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been released onto the Neighbourhood Statistics site as yet. I cannot find this data published elsewhere by ONS so have fallen back on the Mid-2010 population estimates as a stop gap. I have also added info boxes to those civil parish articles, mainly in MK currently without them. Hopefully the other data I sought out to populate these info box templates is accurate, but suspect despite my best endeavours I may have got a one or two post codes, postal towns and the like wrong for those in Milton Keynes UA. Noticed that many of the parliamentary constituencies for Milton Keynes do not take account of boundary and name changes in 2010 too. Also I have not updated the ad hoc demography tables based on the 2001 data that crop up in a few articles.
1496:. I was working my way through categorising civil parishes in Bucks and came across this page which is a hybrid of Wexham a settlement / civil parish in Buckinghamshire and a suburb of the unitary authority of Slough Wexham Park / Wexham Court. It was categorised as a Berkshire stub which I reclassified as a Buckinghamshire stub but perhaps its both on reflection! It looks like someone else has also queried the content as there is a hidden query inserted about the history of the parishes. Either way it needs sorting but I don't have enough knowledge of this part of Bucks but happy to help someone who has. I also had a look over at 49: 21: 3465: 3960: 2128:). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found 1378:. The "A" assessment I don't think we will end up using - it is a seldom used stepping stone between GA and FA which only larger projects (for example Biography) use. I personally don't think it's good practice to grade your own work above "Start" (recognising up to "Start" is easy, beyond is where the subjectivity starts), so I would typically remove the assessment altogether, which places the article back into the 986:. Could you take a look at the list for your local area and see if any are missing or create articles for any red links. Could you also add the new project banner "{{WikiProject Museums}}" to the Talk pages of the articles, so that we can identify those in need of work etc. Any help appreciated &, if anyone is interested you are welcome to join the project or discuss Museum related articles on the 187: 3269:) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international 2582: 326: 3412:, there's currently a drive to go through the million 19th century images released by the British Library last year, and identify all the maps, with a view to their being georeferenced by BL volunteers, and then uploaded to Commons early next year. After the first week, over eight thousand new maps have been identified, with 40% of the target books looked at -- 1359:- namely "Stub", "Start" and "B" - no further peer assessment needs to be undertaken other than a "silent review", there doesn't need to be discussion at these levels. With the example you cite, someone asked me about the rating of the article so I reassessed it manually and it fits the "B" criteria, so I altered the assessment ratings on the talk page. 3246:, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people? 3207:. While this multi-article mania is indicative of growing compartmentalisation of every community, I do not support departing from the guidance, even if quite justifiably you can purport a rural neighbourhood as having more to it "visually at least" than every urban neighbourhood. The underlying reason behind this guidance seems to be 2061:, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. 3819:, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time. 2235:
about your topic GAs then an outside reviewer. As a result, reviewing your project's articles would improve the quality of the review in ensuring that the article meets your project's concerns on sourcing, content, and guidelines. However, members can also review any other article in the worklist to ensure it meets the GA criteria.
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Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Knowledge struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for
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We are always looking for new members to assist with reviewing the remaining articles, and since this project has GAs under its scope, it would be beneficial if any of its members could review a few articles (perhaps your project's articles). Your project's members are likely to be more knowledgeable
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I agree. To take the two other parishes in the Borough of Milton Keynes, for example ('Haversham-cum-Little Linford' and 'Tyringham and Filgrave'): these names redirect to CP sections in the articles about the more notable settlement. Standalone articles would have no useful purpose or content other
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I realise that I have not been particularly active within this project since it's creation but I do support (and would try to contribute) to project goals. I'd say it would be better to determine articles for improvement (towards GA/FA) rather than limit the number of stubs as (from my experience of
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We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you?
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Just completed updating population data for the 2011 census, and adding citations in the info boxes for all (circa 170) of the civil parishes for Bucks including the Milton Keynes UA. There were a few exceptions relating to some of those parishes with less than 100 residents. Data for these has not
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etc.) One approach would be to divide up the Buckinghamshire article and related subarticles among anybody who's interested (e.g. I would be interested in working on history, transport and education; someone else might be interested in geography and transport; someone else in politics and education
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I don't know who else is around at the moment, and I realise I'm a new member, but maybe we could compile a list of goals for the project for 2013 - a mixture of specific and general goals that we can work on individually and collaboratively to improve the coverage of Bucks. As well as the specific
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or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. With ~1,300 articles left to review, we would appreciate any editors that could contribute in helping to uphold the quality of GAs. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help
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Thanks for your full and very helpful reply. The issue I have found with contributing to articles about small settlements, unlike larger towns and conurbations, is they tend to be developed by one or two editors only so there is next to no development and refinement based on critique of each others
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Could some kind souls keep an eye on this page please? Yesterday I spent ten minutes copyediting it, only to have my edit undone in a single swoop today by an IP address. I have just gone through bit by bit explaining in edit summaries what I have done and why, now it's just a time thing to find
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which was just reassessed. I could see no discussion or peer review it seems it was done on the run without reference here or to the football project. If we are to have some consistency it would be useful to know the criteria/ process and / who has responsibility to do this and how the community
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heading of the main parish? That is after all how most are found: it provides a ready-made commune in the European model for how communities (supposedly, and commonly) operate with say a football team or an arts society for the whole parish, and many other features in common usually based on the
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is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating
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In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible buildings are up to date and
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The point of assessing is two-fold. First, it enables us to chart the quality of the individual article. Second, it allows us to chart the quality of articles within the scope of the WikiProject altogether. This is the more interesting one for us as most articles are already covered by another
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edits etc. I have been working on quite a number of the typical small village settlements(only 100-300 inhabitants) in the Chilterns spiraling out from a hub / cluster of 4 villages whose history /communities are closely interlinked due to their relative isolation from others not far distant.
