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editors on the same topic. The sort of dispute that normally goes to ANI not AE. That the dispute has failed at AE indicates to me that possibly the dispute keeps going to the wrong venue. I'm also seeing that people are saying the case is complex. Is that because the dispute is unclear, and/or is being presented in the wrong places? If someone can explain from what
Icewhiz has presented what would be the scope of this case, that would be a help. For me, what I see is a clash between two editors that could be resolved by an IBan, and a discussion regarding a possible Topic ban for one or either or both which could be appealed after six months. If those who monitor and edit articles relating to Jews in Poland find that topic area is more stable and productive after the outcome of whatever ANI decide, then the matter has been resolved. If problems continue in that area, then the matter can again be brought to the community and sanctions stepped up. Only at the point where the community cannot agree on sanctions, or the community have run out of options should it come to ArbCom. So, again, as presented, this appears to be a dispute between two editors, and so I feel it would be quicker and easier to resolve at ANI; however, if someone can put forward a case request, naming the parties that should be in the case and why, then I will look again, and if appropriate vote to accept.
2115:"It's not just the troubling/sloppy sourcing that's occurring (and these are likely the tip of the iceberg), it's the constant battleground mentality that affects most editors in this area. One person adds something that's sloppily sourced, the other side reverts and screams bloody murder on the talk page, but then that second side adds something else that's also sloppily sourced and then the first side starts screaming bloody murder. And everything is accompanied by endless reverts ... there is not any way for third party editors who aren't invested in the conflict to actually contribute for any length of time because it's just so dreadfully draining. 1RR doesn't seem to help, because there are multiple editors on each "side" so ... the reverts just roll in and people who aren't on a side just give up and walk away - I've done it often enough."
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saying goes, you can't get justice from a bored judge. If there aren't enough arbitrators who are interested in taking the case or think they can be helpful or have the time necessary to devote to it, I still see like a dozen editors commenting here who are qualified and could look at diffs together and perhaps at least identify what the problem is, exactly, which might lead to solutions. So, I'm saying, if Arbcom doesn't take the case, perhaps the editors commenting here could just set up a task force or a commission of sorts and just examine the evidence anyway and see where that goes. The analysis might proceed diff by diff, or source by source, or article by article, or editor by editorâI'm not sureâbut it seems like we have the resources we need in this very group of editors to investigate the problem.
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positions on the content and I am in no position to decide who is misusing sources and who is not. The behaviour here is inextricably linked to the content. When one editor accuses another of peddling anti-semitic sources, either they are right or they are making a personal attack. When the other editor responds with an accusation of peddling racist, anti-Polish sources, either they are right or they are making a personal attack. It is true that neither side's style of interacting with each other has helped, but the real-world argument is fundamentally about genocide vs holocaust denial; this is never going to be an easy area to edit in. In the end, I took a week's holiday and someone jumped in with a three-month TBAN for both; it clearly has resolved nothing.
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that originated in the pre-1939 National
Democracy movement and its extreme formations. His interpretation of Polish-Jewish relations in World War II and in the early postwar period, 1944-47, is based on the concept of a zero-sum conflict between ethnic Poles and Jews. Chodakiewicz casts the two communities as separate nations engaged in the struggle for survival without noting that they were part of one society in which ethnic Poles represented the dominant majority group and Polish Jews were one of the ethnic/national minorities. Even when he acknowledges that Polish Jews were a minority, as he does in Massacre in Jedwabne, he regards them primarily as the carrier of a culture intrinsically incompatible with the culture of ethnic, Christian Poles."
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not an independent historian, but the mouthpiece of the World Jewish
Congress, an organization with an aggressive restitution agenda, for whom he works as a research and editorial officer. The book was edited by Avi Beker, Director of International Affairs, WJC and Executive Director of the Israel Office. It is clearly a POV effort. In order to bolster Weinbaumâs bogus claim that the Polish authorities blocked the return of Jews from DP camps in Germany, Icewhiz engaged in a flagrant misrepresentation, claiming âThe âgrossly discrimanatoryâ Polish act was criticized by US president Truman,â whereas according to the very source he cited, Truman was criticizing certain provisions of the 1948 Displaced Persons Act.
4607:, reluctantly. I find these source-heavy cases difficult when I don't know anything about the topic, and it's not an area where arbcom overall has a strong record of success (in part because you really have to consciously stop yourself from making judgments about personalities and self-presentation if the meat of the material is difficult to wrap your mind around). But I think it's clear from the comments from AE admins and others not involved in the dispute that there's something here that would benefit from a careful structured inquiry. Of course, accepting a case request does not mean accepting its original framing and I think it's worth emphasizing that cases examine the conduct of
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it rapidly becomes a battleground. All that does is drive editors like myself (who are not Polish or Jewish and who have at least some passing familiarity with the sources and historical methods) right out of editing in the area. I really doubt that ANI will be of any help, but I can't dredge up the time to find the diffs and lay out the reasons for accepting this beyond what I've posted above. Look at the RS noticeboard discussion and the ANI, and you'll see that it's not just the two named editors above, but a whole host of editors, some of them probably socks of banned editors, some of them SPAs, some of them definitely here to push a narrative that's not mainstream.
2431:), he retired, saying effectively 'if this is the reward I get from the community after so much work, bye'. This is a testament to the misguided cowboy random lottery ban that is AE, and to how certain admins should be politely asked to move to a different mop'n'bucket area instead of making a desert, and calling it peace. It also offers a constructive option for this ArbCom (given that Poeticbent is somehow a 'party' to it) - this topic ban should be reviewed and rescinded, with an apology issued. This could bring a prolific content creator back. And what is a better outcome than getting another 1000+ quality articles in this topic area?
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instances of the problem. The filing user is also expected to show that prior dispute resolution has already been attempted. Exceptions apply to situations where the
Arbitration committee is the only possible venue of dispute resolution, e.g. those involving sensitive real-life evidence, or administrator misconduct. The Request is intended to be a summary of the available evidence including enough information to show why Arbitration is needed. You are not trying to prove your case at this time: if your case is accepted for Arbitration, an evidence page will be created that you can use to provide more detail.
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But when editors go beyond discussing how to improve the article and resort to personal attacks and bad faith accusations, then the community needs to step in and issue sanctions. If the community feels that the current systems in place for dealing with POV Battles is not appropriate, then the community should be actively looking for such a system (and some have been mentioned on this request page). I have faith in this community. In the inventiveness of this community. But the community will not be able to resolve this and future such issues if they keep directing ArbCom to sort it out.
1847:, SPLC, 29 November 2009, quote:"Chodakiewicz, who describes himself as "a Christian conservative of Polish ancestry," has written favorably about Francisco Franco, the late anti-Communist dictator known for his brutal suppression of the Spanish left. He is an admirer of the late shah of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, an autocratic leader who criticized American Jews for "controlling" U.S. media and finance. He sees gay rights as a threat to society, has linked President Barack Obama to communists and domestic terrorists, and is a voluble critic of what he sees as Western "political correctness.""
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bias. Icewhiz description of one of those camps is correct - as long as one accepts that it comes from another camp... which in turn is described in a similar pejorative way by the other. While there is some mainstream 'center', the content problem we face is that the 'more extreme' camps both have some more or less reliable scholars, and the related discussions often involve inconclusive discussions of whether some author/source is an expert, fringe, etc.. All of this is further complicated by a number of issues, such as political interference (ex. both
2019:. Icewhiz is acting like he's some kind of martyr, battling others to remove these sources, but in reality nobody gives a fudge if he removes them (or even support these removals). The problem is that Icewhiz is removing OTHER well sourced material. Indeed, he'll often use the mere existence of unreliable sources - which are not being used - as an excuse to remove OTHER, reliable, sources. "Oh look, there is this unreliable source Nasz Dziennik out there that nobody here actually wants to use, that means I get to remove all the DIFFERENT reliable sources
2443:. This lack of desire to compromise on his part, given that he is now one of the most active editors in this area, is, IMHO, one of the main causes why this topic area became unstable. While source quality and neutrality are often improved in the end, many articles in that area keep swinging from one side (camp...) to the other, as unwillingness to compromise breeds likewise mentality 'on the other side'. A major problem is that some editors refuse to accept sources from 'the other camp', and a lot of warring is due to that.
