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starting to understand that, if most
English sources adopt wrong or poor translations, English Knowledge will reflect this and it is perfectly normal, fair and probably not solvable. I remembered now a very similar talk I had one year ago when I met an old it.wiki editor during a Knowledge meeting. He was a member of the very first Italian editors group who started activities in the English only era. He engaged in a dispute relevant to a Florence churchâs true name. Despite he presented data from the monks living in the church, as the majority of English language History and Art books adopt a different name, there was no way to modify the articleâs name. According to him, this was one among reasons for having the multilanguage wiki start. Now I understand better, and I think in the same time, this is perfectly normal due to wikipedia non original work nature which I like and I defend and I strongly defended in other different typologies occasions in the past.
2879:'s "conclusion" that it is likely that I am a sock of Wickzilla I seriously doubt that he or she knows what she is doing. Inferring by what is being said my block of IPs match the ones Wickzilla uses. Big deal. Verizon covers most of the country and they have not two but literally dozens of 16 bit subnets (65,000 hosts each) to use. I chose not to argue the point and figured it would all go away but obviously I was wrong. It appears there are people here that go about making slanderous remarks about others with some pretty flimsy evidence. It really is a shame that the abuse I have endured by
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501s. I suspect that it might be a marketing name as I have never heard of it until today ( and I have several dozen shelf-feet of aviation books, and boxes and boxes of magazines). While I have your attention, User 200.95.202.17 emerged from a week-long block yesterday and immediately went back to his/her old tricks. Someone else reverted his/her edits this time, but I am keeping an eye on him/her to see if s/he pops up again. S/he apparently thinks I am "punishing" him/her (I should stop being gender neutral, it's probably a guy sitting at the keyboard).
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Come on, it's time to accept a reasonable solution, or just leave the page alone. You're not infalible, I'm not infallibe, and HDP is not infallible. We will always disagree on some point. The argument here is is more about interpretation of facts than the straight facts. You need to recognize the interpretational differences, and and try to leave those out and settle on the facts you can agree on. If that means certain things aren't mentioned at all, then so be it! I have a
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2460:"The one thing to avoid is placing articles into a category and into the parent category of that category." Noted. I think I ask this somewhere, but, is there a "master list" of categories? It'd simplify things. And, for those even less aware than me, when the WP assessments go on the talk page(s), maybe a link to that? (I'm thinking, make it as EZ as possible for noobs; I haven't found this, & I've been here awhile.)
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I did not think this was an original research in the negative meaning all over the world
Knowledge have. However, to name an article is a research and if there is no consensus among sources, as Knowledge has only one main article name (but luckly lots of redirects), it is an original research (very little and limitated) and there is no way to take different points in the same name if we do not name the article
954:(On Royalbroil's talk page you said): Hi Royalbroil, and many apologies for not responding sooner. I'd love to help out with this, but as you might have noticed, WikiProject Aircraft is extremely busy at the moment implementing some broad re-organisation of articles. Would there be any problem with asking the contributor to wait a week? I'd be happy to work with him then. Cheers --
2342:). The projects are all doing the same/very similar things, and in my opinion, a single, larger, project would be more effective than three smaller, and somewhat inactive projects.. In light of very little response to messages on the project talk pages, I am now sending this message to all members of all three projects, inviting them to discuss the proposal
2217:(the usual bugaboo) offers extra detail. Here, it's as EZ as a link out. I don't just mean the aviation (or engine, or whatever) specialist, I mean, for instance, scale modellers who've got a kit of a P-39 & want to build the 2-seat trainer they've read about. WP can be the place to come, if not for the width of the canopy frames, then for an XT link to
4561:'s page you'll see the link concerning it. I'll do whatever needs to be done tomorrow because i'm extremely tired and i'm in all of this because i'm not reall thinking straight to begin with. Actually the link our referring too was only meant to be a link to a site pertaining to it but I didn't mean for the other site to not be shown. Kevin Rutherford
3984:. , "KC-X" is the name of the program, and per discussions on the talk page, we intended to keep the article there even after the winner was announced (and protested by EADS) and named the "KC-45". Today, the KC-30 has been announced the winner, and I expect EADS to protest the KC-767AT coming in second in the next few days ;) Could you please move
744:. Anyway, differently from other editor's behaviour, I am keeping miles away from ns0 on this topic and I am only trying to understand how a wrong article name could be changed. It is quite obvious for me that part of the ambiuguos definition history will be part of the article, but the article's name is unfortunately only one.
