Knowledge talk:WikiProject Higher education/Archive 12

4831:'Faculty' as a collective term for academic or teaching staff at a higher education institution is really not used in the UK. The position in regard to who constitutes 'academic staff' is rather complex. At one time, prior to about 25 years ago, academic staff had much better employment contracts than other staff. They could only be dismissed for extreme misconduct. However, this has changed and academic staff now tend to have contracts much like those of other university employees. Academic staff were once expected to both teach and conduct research. Today, research 'high flyers' might expect to do much less teaching than their more pedestrian counterparts, and academics with research-only positions are becoming more common. Also academics who perhaps have not been successful in attracting research grant money, might find themselves moved into a teaching-only role. Academic staff, are those who are either 'principal investigators', who lead research groups, or academic teachers, or have a mixture of the two roles. Full or part-time teaching assistants, who usually have fixed-term or 'zero hours' contracts, are not usually considered to be academic staff. Staff, such as librarians and senior technical specialists, who provide scientific services supporting research, are often termed 'academic-related staff'. Sometimes these are lumped in with technicians, administrators and clerical staff as 'professional support staff'. Most researchers, including post-docs are on fixed-term contracts and are classified as 'research-only staff'. PhD students are just post-graduate students, but can also function as part-time 'demonstrators' and teaching assisstants, which they are paid for, but they are not regarded as being staff in any real sense. 5356:. What does this metric represent? Are they "good statistics", causing no misunderstanding? The latter institutions are state-funded and their windfall fundings are not categorized as endowments. The statistics report facts through numbers. It is not the decision of an encyclopedia to judge what they represent or do not. An encyclopedia can only decide if a number is important or not (not if it represents this or that). If you wish to oppose my suggestion, the correct way is to claim the number of papers/citations is not important and nobody count them. I believe the three numbers I proposed are among the best metrics in the whole Knowledge, because they are absolute numbers. People can easily verify them, as opposed to other metrics such as the number of students, which are reported by the university (and universities have different methods for counting students). Your attitude is not uncommon; you oppose anything new while defending what already exists. Sooner or later, Knowledge will report the three numbers I proposed, because there is a general demand for them. That day, you will defend the number of papers/citations as established metrics while opposing new ideas. 3255:(the "American dream") and for the last 80 years or so this has expanded to include attending college. I am much more certain in saying that this is probably also linked to the much expanded access to college in the United States that began in the middle of the 20th century, first with the post-World War II GI Bill that provided access to veterans, many of whom were not from families who could afford and expected their kids to attend college, and then continued with expanded access to women and people of color. Expanding access has continued to be a priority for many people, particularly those who work in higher education, with those on the left focused on ensuring that people of color and women continue to have access and those on the right somewhat focused on ensuring that people in the lower and middle classes continue to have access. The number of people participating in higher education and the number of colleges and universities in the U.S. exploded in the 20th century and this was - and continues to be - a very prominent population in that growth. 5233:

of research output, but still, journal publications are the dominant research out (books in a narrow range of disciplines). Instead of relying on the numbers, the REF classification of research excellence is based on the review of selective publications nominated by the universities (which I believed is just a fancy bureaucracy). Still, the judgement is based on the journal publications by a large margin. How do the universities select their representative publications? Most likely, the highly cited publications in famous journals. The output of REF reviews of higher education institutions directly correlates with the number of publications in famous journals and citations. Have you ever seen a small university beating Oxbridge in any research review? There's no magic, is it the science of statistics.

260:"I am opposed to a compromise, as if Drevolt will only accept "public" and might allow an explanatory footnote." When did I ever say that? I explicitly said that I was interested in trying to find an option which balanced out both sides in the RfC. I never said that the word "public" had to take precedence over the word "state-related", and in fact, I was very clear in saying that I wanted to engage in open and civil discussion about this. After two deadlocked RfCs that found no consensus, does it not seem like a reasonable decision to seek a compromise that wasn't previously on the table? The user at WP:DRN sure seemed to think so. Moreover, claiming that we can only use one term or the other in the lead seems like a pretty blatant instance of "strict adherence to artificial binary", don't you think? 7194:"House histories," histories of institutions that are typically commissioned by them and often written by a current or former member of the institution, are often not very good sources in my experience and in my professional opinion. They typically don't have information that is outright wrong but because of the inherent conflicts of interest involved in their writing they are often overly positive and shy away from critical analysis of the institution. In my experience, they are often very detailed accounts of limited parts of the institution (presidents, particularly prominent faculty, buildings, etc.) without the kind of synthesis and analysis that is the mark of high quality history. So in general they tend to be of very limited use for writing an encyclopedia article. 4964:

professor, instructor, lecturer or the equivalent of any of those academic ranks. Faculty may also include the chancellor/president, provost, vice provosts, deans, directors or the equivalent, as well as associate deans, assistant deans and executive officers of academic departments (chairpersons, heads or the equivalent) if their principal activity is instruction combined with research and/or public service. The designation as "faculty" is separate from the activities to which they may be currently assigned. For example, a newly appointed president of an institution may also be appointed as a faculty member. Graduate, instruction, and research assistants are not included in this category.

4740:). Whether something like 'Faculty of Engineering' should be capitalised is not entirely clear – is this an abbreviated form of a proper name (following the example given in the MOS of "State Department", used in context) or is it a generic term (like church, hospital, university). I'd tend towards the former, but arguments could be given either way. Similarly for something like "College of Arts and Sciences", but "College of the Holy and Undivided Trinity" is definitely a proper name. "University College" could be either a proper name (in the context of the universities of Oxford, Durham or London) or a generic name for a type of institution. 5167:

research funding received in specific time span, some of the international rankings that attempt to quantify research output and quality. As mentioned above, the Basic Carnegie Classification does this to some degree as research is included in the algorithm for classifying institutions, at least for universities, and that has widespread acceptance although it's a very, very coarse classification that few people actually understand except in the very broadest sense. So I sympathize with the desire to include this information but I don't think it's feasible, especially in any manner that is comparable across national borders.

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decisions about which specific institutions should have this information and which shouldn't (more specifically, I think that some editors would object if this information were removed from the infobox of some articles so adding it to all of the relevant articles seems to be the path of least resistance). There appear to be lead institutions in each state and regional hosts for the space-grant and sun-grant programs, respectively, so we could conceivably only include this membership for those institutions; there doesn't appear to be anything parallel for the sea-grant program or at least it's not noted in the

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phrase "state-related". However, it is a reasonable point that just saying they're public and leaving it at that obscures something. Therefore, it seems to me that in both the lead and the infobox, it would be good to qualify in a non-distracting way. For example: in the infobox, the adjective "public" should be used, accompanied by an explanatory footnote. In the lead, the adjective "public" should be used in the first pass, but later in the lead there should be a one-sentence summary of the relevant body section that explains the governance structure, if such section exists in the article.

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is moot) and ignorant of the city or town. However, searching by name and nation will provide a quick result. I realise that not all subjects that are peculiar to a country has the name of the nation in the lead, but in my experience that is because the contributors are unable to comprehend that a reader will not know what part of the world they are inferring. When you have seen as many articles as I have that only mention a large town or city without reference to a larger geopolitical area or nation, the lack of doing same is not a matter of consensus but conscientiousness.

7798: 4608: 4418:, I proposed some significant changes to this article and was hoping to get feedback from other editors. You will notice there is a lack of detail about the university’s history and academic activities and also potential issues related to original research in the Authorization and Reception sections. There hasn’t been a consensus on the content, and we are looking for further input from someone with more experience in editing university-related articles. I’d be grateful for your feedback. Many thanks, 7746: 2984:

distinguish between institutions that place more or less prominence on athletics (NCAA Division I and II gets a section and everyone else gets a subsection?) and structure the article accordingly. I like the idea of consistency as it makes things easier for both editors and readers. But I would also have sympathy for an argument that article layout and structure should, to some degree, reflect differences between institutions as that is a great way to make those differences apparent to readers.

4679:, whose article is on my watchlist due to vandalism, because it incorrectly contained the university infobox. I've gone through all the transclusions of that template searching for schools, school district, high school, and secondary school, removed those that were inappropriate, and reverted the bot's talk page tagging when needed; I found nearly 150 articles with this problem, but there may be more. I left alone articles that appeared to be about high-school/college combinations, like 7762: 31: 7405:

and historic buildings, but does not appear to be the place for details about student halls of residence. This would be the section to give information about where on campus the student residences are and what developments are planned, but details of halls of residence are relatively unimportant to most readers and so are probably better left until further down the article in the student life section where they are currently target than overloading an early section with information.

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sources. Some of it is okay: These institutions probably publish a lot more information about themselves and exhibit a higher level of transparency than most other institutions. Moreover, much of what is published in independent sources is information from the institution that is simply being republished by someone else e.g., nearly all of the basic facts such as number of students and graduation rates is provided by the institution with no independent confirmation.