6614:: All IP editors, users with fewer than 500 edits, and users with less than 30 days' tenure are prohibited from editing articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933â45), including the Holocaust in Poland. This prohibition may be enforced preemptively by use of extended confirmed protection (ECP), or by other methods such as reverts, pending changes protection, and appropriate edit filters. Reverts made solely to enforce the 500/30 rule are not considered edit warring.
6218:: All IP editors, users with fewer than 500 edits, and users with less than 30 days' tenure are prohibited from editing articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933â45), including the Holocaust in Poland. This prohibition may be enforced preemptively by use of extended confirmed protection (ECP), or by other methods such as reverts, pending changes protection, and appropriate edit filters. Reverts made solely to enforce the 500/30 rule are not considered edit warring.
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everybody who is even tangentially involved here). I do not think ArbCom can resolve it either. One needs some brainstorming on what are the best practices of dealing with partisan sources of unclear notability (the main issue here), when the reliable sources noticeboard can not help. This brainstorming can happen in the framework of this case, or elsewhere, but, to be honest, I am not that hopeful: Existing processes already failed, and the community is unlikely to accept any new process at this point.--
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equivalent is not available. Where editors translate a direct quote, they should quote the relevant portion of the original text in a footnote or in the article. There is no requirement for a translation of the source in other circumstances, although courtesy and good practice suggest that if a genuine concern arises concerning the content or reliability of the foreign-language source, providing a translation or paraphrase of the relevant portion of its content will help address the concern.
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than accusing them of the other one; I'll let you work out which is more 'damning'. Not all bigots are equal...). Anyway, the point is that while it is easy to weed out unreliable non-academic sources (ex. far right, nationalistic press, etc.) it is much more challenging to decide if a professor, who still teaches, publishes and generally is not pelted with tomatoes or ostracized by his peers or neighbors, is an unreliable anti-something or just biased within bounds acceptable by NPOV.
2439:. Now, it is hardly Icewhiz's sole doing - it takes 'two to tango', and there are other editors active in this topic area. Icewhiz's input is valuable as it represents a viewpoint from one of the 'camps' I mentioned in my previous paragraph that was indeed unfairly underrepresented, and I commend Icewhiz on improving the neutrality of the coverage in this area. However, it is also my view that he is unwilling to compromise with the 'other camp' editors. I describe such an attitude
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publications of hundreds on
Jedwabne cited and relied on by Peter Longerich, a leading German Holocaust historian, in his Holocaust: The Nazi Persecution and Murder of the Jews (Oxford University Press, 2010). Joanna Michlic has herself been exposed as a biased author who specializes in detecting alleged antisemitism at every turn. See for example, Joshua Zimmerman, The Polish Underground and the Jews, 1939â1945 (Cambridge University Press, 2015), at p. 103â104.
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is in effect, when a source that is not a high quality source (an article in a peer-reviewed scholarly journals, an academically focused book by a reputable publisher, and/or an article published by a reputable institution) is added and subsequently challenged by reversion, no editor may reinstate the source without first obtaining consensus on the talk page of the article in question or consensus about the reliability of the source in a discussion at the
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in effect, when a source that is not a high quality source (an article in a peer-reviewed scholarly journal, an academically focused book by a reputable publisher, and/or an article published by a reputable institution) is added and subsequently challenged by reversion, no editor may reinstate the source without first obtaining consensus on the talk page of the article in question or consensus about the reliability of the source in a discussion at the
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at very complex situations, a group of editors to pick apart at an issue with a toothpick until it unravels itself, throwing it at ANI is like making fillet with a chainsaw â is it possible? Yes, but is that the most reliable way? Definitely not. Most ANI threads which sprawl over walls of text end up with next to no solution (mostly) and my instinct tells me that will be the case here as well. The declining committee members should reconsider. --
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even due, to the occasional conflict between those two editors (and few others). As I suggested above, the most constructive course of action, instead of banning anyone, could be, gasp, to anti-ban
Poeticbent and invite him back with an apology, so that he could resume his mass production of relevant articles and DYKs. His loss has hurt us all, and his return would be the only clear win for this topic area I can imagine. --
4582:(emphasis original) unless they have an independent reason to do so. If you do have such evidence, please pass it along, but I expect you do not in fact have any evidence that anyone is making edits at the "direction" of an editor blocked eight years ago, and you're really trying to make a different point about retaining material contributed by a blocked editor, somewhere along the lines of the rationale underlying
1835:, SPLC, 17 July 2017, quote:"Chodakiewiczâs far-right beliefs have not only centered on dabbling in anti-Semitism. In January of 2017, he penned a piece lamenting what he called the âongoing genocide against Whitesâ in South Africa. The term âwhite genocideâ is a common white nationalist trope, with many pointing to South Africa and falsely claiming that white people are systematically massacred by people of color."
4838:. I'm reasonably convinced that this is intractable as is, and will require the kind of back-breaking that ArbCom was set up for. We're not qualified to establish the reliability of the sources, but I think we can examine whether the sources presented are being quoted correctly (misrepresenting what a source says is a conduct issue, IMO) and whether or not that's being done systematically/intentionally. â
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day, these are run-of-the-mill accusations that
Wikipedians often throw at each other. To the extent that it's not the ArbComâs job to adjudicate content disputes (thatâs a matter for likes WP:RSN etc) I would advise the committee to take this case ONLY IF they are willing to look into sources, check whatâs actually in them, delve into whoâs misrepresenting what.
3741:, above, wrote, and strongly recommend to accept a case to determine whether there is systematic misconduct by established editors in this topic area. Discretionary sanctions are available, but not helpful here, because the underlying dispute about sourcing is too difficult for AE admins not versed in the relevant scholarship (i.e., everybody) to get a grip on.
4480:. I do feel that POV Battles should be of greater concern to the community, and that the community should be looking for better ways to prevent them happening in the first place. Pushing this to ArbCom or AE is not the way that the community should be dealing with such disputes, and is certainly not the long term solution to POV Battles.
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2835:- do you see only Polish nationalistic bias here? Many edits by Icewhiz are biased anti-Polish. Icewhiz pretends to be an expert in Polish history, but he doean't read Polish, he uses computer translations of Polish language texts, which he sometimes misunderstands. Anti-Semitism is wrong, but is anti-Polonism acceptable?
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out more or less as
Icewhiz claims, then the appropriate remedy or remedies are rather simple: A topic ban of VM (and possibly the other two editors) from Poland-Holocaust, and possibly also a one-way IBan with Icewhiz (or at least a final warning not to stalk him). And sanctions on the other two editors as appropriate.
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academically focused book by a reputable publisher, and/or an article published by a reputable institution is removed from an article, no editor may reinstate the source without first obtaining consensus on the talk page of the article in question or consensus about the reliability of the source in a discussion at the
4550:? (Separately, unless you have specific evidence of relevant interactions, I'd drop the "proxying" stuff for now and focus on issues that are current and actionable. But then, this is my personal preference; I don't generally consider claims of "proxying". People can get their editing ideas from wherever they like.)
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The forum should not be simply geared up to looking at wrong-doing and assigning sanctions or not. It should be looking at solutions. And allowing cross talk that sparks imaginative ideas. Looking at the conduct between IW and VM we have them often reverting each other. VM will sometimes remove several paragraphs
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choice of central articles will flow to other articles in the affected area. I am sure their are other examples, in Arb cases, but look to the
Muhammad arb case, and related mediation. (Perhaps 'Troubles' and 'abortion' too). I think it would be good to accept because, if you do it right, it will clear the way.