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I think, in general, pre-Buckinghamshire history should not be covered, however, in specific cases such as the one you mention where the subject has some significance now, then they should be included (if my meaning is clear). Either way, if anyone thinks a particular article should be added,
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Then we need a project to create parish categories. I do not see enough content to justify having a full article each, a four-or-five-sentence-long category description (if so much information can be obtained) doesn't sound unreasonable, and most of those sentences can be put on Wikidata for
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I was looking for a more appropriate Buckinghamshire photo for the project banner, but in lieu of a flag or a very recognisable building or scene, I wasn't really sure what to pick. I would have chosen a little map, but I couldn't find one on commons :S The current one is very MK biased!
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At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template
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which are to be fond all over Bucks to get them a descent rating. Being remote autonomous settlements which fall below the level which census and other demographic data can be desegregated from Local Government statistics limits what can be incorporated. Any thoughts will be much
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We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as
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Yes you can create categories as well but note that the threshold for having a category is generally higher than for having an article, generally at least 5-10 pages are needed for a category while it is standard to have an article for every parish. I brought this up at
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with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Knowledge 1.0 scheme! For the
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Currently, 1066 articles are assigned to this project, of which 154, or 14.4%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See
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All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. —
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than "just a list of settlements". The extra material that C.S believes could be added can just as easily be added to that section. When it gets too big, split it then. This is trying to create articles for the sake of filing things neatly into little boxes. --
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The "title" may need wikilinking to a suitable article name (whether we currently have that article or not). If there are several buildings in one street all of the wikilinks point at an article about the street; however each entry has a separate line in the
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do not have geographic coordinates. Coords are useful for making the article appear on Google Maps & many other mapping services; and they allow our users to click through to see the article subject location on a map. There's a short guide to on
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I would say don't include it, because it's only one researcher that is trying to push that it was in the Chilterns area - all others place the kingdom elsewhere. However if you want to pre-Roman district that modern-day Buckinghamshire is in, it's
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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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It's like a mini-project. It has it's own group of members who look at a specific area within the scope of a project, but all the admin and bureaucracy is still covered by the main WikiProject, avoiding doubling up of all the admin work etc.
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the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please
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stub sorting) there's always articles which have been created but not identified as stubs and there are always new articles to be created. It would seem reasonable to identify some key articles to this project (off the top of my head
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which I intend to cover every major aspect of transport. If anyone can help with writing, providing sources or just general spelling checks etc, I would be very grateful. At the moment, only the railway section has has been started.
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As big as this is, i do not think it is large enough for a project. However, there is no project covering the county i which Milton Keynes is in so may i suggest this project expands its scope and become WikiProject Buckinghamshire?
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to migrate ratings carried out by other projects to our new project banner and assessment scheme. This reduces the amount of articles we have to assess from around 1000 to 250. All projects broadly base their assessments upon the
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which is likely of interest to this project. The original proposal is for straight removal of the ethnicity field from the template; the population field would remain. This and a modified proposal would have the same effect on
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I'm thinking between us we probably have a lot of hard sources to hand,so how about a listing so that we can easily ask someone if we need something from a particular source? I'll get the ball rolling, I have in front of me:
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I would like to support this but I can't see much to go in such articles. If it's just a list of settlements contained within these parishes, can't that be done far better with categories (as I believe it already is)?
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Any help looking through these would be very much appreciated -- as well as the maps (and ground plans) for tagging, you may well also find other interesting or useful non-map views that may be worth considering or
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This project was suggested at the WikiProject Council sometime back. However, a Buckinghamshire Project, and potential Milton Keynes taskforce, could work better as it would hopefully get more people interested.
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Alternatively, one of you who hasn't participated may volunteer to close the discussion as 'no consensus for change at present', given that three (local) editors oppose the proposal and only the OP supports it.
