, the author already has a distrubutor, and copyright (among other things) becomes an issue, and second (and more importantly) the vast majority of commentary on Knowledge from

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If you could, would you add that to the opinion desk so that anyone watching that page and view and comment? Assuming we hit the four million mark in June, I believe we'll have room for it – if it runs into July, we have a few outside (ie non-Wikipedian) op-eds planned + Wikimania stuff to deal with.

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to be any overlap between the two stories at all, if that's a concern. I'm just not wanting to ask too much of you guys. :D Two somewhat separate stories would be perfectly fine, if that's not too much to ask. The main goal here, I believe, is to celebrate the event and to give voice to the community

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I'm with Jarry here. Putting everything in one small frame is a bad idea, as it's not easy to read. Assuming it's technically possible, I'd like a 'real' front page, and if we get a workable design, we could change the section names at the same time (assuming there's consensus for that). For those, I

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I was told by a "helpful" wiki-bash organizer to hold my own wiki-bash for myself and another editor with 83 edits who may live a few hours drive from me. I checked the four editors who are going to the wiki-bash in my state. They've all been on wikipedia six or seven years. And wikipedia is serious

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We operate independent of the WMF. A lot of your arguments are actually completely fallacious and unfounded, you seem to be forgetting that the WMF manages over 800 wikis in many different languages, their job is primarily administrative and technical. First and foremost, it is to keep things running

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Should I continue to spend most of my wiki time reading this stuff at their various locations (and most of it is in wiki-speak, so not very clear) in a continued effort to understand? Rather than continue to contribute to the encyclopaedia? (I gave up meaningful contributions meanwhile.) And what one

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So no. More blather from WMF folks is not what I want. It's feel good, happy face stuff from my point of view while the real problems are not being addressed. When I know that WMF spends money on a couple of editors in a Brazil bash who don't even edit on en:wp, it doesn't make me happy. I could go

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to be a liaison between them and WMF, or with en:wp (not clear what his role is). But although Consumer Reports is a "nonprofit", that does not mean they are a charity or eschew making money. A 501c corporation (like Knowledge is) is a tax status (I ran one myself), and means that you will allocate

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For example, are we going to get the promised (so-called) "metrics" on the Teahouse project, now that it's theoretically over and the grant money spent. We were promised to get monthly updates, but I haven't received any. And I'm really curious about the Education Program, which aside from complaints

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and the Signpost have different audiences as well - the Signpost is written for the community, while the blog has to cater to an audience that can't be assumed to know what "GA or FA status" is, to pick a random example from a past WikiProject report. For that reason alone, we wouldn't want to simply

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than many of you folks. If I had been online earlier, I would have commented something to the effect of 'maybe, assuming many more people think I'm the right one for the job...' Apparently many more people do, though. I think you're all crazy. ;-) But more seriously, thank you – knowing you all think

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Basically, there's no point reporting to users about cases that are highly unlikely to be taken on-board by the Arbs. Most readers generally don't want expanded information on the other aspects of ArbCom, aside from motions, unless said requests involve contentious cases, like Race and Intelligence.

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No, not at all. Some of the people we will lose simply can't be bothered to tell us how they know a fact, and won't look things up in a library even if it was 5 minutes walk away. Others would love to but don't have access to reference sources. Some may lack the education, and perhaps there are some

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Going from micro in to macro in the abstract, Sue Gardner has already made this point publicly a number of times over the past year without having to rely on numerical data; I'd have suggested framing the hypothesis explicitly in terms of testing the foundation's assumptions (while that's just icing

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I agree that it's not a pretty option, but as a regular reader I keep finding that I have to nudge myself not to skip subpages solely on account of my lack of interest in the first item alone. Perhaps, instead of appending "In brief" (which is uninformative), a one- or two-word bullet-point for each

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I have heard from several readers that they would prefer it if the research newsletter came out twice as often (fortnightly) but with half the length. Unfortunately, this would probably mean that the organizing/editorial work takes up more time altogether for the same amount of content, and I don't

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You only think it's mildly satirical because it falls so far outside of your viewpoint that you struggle to accept that it's written in seriousness. I'm dead serious, we have four million pages and hundreds of thousands of them are utter crap. But yes, if you want to run it side by side with someone

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finance: the money flows (and the coverage of it) as it does largely because an open community-process decided 2009/10 to invest donors money in the then called "global south" (among other things; and the plan agreed upon runs until 2015). i never met a person that is entirely happy with all aspects

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Your links to "a more comprehensive sumary of WMF work go to "happy talk" blogs with individual "happy incidents" - no information about overall program metrics there. And readers can't post there, to ask questions or give reactions. What is the point of those links, except to show overall reports

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Sounds to me like you've got an Op-Ed in the works. As Knowledge's newspaper, we ought to play a watchdog role. A little opinion piece asking the WMF for metrics or questioning the use of funds or requesting progress reports or arguing that the Foundation hides some failures may draw a response from

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So cutting out the WMF for a moment, the principal on-wiki material we cover on a regular basis are the arbs, featured content, and tech updates. We are missing the discussion report on a regular basis, which I think would satisfy most of your concerns in this area. The person who wrote it last week

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The interesting question is really: what are we not covering? Certainly, we did not cover watchlist bolding, but we do cover the New Pages Feed and have done so on various occasions, albeit in the Tech Report. Some chapters' activities (basically those that don't blog in English) are poorly covered,

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That's good, I'm writing this week's report (as a one-off) and wouldn't mind some extra traffic coming in from other venues. I too want to stay independent of the foundation, but Mabeenot gives some good points above which we are stuck with, although I don't think they will. Incidentally, can I just

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Wikimania is coming up (12–15 July). It will need to be covered, presenting unusually high demand for efficient communications with participants and for executive decisions on journalistic priorities. We're faced with major changes in the movement, not least of which are the creation of the chapters

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I'm speaking of any changes that would benefit from frequent purges. The issue that got my attention was cached transclusions. Some of the behavior of templates changes when the next signpost is created and/or when its scheduled creation date passes. If these are cached and the caches are stale,

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Hi Timeshifter I was responding to your comment "If the decline in the number of active editors is inevitable no matter what we do," and yes when I said "your assertion that we are losing both types of editor, and that overall decline is inevitable" I meant decline in the overall number of editors.