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this behavior (including misrepresenting sources and concerted efforts to push certain viewpoint) is going on for years, so that I am not sure what else can be done here. Most admins prefer to stay away from the area, and those who dive in and start blocking established editors quickly burn out or walk away.--
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focused book by a reputable publisher, and/or an article published by a reputable institution is removed from an article, no editor may reinstate the source without first obtaining consensus on the talk page of the article in question or consensus about the reliability of the source in a discussion at the
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we do here is look to see if this is the sort of situation that ArbCom can and should deal with. For that we simply need a summary of the concern, links to where previous dispute resolution has been tried and failed, and a few representative examples of the conduct that is causing concern. Please read
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While asking the enforcing administrator and seeking reviews at AN or AE are not mandatory prior to seeking a decision from the committee, once the committee has reviewed a request, further substantive review at any forum is barred. The sole exception is editors under an active sanction who may still
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Administrators are free to modify sanctions placed by former administrators â that is, editors who do not have the administrator permission enabled (due to a temporary or permanent relinquishment or desysop) â without regard to the requirements of this section. If an administrator modifies a sanction
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is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views. Users should approach article talk page discussions as a place to advance arguments, listen to other users, and try to
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On the surface as framed, this appears to be an upset between two editors, but I'm glad I held off on posting. I'm persuaded by GoldenRing's links especially, this has been going on for a while, and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better. I can't say it's a case I relish taking on, but you
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Accepting a case would help in two ways: Firstly, the structure of the evidence phase would help to assemble the competing arguments in a forum that doesn't lend itself to screaming and bickering. ANI is the wrong venue for this; the formality of a case is what is required here. Secondly, the arbs
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we were at ANI/AE. I disagree with your approach to PA, however: other than being a sort of baiting that even experienced editors might fall for, repeated PA make the discussion quite unpleasant, which has an emotional toll on editors. There's no reason
Knowledge should be a "toxic work environment".
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Last year Icewhiz and K.e.coffman concocted a bogus attempt to discredit a major book, Sowjetische Partisanen, by historian Bogdan Musial, published by a renowned German publishing house (Schoningh, 2009) and hailed by Yehuda Bauer, a leading Holocaust historian, as âa most important contributionâ to
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In my opinion, the primary problem here is not a conflict between two users. The root of this conflict is the worrying tendency of admins to focus on behavioural issues and ignoring the cases when minor or even major misinterpretations of sources are committed in attempt to push some minority POV. It
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dispute â I stand corrected. But I still feel an Arbitration case is due here. Because the problem ANI is likely to face if this were to be brought before it stem from the sheer complexity of the evidence involved. Yes, even if the remedies themselves might, at a glance, seem fairly straight forward.
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the AE request. I am also the only admin who made attempts at addressing the request, feeling it was a 50-50 about whether this should go to Arbitration, instead. The other three admins did not, however, share such reservations, with all of them recommending it should be referred to Arbitration. So I
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There's more to this complex conflict than just Icewhiz and VM but... I'm right in the middle of moving and just do not have the time to devote to digging up diffs and dealing with it. The behavior on display here in this request is just an example of what happens when a conflict arises in the area -
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I donât know what could be done at this point to restore the good faith. I think with some of the others involved in the conflict, like Francois Robere, yeah⌠good faith can still be assumed, despite everything. But with Icewhiz, the guy needs to seriously rethink and redo how he approaches Knowledge
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This is simply lying and smearing. Obviously I said no such thing nor did I imply it. Itâs an abhorrent thing to say and for personal reasons, I am disgusted that someone would accuse someone of such a thing. With both the original insinuation and the odious claim about Holocaust victims Icewhiz did
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In regard to the diffs against me, I tried to respond. And quickly ran out of the word limit. However, all these are content disputes. I do want to say that they misrepresent and falsify the nature of these disputes. Icewhiz accuses me of âUNDUEâ or âORâ etc, and it's all false, but at the end of the
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All articles and edits in the topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland are subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction. When a source that is not an article in a peer-reviewed scholarly journal, an academically
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The Arbitration Committee advises that administrators may impose "reliable-source consensus required" as a discretionary sanction on all articles on the topic of Polish history during World War II (1933-45), including the Holocaust in Poland. On articles where "reliable-source consensus required" is
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5) The Arbitration Committee advises that administrators may impose "reliable-source consensus required" as a discretionary sanction on all articles on the topic of Polish history during World War II (1933-45), including the Holocaust in Poland. On articles where "reliable-source consensus required"
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6) Participants in this topic area have demonstrated significant battleground behavior, often apparently reflecting efforts to "win" content disputes via conduct-review mechanisms. Icewhiz has been involved in an unusually large number of AE requests as filer, subject, or commenter. Both Icewhiz and
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5) Wherever possible, English-language sources are preferable to sources in other languages so that English-speaking readers can readily verify the content of the article and, if desired, can consult the source for more information. However, sources in other languages are acceptable where an English
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ArbCom will not be able to sort this out, nor will AE, as both forums have the wrong sort of structure, and the wrong remit. Discussions related to this dispute need to be freer and looser than the rigid forms of AE and ArbCom allow. There needs to be greater interchange between the people involved.
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Discussion on POV can be really helpful to the strength and neutrality of an article. If people are not questioning POV then bias can creep in. So it is important to have such discussions, and it is helpful to have two editors (or groups of editors) who are approaching a topic from different angles.
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Folks, please stop arguing the case here. The Committee are not interested at this stage in looking at every single diff, and arguments back and forth on the implications of such diffs. Such detail is for the evidence page if a case is opened. There is no need for extravagant length statements. What
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As there appear to be only two people involved in this - Icewhiz and Volunteer Marek, I think this could be sorted quicker and easier on ANI, perhaps by an interaction ban and/or topic ban. Only if the community are unable to solve this problem should ArbCom get involved, and as there doesn't appear
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ok maybe not assess sourcing in huge detail but you need to at least take note if people add material that has been warped or misrepresented from the source, or reliable sources replaced with unreliable sources. This sort of editing is much more insidious and damaging to wikipedia. If two people are
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To put it quite simply, this is too much for ANI. I understand the rationales that the ArbCom members are putting forward but what's important is that if it's thrown back to the community, the chances of a resolution are close to nil. The main reason of having an ArbCom is to enact targeted remedies
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I just want to say that I do think ARBCOM should take the case, it is not just a dispute between Icewhiz and VM and it should not just be an ANI or DR issue. I want to echo what Ymblanter said. I also want to say that there is currently a concerted effort by Polish nationalists to distort and revise
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I am doing quite some admin work (I might be even the most active admin currently in Eastern European topics, though not specifically Polish), and I see similar behavior a lot. On the other hand, we have already authorized discretionary sanctions in the EE area (and in some more specific areas), and
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propose the text, which they add to the article. What is important, the procedure of source selection is transparent now, so there will be no accusation of cherry picking, and it will be easy to see which POV is major and which is minor. And, most importantly, since both sources and the procedure of
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4. Final thought. Would topic banning both Ice and VM solve the issue here? I dislike bans, but it would be nice to see peace and quiet return to this topic area again. But perhaps some conflict is preferable to lack of neutrality, as in the end, IMHO this topic area as improved despite, and perhaps
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third, Icewhiz. Per his statement, he joined this topic area in December 2017. In my view, his input has been valuable (for example, per his diff, he saved an article from AfD; while I was the nominator of that, in hindsight I concur keeping it was the right choice). But it is also a fact that until
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have state-sponsored research institutes which are not immune to political agendas), and political correctness (as in, associations of antisemitism, anti-Polish attitude, and the imperfect balance between those - i.e. accusing person of one of those attitudes carries a bit more negative connotations
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The Committee may apply the "Reliable source consensus-required restriction" to specified topic areas. For topic areas with this restriction, when a source that is not an article in a peer-reviewed scholarly journal, an academically focused book by a reputable publisher, and/or an article published
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Where I am shifting in thinking is that this should be shoved to ANI just to hand out bans. GoldenRing says Topic bans have been tried, and that's not worked. And a user in this topic area has been issued a Topic ban, and has since given up all editing of Knowledge. I'm not ruling out issuing such
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I'm seeing that people are saying we should accept this case, but the case as presented before us is of one editor accusing another editor of hounding him and inappropriate edits, and the accused editor saying the fault goes the other way. So - as presented - this is a behaviour dispute between two