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compromise, or bow out gracefully. Otherwise, someone else will help you both to bow out. As I was trying to say, and you've missed or ignored my point, this is the type of behavior that got
Wikzilla blocked, and you're headed that way if you don't figure out how to live with an imperfect article. I don't really care if you
4743:. All the discussion so far has gone occured only in edit summaries, and the key "combatants" are both registered users. One has reeverted about 5 times, and the other at least 3 in just over 24 hours. I'm about ready to submit it to the "Lamest revert wars" list! Do what you think is best in this case. Thanks again. -
972:, so he/she may take me up on the offer. Another long-time contributor caught my request to Archtransit, and he/she also appears to be interested. If one of them does the uploading, you might still want to look through the pictures after you're done with that large project to see any were missed. Thanks for responding!
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making the right ones, even if you don't like them. In the end, you'll become a better editor for it, and hopefully
Knowledge will become a better place because of it too. The choice is yours to make. And don't worry about HDP's choices - if you stop, and he doesn't, he'll have to live with that choice too. -
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Possibly I could make some templates - if only I could decide if all obscure prototypes (or even worse, projects), that haven't own articles, should be listed in designations' order :-) ..However, since these templates can be changed, I think I'll just omit most obscure ones, until somebody describes
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You where right the first time. The only socks I have are on my feet. Take a look at the IPs from the first accusation
Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/Wikzilla. Do a who is on the IPs and you will see that they came from Verizon and they had two unique 16 bit subnets that give you a possibility
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Could you recommend someone else (or several people) at WP:AIRCRAFT since you appear to be busy? I'd rather not post this request there since I'd prefer the contact to be someone who has been around a while. Someone who understands image policy and what images are desirable to
Knowledge. I'll contact
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Acknowledged Sir :-). First of all let me thank you for your brief and effective synthesis of the point. Yes. I agree 100 % with you : Verifiability is the real issue. As I care of
Knowledge I agree English sources must raise in the preferred source rankings and, as I wrote today to Red sunset, I am
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Valid point - gives us something to do when your missing aircraft list is finished! - seriously I will make an effort to revisit some of the articles and add conversions etc with the new sources your detailed. I agree if nobody comes along after a couple of weeks they will probably never be done. It
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The international project on joint development, production and sales of twin-turbofan
Tactical Transport Aircraft envisions solidary cooperation of the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (India), the IRKUT Corporation and the Ilyushin Aviation Complex (Russia), with their design teams to be merged into a
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R, can you check on this page and the campaign by various anons (the latest: 76.212.146.249) to insinuate a POV statement that the number "666" originated with this film. The various IPs are basically sock/meat puppets that have engaged in this effort. Bots and others including myself have reverted
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make my
Knowledge experience miserable (they only succeed if I let them). Even though what they were doing originally was pure vandalism, and needed to be stopped, I could have gone about it another way, and saved myself some grief in the process. My point now is that you have choices - please start
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Wikzilla or not - I'm comparing your behavior, and it's very similar to how
Wikzilla first acted here, on the same issues! As I also said, you have tried to be a productive editor, and that's a good thing. But this type of edit warring is not going to accomplish anything. Isn't 3 months long enough?
