31:
335:, a game can belong to more than one genre, and can have more than one release date as well (in different countries). Fredrik's changes describe the most likely values in each field, which looks less cluttered indeed. I don't think it would affect flexibility, since "Developer: Konami, Nintendo" doesn't sound worse than "Developer(s): Konami, Nintendo". They aren't full sentences, so not using plurals doesn't affect readability. --
608:
I'm a gamer, and wikipedia user, and would want to know if i could join this project. So far, i've only made one game-related article, but i've greatly contributed to some others. Also want to know where i could get more specific info on this project - like when the weekly meetings are for editing an
352:
I'm pushing precision and exactness, not readability. By all means, they're both easily understood but grammatically one is more correct than the other. The question is; is it worth sacrificing grammar for what little you gain in aesthetics? Unfortunetly these days the answer is often yes, but that's
370:
Is there any consensus on what to call the list of games made by a particular person/company? Authors have bibliographies; do game developers have gameographies? This word seems well-established according to google, but the less common "ludography" seems to be more accurate, etymologically speaking.
304:
Personally, I've never minded the "(s)" and I think it provides a much higher degree of flexibility in the infobox. For instance; many games have different publishers for each country they are released in, and some have only one playing mode and platform. I feel that how it is currently, makes for a
403:
Is ludography even a word or is it just a coined term? For dev pages, I've always done (probably copied from someone else) "Game developed by ____." I really have no preference on this, although I am afraid that if we go with ludography that no one will know what it means. As it is theres only 2000
617:
There are no requirements. Just goto the project page and add your name. There aren't any meetings either. This is just a project to give editors that occasionally edit on game articles direction and focus (for lack of a better description - see the mission statement). Also look into participating
484:
The Game Boy Micro is nothing more than a redesign of the Game Boy
Advance SP. Its the same thing so it belongs in the same gen as GBA and GBA SP. Its very debatable which gen the DS is apart of, but PSP is normally considered 7th. There is no indicator as to when the 7th generation began or will
464:
There seems to be a great deal of confusion over where handhelds belong in the 6th & 7th gen. The GB micro is 6th, despite being unreleased, whilst the PSP & DS are 7th and are on the market. This makes no sense to me. IMHO the 7th gen starts when the first 7th gen console is released,
468:
The Game boy advance has been on the market for years now. As the Micro adds no new hardware, it's just a cosmetic change. There's no need to put it in a separate category from the Game Boy
Advance, any more than there is to put the GBA SP in a different category.
690:, and found it a bit of a pain in the ass to put up with all the random movie screenshots etc. It'd be nice if we could put them into their own sub-category, using something like Template:game-screenshot, with the same notice, different category. Thoughts?
485:
begin when it comes to handhelds. For consoles its easy to say because there's only 3 and they all come out at about the same time. Handhelds have major redesigns, updates, offspring, numerous manufacturers etc. I think how we have things, see
119:. I also prefer the previous version and I think the copy/paste code in the infobox's discussion should also be considered for reversion, since its current state leaves room for the mistake of putting the info. on the wrong side of the pipe. ā
107:
Without any sort of discussion the infobox was recently changed. Personally I liked the previous version, but what does everyone else think? I was contemplating reverting this, but thought getting some discussion on this would be best.
181:
I've noticed that the infobox looks different in
Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox (other than the color changes made recently). Specifically, the borders between cells don't show up in IE. I've taken screenshots:
699:
535:
493:, is fine. At some point it may become necessary to remove handhelds from these "generation" articles because their history is difficult to manage as noted here and on the talk pages of those generations.
547:
539:
194:
Which appearance is intended to be the correct one? IMO, I think the lines look better, as they separate the contents. The coding needs to be altered to make the appearance consistent in both browsers.
551:
543:
590:
507:
316:
Problem with that is sometimes there isn't just one developer or publisher, or mode (or sometimes just 1), etc etc etc. If theres enough support for a change though, I'll do it.
207:
It was built in
Firefox. I knew about this problem for Internet Explorer (there were actually a few other problems that I or Mrwojo fixed), but I could never solve this one.
244:
224:
189:
185:
272:
168:
341:
137:
357:
153:
309:
562:
but I thought I would mention it here since more people will notice it here. Also the categories should alphabatized according to the content, not just
413:
I too have been using the "Games developed by ____" section heading for game company articles and I think it's more instantly understandable than using
298:
94:
86:
81:
69:
64:
59:
123:
253:
234:
201:
247:? Appearance-wise, the two are identical in Mozilla Firefox. In Internet Explorer, the second adds the gridlines that are meant to be there. --
450:
354:
306:
120:
666:
to your cleanup list, and I added a {context} tag as well. Is that how you all would like things to be done? Thanks for your work, BTW.