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There are some really great, insightful statements here by many editors. I see a group of experienced editors and admin here with involvement in this topic area who agree, I think unanimously, that there is a serious problem that needs addressing. They disagree about what the problem is, never mind
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there applies equally to this case and I urge the arbs to read it; the TL;DR is that sorting this out requires either a plauge-on-both-your-houses approach or such a deep understanding of the academic historiography of Jews in Poland in the 1930s & 40s that no-one is going to be qualified to do
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Looking at some of the editing history of articles related to this report, I see Icewhiz constantly discussing content through policy, always being polite, and dropping the stick when things get too tangled up. My experience editing with Icewhiz in other articles is that he's usually quite accurate
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Icewhiz has also been disruptive in purely Polish-related matters. He recently deleted all the edits I made to the Canadian Polish Congress article on the stated pretext: âWe prefer reliable secondary sources over the website of the subject.â When I restored them he accused me of edit warring on my
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This arbitration request is misplaced. It is based on the faulty premise that (presumably) Polish-background Wiki editors and sources are biased and unreliable. In fact, Icewhiz has been involved in biased, unreliable and even fraudulent postings. Icewhiz is not part of the solution, rather a large
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a judgement of one's expertise (the party that has not been sanctioned gets a right to continue editing, which is an implicit acknowledgement of expertise). Obviously, this is a dramatic modification of traditional criteria, and these criteria are definitely worse, because uncivil behaviour have no
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as soon as proper decorum is observed. Based on my own experience, I can say that it takes enormous time and efforts to figure out a real origin of fake information in Knowledge and to eradicate it. It is a really worrying tendency, because Knowledge has tons of mirrors that give a wide circulation
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second, Poeticbent, who retired in early 2018? Nonetheless his case deserves more consideration, because Poeticbent was the most prolific editor in Polish-Jewish topics, easily measured by ~1000+ articles he started, hundreds of which ended up at DYK, and a few as GA. For example, he wrote probably
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In any event, this is actually a disagreement on multiple pages between Icewhiz and several other people (excluding SPA and occasional contributors). If you remove Icewhiz from this subject area, the conflict will stop (the conflicts started when Icewhiz joined this subject area). If you remove VM,
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I am completely uninvolved. Neither AE nor ArbCom seem to me to be currently appropriate venues for this. The appropriate venue would be ANI, so all efforts at resolution have not been attempted, and therefore I recommend that ArbCom decline the case. The case belongs at ANI, and if the diffs check
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The first 6 diffs from Icewhiz have nothing to do with me, they concern users which have long ceased editing Knowledge. Putting aside the question of whether Icewhiz is presenting these honestly, I am not going to respond to them, except to note that itâs strange for Icewhiz to try and bring a case
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1) The purpose of Knowledge is to create a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia in an atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect among contributors. Contributors whose actions are detrimental to that goal may be asked to refrain from them, even when these actions are undertaken in good faith;
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However I disagree very strongly with the assertion that the problem is "fundamentally about genocide vs holocaust denial". Actually nobody here is denying the holocaust. The real question is of how to assign relative weights to two undeniable historical facts. One is that a large number of Polish
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GoldenRing's input is helpful as they seem to have experience with this case, but I respectfully disagree about their comments concerning behaviour. It's apparent that both editors have not dwelt with this dispute in the same way: it's one thing to call out someone for using an antisemitic source,
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Recently Icewhiz has been championing Laurence Weinbaum as a reliable source, although his essay in The Plunder of Jewish Property during the Holocaust (New York University Press, 2000) is replete with flagrant errors (p.101), which I detailed under Talk: The History of Jews in Poland. Weinbaum is
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First is his initial presentation of the problem, which included an odious and utterly false insinuation that I was engaged in âHolocaust denial/distortionâ. This is absolute nonsense. Icewhiz did NOT provide a single diff which would even come close to supporting such a contention. He did finally
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are expanded and adapted to cover all articles on the topic of Polish history during World War II (1933-45), including the Holocaust in Poland. Only high quality sources may be used, specifically peer-reviewed scholarly journals, academically focused books by reputable publishers, and/or articles
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I propose that a two-part solution is needed. In the medium run, ArbCom should develop a procedure for handling cases in a faster way than full cases, possibly via panels. In the short run, I recommend that ArbCom act summarily in the case in point. It is clear that the editors in question are
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A suggestion: each "side" produces a list of 5-10 experts who they consider RS in the field; they may also submit a short criticism of the other side's experts. The committee then picks 5-6 experts from the combined list and asks for their input on specific revisions or specific sources, which is
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extremely concerning. An editor who is barely active here over a dozen of years but who is pretty active in the Polish Knowledge suddenly shows up and makes several edits within a short time interval - all of them replacing Polish nationality with Jewish nationality in infoboxes of articles about
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Just a note in passing that there seem to be very conflicting instructions from the arbcom clerks about word limits for statements, and extensions to those word limits. Even as someone who's spent years following these cases, I can't tell who is and is not permitted extensions, or whether all the
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I hope this will work, and that may give us a new tool to deal with that type conflicts. I also believe this will work because the topic of that kind differs from some school football team or anime series articles, which means it is covered by very good quality sources, and additional restriction
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since there are exemptions being granted left and right to the word limit I have no idea what I'm at. Also, if I go over, then you remove, then an exemption is granted, then... removing it in the first place was kind of pointless no? Anyway, since Icewhiz wants to add other people to the case, an
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It is one thing to be falsely accused of violating Knowledge policies like WP:UNDUE or WP:OR. Par for the course. I donât take it personally. But these two accusations go far beyond that. They are personal, hence my initial strong reaction. I would hope that any normal person in the same position
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for this Polish/Jewish topic area. That could be a page where diffs can be presented in an orderly fashion, analyzed by everyone, and discussed. Yes, this could be done by Arbcom in the evidence phase of a case, but maybe that's not the best forum for it (that's not for me to decide). As the old
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discussion has a high chance of spreading bad blood and making things even worse. What's really needed here is not just a determination of who is wrong or right or a set of topic/interaction-bans or whatever, but a deep dive into the disputes within the topic area followed by a well-structured,
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will resolve anything. Either ArbCom should conduct a full evidentiary hearing, or ArbCom should kick the case back to Arbitration Enforcement, or ArbCom should take summary action, or ArbCom should develop a procedure that is in between a full evidentiary hearing and kicking the matter back.
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The request could probably have been phrased more clearly; personally I am of the opinion that ARBCOM should review this topic area more broadly. However, the fear is that it'll result in broad bans for everyone involved as an "easy" solution, rather than a thorough examination and more targeted
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VM. To some degree, a mirror image of Icewhiz representing the views of 'another camp'. There are, of course, differences in attitude (VM seems to have more issues with NPA/CIV than Icewhiz) or history (VM has been involved in this topic area for much longer, and with generally no wiki conflicts
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What this needs is mediation, where the moderator can direct the discussion, and shut down personalization. The mediation should identify the one, two or three central articles to discuss, get the parties either to agree on content or construct RfC's (with research laid out) to settle it. The
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I agree with some editors here that taking this to ANI will create a bigger mess there, and chances of that producing a clear outcome are slim. I concur with François Robere that there is clear evidence here of WP:PA by VM. Icewhiz's response to VM's apparent hounding and PAs has been to bring
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Let me try to reformulate the last part a bit. I think this is a complex dispute which involves not just Icewhiz and VM (who both usually act more or less constructively) but a lot of editors. I do not think there is any way a community can resolve it (with a possible exception of topic-banning
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without any major issues. My own opinion on the constant sloppy referencing is that too many editors are relying on google and not actually reading the whole work. (I'm just going to leave the whole "but the mouthpiece of the World Jewish Congress, an organization with an aggressive restitution
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At that time, I privately asked both participants to explain to me what they saw the dispute as being about. They both deserve credit for their responses; they were, I think, honest and actually tried to help me understand. Sadly, it didn't help. They both have reasoned, reasonable-sounding
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by this dispute. Volunteer Marek (MK) is a prolific participant in the dispute, but seems to be right enough that administrators at AE recognise there is more to the matter than first appearances. That is where the process breaks down. We designed AE to sanction misconduct, not to act as a
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history, and we saw some of that in NYC a few weeks ago during a protest and we are seeing some of that in Knowledge as well as some SPA are popping up. VM's behavior in all this has not been ideal and for whatever reason he seems to be allowed to skate by and this should also be looked into.