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a pioneering aircraft in the sense that it was the very first practical all-metal aircraft ever built in aviation history, and represents the first substantial change in the general materials used to construct an aircraft with after the Wrights in 1903, I felt that it should have an English language
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The Air International annual book, in my aviation library, that covered "The Junkers D I Story" (partially authored by the very well-educated, and now very recently deceased, Peter M Grosz) way back in the early-to-mid 1980s covered the Junkers J 1 "Blechesel" story quite well enough for a Knowledge
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to get the template done by then. After that, I'll start work on the individual pages, either today or tomorrow my time (US EST/East Coast/ -5 GMT). I've been hampered by the fact that so many of the sequences on articles were never finished (I did a bunch of them myself), and so have larege gaps in
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I've been working with a flickr contributor who has agreed to license his very complete collection of drag racing photographs using Creative Commons ShareAlike Attribution so that Knowledge can use them. I have just been marking those particular images that are helpful to Knowledge. He then uploaded
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Now it is my turn to answer to your question: where did the use of "SAI." as a prefix originate ? If, but only if, you follow me in my âdual nameâ definition before, you could do a further step: Step2: not all Italian planes adopted a company-prefix-name structure. This is most true, for example, in
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No original research ! Never ! My attempt was to simplify the issue in a yes/no style and in a step by step path, as a method to simplfy the issue (I stated it) What I wanted to highlight was there is no world wide sources consensus (point 1) and I suggested to take a position on the name (point 2).
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of experience with confrontational editing, enough to know not much is ever accomplished by standing your ground on every point and being inflexible. Contributing to Knowledge is all about compromise, and often the solution is imperfect. It's means eating some humble pise sometimes - but it's a lot
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I see that you have contributed many Blériot aircraft articles and have also expanded the recently-created Louis Blériot template. I wonder would it be more appropriate for the current template to renamed "Blériot Aéronautique aircraft", since this was the name of the manufacturing company. What do
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No problem. Relevant to SIAI question the answer is yes. I used to work in Vergiate plant which was SIAI Marchetti premises till late â70s. There were old employees, now transferred to Agusta, who still call themselves âthe SIAI menâ using the short form. Relevant to your second question, I passed
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Aerfer Ariete, Aerfer Sagittario, Aerfer Leone, AUT 18, Saiman 202, Ambrosini Sagittario and others. Step3: Italians usually contract names of two companiesâ planes by calling them using only the first of the two. So it is widely diffused: SIAI SF-206 (actual name SIAI-Marchetti SF-260) or Alfa 75
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All those articles had unopened talkpages and were unassessed which I understood as the 'discovery' point. I also assumed/understood that if the talk page was not opened then the article was not included in the project count. I can carry on opening the talk pages and assessing and not post them as
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Sorry for the mistakes I've been making. I'm new to Knowledge. However, I would like to point out that the picture was taken by me (I made up the ULPower website), and it would be nice to have it on the ULPower UL260i page (as also other engine manufacturers have on their page). Eventually it then
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As the Junkers D I IS my favorite World War I aircraft, and will be made in miniature (in quarter scale size) for Radio Control flying someday, from my own CAD drawn plan set, I'd also plan on doing a page on it as well...but before the D I page gets done, I'd thought it was best to first create a
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Next step. Well I will check on English language web sites (I have no English book talking about Ambrosini) and I will present a report on what it results relevant to companyâs name. We will evaluate results and will accept verdict, but please, off the records, believe me, SAI Ambrosini is another
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and added it in to the appropriate articles. Just two questions, I added the C-143 and C144 at the end although they are modern aircraft as they appear to be in the sequence. Welcome to change if you dont think it is not right. I added the template in just before the cats outside of the aircontent
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Bill your points are well taken and in retrospect I guess I can understand how someone could interpret my behavior as being nonconstructive. Thanks for pointing it out to me. Other than suggesting the article for deletion I am done with it. The entry is badly written, full of opinion and at times
