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quality score of the article gradualy improves! If being assesed, and a GA article in example still fall short of the FA status, but yet has been improved compared to the last time it was assessed. Then it would help to encourage editors to show a score, that the article actualy has improved from 85p to 92p. So eventhough it still falls short of the 100p requirement for FA articles (due to perhaps 8 quality issues still remain to be solved), the quality has been visibly improved and recognized. Thus encouraging editors to continue the process with further improvements (despite of the first failed attempt to improve it to FA status). :-)
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parameters in the standard. In example, its possible to define 100 general quality parameters for a perfect article. In case some of them are more important than others, the international standard should then allocate in example 2p instead of 1p, for this specific "quality parameter". After having assesed the article according with the descriped standard in use, the reviewer can then in a very objective way calculate the overall "quality score" of the article. Of course with the quality category then showing and relating to this "quality score", so that articles with 100p are rated FA and articles with 80p-90p are rated GA.
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implemented, there would perhaps also be a call to create a specific "scoreboard standard" for some of the general type of articles. Perhaps a special "scoreboard rating system" should be applied for the assesment of all "sports" articles, while all "scientific" articles would need their own special "scoreboard rating system", etc. Would this be possible and a good idea? If yes, then perhaps someone of the more experienced Wikipedians here at the Wikiproject Football community, could make it a priority task to create the first example of this new "Quality scoreboard system" for all Football related articles?
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inappropriate for an encyclopedia. I gave an example recently in an edit summary...it is not 'American Navy,' it is 'United States Navy.' The proper name of the teams include the proper name of the country, as this is always used in scores, standings, etc. (check UEFA's website, for example). A news article or broadcaster may say 'the French' informally, but the team is 'France.' It seems as I participated in a short discussion on this before somewhere. 'The French national team' might sound more natural to a casual reader and cause them to edit it to read so, but it is incorrect.
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100 Bundesliga appearance in 12 years for VfL Bochum, Energie Cottbus, and 1. FC Saarbrücken is probably not that notable. Anyway, these are my rules of thumbs for evaluation. I don't think strict rules should be established here. There are just too many ways for a player to become notable. By the way the player to be of Top importance has yet to be born, though I would not rule out, that there could be one.
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article gets moved to the appropriate category. While the same happens if you set an importance, articles ought to have no importance (aka non-articles) stay in the unevaluated category, cluttering that one. For a small project like German football that is not too bad, but if you want to evaluate articles from the General project on football it becomes annoying.
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Probably I'm a bit strict here, but my rule of thumb is to give mid-importance to players with 10 caps for major national teams. 300 top level league appearances also suffice. This sounds hard, but if you add put this debate into historical perspective you'll probably agree, that a player who amassed
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On what grounds are Real Madrid more notable than Bayern Munich? Both are multiple European champions, both have won their national championship more times than any other club, both occupy the upper echelons of football club rich lists. Their memberships are of similar size. In essence, an example of
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The examples are listed above for consideration as replacements (C-class and above, excluding A-class since there is no current football-related article listed. If someone could recall a A-class version of an article, that would be very helpful indeed.). Emphasis was given to more recent assessments
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High = High achiever: World Cup Final players (match not tournament) international team and tournament record holders, multiple top flight top scorers and top flight title holders, multiple international title holders, league record holders and high importance club record holders (most apps or goals
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I'm not sure I like all "international or top league player" be titled as mid-importance. Brazil for example had a qualifying season, in which their coach gave about 100 different players a cap. So if someone has played for the most successful team in the world is not necessarily notable. Same goes
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No matter how much money they have, how much they have achieved, or what kind of "smoke" they sell, clubs are simply that: clubs. No club in the world is that important in the world of football in the sense that it would be crucial to rate it so. Their national associations, which they are part of,
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I feel that some teams should be allowed in the Top Importance category. The base criteria for top says "Reserved for articles that have achieved international notability within its subject or field.", for high it says "Article is extremely notable, but has not achieved international notability, or
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My proposal is, that we need to write down a world wide Knowledge standard for a perfect FA article, and to ensure objective ratings are applied in the assesment process, this standard should contain a scoreboard system, where 1 point is awarded each time the article comply with one of the defined
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With the proposed Quality scoreboard system in use, the assesment process would be far more objective, compared to the more subjective standard we currently use at Knowledge. Moreover it would also help to encourage editors in the process of improving a certain article, if they can follow how the
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I'd like to pick up this discussion as I'm currently evaluating a lot of German football articles and encountering the same problem. The actual solution is unsatisfying in my opinion. That is because I sometimes browse through the unevaluated articles and rate them. If you do that for class, the
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Many people here are forgetting that this is an encyclopedia, not a popularity contest. The articles are rated based on the importance of the subject at hand. The Oceania Football Confederation is far more important than any club in the world as it represents a football confederation made up of
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If some of you agree with the idea/proposal of creating a "Quality scoreboard system", I guess it might be a matter to also be further discussed at the main page of Wikipedia_talk for "article assesment" in general. For sure, I am curious to learn, just for a start, if you support the idea? If
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As a relatively new Wikipedian, I was rather surprised to find, that Knowledge apparently still struggle to find a perfect solution and answer to this question. The fact that I managed to find several examples of inaccurate "subjective ratings", and different assesment standards applied when
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I don't know where else to bring this up; if there is another place, please direct me. I see a lot of articles being changed to say, for instance, 'English national team' rather than 'England national team.' Others state the name of the teams properly. I see the former as informal, and
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namespaces? Is it necessary to add NA to importance? For example a template talk page would look like this; {{Football|class=Template|importance=NA|}} and a category talk page would look like this; {{Football| class=Cat|importance=NA}} Any comments about this is greatly welcomed.