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The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
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2.) Upload photographs or other media related to LGBT culture and history, including pride events, and add images to relevant Knowledge articles; feel free to create a subpage with a gallery of your images (see
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At the moment all I am doing is redirecting the hamlet to the parish page. But that's a bit boring, and there's a whole wealth of information about these small places that is being missed from the encyclopedia.
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which currently shows pink templated links for 309 Flickr book pages still to be looked at. (Though there are lots of other parts of England, and indeed of the world, still to be looked through as well).
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and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
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need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Knowledge, plain and simple, and all are welcome!
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Many Buckinghamshire articles are missing geographical coordinates. Finding the latitude and longitude of locations, and entering coordinates into articles is straightforwards, and explained at
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Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page.
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with some exceptions, some which then fed into other counties (the categorisation in these cases is wrong) and people who play for sports teams in our areas (my thinking is that sportspeople
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so that I can work on making it a bit more attractive and less messy, without disturbing other people's watchlists if they don't want me to. Feel free to join in and make improvements. --
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So have a look at the below templates and if one of the hamlets you know is just a redirect to its parish page, be bold and create an article! I look forward to reading what you create!
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We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at
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Bucks are not). If you find a load of articles that are tagged and you're not sure they should be in our scope, or vice-versa, leave a note here and we can do whatever's necessary!
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category. Hopefully then someone else comes along to assess it - this is more likely if the category holds less than 20 articles at any one time! Hope this answers your questions!
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has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. Instead of reviewing by topic, editors can consider picking and choosing whichever articles they are interested in.
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which are furthest advanced editorially speaking of the four and follow most closely the template guidance for village settlements and then if you can spare the time then either
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but it's very similar, although there doesn't seem to be the issue of repeated links in sections. Considering the size of the villages, I think it's very good work! Keep it up!
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I agree, when it was promoted the criteria was a little different so there may be a fair amount of work to do in some areas, but I think it's core for this project!
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There maybe no or few articles on this new Unreferenced BLPs page. To increase the overall number of articles in your project with another bot, you can sign up for
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from WP Somerset, because theirs appeared to be quite good. I will now make a start at assessing Bucks articles according to this scale, feel free to join me. --
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Can others please suggest/ advise on how articles in the Bucks Project should be (peer-)reviewed and their ratings reassessed. Some articles have ratings based on
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The county does have an unofficial flag, but it's very difficult to draw seeing as it has the county swan in the middle of it. What about a notable landmark? --
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Clicking on the "list entry number" should take you to the data sheet for that entry on the English Heritage database which can be checked if needed for details.
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There are about 169 articles missing coords - I hope you'll consider adding coordinates so as to make Buckinghamshire articles more visible on the web. thanks --
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category, not to mention History of Herts, Oxon etc. I think we'll find some other dodgy categorisation here and there. I don't think such articles, including
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The "date completed" column sometimes has eg "C19" for 19th century, and "C1850" for c. 1850 when the date is uncertain - these need to be corrected manually.
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The "grid ref & lat & long" (which is occasionally missing) may be given to 8 characters — only 6 (grid ref) or 5 (lat & long) are really needed.
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to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Knowledge:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at
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which are yet to be reconfigured like the first two. It would be also useful for others to know what needs to be contained within a very small hamlet like
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These belong as articles here not just categories and most CPs do not have categories here though I have added many over the last few years.
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up to GA standard. Before formally proposing it, I would appreciate contributions or criticism from anyone who can spare the time, please. --
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represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
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It is with great affection for the county that I say these are perhaps only notable for Midsomer Murders or 1960s extensions of towns...
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will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the
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that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
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Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by English Heritage. These use pre formatted templates (eg
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etc.) Over the course of the year (or less), we could then get Buckinghamshire to FA status and perhaps some of the subarticles to GA.
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I notice that Buckinghamshire used to be considered FA status in the past - can we focus on getting that back up to scratch first? --
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will be helpful in improving the article and I think will be of use for others working on upgrading villages and other settlements
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a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for
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is a collection of English Knowledge articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The
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goals we have at the moment, we could have "Get xxx articles to GA status", "Decrease number of stubs below xxx"... Thoughts?
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Can anyone find or produce a decent free image of the flag of Bucks? Previous attempts have been deleted as being unfree. --
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The front page is a bit of a mess; I'm not brilliant at this kind of thing but my first job will be to tidy that up a bit. --
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I'm still here. Just been through and assessed a whole bunch of articles for quality and importance. Anyone else around? --
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Oh, if you want a certain few articles reviewed sooner rather than later, list them here and I'll look through them tomorrow.