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Ahh, so much to learn about this wonderful place. Thanks, I'll keep the policy in mind from now on. Incidentally, I removed a refeerence to the Convair 660 that was there. There are plenty of hits on Google about it, but none actually describing what it is, other than a few stating it has Allison
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I intended to get this done in short order, but it's taken longer than I had planned. I'd gotten over half of of it done today, but then lost it when my newly-activated (but now de-activated!) pop-ups feature decided to change pages. I'll be up at least 5 hours from post time of this comment, and
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Here there are some sources easily available and verifiable. Please give a look on following photos. You will compare writings on Ambrosini's vertical stabilizer with those written close to other three planes' horizontal stabilizers, where it was official name and military registration markingsis
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I see that you have begun to remove the sequences from aircraft articles. Has there been some change in policy regarding this? I ask because I have gone to some effort in the past to find the correct articles to link to; and if they are all going to be removed I will stop going to the trouble in
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Ok, forget all I wrote which is useless in Knowledge and letâs continue. I abandon the idea of changing the articles name. Do you think there is room for these infos somewhere ? Maybe in the article start could be added a foot note recall like âThe Ambrosini SAI.207 (1) ⊠according some Italian
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fact: company's name is SAI Ambrosini not Ambrosini SAI from rank 1 and 2 sources. SAI is part of the company name and must be written before Ambrosini. Data from lower level reliability source (on this topic) are irrelevant. This sounds strange, but we are scholars and we have no fear to make a
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Thanks for your input. I hadn't found anything good enough to use as a ref in my search. I was more concerned about the attack than the refs. I usually ignore this sort of thing, but I thought this one was over the top with his "no one elected you sherrif, move along". I understood that to mean
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Noticed you are creating templates for the Australia Defence Force, not sure they are appropriate as they are not really designations just serial prefixes. Nobody calls the Hercules The Lockheed A97 Hercules not even the Australians. A lot of air forces use some kind serial prefix based on type
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OK I understand your reasoning not a major problem at the moment but one that will have to be sorted at some time. I still think that a smaller template like aerospec would be more complete as it contains facts more likely to come by. I will just keep going to raise the 20% count with more new
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up but several users (mostly anon. IPs) keep reverting. The problem is that most links they are using either do not exist or state something entirely different than what is being written. Further I believe that the user who is causing the most problems is resorting to sock puppetry. Please see
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enough to abide by the naming conventions, and prefer to use company designation/names, so I gave up fighting that battle! Nevertheless, I'm impressed you're turning them out so fast! I won't object if anyone wishes to help out on these, but I'm not trying to avoid hard work either! Should be
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No, I mean by "incessant" the fact that you, HDP, and various IPs belonging to whoever have been bickering about this subject since November! And the argumant goes back to August with Wikzilla. Don't you think this has gone on long enough? It's time you agree to disagree, and either accept a
2483:"Category:Foo" will be a big help. (I don't specialize that much.) And "cut & paste" categorization is what's gotten me in trouble... I'm taking them where I find them, thinking, "Hmm, that'd be apt." EZr if I can paste from the same mfr page, yeah, but then, watch out for "twin engine"
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Dont have a big problem as long as it is clear they are serial prefixes and not designations, perhaps we should consider some of the other prefix-type related sequences in time. I presume there is no limit to the number of template footers!! Perhaps we should ask at project for opinions.
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I don't know what exactly you can do to help with this problem, but from what I have seen, you are a very fair Admin. User:217.36.220.46 is repeatedly vandalizing the article: Glock. If I could get your (or another good admin that you know) assistance, it would be greatly appreciated.
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As for the "incessant edit-warring and talk page bantering". I asked an administrator for help days ago. Nothing happened. As for bantering, if you mean edit summary comments I would say to you that it is something HDP, Freepsbane and others as well as yourself BILLCJ take liberal part
2491:, the wrong-year template. (The bird flew '23, from what my source said, but the template list starts in '24...) I do like the "single", "twin", "prop"/"jet", myself; not really sure how much it helps, 'cause that's a bit above my pay grade. Ah, well. I rely on the kindness of admins.