7814: 6138:. Of course, "widely recognizable" is highly subjective, but I think we're okay leaving that up to editorial discretion. It's hard to make set-in-stone guidance for things like, since a lot of contextual factors come into play. For instance, you could argue that in a borderline case, a school with a very large international student population should list the country, whereas a community college with only local students next door should not. How does that sound, 5182:

aggregate the results based on the affiliation. As a matter of fact, this is one of few credible data about universities. You can check the validity of the results with another database. There are also open-source datasets of publications and citations. What is your source for the number of students, staff, endowment, etc. (all in the Infobox)? The university report. Can you double-check it with another source? No! You simply report what the university claims.

7112:. Given how awful the FAs from that period were before we delisted them, I hesitate to even look haha. The pickings are very slim, which (at the risk of touting my own work) is why I was so glad for this project to finally have a new institution FA with the pass last December. Writing about a defunct institution could make it trickier to find some sources, but at least you have the benefit of historical hindsight and don't have to worry about updating. 8983: 2848:, Hello, thanks for your comments. Actually, some references are removed and many secondary references are added according to the rejection feedback. For example, Ref. 3 is one article in a magazine that mentions the necessity of ETOPIA. Two interviews (Ref. 4 and Ref. 6) are from independent sources (Craiova TV station, Bright Cities company). Ref. 10 is also from a magazine talking about the ETOPIA summer school. From my understanding of 4526:— I have suggested in the talk page that it should be moved to "University Carlos III of Madrid" (with the Spanish version of the name "Carlos" rather than "Charles"), as that is the official English name of the university: it appears with this name in most third-party references, for instance , . Even Google suggests an autocorrect when I type Carlos III. Looking for feedback on whether this is a good idea or not. Thanks! 327:

to insist on accurate (but not binary) categorization. Each of these has the corresponding "compromise" position of adding caveats, but there's a more fundamental compromise position which is to avoid unnecessary categorization. My own view is that we should avoid categorization in the infobox and the opening sentence but could include a caveated sentence in the lead, with the accurate discussion in the main text.

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or events; and work published in non-print media." (Paragraph 217; a longer listing of the various categories of research output is given in Annex K). We have no way of balancing journal articles, edited books, compositions, artefacts, etc. in a way that isn't original research – which is why the idea of using bibliometrics for this sort of thing has been abandoned by the REF in favour of expert panels.

8843:(FA). When I was building out the academics section of that article, I considered having a list of the most popular majors, which (as you laid out for the class of 2021) would have been Econometrics & Quantitative Economics (43), Computer Science (33), Political Science & Government (21), Mathematics (19), Research & Experimental Psychology (19), Neuroscience (17), Chemistry (17). 6379: 5979: 5933: 2752: 7280:

after it. By this method, University of Alabama Birmingham would be alphabetised as Alabama Birmingham, next to University of Alabama. It's pretty much the same principle as ignoring 'the' in names (although I have seen lists – not on Knowledge – that have some universities as 'X university', some as 'university of X' and others as 'the university of X', and this is fairly annoying!)

6633:, years in parenthesis are used to disambiguate identically titled professorships (unless multiple identically titled professorships are established in the same year, where they use the specific date and number of the grace establishing them to disambiguate, though that's only the case for a couple of vestigial 1960s establishments). There might be an argument for using dates per 6670:, where the Astrophysics Chairs are listed as "Astrophysics (1909), Astrophysics (2009), Astrophysics (2011), Astrophysics (2016), Astrophysics (2018), Astrophysics and Cosmology" and the Divinity Chairs as "Divinity (Lady Margaret’s), Divinity (Norris-Hulse), Divinity (Regius)". So I continue to claim that 1909 is part of the title here. However I would be happy with moving 368:

hodge-podge of terminology. The public/private dichotomy of US universities is well-recognized, accurate, and good enough approximation. These four institutions clearly fall on the public side of this spectrum, and their technical source of funding does not warrant in my opinion the creation of a third category. I did not vote in August, but you can consider this a vote for

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2677:, rankings just lump together an entire group of institutions on a single scale, which is a radical oversimplification. There are tons of other dimensions that an institution's reputation may have. It might be known for having a particularly strong program in a certain field, or generally acknowledged as the top school in a particular category (e.g. women's college, HBCU, 810: 5004:! I'm glad you're looking to improve Purdue, and if you have questions or want support resources, the folks here can help you out. I would not recommend trying to create a WikiProject, though. Individual schools, even larger ones, are just too niche topics to support a WikiProject, and the WikiProject system as a whole has been consolidating rather than expanding. 7616:) and are not what most people would call faculty. Merriam-Webster has the definition of faculty include "those members of the administration having academic rank in an educational institution" – unless the president is also a professor, they are not part of the faculty by this definition. If the president is a professor, they should be placed in both categories. 5066:, the term "research" has appeared 91 times, and the term "publications" (referring to the number of publications of faculty members) has appeared 11 times. In most ranking systems, the number of publications of each university is directly considered as a key factor, though some ranking systems use specific publications (e.g., in specific journals as 940:

from our discussion at the infobox, which is that most affiliations aren't that significant and they end up bloating infoboxes, crowding out more important information. So I'd say go ahead and finish out the adding just to tidy things up, but just make sure we prioritize finishing out the conversation on what to do with that entire clump afterwards.

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work in this area but it - status quo ante in cases where a clear consensus cannot be formed and there is not a clear policy violation at stake - is the broad, project-wide consensus. We can - and should - revisit this in a year or two to see if a consensus can be reached but the articles should remain as they were before the RfC in the meantime.

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others who don't have specific expertise and professional or scholarly experience. It's rather boring-but-essential information that's easy to overlook and omit in favor of flashier information like number of rankings, award-winning alumni and faculty, athletic team accomplishments, and easy-to-copy lists of buildings and student organizations.

3231:, I'm not sure. I know that issues around socioeconomic status are approached differently in the U.S. than in the UK, with class considered a more rigid concept in the UK. I imagine that there's some sort of discussion about class-based affirmative action there, but perhaps it's not as centered around the idea of first-generation status. 5796:. If there is RS controversy around a specific president (and what about officers of public corporations, or anyone else's current salary, there is no limiting principle) then discussion somewhere could be due, but one would think it would go to the university's article before thinking of going to the bio, depending on the coverage. -- 7503:

buildings. The spin-off article just about the halls I would think needs to be merged back in. But it has a Controversy section, which could go into the History section, and will probably need to be shortened, although the student suicide issue was quite prominent in the UK media at the time. (Or maybe it needs to be in Student life?).

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just being recentism, but these are few and far between, and will probably concern something that already has a relevant section (e.g. 'Rankings and reputation' if an institution was found to have been falsifying information to get improve its position in league tables). It's very, very rare that a separate section is justified.

419:, well said. I agree completely. Regardless of what we end up choosing, I think the leads of these four articles should include both “state-related” and “public” and should have a clear explanation of the CSHE, possibly in the form of an explanatory footnotw. Hopefully others will be interested in finding a compromise as well. — 3157:, a google search suggests that the equivalent term in the UK is first-generation (university) students. To me the article reads more like an academic paper than a wikipedia article so I would recommend starting a new global article rather than using this one. Perhaps that could be a challenge for another US university class. 1150:. The rankings need to be popular to warrant inclusion (I'd need to look into it more to figure out exactly where our bar is), and I'm not seeing media coverage to indicate that the launch of their U.S. rankings has really made much of a splash. The popularity of their global rankings won't necessarily translate. 1121:. There was no intention for that to apply anywhere but to the lower lever schools covered by that project, but the arguments for and against raised there may be of interest here. Initially it was thought that such images were rare, but it was found that they were actually common enough that mention was added to 7488:, which is outside the same city on one self-contained campus, on the other. I can see the argument for including the residences in Student life though. I will hold back a bit on that, and concentrate on removing excessive detail. I've seen marketing departments paste in dross about the bus routes, for example. 6984:

information you're trying to source. They're definitely not the strongest type of source, so if the information is available elsewhere or is at all controversial, I would try to find it elsewhere. But if it's only available from the dissertation and relevant to the article, it may be okay. When I was writing an

4864:" = "academic teacher" are quite close to "academic staff", but both do not fit perfectly: PhD candidates are not considered as academic staff in the UK as you describe above, but they often belong to it in Germany. Since there are these "research only" positions, teaching and academic staff is not the same. 5939: 917:

point. There is also inconsistency in how the associations are included in the parameter; sometimes they're separated by a comma, sometimes they're bullet points, etc. And there is also inconsistency about whether abbreviations are used. So there's a lot of further clean up work that could and should occur.

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do it, would be to try as much as possible to include facts like Princeton has had X Pulitzer winners or Y ambassadors, rather than listing individual people. I've never seen a university page that manages to do this well, but with Princeton there just might be enough sourcing available to pull it off.