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Many people skim the single-page edition, and may never notice the discussion links (if any). Or think they are typical article discussion pages that talk about building the articles, references, etc.. Not for discussion of the issues themselves. Have to be explicit, explicit, explicit. Many people

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This is because the date wasn't originally in the header masthead; that spot used to contain "News and notes" or similar. That info has since been made a subhead and the date is in the masthead for consistency with the issue front page. Strictly, the date under the headline is unnecessary, but it's

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My first reaction was to wonder whether including lede snippets was just a way to bulk up the page and make it less evident that there are 1/3 fewer articles than the previous edition. I will probably ignore the snippets and just continue to read the columns that I follow and ignore the ones that I

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to be aesthetically repulsive. I like each of the subtopics featured in this collection but it is intimidating to click on this because it contains several unrelated articles and I do not want to read them all at once. Also I think that each unrelated topic is not being fairly titled because it all

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and the WMF blog at the same time? My major thought is that if we hit the mark on a Tuesday, I'd really not like to rerun what was in the WMF blog days before (we publish each week on a Monday; the blog does things all week), but I suppose we could just write up two somewhat separate stories... let

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is a bit more general, but the basic information could be much the same for both.) They'd want to be prepared to get it published as soon as reasonably possible after the big moment, of course. Maybe some of the support materials could be prepared in advance? The details would be forthcoming, but I

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I also like it. Tony, the page name changes have to be made in the SP itself, not the new front page. We could start those anytime, but seeing as this is close to fruition, I think it'd be easier to change it over all at one time. Graham, I'm not sure I understand you, but I'm about 75% sure that's

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I stormed out of French classes age 16 when the teacher was unspeakably rude to me and didn't know I was doing music as an extra for the finals. I know an en.WPian who's got good French, so will ask him privately. And he has written occasionally for the SP. Without wanting to pre-empt Ed's views on

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and one to look into what we got out of the wmf's Cairo pilot. as far as i know the state of non-substance (in the signpost's sense) until july is true for the working group to reform the us program as well. unsurprisingly, given this group will meet f2f for the first time mid july and i was rather

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is one of Knowledge's core guidelines, if you see something that isn't right be bold and change it, discussion will often get buried under layers upon layers of discussion. The staff lists are probably admin-edit-only, if you notice that it's not accurate raise the issue on the relevant talk pages.

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I would consider an opt-ed piece except that I'm so sick of the whole WMF thing after trying to figure it out for several months, that I can't make myself continue to follow it on the various blogs, WMF sites, WMF personnel with unknown jobs almost all taking place off wiki - so they just published

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Whose taking over Teahouse? e.g. requiring a minimum of 5 hours a week spent on Teahouse to be a "host" and some huge number of "invites" distributed weekly to carefully select "new" editors who often weren't technically "new". I recall comments that it was very labor intensive, considering the few

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work for WMF. I had no clue until yesterday. No, I'm no longer willing to run around to various blogs and WMF sites to try to piece together conflicting information. (For a while I spent a good part of my wiki time doing that and ended up by understanding nothing. It is all that wasted time I spend

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the Education Program doing since it was dumped by WMF on en:wp? What does the WMF Liason Person have to say. (I'm always surprised that these liaison people (except for the wonderful Oliver/Okeyes (WMF) ),don't actually communicate en:wp. And if they do make a communication, the links generally go

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and Matthew Roth have asked if the Foundation could contact some of the projects I'm interviewing for Reports to see if they could conduct follow-up interviews to run on the Wikimedia blog. Apparently, they've linked to our content in the past as part of their own research, resulting in some higher

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to provide independent coverage. The journal has significant potential to evolve as a key forum for documenting the movement's narratives, but it needs to attract more journalists into the team and to extend its reach among the WMF's projects; a managing editor is going to be an important factor in

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This assumes that there is a lack of people intelligent enough to use good sources. There are plenty of such people in my opinion. But they are leaving as well as people who are not so intelligent. They are both leaving, or editing much less often. If the decline in the number of active editors is

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It's not an independent source, just like a university newspaper isn't an independent source. Especially about the foundation projects. All the meet ups and such are portrayed in such a happy light. Everyone enjoyed everyone. If there was "controversy" as in the Berlin one a while ago, then it was

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is certainly a secondary source like any other is. As for reliability, why not treat it like any other small newspaper or large blog? Knowledge pages may be "everybody can edit" but in practice, there's very little editing other than for grammar b/c the articles are published under bylines. The

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is community-written and community-edited, like pretty much everything on Knowledge. The current editor, like several before him, is pseudonymous. I don't see how this adds up to the sort of editorial oversight and fact-checking that we expect for garden-variety sourcing, much less for contentious

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which I think are news events with relevance beyond Knowledge, and should it happen that any big story break in this publication - and I think that will happen soon and with increasing frequency - then it would be embarrassing to start correcting misunderstandings about the name because of amateur

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But the alternative is to pack a reference to everything into the title. Gigantic titles are not good. We rely on the assumption that regular readers know that the title covers only the top one or two (sometimes three) stories, and that new readers will explore. Putting "In brief" into every title

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Well, this is why we asked for feedback! The section headers are now linked. @Ningauble, the number of articles fluctuate per week depending on how much news happens in a week, how many specials we have, and the segments running (eg. the discussion report is biweekly, and recent research is once a

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I suppose it's a question of how much impact we'd like the change to have. If Jarry works out any bugs, we could do it as soon as this week, but there's an argument for holding off until Wikimania to show off what we're doing to improve our readers' experiences to the wiki movement. There's also a

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page so long as we can continue calling them reports in the actual articles. When the WikiProject Report references its past reports or notes interesting developments in the actual interviewing or newsgathering process, it makes for less confusion to say "the WikiProject Report" than simply saying

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As for page names, HaeB and I tossed around, without conclusion, simply a shortening rather than wholesale change in all but one case; mostly, this involved removing what might be considered redundant and repetitive words; this would be the opportunity to make the names more easily distinguishable

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I've got it checked in my preferences to hid them. Yet they continue to appear. I close them each time. Yet they still appear. Who sets these up? Who decides to hold them far away from population centers, especially in a state that is thousands of miles from a "Chapter". I was told to open my own

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I wouldn't care what WMF does, except that it "fund raises" constantly and uses the money who know how, but expects the vast, unpaid, working community to write the encyclopedia and take on the burdens of their "programs" like the Education Program. I feel they are taking advantage of well meaning

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If the "bashes", (wiknics) are not affiliated with the WMF, why does a banner about them keep appearing on my computer window? Who decides where they are held? Anyway, the one nearest to me is an eight hour drive. Only four people signed up. Do they ever consult the community as to where to hold

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And I never did get a clear answer to my education program question that I spent several months asking, after Mdennis_(WMF) couldn't help because of "rules" about his/her role. They just keep holding more monthly meetings where nothing seem to happen. I got an invitation to one a few days ago. But

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As far as the Teahouse project, where is the report and the "metrics". I'm assuming that WMF "declared" it was a success. But there were supposed to be bona fide "metrics", collected using scientific experimental design. How many new editors were retained? Whatever the number was, was it worth the

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etc.—situations that involve editors here on en:wp) are left out or buried in a mountain of WMF announcements. (This is the way it seems to me. I don't want to read where all the WMF people have traveled to, and what a good time 20 or 30 participants had in Brazil.) Besides the PR stuff, little is

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Signpost has about the same reliability status as any other blog which doesn't have a respected publisher or author behind it. In general, this doesn't matter much since ready alternatives will be available - most Signpost content will refer to other sources that can be used as primary sources if

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Agreed! Dislike ""continued→"; it's in the same vein as "more". Definitely suggest making the section headings clickable. The lead in text is hard to read, squeezed into two columns like that. And I'm very likely just to skip an article if the lead in is not of interest to me (e.g. the Technology

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More specifically about Bluerasberry's comments, I'd like to point out that the report is actually already quite neatly divided into subsections. That it is indeed somewhat intimidating to navigate is partly because of the lack of a table of contents (TOC's are suppressed by the Signpost's layout

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I'm quite possibly getting too far ahead of myself, but Jarry, can we get a poll for the new format when it goes live? I'm thinking that I could write a "From the editor" describing the new changes and including the poll + ways to give us specific feedback. I'm not opposed to having a note on the