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This approach created a situation when Knowledge content, at least, in some sensitive areas covered by DS, became a hostage of emotional stability of the parties involved in the dispute. If one party loses their temper, the second party's POV wins no matter whose interpretation of sources was
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I've been thinking on this, but I'm still of the (now sole) view that this is a POV Battle/Conduct Dispute that should and can be resolved by the community. The origins of the dispute are common on Knowledge - a disagreement on POV in articles that relate to religion/ethnicity/nationality. I
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by almost everyone involved (including far more people than just Icewhiz and Volunteer Marek, as some of the discussion and back-and-forth above shows.) Many, many people in this topic area are operating under an assumption of bad faith for a large number of established users - whether it's
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Icewhiz relies on Joanna Michlic, a minor historian, in an attempt to âproveâ that Musial and Chodakiewicz are nationalist hacks. No major Holocaust historian has paid any heed to what Michlic thinks about these authors. Chodakiewiczâs monograph, The Massacre in Jedwabne, is one of very few
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The primary matter appropriate for ArbCom to address is not the petty one of personal bickering, but the one of honesty and balance in the use of sources. Not to adjudicate reasonable content disputes but to judge whether the principal editors are here to build a great encyclopedia.
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And that concerns a bigger question. If Icewhiz has no shame in showing up here and lying about other editors, then how do you think he approaches Knowledge editing in general? He misrepresents what editors said. He misrepresents sources. He misrepresents Knowledge policies. Etc.
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I'm usually first to call for an end to word-limit fussiness, but there's way too much stuff here and I still can't quite make out what the request is. Given that, I'm hesitant to sent it all back to ANI where the mudslinging problem is worse. (Edited to add: to be clear, I'm
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outlook seems to be irreparable, regardless of how well they otherwise follow the rules. Only ArbCom can provide that, so I urge them to accept despite their misgivings (and despite, I know, the large amount of mostly-thankless work that this case will doubtless entail.)
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Polish citizens of Jewish origin. Accidentally, the ANI request is underway at the time of edits, and accidentally these edits have been already introduced before by other users and reverted by their opponents. This means there is likely a concerted effort similar to the
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was blocked in 2011 for sockpuppetry and subsequently unblocked after an appeal to the Arbitration Committee in March 2012. He last contributed to Knowledge in May 2018. No evidence has been supplied that he has engaged in sockpuppetry or proxying since his departure.
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these questions, in part because the sources are largely written in Polish and there are few uninvolved editors able to read them. This fact has also hampered arbitrators' ability to efficiently investigate claims related to source interpretation and representation.
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Could the community try a Holocaust in Poland Editing Panel? Both would be banned from reverting each other. So if IW or VM find an edit in the topic area that they dislike, they could refer the matter to the Holocaust in Poland Editing Panel who would adjudicate.
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sources that can be found via Google Scholar, Scopus, Jstor, Thompson-Reuter, and few other scientific/scholar search engines. That immediatelly eliminates 90% of garbage sources (which, unfortunately, are allowed per our policy), and lion's share of conflicts will
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article had massive edit wars in early 2018 and the actual issue just keeps boiling under the surface and popping up in different articles (historians, historical figures, organisations, politics etc.) What got this topic into spotlight was the February 2018 Polish
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bans if appropriate, but if the edit warring, personal attacks, and casting aspersions is on investigation less than it appears at first glance at this request, then a better solution could be found, and such a better solution is unlikely to come from AE or ArbCom.
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We are setting the bar too high here. If even we are not sure yet what the dispute entails, what hope does the community have of defining the problem, let alone sorting it? The community designed arbitration for this kind of dispute. Many encyclopedia articles
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Taking into account that I myself was among the Wikipedians whose behaviour was analyzed in the above cited article, and that I was the only user who, according to the author, used a correct approach to judging one's expertise, I believe I can propose a solution.
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the history of the war, the Soviet partisans, and Polish-Jewish partisan relations in Belorussia (Yad Vashem Studies, vol. 38, no. 2). The book was removed from the âBielski Brothersâ article several times as allegedly âfringeâ and âSPSâ (self-published sources).
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teaches history in some college in Alaska. But for some reason it's the latter, not the former, that gets pushed every which way on Knowledge; and it's the former that gets reverted, or worse: smeared. Funny thing is at the end those who try to promote the
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would react the same way. These accusations are not just your usual Knowledge bickering about POV and sources. They betray a cynical, dishonest, willingness to say anything, accuse a fellow editor of anything, misrepresent anything. Just to win a dispute.
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asking for anyone to post still more stuff. I would like to see 2-3 sentences about what value arbcom could add here, preferably 0 of which refer to blocked or inactive editors.) Icewhiz, I don't think "proxying" is really what you mean - the letter of
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editing on their own part, which other people see and take as validation for their own assumption of bad faith.) This is what led to many of the knee-jerk reverts, counter-reverts, use of weak sourcing, sweeping accusations and so on outlined above.
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where just trying to get basic information about a query takes several requests that get drowned out by the fighting between involved editors. I could bring more (plenty more) diffs, but I'll end with my statement from that clarification request:
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extensions were withdrawn and now everyone has to cut back to the standard 750 words. Could an arbitrator please clarify if there is anyone who is permitted a longer submission and, if so, what the actual restriction is? Thank you.
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when it comes to submitting his WP:AE report or the arbitration request. No, as long as contributors work to improve content, this is not tag-teaming and wikistalking, but should be viewed as a productive collaboration.
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My analysis of diffs was removed by the clerks which also removed the diff link to it. If you think you'd like to read it, you have to hunt for it in the page history, because, sigh. Unless it gets oversighted.
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assumptions of holocaust denial, anti-polish sentiment, antisemitism, being here to push a particular POV, or the like. (And, of course, the determination that they need to fight that sort of thing leads to
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who's a project director at Brandeis and a fellow at Harvard and UCL. Like most criticisms in that article, this too was eventually accepted into the consensus "stonewalling" and repeated objections.
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This is certainly not just "Icewhiz vs. VM" or "Icewhiz vs. the rest", as you well know. There are other editors and broader narratives involved.
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from the history of Poland during World War II, including the Holocaust in Poland. This topic ban may be appealed after one year has elapsed.
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from the history of Poland during World War II, including the Holocaust in Poland. This topic ban may be appealed after one year has elapsed.
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edit-warring and one is misrepresenting sources, it needs to be reviewed. You can't punish both without at least trying to figure that out.
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Its exactly this kind of behavior which has led to quick indef blocks in the past. Recently one of Icewhizâs partners in edit warring,
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I recommend accepting this case because of the intensity of the dispute and the inability of AE to deal with such a broad issue. The
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with the comment that these were issues "until 2018-9". Could you please be specific (but brief!) about what aspects of this are
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who is responsible or how to address it. I don't know if this has been tried before on Knowledge, but why not form a sort of
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violations to me. I can't find the same behaviour on Icewhiz's edits, so clearly both sides are not the same here.
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What I am writing is a mainstream POV, whereas you are advocating minority views.
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with only 19% of Poles surveyed possessing such item and 16% confirming its use."