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Did you nominate a featured article between 2004 and 2015 that you have continuously maintained? Check these articles, update as needed, and mark them as 'Satisfactory' at URFA/2020. A continuously maintained FA is a good predictor that standards are still met, and with two more "Satisfactory" marks,

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The current guidelines are very US-centric and may not account for organizations, features, buildings, and other phenomenon that are important outside the US. So take a hard look at the guidelines to see if perhaps they should be changed. (But I also recognize that many articles about US colleges and

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It's relatively normal for university lists to ignore 'university of' and trailing 'university' and alphabetise by the substantive part, so you don't end up with a huge number of institutions under U with some (e.g. Cornell University) coming before this block and others (e.g. Yale University) coming

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What I would argue is that for a global Encyclopaedia it's significantly more likely a reader would think "there's an old professorship of astrophysics at Cambridge, I wonder how old?" than "there's a professorship of astrophysics dating from 1901, I wonder where?". So for our purposes disambiguation

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There is no need to link to the US, per WP:OVERLINKING, and have removed wikilinks when editing. My short rationale is that when searching for an educational site on google individuals may be uncertain what State a place may be in (obviously if the state name is included in the institution, then this

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To clarify, I objected to the removal of my edit adding the name of the nation to an article per WP:Revert. I then argued that adding the nation to any place or person specific is of general benefit to the encyclopedia as it helps algorithms when people are searching for relevant subjects. My reasons

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You can choose a reference source for all the metrics I suggested while people can cross-check with other databases. The point is that these data exist. Imagine Knowledge decides to include these metrics, and use the university as the source (like other metrics in the Infobox). Isn't it better to use

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I agree that this isn't feasible. To address one specific point made, number of publications (particularly in the form of papers, which is what is normally measured, and even then varies depending on the definitions and methodology adopted) is not the same thing as research output. The guidelines for

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Instructional staff: An occupational category that is comprised of staff who are either: 1) Primarily Instruction or 2) Instruction combined with research and/or public service. The intent of the Instructional Staff category is to include all individuals whose primary occupation includes instruction

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say. Given that these labels are the sort of thing typically brought up in the first sentence when introducing an institution, sources should hopefully be available for most institutions. When that's not enough to determine the wording we should use, I'd say it's okay to give some amount of weight to

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before, while characterizing a reputation directly in wikivoice would be subjective and non-neutral, noting the existence of a reputation found widely in RS is not. There are quality sources that can be used, several of which were mentioned in the discussion I linked above. The boosterism magnet will

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I think it would be accurate to say that there is an inappropriate reliance on self-published sources in many articles about colleges and universities. Some of it is problematic: In some instances, we have information in articles that probably shouldn't be included if an editor can't find independent

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I'll try to keep an eye out as I continue to edit infoboxes and add others to this list that I am comfortable arguing for removal. There are quite a few organizations that I am not comfortable adding to this list as I don't have much or any familiarity with them and I'll personally err on the side of

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Glad to hear it. This way of wording it isn't my preferred compromise, since I think it sounds a bit awkward, but at this point I just want to find something that everyone can agree on, so ultimately I'll support it if that seems to be the consensus. Robminchin has also voiced support for this option

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Again, there was no consensus for either of the proposed positions. So again, in the collaborative spirit of Knowledge, we’re trying to work out a compromise that everyone will be at least somewhat satisfied with. You’re not required to work with other users if you’re not interested in trying to find

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guideline, a relevant quote is "The central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to Knowledge pages in a hierarchy of categories which readers, knowing essential—defining—characteristics of a topic, can browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those

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The only place where residences are mentioned in the current guidelines is that 'residence life' falls under the 'student life' section, so many articles have student housing under student life. The campus section is supposed to give the overall size and layout of the campus and to include important

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The first two questions seem to be straight forward. There are several institutions that have a presence in multiple countries so we would need to account for that. I think that there should there be some consideration for the size and scope of the presence for that country to be included e.g., only

6093:. I further noted in a subsequent comment that there are eight examples of California in the UK per the wp subjects disambig page. I am a fastidious inclusionist of the name of nations to relevant articles, and would be pleased to learn of the consensus within this area so I may not go against same. 5954:

isn't, for example. I do appreciate that the All India Institutes of Medical Sciences are very important institutions, not just in India but internationally. However, there's a lot to do on our article on the Jodhpur institute. Grammar and style need to be checked. The article doesn't yet conform to

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for example, state that "In addition to printed academic work, research outputs may include, but are not limited to: new materials, devices, images, artefacts, products and buildings; confidential or technical reports; intellectual property, whether in patents or other forms; performances, exhibits

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Number of publications is a commonly understandable measure, as many resources use this raw measure (e.g., profiles of individual researchers on Google Scholar and other platforms). However, I suggest something to cover the quality as well as quantity, such as the number of publications in reputable

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Faculty: Persons identified by the institution as such and typically those whose initial assignments are made for the purpose of conducting instruction, research or public service as a principal activity (or activities). They may hold academic rank titles of professor, associate professor, assistant

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NACADEMIC does mean that a long established Oxbridge chair will have had a number of notable occupants, which is not necessarily the case for a less major institution. I think that makes a list like the Corpus Christi Professor of Latin at Oxford useful, but I don't know what an AfD discussion would

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I have to disagree that we should remove all mention of dining services from the article. Nearly all students are on the meal plan and eat nearly all of their meals from the dining halls, so it's a major aspect of student life. Dining services also employs a sizable percentage of Pomona's staff. The

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There is a bit of a challenge in that many journalists appear to be content to copy or follow an institution's self-description without any critical analysis or context; I suspect this is even more common for local journalists or those who don't specialize in education particularly higher education.

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It has been my experience that a minority of articles have this kind of information. My best guess is that it's another symptom of having so few higher education experts and scholars editing these articles; this is the kind of information that is not likely to be of interest to students, alumni, and

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I'm perfectly fine with us adhering to different standards for institutions in different countries. In the U.S., it's nearly universal for semesters or quarters to be labeled with the prevalent season e.g., winter, spring, summer, or fall. I don't think the capitalization matters so we should follow

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I'd say that it is okay to use "fall" in this context as it is referring to the fall semester at a US institution. I would say it would be more in keeping with Knowledge style not to capitalise – fall semester is a formal period but is still a generic name, like president, rather than a formal title

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The space-grant isn't really less important (AFAIK, and I really don't know much about academic groups) than some of the other affiliations that tend to be listed in that parameter, so I don't think it's really a problem in the short term to add it. But it does just highlight the longer-term problem

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I think your point is very reasonable and it's one that has occurred to me several times as I've done this work. I've erred on the side of consistently including this information in the "academic_affiliations" parameter (a) to be consistent among all of these articles and (b) to avoid having to make

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I'm sorry to hear that you felt shouted at. I think that various users here got a bit worked up in advocating for their respective views, but I'm hoping that we can keep things civil going forward. I'm glad to hear that you'd be happy with various compromises though, and I'd be interested in hearing

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The obvious compromise is to use both. The exact way in which this is best worded can be discussed: a state-related public university, a public (state-related) university, or some other option. Using both together would seem to go a long way to addressing the issues encountered by either term on its

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The problem here is that binary categorization will always lead to problems with edge cases (for the US I am happy to agree that these are edge cases; outside the US I think the problem can be far more fundamental). The two extreme positions are to insist on binary (but inaccurate) categorization or

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I voted in the previous RfC about Pitt, but my view has changed somewhat. "State-related" is indecipherable jargon, and it would be absurd to have it as the unique relevant descriptor. Public is well-supported by sources, and I note (for example) that describes Temple as public and does not use the

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Choose an article at URFA/2020 or FAR and bring it back to FA standards. Enlist the help of the original nominator, frequent FA reviewers, WikiProjects listed on the talk page, or editors that have written similar topics. When the article returns to FA standards, please mark it as 'Satisfactory' at

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My feeling is that historically important controversies belong in the history section, while controversies that aren't historically important probably don't belong at all. There may be occasional exceptions for events that are active and are actually important enough to justify mention, rather than

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Additionally, I've noticed that one or more editors added information to multiple articles about institutions listed in a ranking of "Worst Colleges for LGBTQ Students" or something along those lines. That information, like any other ranking or categorization, needs to be accompanied by the date on

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Continuing for a moment with the example of London, I can't believe that anyone looking at an article on a university in London (the British one) wouldn't know that London is in Britain. (Except perhaps very young inhabitants of London, Ont.) Pointing out that London is in England or Britain or the

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When applying for a faculty position, your application will not be even taken seriously without a strong record of publications (in scholarly journals), at least in 80% of disciplines. The same happens when applying for a research grant. The guideline you mentioned simply try to support other forms