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for further details and instructions in initiating a review. If you'd like to join the process, please add your name to the
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at the talk page there, it's "B" standard but really suffers from the lack of inline citations. I haven't left comments at
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You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that
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to identify where they are. Because Bucks is quite rural there are a LOT of small hamlets attached to larger parishes.
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assessment previously done others do not. Meanwhile I saw one tagged just now by this project which is also part of the
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Sorry, I forgot to check if this had been actioned! Looks like you've worked that one out! It looks great! Well done!
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article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject
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I am proposing to merge a number of low or moderately active projects in south east England. The discussion is here:
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has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A
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I was thinking of having some general goals as well as specific goals, sort of like a smaller scale version of the
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subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering
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if you are going to be taking photos yourself for inclusion in the competition don't upload them until September)
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Could I ask for some help accessing local knowledge, from members of this wikiproject, on the behalf of the new
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I am creating a complete list of geographical places about Buckinghamshire, using the electronic gazetteer at
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Please help get Buckinghamshire ready for the start of the Wiki Loves Monuments competition on 1st September
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Thanks. I'll research some history and jazz it up a bit later. I'm doing the railway section at the moment.
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Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.
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and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my
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templates containing their latitude/longitude data (or else have lat&long entered into the infobox).
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there is no clear consensus about if it should be split but the comments seem veering on not splitting.
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The "location" column looks and sorts better if just the parish or town is included (& wikilinked).
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will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's
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This September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition
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to format the table there. It could do with headings, and possibly a "location" column as well. --
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I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to
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for articles on Buckinghamshire and elsewhere in the South-East. (If uploading, please use the
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The image column should have a picture added if we already have a suitable image on Commons. (
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but anything which the statistics show is high-traffic) and work out some goals for them.
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The concrete cows are still very MK-centric. I like the idea of a picture of a swan. --
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Interesting, I have added the template to the project page, will await bot response. --
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There has been a lot of discussion recently about deleting these unreferenced articles
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easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested,
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I've tagged about 1000 articles that fall under the recursive category of
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And these exists as a redirect only but should have separate articles:
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How about the swan logo? Or even a picture of a swan? --
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John Smith "" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
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A part that may specifically interest this project is
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article. However transport really isn't my thing! --
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I'd like to draw your attention to the new 1816:Buckinghamshire articles missing geo-coordinates 300:Should i move ths project and sort things then? 58:, a project which is currently considered to be 4011:. The missing parishes in Buckinghamshire are: 2147:. We are also in the process of implementing a 1839:templates, which need replacing with filled in 1747:automated selection of articles for Version 0.7 1687:Olney, Milton Keynes or Olney, Buckinghamshire. 1615:{{User:WolterBot/Cleanup listing subscription}} 1460:Thanks the guidance and suggested improvements 3416:for the latest figures, and more information. 1930: 1902: 1176:History of Milton Keynes and District Volume 2 1134:History of Milton Keynes and District Volume 1 2463:If you have any questions or concerns, visit 2434:want this wikiproject to participate, please 2255:and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! 3931:We have collected all of these questions at 3617:, an officially recognized affiliate of the 4416:. 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A swan sounds good. 180: 4384:18:11, 26 January 2022 (UTC) 4354:17:03, 30 January 2022 (UTC) 4322:22:48, 29 January 2022 (UTC) 4297:18:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC) 4270:16:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC) 4254:17:33, 26 January 2022 (UTC) 4223:16:57, 26 January 2022 (UTC) 4204:19:11, 23 January 2022 (UTC) 4189:18:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC) 4114:18:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC) 4059:Haversham-cum-Little Linford 4044:Coldharbour, Buckinghamshire 4017:Campbell Park (civil parish) 3945:04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC) 3756:Teikyo School United Kingdom 3744:23:23, 5 February 2016 (UTC) 3714:featured article review here 3507:16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC) 3455:21:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC) 3149:22:26, 4 February 2013 (UTC) 3126:07:25, 3 December 2012 (UTC) 3114:Transport in Buckinghamshire 3110:Geography of Buckinghamshire 3102:Military History WikiProject 3096:23:13, 2 December 2012 (UTC) 3054:18:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC) 2940:23:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 2852:12:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC) 2828:12:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC) 2799:20:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC) 2752:22:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC) 2411:) related to your project. 2391:03:03, 22 January 2010 (UTC) 1964:Transport in Buckinghamshire 1962:I have created the article, 1952:23:19, 4 December 2008 (UTC) 1860:19:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC) 1598:Articles flagged for cleanup 1325:Talk:Milton Keynes Dons F.C. 1254:Bletchley Past & Present 804:That's about all for now :) 773:Geography of Buckinghamshire 763:Education in Buckinghamshire 7: 4564:A discussion is ongoing at 4338:but didn't get a response. 3880:I have been working to get 3646:Thanks, and happy editing! 3624:Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook 3395:22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC) 3382:. 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