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My two cents: not yet. Attention is a precious thing, and my preference would be not to direct your readership's attention to the current discussion when it hasn't gotten anywhere yet. We may be able to get people to have a look once; fewer people will be willing to look twice, so if they don't

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You're also saying, "How come I can't..." or "Why can't I...", it's not about you, it's about the wider community and it's the community that we cater to. If your information was removed check the page's edit history and raise the issue with the editor-in-charge of the Signpost article, which you

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While I share your views on the points of grammar, I don't think this is really material here, nor does it invalidate the work the researchers and Foundation staff put into it. As for the rest, this was a major study, and while you personally may feel parts of it could have been done better, you

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change, and the suppressive effects of the natural maturing of the project and the inevitable filtering process in professionalising the product (you can't have a professional product without turning off amateurs, at least those who aren't open to improving their own skills). And I'm inclined to

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I do agree it feels quite cramped by about the fourth indent (it's similar to the problem we get with looking at discussion pages on the mobile site). Differentiation is good, but this method interacts badly with our usual way of handling discussions. Rather than force the right margin, could we

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for, but not what was claimed in this case, that the ban was for "decided bias and disruptive behavior". In my experience, the WPian community hears something different (and milder) from those words than, say, an academic community would understand from them if a professor were terminated from a

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OK, OK. We'll drop the scrollbar idea. Feel free to edit my sandbox and change anything you like, add new ideas. What would you like then? I can't redesign it if you don't tell me everything you want. The Ed17 suggested columns with a little of each article in it, and a picture, but there is the

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And is there ever an outside, independent audit of WMF and chapter finances? To me they seem like the GAO in the US, only WMF bashes aren't in Los Vegas, but in politically-correct places like Seattle, New York and now St. Augustine - a hard to reach section of Florida, far from almost all major

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May I ask for comments on the extent to which others think that this is an important and timely issue? What is the scope of the problem - must all articles ever written be renamed? Is there anyone here who can propose a plan for fixing this, even if they themselves could not implement the plan?

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A problem with the new frontpage content is that most subpages cover multiple items (including "In brief" lists). So the introductory text on the frontpage tends to mislead you into thinking that the subpage only covers the first (main) item. Each week, I have to remind myself to check relevant

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OK, yep, I've thought this for a long time. I'd like Jarry's opinion on the technical side. But much less technical would be a re-think of our page names. HaeB and I went through them on IRC last year and thought about shorter, snappier names, plus removing the duplicated "news" from two of the

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as far as i know: the interested community decides where to held them and how they are held. if you live in a place without such an event, it is my understanding that you are free to set one up as you see fit. on the banner-question: meta is arguing over this very question for days now; see for

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and click on the user page links - admittedly, many of these descriptions were only added last month, as part of a push by the WMF human resources department to have everybody's job description out there, but by now I don't think this is hard to find - that page is just two clicks away from any

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Yes, I tried to get help from her/him with my problem, but because I contacted her/him after posting on Moonriddengirl's page (or visa versa - can't remember which - I didn't know they were the same person - I was ineligible for help. So I spent a month or so trying to get answers and info from

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I'm with Tony on this. Typos and vandalism are getting harder to find, but if you do deal with them the pedia is as welcoming as ever. When it comes to adding content we are far less welcoming of unsourced and poorly sourced content, I'd like us to be nicer about that, and I'd like the editing

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Don't like the blurbs under the section headings. Mostly they are a long string of text and if I don't like what's there I won't bother to click through. Also, for Featured content, the long dull blurb (enough already with the Beatles) is like the long dull blurb that appears with the Featured

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Chapters are much more complicated. I'll just note that the US is unique in not having a country-wide chapter, though I'm not sure as to the exact reason why the first US chapter, WMNYC, decided to only include that region. (I'm more experienced with on-wiki matters, not WMF or chapter topics)

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education: the wmf us education program is not below my radar as well but in my understanding stuff with substance to get into - results, reports etc. - won't be on the table before july. if i'm right, Ed has in the light of this scheduled two specials on education. the one on the us program i

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In July 2011 I started working as a contractor for the Wikimedia Foundation, supporting movement communications, and became a regular employee in May 2012. See also my work account. Although I work for the Wikimedia Foundation, contributions under this account are exclusively in my individual,

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Once desirable newcomers are detected, Knowledge should develop effective mechanisms to reach out to them. The ways of reaching out that are most reliably successful are human-to-human: an experienced Knowledge contacting a newcomer to establish a supportive relationship. However, the current

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Sven, what would you think of running that mildly critical article set off against something positive written by, say, someone from the WMF? (note that I'm speaking off the cuff and haven't actually asked anyone to see if this is possible, just throwing ideas out to people for consideration).

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user, I find it annoying that the headings aren't in the right place semantically. The bold text "News and Notes" should not be part of the heading entitled "Is the Requests for adminship process 'broken'?", the "Discussion report" text should not be part of the "News and notes" heading, etc.

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Back to my original proposal, for the new front page rather than the new report names: is everyone happy for it to be taken to that, or not? Suggest new changes to the one I put forward on 6 May. Unless anyone has any objections, I think I'll do it this time tomorrow, in time for publication.

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that some of the traffic from the maps article came from the Foundation's Facebook, Twitter, and Identi.ca postings, which linked to the maps article. I understand your concern about remaining independent of the Foundation and ensuring our content is not overshadowed by the Foundation's blog.

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of the details of a project. Rather, you have volunteers collaborating, some of whom generate some details and some of whom generate others. Is this an editorial process whereby a fact, not established in any other media source, but culled from diffs, arguments on Wiki etc., will with some

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I'm sorry to see you hold that view Mathew, but I'm not sure it's entirely accurate. When we do happen to cover meetups, I fail to see where any newsworthy controversy would come from. I'd be interested in hearing where you think such negativity could arise from. With regards to Berlin, if

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If someone's "editing of foundation projects" hasn't been a significant enough part of their life / notability to be covered in a reliable source then there's no reason to be mentioning those activities in the article at all. If it has been covered in a reliable source then use the source.

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It's not the first time this has been mentioned, and I personally understand the issue at stake. I know HaeB will want to comment, but I think going forward - specifically as even more research is done into Knowledge - it's going to be necessary to decouple the research newsletter and the

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Well, with any redesign, we're going to take it slow so we don't find that it's broken twenty minutes after publishing. :-) We'll aim for the first edition in June – hopefully Jarry will have rough coding together by next week, and we'll talk it over and refine it over the next week or so.

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Let's face it, of course the Teahouse isn't going to be shut down. It's already be "declared" a success no matter what. After all, it's another WMF project inflicted on the community. They're just trying to come up with the statistics for their theoretically "scientifically designed data

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Sorry to intrude, but I read this and noticed you are enquiring about a cover photo for your Facebook page. I have designed many for various other profiles/fan pages, and don't mind offering my services here too if you wish. Let me know rough ideas of what you'd like to be on the cover

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Friends, it's been quite a while since Skomorokh announced his departure from the position, to our regret. Things have been swimming along since, but in the long term we do need someone to make the final call on difficult decisions and to be a point of contact with the outside world.

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because I don't use a screen reader. To me, there's a column on the left with "Investigative report" (break) "Is the Requests for adminship process 'broken'?" (break) text text text (break break) "News and notes" (break) "Ground shifts while chapters dither over new Association" etc.