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mentioned. You may argue the number of publications does not represent the institution's level of research. Similarly, the number of students as mentioned in the Infobox does not represent education. So much the worse, the definition of the number of students varies from source to source: part-time

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I know that the Carnegie classification takes research into account, and that's often at least in the lead. To go in the infobox, the measures would have to be both important and representative of an institution's level of research. I think we could certainly do more in the body beyond just listing

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We recently deprecated "administrative staff" because of ambiguity concerns and replaced it with "total staff". I don't think we'd want to do the same for faculty, because for many institutions in the U.S. and some other countries it has a pretty well-defined meaning. But if you're working on pages

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The big issue with notable people sections is that they tend to be too long. Galleries can make it worse. An individual alum is barely ever notable enough to warrant more than a brief mention, especially in the context of an institution as venerated as Princeton. My suggestion, if you can manage to

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Regarding the broader question, one reasonable proxy for what counts as "major" is whether or not it's been accredited by a reputable accreditor. For CIIS, the institution overall has been accredited by an expected accreditor, but it unfortunately for your case, it looks like the psychology program

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Unless there is something exceptional, this does not seem like information that belongs in our articles. I get that we all have to eat and many undergraduate students have - and are sometimes required to have, at least for a year or two - meal plans but I don't think that means that we need details

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Apologies for butting but I suspect that this has to do both with U.S. culture and access to U.S. higher education. I suspect - but defer to those who are more culturally and historically informed - that the United States purports to allow more class and wealth advancement than many other countries

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Although I have several books that he has written I don't have any special knowledge of Thelin. He's a prominent and prolific scholar who is among the most well-known in his field so it shouldn't be hard to find information about him for anyone who wants to expand his article. I'd be happy to offer

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You have said "many institutions" but have not qualified it with whether you are talking in a world-wide context or a specific country. In Australia, we always called them term 1/2/3/4 (for primary and secondary schools) or semester 1/2 (for universities). And of course, if we did refer to a season

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Just saw this. I have no objection. I concur in your position that such information is relatively minor and should not be in the infoboxes for American universities. Almost everyone in American higher education has at least a vague idea of what is a "land-grant university" but most of them have no

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I appreciate you raising this question so we can come to an explicit agreement on the way forward. The standard practice in a case like this is to keep the status quo ante and I don't see much reason to depart from that practice. It's a disservice to our readers and ignores the experts who actually

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If you feel NSF Funding, specific year of ranking (ranked#119) and Carnegie classifications are relevant, that's totally a legitimate view too. People in the academia tend to be wary about Carnegie Classifications, as it does a terrible job of defining research, varies year by year, are based on a

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But looking at that list, I'm not sure it's actually as helpful as it seems. The core question that a reader looking at this sort of information is probably asking is, what is the academic focus of this institution? E.g. is it mostly a STEM school, or is it very artsy, or something else? That list

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For the masters degree Thesis, it is the only place that I've found information on degrees offered and accreditations at various times by TCI. I've looked at the references for Eliza Cooper Blaker. Almost inevitable that there would be crossover in sources, it was basically her entire life for her

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I'm aware that this is very much angels on the head of a pin territory... For that chair I wouldn't move it to "Professor of Astrophysics (Cambridge, 1901)" but rather would move it to "Professor of Astrophysics (Cambridge)" and include in the same article information on the several chairs sharing

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of economic and other prominence is perhaps usable as a rough guide to which cities are best known. I wouldn't specify the nation for any of them, or for any of a bunch of others (Buenos Aires, Hamburg, Jo'burg, Lagos, Milan, Petersburg, Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, Zürich...) that somehow don't get

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I would oppose this in general. We are aiming to write bios that stand the test of time: in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years someone's 2020 salary will have no meaning. Also, unlike say, a birthday, just a plain number here imparts almost no information/context on which to be informed. In addition to

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The ranking services already factor academic reputation into their rankings (e.g. instructors' memberships in prestigious societies, papers published, etc.). As long as the rankings are taken seriously by the public, they should be included. How would one express a "reputation" otherwise, in a way

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As mentioned before, this is just a provisional change that was made with the aim of finding a workable solution, since it seemed like a balanced way of addressing the various concerns raised previously. My hope is that this was a modest compromise which reflected the gradually emerging consensus,

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I think this gives a better overall picture. My one qualm is that, as you pointed out, these categories appear to have been institution-defined, so I'm not sure how easily comparable they'd be to others. If NCES or another government body has any very broad groupings like this, I think giving the

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So after sounding off about University of Bristol I have bothered to look at that article, which is GA, and which we list as a model. The halls of residence are in Student life, and I am half-convinced, as the information in there mixes facts about the buildings and facts about student use of the

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nearly all students live on campus for all four years in one of the college's sixteen residence halls. All first-year students live on South Campus, and most third- and fourth-year students live on North Campus. Housing is offered in various configurations, including singles, one-room or two-room

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If we go down this road, I strongly prefer consistency i.e., we include country for every article. But I understand that it's common practice in many venues to omit country when there is an assumption that readers probably know it and I would not be surprised if that were the consensus here, too.

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I agree that it is not easy to measure the research output, but the number of publications is a fairly standard measure, though there is an attempt to add more factors such as the impact of publications. However, many universities report their number of research publications as a measure of their

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However, things get more complicated when it comes to names of faculties, departments, and other subdivisions of universities. These might or might not be capitalised depending on whether they are being used as a proper name, e.g. 'Alliance Manchester Business School' but 'the business school at

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would stop making unilateral changes (reverting the recommendation of the Pitt RfC, tinkering with the infobox during his own CSHE RfC) and implementing compromises without input from much of the community, even if it was provisional. I understand it wasn't the outcome you were hoping for, but at

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is not incorrect in its application here (since it receives state funds and receives preferential treatment by the Commonwealth) and is a term that is familiar to all readers. State-related is a technical term used only in these cases, so it warrants an explanation. I think there should be a note

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While there's no ban, such sources should – per normal Knowledge policy – actually state what they are claimed to state. The THE ranking does not, for instance, support a claim of anything other than the current position of that institution in the THE ranking and does not support any claim to be

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I agree that we could operationalize this in three separate questions: (a) Should country be required in the short description for each article about a college, university, or other postsecondary education institution? (b) Should country be required in the first sentence for each article about a

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No, the University of Mississippi article must not be promoted as a model for other articles as it makes gratuitous use of the institution's racist nickname. The article should have never been promoted to "Good" status and the editors involved in editing it and promoting it should be admonished.

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On a more personal note, this is a big one. Having one FA for a major U.S. research university is the absolute bare minimum this project needs to be able to set an example, and this is our last one. I hope many folks from this project will join in to help get it back in sparkling shape so it can

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institutions, is so prominent (massive budget, large staff, ridiculously high public profile and public interest, etc.) that it warrants its own section. I don't know if it's better for us to strive for consistency and keep this as a section for all U.S. colleges and universities or if we should

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still applies. More generally, if an academic (working on a relevant field) has put their name to it, it's likely to be reliable, but this might be open for discussion – I would tend towards treating such sources as monographs, unless obviously biased or problematic but YMMV. Stuff pumped out by

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The point was not to try to make this UK-centric, just explaining why we have the current selection we have from there; that there was some order to it. It may make sense to trim it, but I don't currently see the need. I think the underlying point, that showcase articles should show a variety of

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I'd be completely fine considering my first wave of edits as an initial step with further refinements. I already know that these associations don't often seem to be in cogent order in the template so it would be nice if someone can go through and at least place them in alphabetical order at some

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I'd say that, in both cases, some judgement is required. For the book, search JSTOR for some reviews to see if reviewers note any missing elements (such reviews can also be a good place to find reliable statements about the school's academic reputation). For the dissertation, it depends on what

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I think the world has greater pleasures for us than debating whether (1909) is an official part of the title or merely the university's standard disambiguator, and I'm happy to make an agglomerated article which makes the matter moot! The grace thing is charming, you can almost hear the implied

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For U.S. institutions, I don't know offhand of a single metric or publication that describes total research output and has large scale acceptance in the academy. Many articles already include some of the disparate sources that provide a partial summary or some kind of proxy e.g., total external

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President/The Ohio State University His biography reports on only negative aspects of his 30-year career in academia. I have added a sourced edit in order to add balance. If you have time to review or share feedback, I would appreciate it. I hope to add some content in other areas of his bio as

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Combine the two terms in the opening sentence. There are a number of different ways this could be done (such as "state-related, public university" or "public, state-related university" or "state-related university in the public Commonwealth System of Higher Education" or "public university with

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I would be very wary of citing a master's thesis especially one that is that old. A master's thesis does not receive as much review as a doctoral dissertation and other kinds of peer-reviewed, published scholarship. If the only source you can cite for something is this obscure then perhaps the

