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31: 335:, a game can belong to more than one genre, and can have more than one release date as well (in different countries). Fredrik's changes describe the most likely values in each field, which looks less cluttered indeed. I don't think it would affect flexibility, since "Developer: Konami, Nintendo" doesn't sound worse than "Developer(s): Konami, Nintendo". They aren't full sentences, so not using plurals doesn't affect readability. -- 608:
I'm a gamer, and wikipedia user, and would want to know if i could join this project. So far, i've only made one game-related article, but i've greatly contributed to some others. Also want to know where i could get more specific info on this project - like when the weekly meetings are for editing an
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I'm pushing precision and exactness, not readability. By all means, they're both easily understood but grammatically one is more correct than the other. The question is; is it worth sacrificing grammar for what little you gain in aesthetics? Unfortunetly these days the answer is often yes, but that's
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Is there any consensus on what to call the list of games made by a particular person/company? Authors have bibliographies; do game developers have gameographies? This word seems well-established according to google, but the less common "ludography" seems to be more accurate, etymologically speaking.
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Personally, I've never minded the "(s)" and I think it provides a much higher degree of flexibility in the infobox. For instance; many games have different publishers for each country they are released in, and some have only one playing mode and platform. I feel that how it is currently, makes for a
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Is ludography even a word or is it just a coined term? For dev pages, I've always done (probably copied from someone else) "Game developed by ____." I really have no preference on this, although I am afraid that if we go with ludography that no one will know what it means. As it is theres only 2000
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There are no requirements. Just goto the project page and add your name. There aren't any meetings either. This is just a project to give editors that occasionally edit on game articles direction and focus (for lack of a better description - see the mission statement). Also look into participating
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The Game Boy Micro is nothing more than a redesign of the Game Boy Advance SP. Its the same thing so it belongs in the same gen as GBA and GBA SP. Its very debatable which gen the DS is apart of, but PSP is normally considered 7th. There is no indicator as to when the 7th generation began or will
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There seems to be a great deal of confusion over where handhelds belong in the 6th & 7th gen. The GB micro is 6th, despite being unreleased, whilst the PSP & DS are 7th and are on the market. This makes no sense to me. IMHO the 7th gen starts when the first 7th gen console is released,
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The Game boy advance has been on the market for years now. As the Micro adds no new hardware, it's just a cosmetic change. There's no need to put it in a separate category from the Game Boy Advance, any more than there is to put the GBA SP in a different category.
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begin when it comes to handhelds. For consoles its easy to say because there's only 3 and they all come out at about the same time. Handhelds have major redesigns, updates, offspring, numerous manufacturers etc. I think how we have things, see
119:. I also prefer the previous version and I think the copy/paste code in the infobox's discussion should also be considered for reversion, since its current state leaves room for the mistake of putting the info. on the wrong side of the pipe. ā€“ 107:
Without any sort of discussion the infobox was recently changed. Personally I liked the previous version, but what does everyone else think? I was contemplating reverting this, but thought getting some discussion on this would be best.
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I've noticed that the infobox looks different in Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox (other than the color changes made recently). Specifically, the borders between cells don't show up in IE. I've taken screenshots:
699: 535: 493:, is fine. At some point it may become necessary to remove handhelds from these "generation" articles because their history is difficult to manage as noted here and on the talk pages of those generations. 547: 539: 194:
Which appearance is intended to be the correct one? IMO, I think the lines look better, as they separate the contents. The coding needs to be altered to make the appearance consistent in both browsers.
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Problem with that is sometimes there isn't just one developer or publisher, or mode (or sometimes just 1), etc etc etc. If theres enough support for a change though, I'll do it.
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It was built in Firefox. I knew about this problem for Internet Explorer (there were actually a few other problems that I or Mrwojo fixed), but I could never solve this one.
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but I thought I would mention it here since more people will notice it here. Also the categories should alphabatized according to the content, not just
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I too have been using the "Games developed by ____" section heading for game company articles and I think it's more instantly understandable than using
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to your cleanup list, and I added a {context} tag as well. Is that how you all would like things to be done? Thanks for your work, BTW.
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I've made the changes to the actual infobox. I changed the border color though so it matches the Table of Content colors exactly. --
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Welcome, and feel free to join in on the GCOTW. My first approved submission is this week, so I thought I'd pimp it out a bit.
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I've somewhat-reverted it. The Table of Content colors are still there, but it is now colored differently in the left column. --
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I did a bit of NPOV'ing and clarifying to clean up the article a bit, but if someone else could look it over, that'd be great.
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No objection here. Looks good and nice work. After making the change though, you should have that sub-page deleted.
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article or provide a link to it. I feel it should not be used in any form of template until it is properly
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I vote for using the latter: it's accurate, and won't cause pronunciation difficulties. Any comments? --
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Obviously I don't mean that, though I really should have checked for its existance first. Thank you.
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just a personal gripe of mine. If people would like the plurals excluded, I'll live with thatĀ :) ā€“
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It seems I've found a way to fix it, but there's probably a more elegant solution. I've removed
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thing present in the other categories and articles. Do you think that renaming them to
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recently and there's one that's been bugging me for a while. The categories for
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Platforms (the normal cases)? This makes the infobox look a lot less cluttered.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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in the style tag of the table and for each cell. See how it looks here:
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and in relatively widespread use across the gameing industry. ā€“
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Speaking of the infobox, how about changing Developer(s) --: -->
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online dictionaries I tried return positive hits on the word
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if anybody else is interested in voicing their opinion. --
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but that is a minimal task. Should we set them up for
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therefore the PSP, DS & Gizmondo are all 6th gen.
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returns a very minor hit count from Google. Also, two
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