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collection" process. Then they'll dump it on the working community like they did with the education program. The comments on Sarah's talk page in response to her request for feedback were sparse and many had a negative tone, despite all the upbeat pr. Was the community ever consulted

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Knowledge has changed from "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit" to "the encyclopedia that anyone who understands the norms, socializes himself, dodges the impersonal wall of semiautomated rejection and still wants to voluntarily contribute his time and energy can edit". ...

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That said, I wouldn't be opposed to creating a real front page, should it be easy enough to do. Of course, most readers subscribe via their talk pages, so creating something short enough to post directly onto people's talkpages (with different header/footer, duh) is probably

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outside of Knowledge is by loons, either POV pushers (like the above linked person), banned users, or just sloppy bloggers who want something to boost their search engine index but can't be arsed to understand what they're writing about (also like the above linked person).

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More traffic would be excellent: I noticed with surprise that the maps report three weeks ago gained well over 2000 hits. But let's make sure this is a quid pro quo. The foundation wants to lift its profile as a journalistic outlet, and this shouldn't be at the expense of

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It didn't happen due to time constraints. This seemed to work just fine, though. I'll highlight the change this week, probably with a call for feedback on how we're doing and where we can improve. It never hurts to give people an outlet to express their views, after all.

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It's not a typo, but an embarrassing spelling mistake (read/read; lead/led) in the very public abstract. I encounter it all the time among native speakers—professional researchers are serial offenders. And "Despite" is illogical in the second sentence, which should be

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I agree with you, WSC, which is why I wanted to run Sven's piece as a counterpoint to what will be the dominant narrative, while at the same time giving due time to what I'm sure will be the theme to all the regular news stories about the event (aka: mostly positive).

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I missed your reply Jarry, but if you have the time after your trip, would you like to work on getting the new format together for this week's edition? Custom-crafting the front page for the first few editions sounds good. I wouldn't like an 11th hour surprise. :-)

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I'm sorry if I you felt I wasn't able to help you, Matthew, but you seem to have gotten this a bit confused. :) I didn't tell you that you were ineligible for help; I detailed to the best of my ability what help I could give you in my staff role at our conversation

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That's not the article, but I'll have to look around to find the one I mean. (This is no reflection on you, Ed, (you are good!) and the article I mean was published before you became managing editor. That article was the first clue that there even were chapters!

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It's called the "Opinion Desk" for a reason. Also, your personal insults are not welcome. Being an "established user" does not exempt you from civility rules. The fact that you want to link your own blog (and push your own POV) completely defeats your argument.

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A custom poll is fine by me; but do remember that only a minority of readers actually ever see the front page. I'm actually away from tomorrow until a week tomorrow, so I won't be able to have it set up in time for Monday's issue alas, though you could invite

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Hi Matt. Interestingly, we will be addressing at least one of your concerns in the near future. The Teahouse (afaik) is working quite well, which in our case means that there's not much news beyond 'hey, the Teahouse is working quite well!', heh. I believe we

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Pretzels, how hard would it be to have a bot copy the necessary templates into new pages and remove "Knowledge"? I agree that modifying all of the existing templates would be difficult and extremely time-consuming, but I wonder if this way would be possible.

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On the maintenance front, it's probably best to think in terms of "Take as much first story from each report as you can fit in this design and then put continued links at the end". I don't think we want to be creating much of an extra burden on editors in

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I'm not sure if this appropriate for the Signpost since it is more about the general web than about Knowledge, but this link is to an article on how items on the web are disappearing (and doing it faster than I expected) which impacts our external links:

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occurs in a timely way. There are 2 main reasons for that in my opinion. One; lack of friendly, quick, content dispute resolution. Two; lack of something as simple as the ability to watchlist individual discussions on talk pages. They are discussed here:

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Thanks for the help. Benzband has translated the interview questions and we've asked Vlaam over at the French Knowledge to review the questions before we start inviting interviewees. This is coming together a lot faster than I thought it would. Exciting!

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it (sandbox 2). You might consider "more" instead of "continue". And (1) is there a possibility that we might have a thumbnail in the talk-page notifications the bot sends around, and (2) could we implement the non-controversial page-name changes?

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via irc as well as to Mabeenot by mail but Rcsprinter123 (rightfully) pointed out that the wikiproject report, thanks to its format, is not able to deal with the special features that distinguish between a regular project and this wmf-backed

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I think that would be a nice idea. As I understand it the Single-page versions are transclusions of the articles themselves, so archived versions would be transclusions of the main content, so seeing this implemented wouldn't be very hard.

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I'm open to suggestions on how to link them more prominently on this wiki. However, if one spends "months" trying to find out about how an organization spends its money, it might be a good idea to visit its homepage at least once. Regards,

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Well, if we hide it but everyone continues to use the same syntax, we can easily reinstate it. So yeah, I've boldly gone ahead and hidden it. That said, I wonder if we might tempt editors to use it for "time of writing"? Just a thought. -

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strikes me as a bit tired, and probably harks back to our origins as an internal newsletter rather than the only regularly published outlet in the whole movement that has the potential to cover a complex environment in journalistic terms.

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being updated and there is a drive underway to make sure that all staff members have pages. But mine, for example, has been posted since I got the job at my user page on this and almost every other language project, Knowledge and sister

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in the Signpost. I'm not saying that there couldn't be more current coverage, but it is quite natural that a news publication like the Signpost gives a novel model more attention than one that has already been in widespread usage for a

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If we are gong to have some criticism I think it needs to be balanced by celebration and put into context. After all, despite the introduction of BLPprod and the drift to deletionism, we've now built a 4 million article encyclopaedia.

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I do too. I thought he has already taken over the role; he wrote this week's comment in the newsroom, but if it wasn't official then I'm all for it. Why did Skomorokh decide to leave again? (I'm terribly ill-informed on these things.)

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would be a very attractive option with the Tour de France and Summer Olympics next month. I could use a bilingual partner to help approach and communicate with the project's members. You'll get to be in the byline. Anyone interested?

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You mean this discussion page, or just the general comments section? I don't know why you'd want them on a frontpage like at /Issue, because they're article specific. That said, I can see why you'd want link from single-page-view. -

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Just so we're on the same hymnsheet, it'll be easiest if the first couple are manually crafted. Then, when the design is finalised I'll make the bot dump in a "default" front page which can then be tweak as and when necessary. -

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report). In the other format, I clicked on the whole report, and most likely would see something on the article somewhere that enlightens me. Just my preference, as I read by skimming, unless something particularly grabs me.

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mentoring system in Knowledge has been relatively unsuccessful, and unable to achieve scale (Musicant, 2011). Knowledge should explore novel ways of reaching out effectively to its most valuable resource: quality newcomers.

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I generally read the Signpost in the single-page version, looking at the comments only for certain articles. A single-page archive and a collection of the article comments would, therefore, be quite handy to have. Thanks.

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Maybe there could be a combination of a narrower right sidebar and some kind shading of that sidebar. Other possibilities could be narrower left or right sidebars, combined with shading of the sidebar and/or text background.