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the "1909" isn't a disambiguator on Knowledge, but rarher part of the title of the position. It's actually a local disambiguator there to distinguish it from the Professor of Astrophysics (2009) and the Professor of Astrophysics (2011), but forms part of the title as used by the current holder

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Where did I suggest creating metrics or rankings? I just suggested including commonly understandable numbers such as the number of publications and citations for the sake of comparison. There is no shortage of sources for the number of publications and citations. Every publication database can

5427:, generally it is a good idea to check notability first to save your own time and the reviewer's. If you can establish notability under GNG or NPROF, then you can help the reviewer and potentially speed up the review by adding a section on notabilityb to the article talk page. An essay called 554:

Thanks for pinging me to this discussion earlier; my 2c are similar to my comment in the RfC, namely, that "state-related" is an accurate but extremely jargon-y term, and using it as a stand-alone descriptor is bad for that reason. A great many options that have been discussed do better, and

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are catch-all umbrella terms, not technical ones. Harvard is private but receives plenty of public funds. Most public universities receive private funds and have some degree of autonomy from the state. Both are spectrums. If we start to carve out exceptions for each state system, it becomes a

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I agree it shouldn't be dominated by any one country; I was pointing out that this is a significant type of UK university that wasn't represented in the list given. I suspect it will be unavoidable that most examples are from English speaking countries, but I think it would be better to add

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your thoughts on the compromise currently under discussion if you'd be interested in talking about it. I think the conversation has been taking a more conciliatory tone recently, and it goes without saying that users shouting at or heckling each other won't be tolerated at this point. --

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doesn't really help answer that very well, since what it shows is just big departments. E.g. computer science is such a hot field right now, it's going to be a big department at any traditional college/university, and ditto for economics, which is a perennially popular since everyone

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I agree that compromise is clearly necessary and that God arguments have been made on both sides. "Public" is correct, but potentially misleading in a US context, while "state-related" is correct but is a sub-category of public and is a technical term the meaning of which is far from

6248:. I agree that this line of questioning should apply to any physical or geographic entity, not just colleges and universities, but that is much broader than my experience, my expertise, and the remit of this project, so I would like to keep this focused on colleges and universities. 5545:

Thanks! I agree that many of these articles, particularly those that were promoted many years ago when the standards were different and have not been well maintained, need to be reviewed and likely delisted, but it's disheartening to see it happening to so many articles so quickly.

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page had NSF Funding, specific year of ranking (ranked#119) and Carnegie classifications, which itself is based on HERD. I raised objection to it, based on the same rationale from ElKevbo, but he claimed that he's powerless to delete that, since he never edits his own employer's

5330:. (It is a proprietary number from a publisher, which may for example tend to emphasize numbers from that publisher.) We sometimes add some similar indices to articles on academic journals, but the numbers that are worth including are better established and less proprietary. 6225:

For myself, per my understanding of the function of an infobox, I would prefer that the inclusion of the nation is in the lead, as the infobox should only contain data that is in the article. Using the infobox only, especially as it does not render in all media, defeats this.

92: 4774: 521:"state-related, public university" or "public, state-related university" are both good options. Accurate and clear (public is self-explanatory, and state-related can be hyperlinked). I'd like to hear arguments against this compromise, if not I think it should be implemented. 8933:

is hardly "constant changes" and regardless, while they make updates every three years, most university's Carnegie classifications rarely change, it's just that there are a lot of American universities, so a small percentage of changes is still a decent number of changes.

2719:, but the criticism article doesn't say much about why their methodology is flawed. The other qualities you mention seem to be ones that can be included in the History or Academics sections, without putting them in the Rankings section, or changing that section's heading. 1908:

An editor who has begun editing the article has begun making personal attacks so I'm removing the article from my watchlist and moving on. Apologies for not sticking with it longer to help out but I'm going to spend my free time arguing with someone who is so unpleasant.

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For your particularly situation, most academics that are notable via C5 and have published several books are also notable via GNG through reviews of those books. I would look for those if you haven't already. If you and Hoary continue to disagree, you have the option of

8814:) that "it is sometimes permissible to note an article subject's reputation when that reputation is widespread and informative to readers". Taken together, these set a pretty high bar to inclusion, which (of the articles I've looked at) only Harvard potentially meets. 5161:- if there is a consensus to do so. So if someone believes this information should be included in articles, they need to (a) find where it has already been compiled and published and (b) propose or pilot a way to add it to articles in a way that works for most editors. 6720: 3574:

Pretty sure we should include it. Dining is an aspect of college that people will research, so a Knowledge page should help address that by at least including some information on it. While we don't need a menu or anything, it should be mentioned under student life.

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I think this could belong in the history section or perhaps elsewhere but I agree that a separate, dedicated section is probably not the best place for this information in most articles. Feel free to move the information or propose moving it in the articles' Talk

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Looking at a selection of British university articles, it appears almost all already include country information (most often the constituent country but sometimes United Kingdom), including the London institutions (where ElKevbo's suggestion wouldn't require it).

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journals. Something like Nature Index, but more scientific, as Nature Index has a commercial weight attached to it by covering a specific journal. In any case, research input should be definitely covered, as the battle of research is raging on in higher education.

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IP editor, This is the talk page for discussing WikiProject Higher education and anything related to its purposes and tasks, so it is the wrong place for your question. You may find an answer on the college's website or in the Knowledge article about the college,

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characteristics." I think, following Merriam-Webster as a guide to common US English usage, most people would not consider the president to be faculty (unless also a professor) and so would not expect to find presidents, as a group, in a sub-category of faculty.

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feedback if anyone has specific questions. (I'd also place Roger Geiger on the same plane as Thelin; they're probably the two most well-known historians of U.S. higher education particularly among those who write broad, era-spanning, and synthetic histories.)

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It may be useful to think about the other information about critical services that institutions provide and are used by students on a daily basis but is not included in articles e.g., who provides the custodial services, the source of their drinking water.

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This is an issue I've pondered before, and I have a few thoughts. First, it applies to any geographic entity, not just colleges, so this may not be a wide enough venue. Second, there are actually three separate questions: do you include the country in the

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My comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek — given that the Berytus article is mostly historical, and that it also may not be totally up to par as it hasn't been reviewed since 2013, I'm not sure how useful it'll be. But glad to hear you're pushing forward!

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I'm not too fussed by the order or what exactly, just that they are all GAs/FAs. If you look at the UK ones, they were selected to show the range of article coverage someone should head towards as they were all GA+ at time of making the original list:

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or similar to make your editorial decision clear to readers. The second is to just leave it out and use total staff instead. That would be a perfectly reasonable choice—the existence of a parameter doesn't mean it's mandatory to use it all the time.

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I don't think I disagree with Hoary. I had my moments of clarity after such discussions in past on other complex situations. So I guess I am only trying to find a conclusive answer here. Will follow your advise and see where it leads us. Thank you.

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tag to the talk page. Overall, you want to think about it (and find sourcing for it) at the broadest level — what kinds of institutions tend to have shuttles? What countries? Do they tend to contract them out or run them in-house? Etc. Cheers,

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I'm not all that familiar with the ranking methodologies, but I assume that each measures several quantities, as well as there usually being more than one ranking service shown for any particular school. The ranking that's complained about is

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I'm not sure that a neutral measure of research output exists. If it does, I haven't seen it in discussions on bibliometrics within academia yet. So while it would be nice to have something like this in the infobox, it's not really feasible.

7234: 7217: 6319: 5924: 4849:. Of course, this is still very influential, also in Germany, but on the other hand, there is also a trend to have some kind of "teaching only" and "research only" staff. So your description of the developments also fits to those in Germany. 4452:– A few other editors any myself have been slowly overhauling this page. I know it still needs a lot of work but I'm not entirely sure what I could do. I would really appreciate a peer review to help identify what improvements can be made. 2305: 584:

Folks, I thought it was pretty plain that a lot of spoke up, made it clear we think we are in a good place, and then left. If you felt you had a good compromise after it was clear what everyone's thoughts were, you should have pinged folks

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Yeah, I agree. It's important to have FAs to use as models for the project. If there are some that are mostly good but just have a few flaws, it may be worth it to try to save them, but most of the ones so far have at least one big issue.

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Yes, this is a chance from my earlier position that the initial description should contain only high-level, easily understandable categories. I think this departure is justified by the need for consensus on order to move ahead here.

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Appreciate the advice. I did remove the gallery that was on the page as I agreed with the mentality that they are less productive than helpful. Will start gathering sourcing for that and will attempt your suggestion. Thanks again!

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The concerns about enduringness are valid. But to look at it from the other side, we do include other information that needs annual updates, e.g. endowment sizes. And there's FA precedent for including salary information at e.g.