574:(Air Force Museum catalog planes) there is a S.A.I. Ambrosini Super S.7 where S stands for Stefanutti the plane designer. This leave in place the (manufacturer-prefix-number) standard. The S.A.I. Ambrosini 207 had no "Re - Me - Bf - G" prefix in its official name. What we can do ? --
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usual (I've seen "quick pass" & "in-depth" coverage there); I see WP main articles as "quick passes" & linked articles as "in depth". We disagree about the Whirlwind page; I hold that as the standard, 'cause it has whatever somebody really interested would want to know. For
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that I created has been proposed for deletion. This article is by far not perfect as there a lot of information missing. However, I do not see any reason why it should not remain in wikipedia. May I simply delete the deletion-tag? I will be very pleased if you help me keeping the
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Thanks for the explanation I will have to check a bit deeper on these. I understand that if they are variants of 190 like 192, 193 then we should not list them but if they are part of the three-digit sequence they are OK. Your help and guidance appreciated. Are you happy with the
916:). I need to start a dialog with him first. He has been very good to work with and is extremely happy that Knowledge finds these images useful and good enough for a large well-known project. Are you interested in being that person to work with him to accomplish these uploads?
2404:, which gives "T.E". as referring to "Tatin Experimental" (monoplane with pusher propeller at tail). Unfortunately it doesn't mention "C.E.", but from what I have read "Curtiss Experimental" seems feasible, even though the C.E.1 had a Linton Hope hull. Hope the T.E. helps! --
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it to it.wiki aviation project, as my source describes only the SAI S.7 using a company-prefix-number style where SAI is the company, S is the prefix for Stefanutti, the chief designer and 7 is the model. The page declares in its data sheet: manufacturer - SAI Ambrosini .--
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deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Knowledge's policies and guidelines.
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I'm not fed up really. It's more a matter of...I tend to do that stuff on my own because others won't. :) So when people step forward and say this should be done this and this way, I tend to leave it to those people to hammer it out. I appreciate the gesture though.
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This has gone on for far too long. Time for another block on this person, who was previously blocked as 200.95.202.12 for exactly what s/he is doing now. S/he knows that what s/he is doing is wrong, has been warned numerous times, yet persists in making these edits.
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Hi. I've had a crisis on writing on naval ships on the Polish wiki (which was my main Wiki-activity) ...so I'll probably add some obscure aircraft here. I have one question: why did anybody remove "sequence" from aircontent template?? It makes navigation difficult!
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them. I've been planning to write on Romanian civil planes, but the info is surprisigly scarse (one book from the 70s, that don't even give such basic thing, as production figures!), and almost nothing in the web. On the other hand maybe it's better to have stubs?
3370:" link (it is located at the very top of any Knowledge page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on
3083:" link (it is located at the very top of any Knowledge page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on
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it still has an embedded airliners.net copyright statement which I didnt think was allowed. The Image page gives permission from the author to use on wikipedia. I undertand that it has to be released under GFDL or otherwise to be used on wikipedia not just a
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page, were the sky is so light. Also, is there anything that can be done about these non-WP:AIR editors playing around with the infoboxes that we use? The removal of the border was made by one of these drive-by editors. Thanks for whatever you can do. -
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raises another ish: the template doesn't allow mention of where the power figures are generated, & every (reputable) source will mention it, just like you'd expect for an automotive review article. (No need to answer, just thought I'd bring it up.)
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STOL designs ;-) In some cases I wrote for example: "stall speed <57" to indicate, that this is a minimal speed that aircraft can fly, but I'm afraid it don't look good. On the other hand: what do you think about a category "Three-engine aircraft"?
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Could you explain me, if stall speed is lowest speed, at which a plane can fly, or a speed, at which an aircraft just fells down? In most sources I see "minimal speed", what suggests, that it still can fly, and I'm not sure, if it is "stall speed".