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association and the extraordinary shift to FDC-allocated funding for some 36 chapters and others. The movement is newly awash with money, staff, and projects. This changing landscape presents unprecedented opportunities for

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The Wikinics are set up by regular Wikipedians who decide to list whatever location they want and see if people attend. You could set one up for your city and see if anyone would like to go, although it's a bit late in the

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The long-term integrity of this newspaper is greatly dependent on its brand identity. It is not respectable to have an ambiguous name for a publication. I brought this up because lately there have been some stories in

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Whoa, this is more support than I would have dreamed for a proposal like this. I've been a bit wary of trying to be an editor-in-chief over the last few weeks, even unofficially, because I have less experience at the

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money paid to the Project Manager for her six month grant? Did it disproportionately draw women, as it said it would? Is it still going on or what? Will editorial retention drop once the Teahouse is out of business?

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the "Arbitration report" will be discontinued as a separate page until we have enough content to warrant more than a few sentences. The report will now appear in "News and notes" under the 'In brief' section each

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that uncannily fits the bill. You can browse right through the whole edition, see links to individual articles. I also thought we could have the week's Technology Report poll in there lower down as well, as shown

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Since your comment, that page has (coincidentally) been revamped to make it more readable, but even before that one didn't need to read through the whole page to find the staff member about whose work you want to

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This brings me to my overall impression—that the study tells us nothing we didn't already know. A significant problem is how to distinguish (in data terms) between the ill effects on retention of the things we

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Hi, guys. :) As you are very likely aware, we are at 3,965,392 articles and should be reaching 4 million pretty soon. This is a massive milestone that the Wikimedia Foundation wants to be sure is celebrated in

5859: 4798:. I do not think this is controversial. I think that the name should be well-defined and having this project named with something other than its name is confusing. Could someone second this and make the move? 1259:

Were the general editors on wiki ever consulted about this? Most seem to feel slammed by the work load caused by the education program last fall. Is the general community (who bears the brunt) being consulted

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Nice to see the Signpost (27 Aug 2012 Edition) featuring Pictures on the main page news stories. I am sure that it will make Signpost more appealing for readers.Congratulations to all the people behind this

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and suggests that declining retention of newcomers is the cause." The "Also, ..." is bad, and the "mechanisms ... is shown" is a blunder. These are the kinds of things FAC would pounce on in a nomination.

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Most blogs, news media articles, etc. have a link to comments and talk. Oftentimes at both the top and bottom of the article. I don't see any such links in each article section of the single-page edition.

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This page, probably. Not so sure about suggestions; it should probably be a case of only archiving ticked-ff suggestions (but after 30 days, surely it's no longer news?). I'm ambivalent, in other words. -

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Visually, I like it; but for ease of browsing I would prefer to have clickable section headings to take readers to the full story, rather than relying on just the "continued→" at the end of each section.

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I don't expect my questions or concerns to be satisfactorily addressed. I don't expect you to report realistically about the Education Program or the Teahouse. I think it's quite clear that WMF runs the

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The frontpage introductory text for each subpage either needs to revert to being a generic heading, or needs to include at least a very brief indication of all the other items covered on the subpage. —

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I have no view on renaming the reports, except that I am by my nature a traditionalist, so personally wouldn't change them. But that's just personal taste, I can't really give a reason to support it. -

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Sorry, after months of trying to figure things out, I didn't know about those links you mentioned above. Do you think most editors know about them. Why is nothing on en:wp were regular editors can find

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staff know French? After our successful article on a Czech project a few months ago, I'd like to try highlighting more languages in the WikiProject Report this year. The French Knowledge's very active

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The monthly WMF reports and the annnual Financial reports most definitely contain overall metrics about the organization. If you meant overall metrics about the Education Program, there is for example

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The main page (in my view, and I think most others) exists to exhibit our featured and timely content. A more likely option would be a link in the toolbar; but I don't see that as very viable either.

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template structure is very complicated and we have hundreds of back issues to maintain too. Also, the fact it remains within Knowledge: namespace makes the change less effectual; perhaps one day the

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about the students' submissions to GAN, and a proposal to prevent professors from reviewing and passing their own students' work, I never hear about. And this is a massive program. What's going on?

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Oh, I see. You can tell I don't think in terms of html. Jarry, do we have to use thumbnailed images? Which is to say, can we just use the images themselves with no captions? I'm thinking that that

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Above, you described the Education Program as one of the "Topics that interest very few working editors". Here, you claim that "most" "feel slammed" by it. Isn't that a bit contradictory? Regards,

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their job descriptions a month ago somewhere? After how many years? And I am 100% convinced any effort I put into an opt-ed wouldn't be worth it. It would just be answered by more WMF blather.

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bottom right of the front page as well, but I'm hoping to get as much visibility as possible... I like pointing out when we're trying to do good things for the benefit of our readers. :-)

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I think we can all agree having the links in the single page edition would be helpful, but I don't think they are needed for /Issue, as you have to click the individual articles anyway.

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redlink has finally been dropped), and the Teahouse had great coverage in the beginning (large, detailed article and interview with the WMF grant person) but have nary a mention since.

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You also fail to realise the WMF's funding is what helps keep Knowledge running, if you have qualms about what they do you can go and edit Citizendium, they have a shortage of editors.—

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was a transcluded collection (also archived) of the associated talk pages rather than a redirect to the main talk page, paralleling what the Single-page version does with the articles.

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The Signpost and the Arbitration proceeding are both primary sources, which can be used to provide extra background, but should not be used on their own to source claims according to

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I suppose that's an option too -- just declutter the main page, but keep the names in the articles themselves to distinguish them from other similar things. Tony, what do you think?

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Only when I click on a specific article from the Signpost do I see discussion. There needs to be an explanation of how to find the individual article discussion on the entry page,

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It bothers me that our Wikiproject pages should be just the platform for another outlet to pursue deeper reportage, I suppose. Where's the extra traffic coming from, do you think?

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The front page summary for the Arbitration report disagrees with the report itself. The front page says that one case was opened and one closed. The report says neither happened.

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WMF funds these "liaison" people, yet where are they? Aren't they supposed to bridge the gap? I can't even remember their names anymore, except for Oliver/Okeyes (WMF), of course.

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Topics that interest very few working editors, like the Education Program, which was given its own page (which hasn't been used after it's initial advertisement—I see its special

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articles denoting their unique status as by-lined, static, and sometimes opinionated pieces. You can view the comments as a regular page by using the Talk page of any article. --

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It appears not, which is a pity. However, we could pursue the neater page titles in a five-minute typing job. The only unresolved caveat seemed to come from Mabeenot, concerning

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Wikinics: "If the "bashes", (wiknics) are not affiliated with the WMF, why does a banner about them keep appearing on my computer window? Who decides where they are held?" -: -->

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things don't appear as they should. Then there is the obvious case of the single-page view, which is so important that readers are invited to purge the cache as they read it.

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really needs a bit of a redesign. It is just a list of the articles with some links at the bottom and top. However, I was browsing through the archives and found this revision

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these days. So much of it seems to cover WMF stuff and dwell on workshops, travels, and other WMF material which involve only a few people, and even fewer Knowledge editors.

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You have found a typo in the web page version's abstract – and that is all you're going to say about it? This looks like it was a major study, supported by Foundation staff.

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Well, I added things for a while about projects like New Page Patrol and the Feedback Tool, but my attempts to keep readers interested in the updates began to be removed. (

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like what they see now (and they won't, not much productive is happening yet), that may be the only shot we get to attract their attention. Other opinions welcome. - Dank (

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We'll obviously be covering it; we'd be remiss in our duties if we didn't. :-) So, if I understand you correctly, you'd like us to write up a story that would run in the

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Sorry for being so brief and generally unintelligible but I am caught up with exams at the moment, which also accounts for the rather poor quality of my recent reporting.