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I'm not sure that question c about the infobox is necessary as it already appears to be the common practice. But it could not hurt to include it to firmly document this practice and make it a recommendation supported by a clear

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I don't think I disagree with you either. (Incidentally, I rather think that it's the job of the writer of the draft to point to reviews in journals of the biographee's books, not the job of the reviewer to look for these.) --

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I agree completely, and it seems like most of the other editors participating here do too. So far there haven't been any objections since the edits were introduced, so I'm hopeful that we've finally found a solution that works.

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The template for a default sort key for a professorship is "Professor of , , , ". For general-interest categories, that results in professorships being found under 'p', then sorted by subject, then title, then university, then

7560:! It's surprising we don't already have an article on shuttle buses. University shuttles should definitely be included in the article, but I'm not sure they're quite central enough to the topic for it to make sense to add the 6252:

college, university, or other postsecondary education institution? and (c) Should country be required do you include it in the infobox for each article about a college, university, or other postsecondary education institution?

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types, is helpful to guide article writing, given an article on an ancient/Ivy-League/collegiate/etc. university or a college might need to cover different points to one on a modern or a unitary university. Also, I would add

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So no, I won't apologize for trying to extend an olive branch to those on both sides of the RfC, nor will I "withdraw" this informal discussion post (whatever that means). I would recommend that you reacquaint yourself with

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These schools and colleges certainly have enough notability to have their own pages, the references section may not make that clear. More citations are patently necessary, but that's no reason for deletion, just more work.

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I completely agree that most noteworthy controversies belong in the history section where they can properly be placed into a larger historical context (what led to the controversy, what lasting impact did it have, etc.).

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They are publicly available data. Editors can decide on choosing a database as the main reference. There is no weight, these are absolute numbers. We do not create a metric here, just reporting what is commonly known to

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Looking at Purdue's article, it's in pretty decent shape compared to many other institutions. I'd recommend slimming down the notable alumni section and adding more references, particularly to secondary sources. Cheers,

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I had a look through the various Ivy League (and similar level) university articles. Only Harvard has a claim properly backed up with sources. The others should either have their sources improved or the claims removed.

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Tell-tale sign of student editors haha; if the style problem is bad enough, you can tag the pages. I went ahead and tagged the interventions page for globalization, as it doesn't try to restrict its scope in the title.

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Each of these three programs - sea-, space-, and sun-grant - divides their members into subgroups so we could conceivably note something more specific than the large, national program for many of the institutions e.g.,

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venue, we're back here again? I'm beginning to regret having ever said anything in the first place, since it seems like I'm going to keep getting paged back to this merry-go-round every couple months for who knows how

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on a college, I wanted to include something on the religious demographics of the student body, but the college did not collect or publish that information in any official capacity, so I ended up using a thesis for it.

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keeping organizations when in doubt. If we get really ambitious about this we could always ask if someone more technically inclined can create a list of organizations in these parameters with frequencies of inclusion.

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system that can be easily gamed. You can read up more about these stories surrounding the recent Texas public universities' push for R1 classifications. But again, you have a good point and I have restored the edit.

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demonstrable nod towards notability, but then I'm an inclusionist. I am, however, happy to decruft articles, such as removing lists of officers of societies, which tends to be the most overt form of promotionalism.

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I think that I gave up trying to edit that article because of the persistent POV pushers who have dominated the article for some time now. It may be time to ask other editors for help at another noticeboard e.g.,

6114:, do you include it in the first sentence, and do you include it in the infobox? I think the argument is perhaps strongest for the infobox, because putting it there doesn't interrupt the flow of text or cause a 2387:

At some level, this depends on what you call "published by the university itself". Serious academic works published by an academic press owned by the university in question I would use without hesitation (e.g.

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universities from other countries than to miss out major categories of university. However, it looks, as I suspected, that none of the articles on post-1992 universities are rated as particularly high quality.

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I'm happy with the status quo. I'm happy with a wide variety of compromises. But I am not happy about being shouted at when I write things here, which is why I have largely stopped bothering wth participating.

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own – it is made clear that these do not follow the normal meaning of "public" in the US, while the term "state-related" is placed within its category and users are primed to look for further information later.

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note that generally Division III should be a subsection and Division I should be a section. I'm not familiar enough with Division II to know whether it's more similar to I or to III; what's your view on that?

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For the book, the review in the Indiana Magazine of History seems to feel that it occasionally too comprehensive and could use some trimming. Not the worst review for a book to be referenced on Knowledge.

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For the 2021 graduation cohort, 21 percent of students majored in the arts and humanities, 40 percent in the natural sciences, 25 percent in the social sciences, and 15 percent in interdisciplinary fields.

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Use the term "state-related" in the first sentence, then later in the opening paragraph, say something like "...XYZ became a public university when it joined the Commonwealth System of Higher Education in

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We cannot have both quality and quantity in a single measure. We have to report two different measures side by side. The Nature Index will favor a specific range of universities who regularly publish in

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more FAs can be indicated as "FAR not needed" if other reviewers will have a look at those already indicated as maintained by the original nominator. If you find issues, you can enter them at the talk

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From a UK point of view, it is quite an important feature of the university campus whether it includes halls of residence or not. It is what gives a complete different character to a university like

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Implemented. I'll try to remember to check in a week or few to see if it has much impact on the number of views UNIGUIDE gets. If it doesn't move the needle much, we could consider bolding the link.

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I don't think it makes any sense to present biographical information about a president at a university page. Such pages typically warrant only a sentence or two about the president, so we'd run into

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Yes, I agree with that logic. I suppose other sections in which there might be a relevant controversy are Campus and Student life, and those sections could be a home for the information. Thank you.

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I more-or-less agree with Chris, though with a bit less ferver. But yeah, I think we need to let it sit for a while and see if things change in a bit (as ElKevbo suggests). I'd say wait a year?

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It subdivides these for some purposes into "teaching only", "research only", "teaching and research" and "neither teaching not research", but these subdivisions aren't important for our purposes.

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While I agree in principle that probably isn't going to work in this case. Prepare the article in your sandbox and then move it over the redirect once it's clearly too big for the main article.

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This was discussed at the schools project, and the consensus there was that such images were not appropriate in alumni sections in high school articles (but OK in stand-alone alumni lists). See

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Yeah, I'm definitely leaning toward the 150th as the better, but the Master's Dissertation appears to have a lot of useful information as well, that I can at least try to crosscheck. Note the

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for countries where its meaning is not well-defined, you have two main options. The first is to choose whichever definition you think will be most helpful to readers, and then to include an

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One thing that you could do that would be very helpful and where you wouldn't have to worry about due weight or datedness would be to import the salaries to Wikidata. I've done an example

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For more specific categories, omit as much of the template as appropriate. e.g. for a category holding professorships at a specific university, the template would become ", , ".

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Articles certainly terms to be better without it. But I think the important principle is that any such statements need to be properly sourced and not be synthesis, noting (per

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Having a quick look around, the section is well represented in UK university articles (I didn't manage to find one which didn't have at least a section on the organisation).

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and take some time to reflect on why you've decided to be openly hostile to another editor acting in good faith. After that, feel free to come back and apologize yourself. --

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That means there may be other accepted reasons and I would argue that groups mentioned in NACADEMIC, such as holders of named chairs at major institutions are also notable.

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Done some little work trying to disentangle categories for people who hold professorships from categories for professorships themselves, but this is nowhere near complete.

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It can just be merged with the article on the institute, keeping only those few people who are notable enough for their own articles. Like any other small HE institution.

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It's always great when Wikipedians argue against what is in documents produced by experts based on their own beliefs. It makes it explicit that what they are proposing is

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Normal sort key rules about names and numbers apply within these blocks, so use "Professor of Executions, Charles 1, King" for the King Charles I Professor of Executions.

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I'd be fascinated to know if any closed college had made it to FAC. If someone wants to take a crack at extending it to FAC after I get the basics, they can have fun. :)

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but issues raised on talk have not been addressed. Sometimes nominating at FAR draws additional editors to help improve the article that would otherwise not look at it.

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It's trivia. Delete it: this is something I'd expect to see on the college's website in material aimed at prospective students, but I don't see how it's encyclopedic.

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For the infobox, I would say chartered, but if there's a significant difference, note both. For the body, note both. For the lead, there's probably some discretion.

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Assuming that this ends up getting delisted, that'll leave us with only five remaining FAs for full institutions (as opposed to subpages). All in the United States.

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I'm fine with renaming the section and encouraging editors to write it with a broader focus. Do you have any thoughts or a draft of how this should be reflected in

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Quickly following up, a good solution that didn't occur to me until it was pointed out is just writing "as of the fall 2020 semester" instead of "as of fall 2020".

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Getting article reviewed and published for a university in Nigeria (Mewar International University and 19 more recently approved and launched by the Nigerian Govt)

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probably has a strong enough claim to notability that the page would be kept if nominated for deletion. I can't make any guarantees, but that's my educated guess.