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mentioned my concerns regarding POV Battles a number of times during replies to
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So you are aware, you are at the limit and have no further room for replies. --
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VM has already been warned at least twice against personal attacks / aspersions.
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The Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust: Seredina-Buda-Z
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DID A POLISH FAR RIGHT ACTIVIST HELP DONALD TRUMP WRITE HIS SPEECH IN WARSAW?
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Placeholder: I intend to review this request and vote as soon as possible.
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works well for trolls, flamers, vandals, and other sorts of editors who are
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NOT provide a single diff or supporting piece of evidence. This goes beyond
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Before I propose the solution, I recommend you to read the analysis of the
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is required. If consensus at AE or AN is unclear, the status quo prevails.
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Icewhiz interpreted an apparent error by Poeticbent as a deliberate hoax (
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First, in my opinion, any suggestion that a dispute should be resolved at
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particularly in non-English sources that few editors are willing to verify
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the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or
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having made a statement and been involved in prior dispute resolution.
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Knowledge:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Golden Harvest or Hearts of Gold?
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2) On Knowledge, the reliability and accuracy of content is paramount.
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a concerted effort by Polish nationalists to distort and revise history
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case ("Article sourcing expectations") is amended to read as follows:
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ask the enforcing administrator to reconsider their original decision;
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agenda" aside as restitution claims are only part of the WJC's remit)
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Regarding the portions of Icewhizâs statement I do wish to respond to
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with the superstition according to which it brings prosperity. But it
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considers sourced on-topic descriptions of antisemitism in Poland as:
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Any violations of the remedies passed in the case should be raised at
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive252#François_Robere
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive252#Volunteer_Marek
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive238#Volunteer_Marek
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This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
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I'm just going to link to my statement from a month and a half ago -
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6406:. If the editor is blocked, the appeal may be made by email through
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Volunteer Marek were topic-banned for three months in July 2018 for
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive236#GizzyCatBella
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive231#GizzyCatBella
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to evaluate sourcing. We tried that once and it just doesn't work.
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You have been extended to a total of 1250 words by Arbitrators. --
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you are over 1700 words please trim your statement to 750 words. --
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conflict between several Wikipedians around the Vietnam war article
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Donald Trumpâs Visit to Poland Further Emboldens Far-Right Elements
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is light subject matter, but this occurs throughout the topic area.
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Knowledge:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 266# Jew with a coin
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945:: related to 1+2, obfuscation of local killings+explusion+Jedwabne.
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Guide_to_arbitration#Case_request_statements
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The increased word count has been extended to all participants. --
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image is not only widespread: one in two respondents associated it
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election notice to the People's Council of Western Belarus in 1941
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should not be given to aspects that are peripheral to the topic.
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13) In June 2018, as part of an arbitration enforcement action,
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edit by VM. What? It was written: "a Polish officer ... of the
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Volunteer Marek and Icewhiz both topic-banned for three months
2948:. This is a Knowledge, not a forum to discuss NYC local events.
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has been corrected by Tomasz Frydel from Toronto, co-author of
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Icewhiz tells that many sources have been misrepresented, like
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6538:("Icewhiz and Volunteer Marek interaction-banned") is renamed
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procedure for the standard appeals and modifications provision
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at ANI getting a realistic handle on it is vanishingly small.
1453:(either very poor quality, or misrepresentation) is rampant -
891:) which were used in hundreds of articles. I have also fixed:
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Evidence § Volunteer Marek's harrassment of Icewhiz: Hounding
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive248#Tatzref
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive237#Icewhiz
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive233#Icewhiz
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive231#Icewhiz
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive237#Icewhiz
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive248#Tatzref
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nothing will change except having one good contributor less.
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while admitting he did not actually check the sources himself
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first, why are we talking about Loosmark, banned since 2010?
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in this English translation of an article by Ewa Tartakowsky
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this request is first and foremost about Poeticbent/Loosmark
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adopted 3 May 2014, this provision did not require a vote.
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adopted 3 May 2014, this provision did not require a vote.
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removed to fit into the 1000 words limit. I seems obsolete
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read this discussion with was inspired by the current case
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is very limited in Poland and doesn't have wide popularity
1309:. These are all actionable under DS, and easy to evaluate.
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Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment
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described above will not affect the content negatively.--
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SilkTork, I thought ANI (like AE) was unable to resolve
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Talk:Jew with a coin/Archive 1#Dobrosielski - popularity
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arbitration case remain in effect for this topic area.
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arbitration case remain in effect for this topic area.
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Is there a relationship to the current ANI discussion:
1445:"Another survey" also wrong. After the last revert, I
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describing this as "excuse to remove well sourced text"
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arbitration case remain in effect for this topic area.
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arbitration case remain in effect for this topic area.
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may remove any Polish editors interested in history.
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Motion: contentious topic designation (December 2022)
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Yeah this looks complex enough to need a case. Also,
3169:, a scholar with 2,000< citations globally, calls
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there is potentially a lot of fake facts in Knowledge
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Icewhiz banned from interacting with Volunteer Marek
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Icewhiz banned from interacting with Volunteer Marek
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Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (6/0/0)
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vote is being counted as an oppose at this time per
1776:"Stalin and the Soviet Famine of 1932-33 Revisited."
1391:. And now we have the following unresolved dispute:
1014:- describes the "Polish operation" (one of multiple
5835:, each other anywhere on Knowledge (subject to the
3077:. I don't understand why admins take it so lightly.
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The Plunder of Jewish Property during the Holocaust
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The Plunder of Jewish Property during the Holocaust
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1720:, and Mel Hecker, Volume II, part A, pages 943-944.
1037:Volunteer Marek (VM), adds little new content (see
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6780:, the Arbitration Committee adopted the following
5772:1) Poeticbent is removed as a party to this case.
5421:Icewhiz made unnecessarily inflammatory comments (
5406:), made unhelpfully sarcastic talk-page comments (
5346:a request for amendment of the Eastern Europe case
3042:Regarding VM's conduct, I'm mainly concerned with
2858:If Icewhiz (mis)uses computer translations, is it
2566:I think a length exception ought to be granted to
6894:is amended to include the following restriction:
6892:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe
6778:2022 adoption of the contentious topics procedure
5584:) including editorializing in Knowledge's voice (
4999:4) All Knowledge articles must be written from a
4616:take matters into their own hands and fire back.
3547:(related to the one linked in my statement above)
2686:Your source is marginal, my source is mainstream.
2350:But maybe I can't see the forest from the trees.
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6348:procedure for the standard enforcement provision
5578:Icewhiz has used inappropriate sources in BLPs (
2700:This source says X, whereas you write it says Y.
1959:below says that this has to do with collapse of
1440:does not automatically follow that people use it
1276:). In retrospect, I should've filed AE with the
587:(implemented on 18:24, 23 September 2023 (UTC))
6663:("Volunteer Marek topic-banned") is rescinded.
6167:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
6118:Passed 4 to 1 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5978:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5931:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5887:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5777:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5757:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5722:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5634:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5618:Passed 5 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5602:Passed 4 to 1 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5564:Passed 5 to 1 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5546:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5524:Passed 5 to 1 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5505:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5485:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5439:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5389:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5105:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5090:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5057:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5037:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
5021:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
4989:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
4969:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
4942:Passed 6 to 0 at 19:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
4650:in favor of other forms of dispute resolution.
2591:I respectfully disagree. To save space, please
2570:, so as to accommodate his complete statement.
1922:- are Holocaust victims killed by Poles "shit"?
6651:Antisemitism in Poland: Motion (December 2020)
6526:Antisemitism in Poland: Motion (December 2019)
6111:reliable source consensus-required restriction
2062:Preliminary statements by uninvolved editors.
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6883:is superseded by the following restriction:
6827:is superseded by the following restriction:
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4320:. It has been passed on to the committee. --
3253:then fed back to the usual ARBCOM processes.
2336:Members of the Committee: I do not envy you!