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a standard entry on every page (right down to the height of the center of the prop hub!). Given the ability to link out from the aircraft to engine spex, it can easily go there. Which leaves me thinking the engine spex pages are pretty bare...
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is what you want? (Corrected to "aviation lists".) I didn't realize this sometimes uses templates within templatesâthat's a case I haven't fully tested. Are you *sure* there isn't anything else to do on these before it runs through ~3000 edits?
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detail (materials used, tolerances), use XT links. About "what WP's not", we disagree again; some of the stub articles I've seen fall in the "random junk" cat, while the Whirlwind page has comprehensive coverage. I guess it's about what you
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I've been seeing {{aircraft specifications}}) in use, & I notice it doesn't allow for fuel capacity. I'd suggest it's a good idea, & I posted to the Aviation project about same. Any comment or support there would be appreciated.
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No, I don't find them specially useful. The only ones, that would make some sense to me, would be 3-engine, 4-engine and 5-or-more-engine (how to call it?..), because they are relatively rare. Single and twin engine make no sense at all.
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seems to have the Title field and image caption field combined, and outputs to both. I tried my hand at repairing it, but something just copying the image/caption section from Infobox Aircraft can't fix!. Could you take a look? Thanks. -
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OK I will have another go at at the Dassault template when I have time - its late in this part of the world now!! It does lead to another problem some of the contents in the Dassault bizjet articles are in serious need of a seeing to!!.
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No expertise on my part, I'm afraid, but the "T.E." had stuck in my mind and I just happened to see it when looking for something else altogether. Unfortunately it's hard to search on T.E., B.E. etc and come up with sensible results!
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On (more/less) sober second thought, I can see putting it in the a/c article's a bit overkill for most (& if you're inclined to delete, no beefs here), but I'm 1 who loves all the detail I can get. Have you seen the drawings with
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I checked on Google too and I do agree there are several different definitions. I will try to simplify the topic. Let's forget for a moment the specific airplane example e let's focus on the company name, we will come back to planes
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better than crap pie! - believe me, I've had plenty of the crap pie, and the humble pie is better in the long run. Practicing that might have saved me alot of trouble from the vandal group who think their life's mission is to
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If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes.
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If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes
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Site did already mension to feel free to use this image on websites or press articles when talking about the engine. I have now also added "free of copyright". I hope the image can now permanently stay on wikipedia! Regards,
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If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes
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of 2 to the 16th (over 65,000) hosts for each subnet. I admitted in the past and it was confirmed that those IPs where me as well. It was when I first started editing and did not know about how wiki caches pages. As for
1797:. It involves other issues. The page may have been protected, or there might have been an edit conflict, or some other template on the page may be messed up making it difficult to parse for aircontent. Things like that.
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template, noticed as I was going past that a few of the company (like Boeing) type templates have been added to the aircontent under see also. We/Us/Them/Somebody might need to make sure they are all in the same place!
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I'll give it another look. I'm leery about changing out a working template, tho, & my sources at hand might not support articles on those other red links. I'll see. If it's working for somebody, more power to 'em.
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contradictory. Anyone who even remotely understands the subject will read it and just pass it off as another poorly written, factually incorrect entry written by a bunch of fan boys. I at least tried to fix it.--
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Wierd formatting? You mean the "|" being at the end of the line instead of the beginning, or something else? I actually see the end-of-line "|" slash in a lot of templates, but I'm not sure what else you mean. -
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with the comment 'split sequence-overdid it there' which I took as something I had done. I could not see the changes referred to and then realised it was the user (Karl Dickman?) commenting to himself. Cheers
4695:. I'd really like to see this reinstated, but the editor made other changes in the same eidt which I am reluctant to revert. The border is helpful with images such as the one that I added on the (restored)
532:). What we can do ? What is the best way to suggest a global renaming action ? Who should be informed, in order to verify consensus on the topic, prior to perform any action? Thank you for your support. --
3344:, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found
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You can verify no prefix was used for Ambrosini. Ambrosini 207 "slick" name is both correct and different from other planes ones even if they have their "m.c. G. RE" prefix. What do you think about ? --
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reply. Do you now what the procedure is to question embedded copyright notices and/or only on wikipedia permission or point me in the right direction as the image help pages are a bit confusing. Thanks
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Back to the topic. Good. fact 1: we agree company's name is SAI Ambrosini. Please be patient some words more. Still forget for a while the prefix issue (which, on the contrary, it is irrelevant for me).