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Maybe Bayern wasn't the best example, though I would suggest (without any evidence) that Real have a far bigger fanbase, and are better known outside of Europe. For example you would be likely to find (though Beckham) many more articles on Real in the US, then on Bayern.
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The article cites more than one reliable source and is better developed in style, structure, and quality than Start-Class, but it fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may have some gaps or missing elements, or need editing for clarity, balance, or
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Very tricky isn't it! I like "international or top league player" as criteria for Mid, it's relatively straightforward to check on each player's page. For High, I don't think ALL players who have played in a World Cup final would get this, winners of
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The main problems I have with this is that "Top-rated" and "world-class" can be seen as subjective terms, on who's authority does a player become top-rated or world class. Mid importance is far too wide ranging, from multi-award winning players such as
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comparing each national version of Knowledge (ie. articles rated as FA in Sweden/Germany, would not stand a chance of reaching the FA rating by the English wikipedia), in my point of view really call for the Knowledge assessment system to be improved.
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Looks like you did everything correctly already, King of the East. You just need to wait for the bot to run automatically (every 3 days or so - I've kicked it off for the first time for you,looks like only Maradona is tagged) the data can be found at
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I can run through the steps necessary (basically create categories and assign them into the WP1.0 Assessment scheme - don't need admin permissions) and perhaps make it into a 'how-to' page somewhere? (Bit late now but I'll get on it tomorrow)
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Any editing or additional material can be helpful. The provision of meaningful content should be a priority. The best solution for a Stub-class Article to step up to a Start-class Article is to add in referenced reasons of why the topic is
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However I don't really thing major football clubs are "extremely important, even crucial" to football. Crucial football articles are definitely offered by the confederations, rules, positions and so on. I feel we should make it distinct.
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I'm sure that there will be a number of editors who would prefer to stick to the vaguely worlded and loosley applied assessment criteria we have, but I feel that in order to get some consistency we need better defined criteria. Regards
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As above, I don't think it's necessary. The "class" parameter is meant for a quality rating rather than for a "article/category/template" rating. I think "NA" in the "class" parameter is sufficient for all the non-article pages.
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I have now added Argentina into the template successfully (I Hope), could someone please give me a hand setting up the Statistics table, I have created the neccessary categories, but cant go any further as I am not an admin.
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The article is substantial but is still missing important content or contains irrelevant material. The article should have some references to reliable sources, but may still have significant problems or require substantial
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A few aspects of content and style need to be addressed. Expert knowledge may be needed. The inclusion of supporting materials should be considered if practical, and the article checked for general compliance with the
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True, I want somehow to be able to distinguish between top teams who are notable outside of traditional football areas, for example through their large fanbase in areas such as south-east Asia, or say in the case of
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Can we come to a consensus on this? I really don't know of the need for debate, as I think it's clear that the proper name for the country ought to be used, but didn't know if I had missed a previous discussion. -
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Provides very little meaningful content; may be little more than a dictionary definition. Readers probably see insufficiently developed features of the topic and may not see how the features of the topic are
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Mid =Decorated players (top level title winners), international footballers, league topscorers, 100+ top flight games, club record holders (most apps or goals for teams rated as mid importance) (example
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examples from C-class and above. We should list football-specific articles as examples, as we did for the importance scale, so that editors may find it more relevant and useful for grading purposes.
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Professional standard; it comprehensively covers the defined scope, usually providing a complete set of items, and has annotations that provide useful and appropriate information about those items.
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Teams with nationwide notability. Players, managers or officials that have participated at international level or in a top-level league. Mid-level leagues. Internationally recognised stadia.
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Articles strictly related to the game: rules of the game, positions, confederations. Teams and who are notable through-out or outside of the football world. Competitions notable worldwide.
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and the corresponding Task Force category. However importance CANNOT currently take Template, NA or anything other than Top,High,Mid,Low. Anything other than Top, High,Mid,Low gets put in
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The article is well organized and essentially complete, having been examined by impartial reviewers from a WikiProject or elsewhere. Good article status is not a requirement for A-Class.
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I this would be unnecessary, to be honest. Class is for a rating of an article's quality, N/A articles show those those that are non-articles, which is sufficient in my opinion.
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should come first; the article also needs substantial improvement in content and organisation. Also improve the grammar, spelling, writing style and improve the jargon use.