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1401:tagRemoved: spurious tag based on personal OR
912:Dr. Morris S. Whitcup on Knowledge's articles
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6470:(ii) a passing motion of arbitrators at ARCA
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5123:case. The current dispute has seen numerous
2923:. Grabowski uses false numbers, which isn't
2487:Act on the Institute of National Remembrance
1710:Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, 1933â1945
1708:The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
955:- extermination camp for Jews, described as
5016:substantial consensus of reliable sources.
4379:MOS:ETHNICITY_on_articles_about_Polish_Jews
4049:Thanks for the prompt fix, appreciated. --
2220:Furthermore, Icewhiz claims MOS:ETHNICITIY
1921:"Referring to a <diff of my comment: -->
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1020:"the genocide of Poles in the Soviet Union"
6604:The following is added as a remedy to the
6288:arbitration case, the area also remains a
5186:Withdrawn per advice of responding admins
3970:. It has been passed to the committee. --
3295:not here to contribute to the encyclopedia
2447:prior to Icewhiz joining this topic area).
2067:The following discussion has been closed.
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6598:Antisemitism in Poland: Motion (May 2020)
6207:Superseded version (until September 2021)
6133:
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5403:Volunteer Marek engaged in name-calling (
5370:biographies of living persons noticeboard
5115:3) The topic area at issue is covered by
4291:I've gone ahead and removed the link. --
4245:I've gone ahead and removed the link. --
3591:As tempting as it is to pass this off to
2728:and according to a transparent procedure
1899:against an editor from eight years ago.
6576:) anywhere on Knowledge (subject to the
6249:Superseded version (until December 2022)
5878:) anywhere on Knowledge (subject to the
5740:between Icewhiz and Volunteer Marek was
5713:The effect of this restriction has been
5530:Accusations of sockpuppetry and proxying
4574:says that editors should not make edits
3530:More prior dispute resolution attempts:
3329:However, after reading the statement by
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1225:Clarification (though said all along) -
6793:shall be treated as a reference to the
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6408:Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee
6035:Collaboration in German-occupied Poland
5896:8 to 0 at 02:39, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
5702:Collaboration in German-occupied Poland
5205:Poeticbent topic-banned for six months
5164:Reminder to GizzyCatBella; referred to
2751:, the ground for a conflict disappears.
2706:Accordingly, the sanctions should be:
2524:Collaboration in German-occupied Poland
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1072:agents send Polish families into exile"
1068:"Soviet-armed Jewish militiamen helped
682:centralised arbitration enforcement log
14:
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6487:functionary blocks of whatever nature.
5728:Events since the close of the workshop
5640:Specific-article sourcing restrictions
4964:supporting the information presented.
3578:The root issue here is a breakdown of
3472:too hard for them to sort out using DS
3403:Response after Statement by GoldenRing
2422:single diff perceived as violating NPA
2282:(âa redline conduct issueâ) meaning
2192:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration/PHG
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1594:"Icewhiz symhatises with German Nazis"
1280:- which would've been: allegations of
1220:scholar attributed) clearly failing V.
1168:)), are expected to verify. However -
6926:Knowledge:Arbitration enforcement log
5732:14) Since the close of the workshop:
5700:sourcing restrictions on the article
5119:originally authorized in 2011 in the
5096:Editing environment in the topic area
4478:questions during the ArbCom Elections
2461:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
2129:@SilkTork, yes, thatâs also related.
2017:nobody has a problem with THOSE edits
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963:(Polish citation in article: "Jews".)
614:Watchlist all case (and talk) pages:
6909:Passed 8 to 0 with 2 abstentions by
6844:Passed 7 to 2 with 3 abstentions by
6804:Passed 10 to 0 with 1 abstention by
6708:Passed 10 to 0 with 1 abstention by
6410:(or, if email access is revoked, to
5395:Incivility and inflammatory rhetoric
5111:History at dispute-resolution venues
5052:move the group towards a consensus.
3360:The idea of sending this dispute to
2359:On the mainspace, I had added DS to
1278:worst, and easiest to evaluate diffs
1190:It seems he spent all of 1 minute -
675:Knowledge talk:Arbitration Committee
643:
267:Clarification and Amendment requests
6393:arbitration enforcement noticeboard
6056:Superseded version (until May 2023)
6021:Superseded version (until May 2021)
5831:) are indefinitely prohibited from
5072:1) This complex dispute centers on
3627:Truth and reconciliation commission
3322:Written after reading statement by
961:from all nearby towns and villages"
673:General questions can be raised at
31:
6402:submit a request for amendment at
5833:interacting with, or commenting on
4792:), a small extension seems fine.
4494:. IW will then put the text back:
3966:has requested a further extension
3341:. Such disputes sometimes become
2724:The users must perform the search
2107:. For a more recent problem - see
1409:reverted: "original text was fine"
1387:). Very limited outside input at:
1052:Despite repeated requests to stop,
32:
6953:
6791:discretionary sanctions procedure
6766:at 10:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
6561:interacting with or commenting on
6312:at 10:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
5863:interacting with or commenting on
5624:Challenges in evaluating evidence
4372:Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)
991:"Jewish welcoming banner" in 1939
573:on 10:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
518:on 17:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
6808:at 21:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
6789:21) Each reference to the prior
6746:Standard discretionary sanctions
6674:at 02:34, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
6625:Standard discretionary sanctions
6460:For a request to succeed, either
6414:
6262:Standard discretionary sanctions
6227:Standard discretionary sanctions
5987:at 02:34, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
5581:), made negative edits to BLPs (
5552:Insinuations of Holocaust denial
5473:please. stop. making. stuff. up.
5469:This was Icewhiz making stuff up
5300:Topic ban successfully appealed
2913:And the other teaches history in
2209:Statement by My very best wishes
2105:here for diffs and documentation
647:
584:on 21:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
551:on 02:34, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
174:
6592:at 02:39, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
6559:) is indefinitely banned from
6427:Modifications by administrators
5861:) is indefinitely banned from
5796:at 02:39, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
4979:3) Issues that are contentious
4125:them indicating when commenting
2736:polish resistance movement jews
2712:More stringent source selection
2482:"Polish death camp" controversy
1967:is simply no longer an option.
1850:
1805:
1778:Amsterdam School of Economics.
1755:ObĂłz zagĹady w CheĹmnie n/Nerem
1088:of Jewish background trained...
529:on 02:39, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
6913:at 21:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
6742:extended confirmed restriction
6736:Extended confirmed restriction
6280:extended confirmed restriction
6258:extended confirmed restriction
6173:Extended confirmed restriction
6145:at 21:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
5412:), and personalized disputes (
5047:6) The purpose of a Knowledge
2732:anti-jewish violence in Poland
2669:relation to one's expertise.
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1732:
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1670:10.1080/17504902.2013.11087369
1131:Loosmark, fails verification:
908:AE determining this was a hoax
608:on 21:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
13:
1:
6379:Appeals by sanctioned editors
6000:Article sourcing expectations
5768:Poeticbent removed as a party
4580:of a banned or blocked editor
3152:History of the Jews in Poland
2975:Eastern European mailing list
2361:History of the Jews in Poland
6871:Reliable Sources Noticeboard
6834:Reliable Sources Noticeboard
6795:contentious topics procedure
6698:Reliable Sources Noticeboard
6365:0) Appeals and modifications
6081:Reliable Sources Noticeboard
6067:Reliable Sources Noticeboard
5937:Volunteer Marek topic-banned
5350:reliable sources noticeboard
5027:Non-English language sources
4444:Knowledge:Dispute resolution
3902:'s statement per clerks-l --
3679:Statement by Alanscottwalker
3379:Statement by Stefka Bulgaria
3268:Statement by Robert McClenon
3038:Statement by François Robere
1894:Statement by Volunteer Marek
1423:- is a self contradiction -
859:AE vs. VM referred to ARBCOM
398:Conflict of interest reports
7:
6942:Knowledge arbitration cases
6848:at 16:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
6646:at 19:57, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
6491:discussed at another venue.