619:
453:
389:
266:
I've made the changes to the actual infobox. I changed the border color though so it matches the Table of
Content colors exactly. --
641:
Welcome, and feel free to join in on the GCOTW. My first approved submission is this week, so I thought I'd pimp it out a bit.
162:
I've somewhat-reverted it. The Table of
Content colors are still there, but it is now colored differently in the left column. --
654:
I did a bit of NPOV'ing and clarifying to clean up the article a bit, but if someone else could look it over, that'd be great.
47:
17:
559:
259:
No objection here. Looks good and nice work. After making the change though, you should have that sub-page deleted.
280:
511:
102:
523:
515:
527:
445:
article or provide a link to it. I feel it should not be used in any form of template until it is properly
657:
431:
371:
I vote for using the latter: it's accurate, and won't cause pronunciation difficulties. Any comments? --
38:
133:, the previous version was just fine, although by some reason it left the rating field even if empty.
713:
Obviously I don't mean that, though I really should have checked for its existance first. Thank you.
519:
176:
703:
353:
just a personal gripe of mine. If people would like the plurals excluded, I'll live with thatĀ :) ā
215:
It seems I've found a way to fix it, but there's probably a more elegant solution. I've removed
490:
682:
486:
8:
240:
534:
thing present in the other categories and articles. Do you think that renaming them to
365:
433:
675:
634:
610:
295:
594:
575:
134:
501:
385:
603:
510:
recently and there's one that's been bugging me for a while. The categories for
426:
290:
Platforms (the normal cases)? This makes the infobox look a lot less cluttered.
46:
If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
707:
631:
623:
583:
494:
405:
339:
336:
317:
270:
267:
260:
251:
248:
232:
229:
208:
199:
196:
166:
163:
151:
148:
109:
459:
428:
642:
571:
470:
328:
291:
714:
691:
667:
555:
223:
in the style tag of the table and for each cell. See how it looks here:
688:
441:
381:
649:
439:, both of which have either just copied the text from the Knowledge
446:
396:
449:
and in relatively widespread use across the gameing industry. ā
285:
Speaking of the infobox, how about changing
Developer(s) --: -->
663:
435:
online dictionaries I tried return positive hits on the word
147:. It looked better before with the colors in one column. --
593:
if anybody else is interested in voicing their opinion. --
570:
but that is a minimal task. Should we set them up for
465:
therefore the PSP, DS & Gizmondo are all 6th gen.
425:
returns a very minor hit count from Google. Also, two
554:would be more appropriate and worth it? I notice
700:Category:Screenshots of computer and video games
506:I've been cleaning up a few inconsistencies in
239:Does anyone have any objection to replacing
706:, already covered on the project page too.
582:If you list on CFD for rename I'd support.
536:Category:Computer and video game characters
620:Knowledge:Gaming Collaboration of the week
548:Category:Computer and video game retailers
540:Category:Computer and video game magazines
552:Category:Computer and video game websites
481:really about when a system is released.
14:
544:Category:Computer and video game music
44:Do not edit the contents of this page.
18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Video games
417:and less awkward looking than using
25:
560:Category talk:Video game characters
219:from the table, instead specifying
23:
24:
729:
508:Category:Computer and video games
658:How do you want cleanup handled?
421:, and as K1Bond007 pointed out;
404:returns for the word on Google.
289:Ratings, and Platform(s) --: -->
29:
286:Developer, Publisher(s) --: -->
13:
1:
7:
564:Computer and video games...
10:
734:
710:05:13, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)
586:17:50, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
578:16:09, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
532:Computer and video game...
399:22:17, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
390:10:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
287:Publisher, Mode(s) --: -->
263:23:53, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
112:05:06, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
694:04:16, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
683:Game-screenshot template?
678:21:01, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
670:07:31, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
637:23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
626:22:29, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
613:22:23, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
597:20:21, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
497:16:59, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)
473:12:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
408:23:59, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
392:22:09, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
320:03:05, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
221:border: 1px solid #bbbbbb
211:18:44, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
717:17:26, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
704:Template:Game-screenshot
645:02:04, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
454:01:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
358:02:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
342:22:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
310:01:43, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
305:more precise infobox. ā
299:00:00, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
288:Modes, Rating(s) --: -->
273:23:04, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
254:22:32, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
245:Template:Infobox CVG/Fix
235:22:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
202:18:37, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
169:23:01, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
154:18:18, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
138:01:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
124:14:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
327:I'd have to agree with
281:Infobox value plural(s)
225:Template:Infobox VG/Fix
630:Thanks for the reply,
491:Seventh generation era
103:Recent infobox changes
702:? There already is a
42:of past discussions.
687:I was going through
502:Category consistency
487:Sixth generation era
395:Sounds good to me.
674:Yeah, that's fine.