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Temporary; arbcom has gone to sleep, so there's no point in irritating readers by enticing them to click and see just a couple of sentences. In these cases, it's in the

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Re the image: I was referring to the notifications that go on people's talk pages—not the compact boxed ones, but the separate threads. In terms of drawing attention to

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and was surprised to see that the WikiProject Report is a "draft article, which must not be treated as a final piece". Is this a goof-up? Because its funny in a way. ~*~

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Is anyone going to look into this? Like I said, I can do the back editions if I'm given a model, but I don't know that I can figure out how to set the first one up. --

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That's great, thanks Jarry. Put it all in my sandbox ready for Monday please. Who would run a bot for updating it though? Maybe we could use technology like with the

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Please forgive my gripping. (My plumbing broke twice in the last few day, resulting in many thousands of $ $ to re-plumb my whole darn place.) Best wishes to all,

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has seen itself not just as an outlet for en.WP, but for the movement, given that there's certainly no competition from other WPs. One of our key advantages is that

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The reduced transclusion width is a deliberate design decision to clearly differentiate article content from reader comments - similar to the larger margins on

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I'd like to sync the announcement of the four millionth article with my opinion piece on the four four million article "milestone". I linked it right up above.

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which show a small snippet of the first bit of the page. I'm not that advanced at coding though so anybody step in, please! Thanks again Jarry, wonderful idea.

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counterargument that doing that would distract from what will be a very big news week for us. I have my own thoughts, but I'd like to know what you all think.

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the matter, I personally feel this is a great idea. You'll get lots of cooperation from other-language WPians, and it's spot-on the way the SP has been going.

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I just copy the sidebar's code from the previous report and swap out the old news stories. Your Report looks good. I hope you'll consider writing some more. -

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ITM, but I don't like dropping "and notes" because it makes the section rather plain. (does that make sense? It does in my own head, not sure about yours).

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regarding the Article Feedback tool and the New Page Triage (or whatever they're called now) and other info I thought relevant start to be removed from the

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regarding the Article Feedback tool and the New Page Triage (or whatever they're called now) and other info I thought relevant start to be removed from the

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experiment with marking them some other way? We could run a narrow coloured bar down the left margin, or tint the background for the whole comments field.

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I've always disliked that cumbersome "Knowledge:Knowledge" in the URL. It would be nice to have that fixed, but it's not a huge deal. BTW, I switch from "

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So far, there have been no open cases in almost 2 months and there have been very few motions. This is a good thing but it also puts me out of a job! :P

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copy a past Signpost report to the blog, although it is certainly conceivable to write pieces that work in both venues (a bit like the recent research /

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Please lessen the width of the right sidebar in the talk sections. Talk is being squeezed too much. I am using a 17-inch CRT monitor at 1280 by 1024. --

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The Teahouse, to my knowledge, is being taken over by volunteer editors, ie like us. The WMF provided funding and groundwork, then gave it to us to run.

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And on a related note, can we drop "featured content" from the actual article names (so we don't repeat it on the main page or in the article header)?

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link directly to the Arbitration Ruling rather than the Signpost's Arbitration report? More primary, but less of a chance for loss in translation.

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Otherwise, many of your points are responded to by HaeB, which to my knowledge are accurate (and are made in his personal capacity, not as the WMF).

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be helpful, as we have had comments about the page not updating in the past after we publish. Could you set the purge to run for a day or two after

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I've only just noticed it, repeated after our names at the top, just under the big date. It's redundant clutter. Also displays way back, too, but I

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Yes. An obscure "announcement" by HaeB almost a year ago doesn't help me very much. How was I supposed to know about it? Really? His staff account:

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should be in the sidebar under interaction. Live, friendly interaction is the key. Not policy wonkishness from some of the pricks that hang out at

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Sorry to be a contrarian, but I like the simple, clickable table of contents as a front page. Keep it simple! We shouldn't have to "market" the

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I can't see much benefit from this - the Signpost is essentially editor-facing, while the main page is deliberately reader-facing. I enjoyed the

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wanted to touch base with you first and see how you felt about the idea. (I didn't post this under suggestions, because this is almost certainly

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by Aaron Halfaker, R. Stuart Geiger, Jonathan Morgan and John Riedl – it seems to have been quite a major study, published in a recent issue of

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to other WMF Media pages where I can't find my way around, and have given up bothering to try (despite collecting bookmarks all over the place).

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The Signpost is still a creature of Knowledge. So far as I understand, you don't have a number of skilled workers, each of whom signs off on

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This is a hands-down great idea and happens to fit in perfectly with our goal of expanding beyond the English Knowledge. Nice work, Mabeenot!

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I just want links to the comments. So people know that there are comments, and so that they can get to the comments quickly from anywhere. --

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Running out the door, will reply to WSC later, but I didn't say satirical, I said critical(!). I don't think it's satirical, for the record.

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that feeds my emotions now. I'm not smart enough to figure it out.) It seems to me that even you admit you don't quite know what's going on.

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Content disputes have long been one of the causes of good editors leaving, I see no reason why it would be worse now than seven years ago.

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The old style headlines for News & Notes and In the News solved this problem effortlessly by listing the main items, then "and more"

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context, listed as parts of it; so "report" from the last three doesn't seem necessary to convey precisely what they are. The "notes" in

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Back editions would be great if it wasn't too much work. Otherwise, if you do an example or two for me, I'm sure I can do the rest. --

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I like the new Signpost cover format, with descriptions in addition to the titles. I'd limit the descriptions to 60 words. Good bye! --

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Ways to promote the Signpost - and other things, such as centralised discussions - to new users would be worth investigating, however.

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can't really argue that that means the study and its conclusions and recommendations are of no interest to the Signpost's readership.

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am speaking in my capacity as staff. In general, those of who are on staff for the WMF who also volunteer keep our accounts separate.

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Hmm? You're going to put in place a frame-based design? But why would anyone want to read it in frames? (Or do I misunderstand?) -

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at least daily and possibly hourly from shortly before publication until a day or so after. This sounds like an ideal task for a

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Well, you should have a job again soon with the Arbcom election RfC heating up and the election itself in a couple months. ;-)

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Could run a semi-automated bot via AWB to go through and remove "Knowledge" from the templates once and if they've been moved.

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Me too. That was my second reaction: I would much rather have a clickable headline than hunt down little continuation buttons.

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I'm always surprised that these liaison people (except for the wonderful Oliver/Okeyes (WMF) ),don't actually communicate en:wp

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The Rise and Decline of an Open Collaboration Community – How Knowledge's reaction to sudden popularity is causing its decline

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As always, whether something is a "reliable source" depends on the claim. There are a lot of things I'd be happy to cite the

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I did look on HaeB's userpage before commenting and it isn't mentioned - or else it's so obscure that I'm too dumb to find it.

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and to ensure editors can continue to contribute, the staff don't necessarily have to edit as they often don't have the time.

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of the WikiProject Cartography report (the Knowledge page on Facebook has over one million "likes"), and yesterday I posted

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It should be addressed now. While the front page is still being tested, I'm updating it manually. Sorry for the confusion.