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Your points are correct at a glance, but looking deeper we would discover that SAI means SocietĂ Aeronautica Italiana (Italian Aeronautics Society - or better "company") which is part of the brand like
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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "
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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "
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has now degenerated into an edit war seemingly fought by IPs as well as others. Now is the time to go into semi-protect. Check the edit history and the talk page for confirmation of the problems. FWIW
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and seem to be to be attempts to bully. Please see what you think and what might be the appropriate response, beyond what I have said on the talk page. Please let me know if I am off-base here. -
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No worries, what can I do to help out? It would make a nice change from reverting a certain drongo's edits that seems to have taken up much of my time around here in the last eight weeks or so.
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list - now realise that it was probably in error as I cant find any reference to On Mark Musketeer can you just check the JAE to see if it was really the Marketeer or a different type, Thanks
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Thanks for the catch. I'd probably have noticed it eventually (in about a month...)Â :( And it's pretty cool to be able to pull 1 source off my shelf & fill a red link! I love this place!
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article and has now gone on to correct other peoples entries in the
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very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the
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Thanks for the clarity on this I was sure we did align everything.
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Fine. I will revert them. I'll let you make sense of that mess. --
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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the
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Hi, Not sure if it is widespread but I saw the recent edits to
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SAI Ambrosini 207 or following other sources Ambrosini SAI 207
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projects, which both appear to be inactive be merged into the
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future, and will help to remove them when I come across them.
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but now it has led to personal attacks on my talk page. FWIW
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Thanks. Well, half of the aircraft, that I'm writing about,
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Category:United States military transport aircraft 1950-1959
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explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for
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Regarding the Azaraksh, were I said "at least 3 built": In
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it is difficult to tell with these complicated templates.
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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Aircraft#Template:USAF fighters
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http://www.passignanosultrasimeno.org/italiano/storia.html
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Hoping to hear back from you at my own user talk page...
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It would be great if you could respond on my talk page (
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the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page
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You swapped them some time ago- so consider yourself.--
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hard to come by, if what I've seen in some editions of
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There is no world wide "consensus" on the company name.
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:KawanishiH8K.jpg
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Aeronautica Militare Museo Storico Catalogo Velivoli
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3181:. If you have any questions please ask them at the
3134:. If you have any questions please ask them at the
3087:. If you have any questions please ask them at the
4111:WT:GTL#Order of 'See_Also', References (using bot)
3156:Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Junkers.png
442:), but there's no code in the template for that.
4876:One to add to your useful bits and pieces list?
3913:No problem with merger into Piel Emeraude. Rgds
3480:. If you believe the image to be acceptable for
3415:. If you believe the image to be acceptable for
2377:Thanks for updating the template - C.E could be
2117:, cut & paste as needed. =p Thanks anyhow!
1855:Image copyright problem with Image:Yeliseyev.jpg
4691:RL, I think the Lead pic border was removed in
4602:RL, sending email within 10 minutes. Thanks. -
4113:, since WP:AIR and WP:AVIATION were mentioned.
3592:Can you help me please with an image question,
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4240:section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion
3213:section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion
2819:Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/Wikzilla
2753:section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion
2113:It won't hurt. =D I've got it beat, tho: goto
1357:List of World War I flying aces by nationality
1123:Request for help - a new user has just moved
171:section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion
3715:Thanks, I missed it when I did the redirect.