6397:administratorsâ noticeboard
6336:Enforcement of restrictions
6300:at 19:57, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
6136:at 16:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
5224:GizzyCatBella topic-banned
4909:17:11, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
3177:heads a research center at
2840:Fighting Polish nationalism
1949:was indefinitely banned by
1078:(not in source) or against
597:on 16:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
540:on 19:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
510:on 14:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
227:Search archived proceedings
10:
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6775:
6718:Amendment (September 2021)
6712:at 18:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
6176:
6127:at 18:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
6090:
5477:Please stop making shit up
4491:, sometimes a single word
3898:I've removed the image in
3516:Please accept this case.
3179:Polish Academy of Sciences
2749:Aumann's agreement theorem
1337:banned on 29 November 2010
983:IceWhizFixHistoryOfTheJews
971:PoeticbentHistoryOfTheJews
562:on 18:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
272:Arbitrator motion requests
35:
6864:with the following text:
6415:
6356:Appeals and modifications
3289:is seriously misguided.
2583:Statement by Paul Siebert
2079:Statement by Softlavender
2004:obvious person to add is
1539:Jan Grabowski (historian)
6854:Amendment (January 2024)
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2562:Statement by Paul August
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2070:Please do not modify it.
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1544:"Polish far-right media"
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5125:arbitration enforcement
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3466:Statement by GoldenRing
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3733:Statement by Sandstein
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3574:Statement by Aquillion
3070:"Stop making shit up"
2964:Statement by Ymblanter
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2278:Further, Icewhiz said
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5335:9 June 2019
5316:30 May 2019
5259:5 July 2018
5240:3 July 2018
5202:23 May 2018
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1759:. Retrieved
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1572:diff Piotrus
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1535:Jan T. Gross
1531:Piotrus here
1479:In terms of
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1039:last article
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6928:, not here.
6399:("AN"); and
6331:Enforcement
6317:Amended by
6308:Amended by
6194:WP:APL50030
6141:Amended by
6132:Amended by
6123:Amended by
5892:Amended by
5792:Amended by
5669:protections
5196:Poeticbent
5183:9 May 2018
5161:9 May 2018
4572:WP:PROXYING
3768:Clerk notes
3355:filibusters
3318:summarily.
3216:sanctions.
2572:Paul August
2540:Blue Police
2326:this case.
2230:show trials
2043:gaslighting
1664:(1): 1â38.
1447:walked away
1345:WP:PROXYING
1264:AE referred
1166:WP:PROXYING
1129:WP:PROXYING
1046:referred AE
516:Case closed
508:Case opened
232:Ban appeals
210:Noticeboard
101:Case clerks
6521:Amendments
6512:Comments:
6374:Committee.
5707:relevance.
5704:, stating
5681:page moves
5537:Poeticbent
5368:) and the
5338:No action
5243:No action
5043:Talk pages
4927:Principles
4121:SilkTork's
4101:GoldenRing
3747:Sandstein
3739:GoldenRing
3518:GoldenRing
3345:(like the
3316:topic-bans
3248:GoldenRing
3059:- about a
3030:Sir Joseph
2943:Sir Joseph
2491:pretending
2466:reply here
2320:impression
2160:Avi Becker
1978:Regarding
1761:2013-05-10
1624:References
1616:references
1493:recent TPM
1425:"only 19%"
1351:- applies.
1012:IceWhizFix
953:IceWhizFix
949:Poeticbent
943:IceWhizFix
939:Poeticbent
931:Poeticbent
925:IceWhizFix
917:Poeticbent
904:IcewhizFix
900:Poeticbent
839:block user
833:filter log
791:block user
785:filter log
756:Poeticbent
739:block user
733:filter log
438:(pre-2016)
425:Statistics
358:Procedures
6412:arbcom-en
6187:WP:APLECP
6179:Shortcuts
5675:deletions
5049:talk page
4790:DeltaQuad
4588:extremely
4578:direction
3873:Fix ping
3714:Cas Liber
3607:Aquillion
3183:the other
3010:Ymblanter
2995:Ymblanter
2980:Ymblanter
2970:this diff
2883:Ymblanter
2605:liberally
2226:Stalinist
1999:DeltaQuad
1928:WP:AGENDA
1527:iUniverse
1481:WP:AGENDA
1291:extremism
1270:Sandstein
1155:WP:BLPSPS
845:block log
797:block log
745:block log
363:Elections
6936:Category
6725:Remedy 7
6687:Remedy 5
6574:contribs
6557:contribs
6101:WP:APLRS
6093:Shortcut
5966:contribs
5920:contribs
5876:contribs
5859:contribs
5829:contribs
5815:contribs
5763:Remedies
5657:contribs
5511:Hounding
5310:Icewhiz
5275:Tatzref
5272:Icewhiz
5253:Icewhiz
5237:Icewhiz
5215:Icewhiz
5199:Icewhiz
5177:Icewhiz
5158:Icewhiz
5139:Subject
4888:contribs
4874:contribs
4514:SilkTork
4504:dispute.
4463:SilkTork
4448:SilkTork
4400:SilkTork
4383:SilkTork
4330:(aka DQ)
4301:(aka DQ)
4255:(aka DQ)
4213:(aka DQ)
4182:(aka DQ)
4162:(aka DQ)
4088:(aka DQ)
4059:(aka DQ)
4030:(aka DQ)
4005:(aka DQ)
3980:(aka DQ)
3955:(aka DQ)
3724:contribs
3480:SilkTork
3335:civility
3211:SilkTork
3148:JUST act
3140:JUST act
3138:and the
3101:SilkTork
3065:a source
2978:into).--
2925:academic
2666:de facto
2597:Ealdgyth
2505:contribs
2196:Ealdgyth
2179:Ealdgyth
2145:Ealdgyth
2131:Ealdgyth
2117:Ealdgyth
1580:WP:NOENG
1251:SilkTork
1207:restored
1143:WP:UNDUE
1034:policy.
815:contribs
767:contribs
715:contribs
77:Workshop
66:Evidence
38:Shortcut
24: |
22:Requests
20: |
6740:7) The
6727:of the
6689:of the
6547:Icewhiz
6278:7) The
6256:7) The
6042:action.
6029:5) The
5910:Icewhiz
5849:Icewhiz
5805:Icewhiz
5749:blocked
5742:enacted
5698:enacted
5145:Result
4901:Cameron
4897:Enacted
4878:Icewhiz
4758:damaged
4747:Accept.
4689:Decline
4652:Piotrus
4648:Decline
4576:at the
4534:Icewhiz
4436:Icewhiz
4351:Cameron
4270:Piotrus
4133:Icewhiz
4074:Piotrus
4045:Icewhiz
4016:Icewhiz
3925:Cameron
3919:Icewhiz
3904:Cameron
3900:Icewhiz
3883:Cameron
3877:Piotrus
3860:Cameron
3854:Piotrus
3839:Cameron
3816:Cameron
3781:Icewhiz
3486:, and
3136:IPN law
3130:Piotrus
2756:jointly
2740:jointly
2726:jointly
2568:Piotrus
2495:Tatzref
2228:regime
2162:(ed.).
1870:4467778
1598:Icewhiz
1576:diff VM
1549:Icewhiz
1516:WP:NPOV
1467:Icewhiz
1378:DYKable
1353:Icewhiz
1311:Icewhiz
1235:Icewhiz
1201:VM has
1176:. e.g.
1094:(below)
1082:(lead)
1028:WP:HOAX
704:Icewhiz
435:Reports
373:History
353:Members
348:Contact
336:Discuss
200:(CU/OS)
6911:motion
6846:remedy
6806:motion
6782:motion
6764:motion
6710:motion
6672:motion
6644:motion
6621:above.
6590:motion
6404:"ARCA"
6319:motion
6310:motion
6298:motion
6223:above.
6143:motion
6134:remedy
6125:motion
5985:motion
5894:motion
5817:) and
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