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Article is extremely important, even crucial, to its specific field. Reserved for articles that have achieved international notability within its subject or field.
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Surely talk pages don't need to be assessed at all? Especially since the assessment template relating to the article itself will be on the talk page already.....
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I would say that "Teams and who are notable through-out or outside of the football world" and "Teams with international notability" are virtually the same.
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Proposal: An elegant and pretty simple (I guess) solution to that problem would be to create a NA-importance category and have all templates/categories/NA-
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Subject is not particularly notable or significant even within its field of study. It may only be included to cover a specific part of a notable article.
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exemplifies Knowledge's very best work and is distinguished by professional standards of writing, presentation, and sourcing. In addition to meeting the
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No further content additions should be necessary unless new information becomes available; further improvements to the prose quality are often possible.
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No further content additions should be necessary unless new information becomes available; further improvements to the prose quality are often possible.
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Useful to nearly all readers, with no obvious problems; approaching (though not necessarily equalling) the quality of a professional publication.
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So, I feel that it would be a good idea to follow the official version of assessment. This would in fact promote consistency with regards to
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Sincerely I fail to imagine a Sanmarinese multiple top-flight title holder as "extremely notable within a particular continent". And surely
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is added in the class parameter, the assessment template would be more accurate. Of course NA could be added to the importance parameter. --
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would be the sort of thing, unfortunately it only goes back 15 years! Maybe someone (else!) could dig through the useful stuff found here
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I would say that a much more crucial factor to consider is the way that importance is determined in relation to players. This is all the
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The article has a meaningful amount of good content, but it is still weak in many areas. The article has one or more of the following:
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Very useful to readers. A fairly complete treatment of the subject. A non-expert in the subject would typically find nothing wanting.
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It is written with as broad an audience in mind as possible. The article should not assume unnecessary technical background and
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I've changed "well-known stadia" to "Internationally recognised stadia" above. For European stadia, this could be specified as
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Article is extremely notable, but has not achieved international notability, or is only notable within a particular continent.
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Teams with international notability. Top-level leagues, awards and competitions. Top-rated world-class players and managers.
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page. It is listed as a Start page and I believe should have a higher rating as a result of it's recently improved content.
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Article is only notable within its particular field or subject and has achieved notability in a particular place or area.
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Readers are not left wanting, although the content may not be complete enough to satisfy a serious student or researcher.
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I am about to launch Wikiproject:Argentine football, I need some help with setting up the Argentina=yes section in the
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and its content does not change significantly from day to day, except in response to the featured article process; and
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are a step higher; then their continental associations, FIFA, and the sport itself and more...it's a long ladder.
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and its content does not change significantly from day to day, except in response to the featured list process.
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who while notable in Europe and internationally in footballing areas don't have the same notability elsewhere.
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I'm sorry I don't know where to post this - but I was wondering if an assessment review could be done on the
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Any other player, manager, team or other football-related article. Football-related lists, season articles.
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An article that is developing but still quite incomplete. It may or may not cite adequate reliable sources.
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Useful to a casual reader, but would not provide a complete picture for even a moderately detailed study.
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The list is probably correct - UEFA only issue ratings once a year IIRC so Wembley is not yet on it.
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or 4 and 5 star, although I notice Wembley isn't on the 5-star list. Presume the list is outdated? --
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There is no set format for a list, but its organization should be logical and useful to the reader.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.
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though possibly not every single title holder, for example should every member of last season's
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Lists should be lists of live links to Knowledge articles, appropriately named and organized.
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that summarizes the topic and prepares the reader for the detail in the subsequent sections;
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being the best player ever) and come up with something covering the 20th century at least...
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The prose contains no major grammatical errors and flows sensibly, but does not need to be
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Expert knowledge may be needed to tweak the article, and style problems may need solving.
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Professional, outstanding, and thorough; a definitive source for encyclopedic information.
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This is true, but in that case the criteria are conflicting, though I would dispute that
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is only notable within a particular continent." I would argue that certain teams such as
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The use of 'unofficial' options varies from Wikiproject to Wikiproject; the official
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Mid: Players that have participated at international level or in a top-level league.
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currently accepts NA, Template or List, for class, but they all put the article in
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It stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail and uses
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and all the sections that can reasonably be included in an article of its kind.
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A very basic description of the topic. Meets none of the Start-Class criteria.
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for suggestions on formatting references. Citation templates are not required.
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how putting some clubs as "top" importance is an exercise in subjectivity.
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category. Any opinions to that? Anyone like to do that, if nobody opposes?
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etc. should be included where they are relevant and useful to the content.
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that introduces the subject and defines the scope and inclusion criteria.
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on a similar topic may highlight areas where content is weak or missing.
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Making NA for all the category and namespaces would be too general. If
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template and set up the facility to collect statistics like these
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I don't have a suggested replacement, but I'm surprised by the
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are structured correctly. Visual media, if included, utilize
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Football in England articles by quality and importance
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