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editors, good people, who toil away creating the encyclopedia that WMF can piggyback off of and use for their own purposes.

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Everybody said yes to a revamp, so I'll carry it out. Objections below, code tweaks and changes, then I'll reveal the new

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Wait, I thought I was being criticized. I missed the right-winger link. Failure on my part... and no hard feelings Sven.

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reporting on what the WMF is regularly doing—but, as you have noticed, most of their work is not concentrated on en.wiki.

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All Teahouse info from WMF seems couched in happy face talk. Little realistic statistical info, meaningfully presented.

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then I would suggest it would be worth a paragraph or two, especially since it gives some specific recommendations. --

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I understand the reasoning behind a clear brand, but surely moving to Knowledge:Signpost is pointless in this regard?

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Just to make sure we have some coverage when the time comes, Matthew Roth has started up a very bare bones outline at

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tea house: yo, Mathew's point of lack of scrutiny regarding the metrics was made by me in the week before we ran with

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However, this whining of mine is not direct toward you, Jarry, as I consider you one of the best and most informative

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I would like to know if the charts in the article are free images. I want to upload them to the Commons. Some quotes:

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me converse with my reporters and see who will be writing our half of the story, and then I'll get back to you asap.

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We'll cross that bridge if we get to it. Maggie- we're still working a few things out. I haven't forgotten you. :-)

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population centers. It's a pretty town, but Miami, Tampa, other cities would allow more to attend these parties.

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The education program was "dumped by WMF on en:wp" in 2010 in form of the Public Policy Initiative, which received

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the WMF and a lively dialog. As long as it's well written and doesn't degenerate into WMF-bashing, I'd be for it. -

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Sure, I can put something together. Can you help compile a list of pages that would need to be purged? Perhaps at

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I'm not entirely sold -- we'll have confusion no matter what if I forget the standard disclaimer again (face-: -->

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a certain percentage to "free services" - in my case it was 20%—money I was unable to collect for services anyway.

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editors it actually retained. And many of the questions were from older editors who just wanted a quick response.

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organizers who are able to collect so much good content that it attracts complaints for being too much at once.

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That may be a possibility (especially for FC!), if other people like that... the bylines look naked to me now.

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Dammit, I was afraid that I'd forget something when I published at 6am my time. Thanks for the help, everyone.

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In terms of the meetings you're talking about, I wonder if you're actually think of volunteer activities, like

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others. In the end, I was told by someone that my problem was "taken care of" - nothing else as all is secret.

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stories", which is as it should be. And yes, if the URL is changed, it should be to just Knowledge:Signpost.

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subpages even if the introductory text is about a topic that I am not interested in. For example, in today's

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says what it is, unambiguously, and avoids that double-up in wording. Just a thought for your consideration.

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The blog has a comment function, which readers do use to ask questions and express opinions about WMF's work.

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has had something of a monopoly on such, and if we're not careful, we'll have our wings clipped, in effect.

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with a bold suggestion, he seems well-placed to take the mantle. He's had experience in running the MilHist

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There are a number of questions above which others may have answered, but I'll note that you can tell when

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Not sure where you got the idea that this is intended "to be a liaison between them and WMF". As with all

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on my watchlist. When I go there I see no links to discussion of the Signpost articles. When I go to the

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is being cited as a source for negative material about a living person in their Knowledge biography. See

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and its outcomes, contrary to your "silence" claim), or for a more comprehensive summary of WMF work the

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And how does WMF spend its money, if most of it goes to the chapters and they do who knows what with it?

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It's hard to keep track of what is happening here on en:wp, and I find myself just giving up. I wish the

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No worries, anyone is free to comment! Let me think about what I'd want, and I'll get back to you asap.

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Basically I'd be looking for two different views of the milestone, not for competition between the two.

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from each other. At the time, only one change seemed to be urgent because of calls to change the theme:

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about pornographic content on Commons. As we say in Spanish, I don't know if laugh or cry. Good bye! --

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is one part of the cure to Knowledge's problems of editor retention. Some female warmth to counter the

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report, having the latter exactly the same as the former but with a couple of the topics edited out. -

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Sadly I'm pretty sure we won't reach the 4 million mark this month. There's some discussion on this at

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The Village Pumps are quite accessible as is the Community Portal, the links are there in the sidebar.

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If a bot cleans up after the rename, it'd be a trivial and unnoticed change for the most part. Having

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Don't forget to mention I was the one with the ideas who was pushing it. How soon can we put this in?

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Me and Jarry1250 are working on sandbox versions and are hoping to implement it in a coming week. See

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Wow! What are the links for the massive reading assignment you recommend above? "Two clicks away from

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Actually, the Ed17 and I decided over email we'll unveil this next week. Until then, you can view it

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distribution. I wonder first whether he'd be prepared to assume the role, and if so, second, whether

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Oh, I've just noticed. This is great, but what happened to the "From the editor" report explaining?

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I kick-started it and then Jarry1250 helped me with the design. Thanks for all your kind comments!

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In the first of a series looking at this year's eight ongoing Google Summer of Code projects, the

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click on link to page headed "Wikiprojects", no logical or semantic problem, as far as I can see.

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and the affected article, but feel free to change it in any other pages that might need fixing.

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The other method would be to find someone on fr.wp who speaks English... skimming the talkpage,

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And what are those "two clicks" I need to know, mentioned above, to access all this information?

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ask Mabeenot where the template for the sidebar is stored: I can't finish my report without it!

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This was avoided at the time of the name change because it is technically very difficult. The

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Please don't have a design that requires scrollbars. (The example up there had them.) Please!

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I am checking with Maryana if this has been published yet in ABS or is still forthcoming. --

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should have a slot on the main page. Once every week "today's featured article" should be a

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I changed the frequency of archival from every 90 days to every 45, that should be enough.

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on the cake, it would have made for better news coverage inside and outside the movement).

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I'm guessing this answer isn't going to fully satisfy you, though. :-) What am I missing?

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Thanks Ed. I've never had a not-bad idea before, yay! Might quote your endorsement on my

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I archived everything before May 1 (inclusive), threads posted thereafter, I left there.

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gigaom.com/2012/09/19/the-disappearing-web-information-decay-is-eating-away-our-history/

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That's not a bad idea, Richard. I'll try to include something like that for next week.

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article. On such days the bottom of the page should have links to community pages like

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has the right idea here; the thumbing border and caption just look out of place to me.

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Just a minor correction: capitalize "there" in the "Wiknic 2012" Brief note. Thanks! --

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collaboration), or to edit the same raw interview material into two different products.

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The subject line says it all, I guess. In the discussion report, ""Hotcat" should be "

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Knowledge talk:Knowledge Signpost/Templates/Issue#Almost impossible to find discussion

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is probably my best piece. If you want to use one, let me know and I'll do the setup.

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Please don't use a format that has scroll bars! (This is the same plea I made above.)

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I haven't commented before because it really isn't a big deal, but it'd be nice if:

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indicated that he may author it on a biweekly basis... I'm hoping that he decides to.

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that surely contributed - along parallel messages on the official Knowledge feeds on

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for your profile picture? I don't know what to do for the cover photo, though... --

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always looked rather odd in my opinion and is quite redundant, no offence intended.

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The simplified version is available at the cover's actual location which will be ].

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P.S. As for liaisons, there's only two: Ironholds/Oliver and Moonriddengirl/Maggie.