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I am opposed to a compromise, as if Drevolt will only accept "public" and might allow an explanatory footnote. That this issue has been brought up again smacks of

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In the student life section, the first subsection is on residential life, and the first paragraph of that discusses how the college's housing system works — e.g.

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as redundant in context (same precedent as for constituent colleges and sports programmes). Some generic titles are pre-emptively disambiguated in this way, e.g.

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Bumping this. It's now moved to a FARC, but there haven't been many issues identified. If anyone wants an easy FA star, this shouldn't be a hard article to save.

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as that is something unique to its mission as a service academy, including the very odd fact that the institution has its own dairy farm that the institution has

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It does seem that the partial looking is wrong. Possibly it could be made less redundant by re-wording, e.g. "The George C. S. Benson Auditorium, named after the

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Use one term in the opening sentence with an appended explanatory footnote which uses the other term in explaining the nuanced status of universities in the CSHE.

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about the institution's food services. An example of something that I would think worth mentioning would be the college-wide meals shared by the students at the

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It seems like many of the FAs associated with this project have been pushed through a review recently. Is this just confirmation bias, weird timing, or what?

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for these subjects to be independently notable and have their own articles? (A quick glance shows the answer to be "no" in most or all cases, in my opinion.)

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Should we address whether the country should or must be linked? In my experience, there is not consistency. I typically remove links to "United States" with

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explaining it in the 'Governance' section, but the lede should use the term 'public' since it is accurate (albeit not the most technical) and familiar. Both

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In this specific case, where such a statement is being added by someone at the institution in question, it's also likely to be a conflict of interest edit.

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Thank you very much for the detailed explanation, and thank you for your sentence "Academic staff ... both teach and conduct research", reminding me of the

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Thanks, that's helpful. I managed to write out what I think is a decent org/admin section, although there weren't really many secondary sources available.

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I've again been standardising towards the most-common existing practice: adding the name of the University/institution in parenthesis, omitting the words

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Also, I'm just going to go ahead and ping everyone who was previously involved in related discussions, please feel free to ping anyone else who I missed:

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222 FAs were kept at FAR or deemed "satisfactory" by three URFA reviewers, with hundreds more being marked as "satisfactory", but awaiting three reviews.

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It seems to me that due to the differences between universities in the UK and in Germany, it is hard to translate the term "academic staff" correctly. "

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As this seems to be a recurring issue, perhaps we should hold an RfC or similar to settle it and have something firm to point to whenever it comes up.

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chair which is university-wide, not specific to a subject like psychology. You may look at the WASC website for CIIS University accreditation status (

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Proposed removal of "sea-grant," "sun-grant," and "space-grant" from infobox "type" parameter and lede sentence of all college and university articles

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Appreciate the ping. Life is a little busy at the moment, but I'll try to help out wit the FAs/GAs, as well as other universities I'm interested in.

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It should certainly have to be established that this was a defining characteristic of the institution, and the presumption should be that it is not.

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says (which I think is "use lower-case" as Sdkb and Robminchin note above). It might be good to get some expert guidance from editors who frequent

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a consensus, but many other users are clearly interested in talking this issue through and trying to come up with a balanced compromise together. —

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the chairs and to mention the date issue. I hadn't noticed the amazing "Engineering (1966, Grace 5 of 1 December 1965)", so thanks for that!

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Knowledge editors cannot be in the business of creating metrics or rankings on their own. We can report what others have written - if they're

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as there is an entire section by a paid editor. I have seen this before, and there is a long history of paid people editing Knowledge with a

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As for the book reviews kindly look at the References section of the draft article that is being discussed (Links #10, #6, #7, #17, #20) - (

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issues extremely quickly. Leaving it standalone, by contrast, gives it appropriate room to grow. This really seems quite cut-and-dry to me.

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You've done work with featured articles in this area. How is this handled and viewed by editors and reviewers in that part of the project?

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appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon

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fact that the services are run in-house is mildly noteworthy, as it's much more common for institutions to contract out to a provider like

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Yes it does! Yeah, updating would be a lot easier for a school that closed in 1930. I'll try to push on with the article over the weekend.

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doesn't exist yet, so what I would do would be to expand the scope to that, take out all the presumably non-notable redlinks, and add an

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Thanks for doing that. It's true that the bot has no way to know if the university infobox is used on an article about a non-university.

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policies." So if an editor is interpreting "being in the top 50 most selective" as "among the most selective", this is almost certainly

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as an example, in the campus section the residence halls are covered as buildings, but most of them don't get individual mention — e.g.

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I'm done with the sea-grant members and halfway done with the space-grant members so I kind of wish you had said something earlier... :)

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is a little less fleshed out than some other notability realms, but the key thing is whether or not the list items have been discussed

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I would say so. Anyone who has ever been on a college tour knows how much schools emphasize (or should I say sell) dining amenities. ~

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University of Illinois College of Agriculture, Consumer, and Environmental Sciences (New Mexico State has a college of the same name)

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Talk:UT Arlington Mavericks § Proposed merge of University of Texas at Arlington Rebel theme controversy into UT Arlington Mavericks

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the page directly to mainspace, letting Hoary nominate it for deletion, and then making your case at the deletion nomination page.

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but I can't say for sure. If anyone feels that's not the case, let's talk it through and see if we can find more common ground. --

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There was pretty much zero consistency here (articles variously sorted by subject, title, year or with no key), so I've been

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Generally, locations should be included up to the narrowest geographic region widely recognizable on an international scale.

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Oh, an athletics page might be another category we'd want to highlight. Anyone know what our best options for that might be?

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That's fair. At least within the U.S. context, the NCAA divisions give us a very helpful dividing line. I'd be fine with a

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as my rationale. But I would personally prefer to include the link and make this consistent across all of these articles.

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The numbers we use for UK universities come from the Higher Education Statistics Agency, which defines academic staff as:

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Did you mean to submit it to Articles for Creation? (It doesn't seem to be so submitted.) It's a bit undersourced and

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Youkay either insults the intelligence of the readers or suggests that the writers are bonkers, or both. London aside,

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The “good place” I saw was a slight consensus not to bend facts to fit categories; not sure I’m seeing that here now.

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A 150th anniversary book about Butler University written in 2006 by a retired History Professor of Butler University

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All India Institute of Medical Sciences, Jodhpur, India needs to be reviewed for High Importance in Higher Education

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suggests quoting your three strongest sources so the reviewer doesn't need to search for them. You could also read

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Titling the subsection "Rankings and reputation" rather than just "Rankings" may help to encourage a broader scope.

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A Thesis/Dissertation for a Masters degree from Butler University in 1946 about Teachers College of Indianapolis.

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our guidelines for structure. An easy first step would be to add something about the campus(es), and some photos.

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The campus parameter has been split. Please help spread the change to new articles: just change the existing e.g.

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And once we decide on which pages we're selecting, we should make sure they're all tagged on their talk page with

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which the ranking was made; this helps readers and editors understand if the information is current or outdated.

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As far as I can see, no or very few individual institutions are rated as "high importance" in this WikiProject.

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there is a presidents' accomplishments' in a college's history and their name in the infobox/governance section.

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Knowledge:Featured list removal candidates/List of Nobel laureates affiliated with Princeton University/archive2

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Thanks for the ping again. Updated the Princeton page, and I'll try to work on some of the good articles soon.

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It would be good to have a modern (post-1992) university example for the UK as well, if any have GA+ articles.

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University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine (many with the same name, also terribly in need of work)

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There are other definitions that may be relevant to your question if you look in the glossary linked above.

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University of Illinois School of Labor and Employment Relations (Penn State has a college of the same name)

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University of Illinois College of Fine and Applied Arts (Appalachian State has a college of the same name)

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debate and I doubt we can say much more than that. I tend to support keeping such articles where there is

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Also in favor of a compromise. 'public, state-related' or 'state-related, public' work well in the lede.

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University Name Change - Ryerson University to Toronto Metropolitan University - Discussion at WP:Canada

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Someone else feel free to chime in. IMHO, this is a malformed FAR. Feel free to check me on this one.

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How's this for a sentence to insert at the end of the academics bullet in the article layout section?

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research strength. It is much easier to measure the research output rather than education excellence.

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by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a

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Let's hope we can avoid another delist. Our featured content is not trending in a good direction...

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Request for comment on the naming of Category:Faculty by university or college and its subcategories

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URFA/2020 archives show 357, which does not include those delisted which were featured after 2015;

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FAs needing review were reduced from 77% of total FAs at the end of 2020 to 64% at the end of 2022.

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A row of four residence halls is south of Bonita Avenue, with Frank Dining Hall at the eastern end.

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and fill in your references with the RefToolbar to make it easier for the reviewer to assess them.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/California_Institute_of_Integral_Studies#Accreditation_and_exam_pass_rates

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that would not be subjective, and how would that not be an even more attractive boosterism magnet?

