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player of the year, defensive player of the year, freshman player of the year, freshman offensive player of the year, etc. . . . Sure, and why not all-conference honors for each position or by year? Conference championship team navboxes? What about conference statistical "champions?" The previous understanding was that we would create conference-level navboxes as an exception, and only for the
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do not suffer from a shortage of navboxes. Quite the contrary. We already have them for national awards and honors from the Heisman Trophy to consensus All-American honors, and, in my opinion, that's where the emphasis should remain . . . not on the Pac-12 Freshman defensive Player of the Year or anything similar.
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conference awards of unusually long standing and tradition, such as the Big Ten's Silver Football Award which receives significant media coverage every year in the Midwest. Maybe the Pac-12's Morris Trophy rises to the same level. Then again, maybe it doesn't. Knowledge's college football articles
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per the previous WP:CFB understanding that we were not going to create navboxes for every conference-level CFB award. While it is entirely appropriate to include these conference awards in infoboxes, it is overkill to create navboxes for conference coach of the year, player of the year, offensive
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Agree that there is a problem with clutter. However, the process of determining whether or not a navbox is notable is generally ad hoc. Personally, I think any award that would reasonably be mentioned in the lead of an
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on the topic asking if there was any consensus. None was subsequently demonstrated in that discussion (while both as-is support and refactoring for some of the navboxes was observed). Likewise, a
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exists for this exact type of nomination. Superfluous navboxes should not be included on articles when all they do is clutter them. That POY is an especially egregious offender.
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did not immediately find any relevant discussion/consensus. Review of the coaches in particular and players in general shows overlink crisis not to be a general issue.
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biography is a minimum starting point for evaluating notable navboxes. A Player/Coach of the Year award for a major NCAA conference meets the criteria.—
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as navbox clutter. Just because an award is "notable" by Knowledge standards doesn't necessitate a navbox.
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Regardless, request the nom to rephrase, or link, regarding the statement of consensus, as one month ago
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's
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has been that conference awards navboxes are overkill that lead to clutter and
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They are notable awards so I see no reason why they can't exist.--
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Knowledge:Templates for discussion
Log
January 2
January 4
talk page
deletion review
Plastikspork
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01:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Template:Pacific-12 Coach of the Year
talk
history
transclusions
logs
subpages
Template:Morris Trophy
talk
history
transclusions
logs
subpages
Template:Pacific-12 Player of the Year
talk
history
transclusions
logs
subpages
WikiProject College football
overlink crisis
Jweiss11

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