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This assumes that there is a lack of people intelligent enough to use good sources.

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May I suggest that a bot be given the job of archiving threads on this page and at

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Our metrics report will be announced soon, including the fourth installment of the

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were started by or are even affiliated with the WMF. These are entirely Wikipedian.

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Mabeenot, I hear that you've been negotiating with foundation people to transclude

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I think it's acceptable when about a Wikipedian's editing of foundation projects.

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How long each million has taken and how long the fifth million is likely to take.

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We have a new proposal for an op-ed on creating a "Library of Knowledge" -- see

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Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_27#Wikipedian_in_Residence_appointed

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Ah, thanks for reminding me about this. I'll get on it next week, I promise. -

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would be better placed on Meta. (NB If it were to happen, it should be just to

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The banner says "16 July 2012", but the links are to last week's sub-pages? --

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about attracting and retaining new editors? Hard to believe. Should I just be

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going to happen next issue...and the scope is a bit broader than that. :)) --

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I like Tony's idea. If we're serious about this, let's put a poll up for it.

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has the code for hiding CentralNotice and other notices, take what you wish.

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Has the arbitration report gone away for good, or is this just temporary? --

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for images that require attribution, but I think this is a perfect place to

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Is Issue 25 late in coming? I thought it should have arrived by June 18. ~*~

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I do reflexively cringe at the thought of using the Signpost as an RS, but

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would be the goto place where we could find out about pending changes etc.

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image/text/font-type/colour etc, and I'll get one whipped up in no time.

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I propose that some kind of subsection system be used. Congratulations to

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system update • bug fixes • bots • archive dumps • metadata • new staff (

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Yes, half of the current length would be more digestible for SP readers.

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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#Centralized discussions

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meta:Wikimedia Blog/Drafts/EnWP 4 Million Article Milestone#Draft article

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A blog post on the Teahouse results is scheduled for next Wednesday, see

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Thanks Tony, I can't think of anyone more qualified for the job. - Dank (

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is what you are referring to, I'd hardly call that flattering coverage.

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Yes, there are more reliable sources about the Knowledge community; the

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OK, Jarry1250 has confirmed he will put it live for the week's edition.

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Academic study: The Rise and Decline of an Open Collaboration Community

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http://www.trcommons.org/2012/05/how-right-wingers-took-over-wikipedia/

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I was afraid I'd make some horrible blunder, so I decided to play safe

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I still haven't received my notification: it's more than four hours now

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So, going back to the original intent of this post, are there gaps in

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As far as the Teahouse project, where is the report and the "metrics".

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Abstract: "have lead to a more restrictive environment" ... oh dear.

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Eh, it was my fault I had to stay up so late for it, so not really!

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newsletter, with the bonus of having operated the technical side of

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We're not sure what happened yet, but are looking into it. Thanks!

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Is the latest draft still at the same link (start of this thread)?

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Looking forward to the op-ed. I hope it will be factually accurate.

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as "hinted" ;) (Besides, it is prominently stated on my user page.)

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I suggest a thumbnail pic each week, related to one of the pages.

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From comments he made. He said he was not clear what his role was.

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has hinted that he works for WMF. And there are others. Check out

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Recent research has shown that the number of active contributors

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Great article. I skimmed it. I am going to link to it from here:

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Any chance of doing talk pages as well when you have the time? --

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I still see no links to discussion of the articles. When I go to

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I would like to look at them and see what I and others can do. --

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This might be a daft thought, but afaik you can force a toc with

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I think that a bot-automated snippet approach, not dissimilar to

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page and copy across any field names of objects you wish to hide.

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is acting as staff because he will edit using his staff account:

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Despite historically garnering massive amounts of contributions,

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You can hide the fundraiser announcements in the Gadgets tab of

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How does one tell if HaeB is acting in which of his capacities?

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First, there is now a Facebook page for you all to like at <

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I just saw this article, which is basically an opinion piece:

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that reached it for the more general readership of the blog. --

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as someone suggested above, and insert my complaints into the

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Thanks! I missed that. (Note to self: next time, smoke crack

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Okay, I've created the last six months of archives at (e.g.)

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don't. Overall I would rate the change as mostly harmless. ~

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standard for articles to list their publication date there.

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Signpost would be a reliable secondary source in my book. --

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This may or may not have come up before, but as an FYI: the

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coverage you still see, even after the answers given above?

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Sounds/looks good! (Sorry, I've been away for a while.) --

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It's only slightly more reliable than Knowledge Review and

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I went ahead and quickly jotted off an essay about this at

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meta:Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/EnWP_4_Million_Article_Milestone

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Yup, no captions is better: tease them about the content.

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Looks like they've been fixed now. Don't forget this is a

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New Page Triage: "Why were my attempts to add info to the

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I find myself less and less interested in portions of the

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Is this the reason why 'September 24' issue is archived?

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that was written independently of the Signpost coverage:

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Minor typo in headline for this week's discussion report

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role to get involved with the close paraphrasing issue,

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I am giving about this problem together with MZMcBride).

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Some things in the latest release are looking a bit...

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http://meta.wikimedia.org/Research:The_Rise_and_Decline

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Move Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost to Knowledge:Signpost

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Fifth'd! Though I do love the new layout regardless. --

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Agreed. apart from that the new layout is fun though.

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Ah my mistake, it's been fixed now. Thanks JRSpriggs!

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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/2012-05-14/Special report

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journalists and editors at large would be in favour.

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I included it in this week's News and notes. Thanks!

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I don't have the skill to do this quickly. Perhaps

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I still see no links to discussion of the articles.

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Note about Pending Changes in the Discussion Report

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I'd love to hear from you. Thanks, 5705:was archived with the rest of the Signpost and 2900:I'm fine with dropping "report" from the main 2324:Moi je parle français si ça vous intéresse :) 676:There's more than two. For example, there is 3704:What we think was the four millionth article. 3585:Good point. :) Honestly, I don't think there 5563:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Templates/Issue 5548:Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/Templates/Issue 3175:Any updates, Jarry? We need to get started. 688:, to name a few who are on the payroll. And 4621:I agree. It looks very nice! All the best, 3996:, and select anything you think will work. 2453:I just read through the (excellent) July 2 2302:would be good places to find them as well. 1982:wiki-bash banners - how to get rid of them? 515:reported about what the heck WMF is doing. 145:I look forward guardedly to Ed's response. 6731:Purge Signpost and related pages regularly 6039:User_talk:EpochFail#Rise_and_decline_study 4790:. 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Kudos to whoever did it! 14: 6599:The archives should be fixed now. :-) 6079:Knowledge has entered a steady decline 4997:Using the Signpost as a source in BLPs 1781:? Well, so I don't contribute anymore. 1076:" - really? What are those two clicks? 838:Knowledge:Teahouse/Host_lounge/Metrics 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4499:caught up with developer Harry Burt. 3752:Looks like it may not be long now! -- 2963:Is anyone currently working on this? 2622:I think that our front cover page at 2547: 2186:Could someone check the bot, please? 1600:. He is speaking now as a volunteer. 1100:" in the footer of any Knowledge page 279:"Wikiprojects" page somewhere else. 6321:http://www.facebook.com/wikisignpost 5542:Almost impossible to find discussion 5423:Extraneous date after authors' names 5014:. 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