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More generally, I think we're justified in being fairly picky about which rankings we include, per

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How can we clean up alumni miscategorized under a university rather than its undergraduate college?

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interesting, but the reports exclude most UK universities, which have "University of X" articles.

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This article is graded as Start class. I would like it reviewed to see what needs to be improved.

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I hate to say this, but many sources follow what Knowledge says without independent verification.

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in the first sentence. Haven't heard of it before, pretty much as I'm not in higher-ed business.

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include countries for which the institution has a significant, meaningful, and ongoing presence.

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Knowledge:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 30 § Category:QuestBridge partner colleges

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I tend to agree with Hobbit & ElKevbo here. We'll see what users think after a year or two.

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BTW. Our CS1/CS2 citation templates support seasons and quarters when given in uppercase, like:

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about draft proposal to clarify appropriate statements about prestige and rankings in the lede

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https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/carlos-iii-university-madrid

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I just undid the edit including NSF Funding, ranking etc. Please direct your objection to

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Kharkiv National Academy of Municipal Economy → Kharkiv National Academy of Urban Economy?

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Talk:University of Cambridge § Proposed merge of Winter Pool into University of Cambridge

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User Elkevbo, you have a history of deleting comments you do not like on your talk page.

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marketing departments should be treated the same as any other corporation's marketing.

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That sounds reasonable. It might get challenged if you took the article all the way to

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Talk:Harvard University § Proposed merge of The Harvard Gazette into Harvard University

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is not a government scheme, was founded in 1997 and does not appear to focus on FGCS.

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if it ends up being unnecessary.Onto my actual opinions. I've brought this up before

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University of Illinois College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (Many with the same name)

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Each and every ranking system puts a significant weight on research. Take a look at

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Sounds like a good start. I'm not familiar with them but I'll trust your judgement.

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Further, "among the most selective and highly ranked" is also a classic example of

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Welp. Barring something unexpected, looks like we're headed for another delisting.

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vs full-time, undergraduate vs graduate, graduate minus doctoral vs doctoral only.

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The article has been edited. I think it's neutral and relies on proper sources. --

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I'm relying on Schedule C(vii)1 at page 89ff of the 2021 Statutes and Ordinances

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into that summary. Just link any where they can be beneficially linked (example,

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University of Illinois School of Information Sciences (Many with the same name)

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Knowledge:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_317#College_historical_accounts

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Updating the universities rankings info-box to include QS's USA 2020 rankings

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article also has a Master's thesis in the additional references section. :)

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or a more specific part of the MOS to verify that we're on the right track.

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The nomination has been withdrawn. Thank you to everyone who participated.

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That's a good question to raise. I'd say that we should first look to what

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IMO, there is bit of promotional tone in parts of the page (literally says

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should probably be added to those on the final list, as it is already on

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least respect the process if you expect people to contribute their time.

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https://www.wscuc.org/institutions/california-institute-integral-studies

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How do we address the other levels of geography e.g., state, province?

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Knowledge:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Nightingale College

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University of Illinois School of Social Work (Many with the same name)

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Semesters are not supported yet, but could be easily added on request.

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What would the notability criteria be for these kinds of articles? ––

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Colleges and Schools of the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

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Is Cornell "one of the most prestigious universities in the world?"

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One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

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tried to shut down several times only to be prevented by congress

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Geology Hall, New Brunswick, New Jersey Featured article review

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idea what is a "sea grant," "sun grant," or "space grant." --

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The US Department of Education has the definitions they use

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Should dining services be covered in student life sections?

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guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies

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guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies

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because of the ambiguity of the hemispheres, but allows it

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and responded there as it may help a future AFC reviewer.

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as long as the article is changed to explicitly include

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Should country always be included in the lede sentence?

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Is anyone going to save this project's quality content?

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How do we sync rankings data with the reference year?

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I've done a merge. No time for anything else, sorry.

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See my comments at 3946:, are notable. ... 5. The person has held a 2745:National Institute of Technology, Puducherry 2059:Thanks, I cross-posted there now as well. -- 866:about the placement and appropriate uses of 468:As I said before, if people think the term " 8862:numbers for those would be a good solution. 6835:https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Terri_Givens 6641:by date is less useful than by institution. 5348:as mentioned on its infobox is 10 times of 5278:a third-party source for all universities? 3392:"New York Chiropractic College" name change 1822:Notability of extracurricular organizations 18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Higher education 7428:much detail about their residence halls.) 6647:Professor of Political Economy (Cambridge) 5616:List of researchers at the Racah Institute 5214:the UK Research Excellence Framework 2021, 3358:So we need to be a little bit wary there. 3209:. 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I was one of the reverts, at 8761:Knowledge:Neutral point of view 8654:Additional input requested: Is 7735:" of very old featured articles 5064:College and university rankings 5033:Research output of universities 4509:History of Princeton University 4022:in reliable secondary sources. 3894: 3039:Sounds like a good idea to me. 2608:Thought on rankings subsections 806:Featured list removal candidate 222:please apologize and withdraw. 8757:Knowledge:No original research 8625:been 'noticed' of a FAR needed 8621:Review and nominate an article 7313:Where do Controversies belong? 7290:00:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC) 6827: 6816: 6805: 6629:What I think is true is that, 6453:President of the United States 6034:United States Military Academy 5433:Help:Referencing_for_beginners 4989:Oklahoma Christian University‎ 4798:Higher education accreditation 4750:06:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC) 4711:12:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC) 4695:08:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC) 4660:20:41, 13 September 2021 (UTC) 4263:|campus=], {{convert|47|acre}} 4213:I'll get to it after the FAR. 2434:University of Mary Washington‎ 2308:Talk:University of Mississippi 1952:I am trying very very hard to 1633:has already made the point on 1198:advises against using seasons 1075:FAR for University of Michigan 826:03:29, 24 September 2020 (UTC) 13: 1: 8884:03:34, 28 February 2023 (UTC) 8824:02:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC) 8800:00:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC) 8777:19:42, 27 February 2023 (UTC) 8741:19:32, 27 February 2023 (UTC) 8719:19:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC) 7673:20:07, 20 December 2022 (UTC) 7659:17:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC) 7636:15:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC) 7590:19:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC) 7552:09:35, 13 December 2022 (UTC) 6757:Thanks, commented over there. 6479:Professor of Gaelic (Glasgow) 5965:21:00, 27 February 2022 (UTC) 5909:Criticism and accusations at 5903:23:31, 16 February 2022 (UTC) 5580:04:04, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5556:03:38, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5541:06:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC) 5510:02:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC) 5494:The Green (Dartmouth College) 5458:Showcase article nomination: 5366:12:39, 18 December 2021 (UTC) 5340:07:32, 18 December 2021 (UTC) 5314:06:46, 18 December 2021 (UTC) 5288:11:23, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5273:11:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5243:10:51, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5228:07:11, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5207:11:31, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5192:10:51, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5177:03:36, 17 December 2021 (UTC) 5145:18:20, 16 December 2021 (UTC) 5130:09:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC) 5111:18:18, 16 December 2021 (UTC) 5096:04:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC) 5081:18:14, 16 December 2021 (UTC) 5058:17:21, 15 December 2021 (UTC) 5027:21:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC) 4981:14:34, 28 November 2021 (UTC) 4946:13:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC) 4930:03:34, 22 November 2021 (UTC) 4905:19:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC) 4874:16:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC) 4858:Wissenschaftliche Mitarbeiter 4841:12:51, 20 November 2021 (UTC) 4821:Bolding in non-lead infoboxes 4815:21:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC) 4769:Miami Herbert Business School 4634:06:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC) 4586:08:06, 7 September 2021 (UTC) 4555:08:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC) 4322:04:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC) 4308:02:23, 1 September 2021 (UTC) 3648:count as a major institution? 3441:Pomona College FAC nomination 2109:an (even more stubby) article 1796:17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC) 1773:07:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC) 1739:04:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC) 1714:09:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC) 1690:FAR Michigan State University 1285:00:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC) 1258:23:58, 21 December 2020 (UTC) 1233:07:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC) 1135:02:18, 19 December 2020 (UTC) 1101:Talk:Saint Anselm College/GA3 1039:04:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC) 1024:03:10, 28 November 2020 (UTC) 981:American Council on Education 959:06:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC) 889:04:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC) 7565:WikiProject Higher education 7202:in an encyclopedia article. 5874:22:06, 6 February 2022 (UTC) 5846:Featured article review for 5838:18:46, 4 February 2022 (UTC) 5806:17:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC) 5785:07:27, 4 February 2022 (UTC) 5735:04:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC) 5688:08:31, 20 January 2022 (UTC) 5674:22:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC) 5633:14:57, 18 January 2022 (UTC) 5609:04:19, 15 January 2022 (UTC) 5318:Meh, I guess that reporting 4736:Manchester University' (per 4450:Appalachian State University 3489:; 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