604:Joining CVG Project
241:Template:Infobox VG
574:? Any thoughts? --
530:do not follow the
460:Handheld confusion
609:article. Thanks,
186:Internet Explorer
177:Infobox gridlines
100:
99:
54:
53:
48:current talk page
725:
430:out of the four
378:
375:
78:
56:
55:
33:
32:
26:
733:
732:
728:
727:
726:
724:
723:
722:
685:
660:
652:
606:
504:
462:
376:
373:
368:
283:
190:Mozilla Firefox
179:
105:
74:
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
731:
721:
720:
719:
718:
698:You mean this
684:
681:
680:
679:
659:
656:
651:
650:Hot Shots Golf
648:
647:
646:
628:
627:
605:
602:
601:
600:
599:
598:
558:noted this on
503:
500:
499:
498:
482:
461:
458:
457:
456:
410:
409:
367:
364:
363:
362:
361:
360:
347:
346:
345:
344:
322:
321:
313:
312:
282:
279:
278:
277:
276:
275:
227:
213:
212:
188:
178:
175:
174:
173:
172:
171:
157:
156:
141:
140:
127:
126:
104:
101:
98:
97:
92:
89:
84:
79:
72:
67:
62:
52:
51:
34:
15:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
730:
716:
712:
711:
709:
705:
701:
697:
696:
695:
693:
689:
677:
673:
672:
671:
669:
665:
662:I just added
655:
644:
640:
639:
638:
636:
633:
625:
621:
616:
615:
614:
612:
596:
592:
589:They are now
588:
587:
585:
581:
580:
579:
577:
573:
569:
568:Video game...
565:
561:
557:
553:
549:
545:
541:
537:
533:
529:
525:
521:
517:
513:
509:
496:
492:
488:
483:
480:
476:
475:
474:
472:
466:
455:
452:
448:
444:
443:
438:
434:
432:
429:
427:
424:
420:
416:
412:
411:
407:
402:
401:
400:
398:
393:
391:
387:
383:
379:
359:
356:
351:
350:
349:
348:
343:
340:
338:
334:
330:
326:
325:
324:
323:
319:
315:
314:
311:
308:
303:
302:
301:
300:
297:
293:
274:
271:
269:
265:
264:
262:
258:
257:
256:
255:
252:
250:
246:
242:
237:
236:
233:
231:
226:
222:
218:
210:
206:
205:
204:
203:
200:
198:
192:
191:
187:
183:
170:
167:
165:
161:
160:
159:
158:
155:
152:
150:
146:
143:
142:
139:
136:
132:
129:
128:
125:
122:
118:
115:
114:
113:
111:
96:
93:
90:
88:
85:
83:
80:
77:
73:
71:
68:
66:
63:
61:
58:
57:
49:
45:
41:
40:
35:
28:
27:
19:
686:
676:Thunderbrand
661:
653:
635:Elitejeff123
629:
611:Elitejeff123
607:
567:
563:
531:
505:
478:
467:
463:
447:standardised
440:
436:
422:
418:
414:
394:
372:
369:
332:
284:
238:
220:
216:
214:
193:
184:
180:
144:
130:
116:
106:
75:
43:
37:
595:TheDotGamer
576:TheDotGamer
419:gameography
333:technically
36:This is an
512:characters
442:ludography
437:ludography
423:ludography
415:ludography
366:Ludography
337:Poiuyt Man
331:, because
268:Poiuyt Man
249:Poiuyt Man
230:Poiuyt Man
217:border="1"
197:Poiuyt Man
164:Poiuyt Man
149:Poiuyt Man
95:ArchiveĀ 10
708:K1Bond007
632:K1Bond007
624:K1Bond007
584:K1Bond007
524:retailers
516:magazines
495:K1Bond007
406:K1Bond007
318:K1Bond007
261:K1Bond007
209:K1Bond007
110:K1Bond007
87:ArchiveĀ 6
82:ArchiveĀ 5
76:ArchiveĀ 4
70:ArchiveĀ 3
65:ArchiveĀ 2
60:ArchiveĀ 1
643:Kertrats
572:renaming
528:websites
471:Kertrats
329:Fredrik
292:Fredrik
39:archive
715:Slike2
692:Slike2
668:JesseW
664:Edenia
591:listed
556:Mrwojo
550:, and
526:, and
145:Revert
117:Revert
618:with
520:music
451:Quoth
355:Quoth
307:Quoth
243:with
121:Quoth
16:<
489:and
477:Its
296:talk
566:or
479:not
397:You
374:jet
622:.
546:,
542:,
538:,
522:,
518:,
514:,
388:)
377:57
294:|
228:--
195:--
131:Rv
91:ā
386:t
384:ā“
382:u
380:(
135:S
50:.
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.