2749:Template:Experimental aircraft by nationality
2742:Template:Experimental aircraft by nationality
2322:. A couple of weeks ago, I proposed that the
1787:templates which contain other templates like
4505:Sekani article, I did some "tweaking." FWIW
4077:Thanks - although he/she had edited again!!
2345:on the Human Spaceflight project's talk page
4152:Knowledge:WikiProject Aircraft/page content
2315:Hi, I noticed that you are a member of the
2194:the measurements on them? I'd love to make
4376:Hello Rlandmann, can you move the article
3873:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Tsybin RSR
2221:. Or maybe a good drawing that'll let you
406:Couple more quirks. There's a redirect at
181:subjects and should provide references to
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4802:Ask for help with respect to Giles G-202
4786:. Write me if you guess who it is. FWIW
4054:who has revised a lot of wording in the
4028:RL, we might want to keep an eye out on
3326:Thanks for uploading or contributing to
3058:Thanks for uploading or contributing to
1777:Right, this list has nothing to do with
749:Question: do you think all these planes
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2836:RL, Downtrip has shown himself to be a
2505:Re your message about Convair redirects
1915:New English language Junkers J1 article
1421:Highly Maneuverable Aircraft Technology
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4382:Irkut/HAL Multirole Transport Aircraft
3361:Knowledge:Fair use rationale guideline
3172:Knowledge:Fair use rationale guideline
3125:Knowledge:Fair use rationale guideline
4735:RL, there's a revert war going on at
4386:Irkut/HAL Tactical Transport Aircraft
3800:, and than you've got the old Saeqeh
1924:http://en.wikipedia.org/Bristol_Scout
1900:. Thanks again for your cooperation.
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4651:essentially "get off my article". -
4334:Category:British airliners 1940-1949
4204:Template:KuKLFT D-class designations
2691:but before I create a redirect from
2565:, two of the entries use lower case
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4782:I won't give it away but check out
4168:format being replaced by the older
3665:RL, someone added centering to the
3504:or one of the other tags listed at
3439:or one of the other tags listed at
2781:I keep trying to clean the article
1941:http://de.wikipedia.org/Junkers_J_1
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4378:Irkut Multirole Transport Aircraft
4164:. Have had a least one example of
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3790:Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force
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4996:Category:Multiple engine aircraft
4889:Spreadsheet arrived OK - thanks.
2777:I could use your help with a user
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3494:Knowledge:Use rationale examples
3492:. Some examples can be found at
3476:, because it does not provide a
3429:Knowledge:Use rationale examples
3427:. Some examples can be found at
3411:, because it does not provide a
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1166:RL, do you have time to look at
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1291:De Havilland Canada DHC-3 Otter
968:Sure it can wait. I just asked
899:Probable aircraft images source
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3183:media copyright questions page
3136:media copyright questions page
3089:Media copyright questions page
3037:", but I can live with that:)
1898:media copyright questions page
350:My stalker(s) is at it again,
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4482:As for the F-11 Husky, check
4109:You might want to know about
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2783:Fourth_generation_jet_fighter
2659:I have left a message on the
2385:but cant find any proof yet.
2225:, based on the other numbers.
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5076:Recently discovered articles
3852:AfD nomination of Tsybin RSR
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2228:On engine spex, my ideal is
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327:Canadian Aircraft since 1909
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2012:Thanks for helping me with
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751:Category:Ambrosini aircraft
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587:bad move the Bf example LOL
584:21:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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518:Category:Ambrosini aircraft
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3968:RL, in the last few days,
3490:the image description page
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3353:the image description page
3168:Knowledge:Non-free content
3121:Knowledge:Non-free content
3070:the image description page
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1617:User:Born2flie/Bell ARH-70
167:Curtiss-Robertson Kingbird
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4234:A tag has been placed on
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4198:10:03, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
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4154:still tells users to use
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4060:Lockheed L-1011 talk page
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3839:The Honorable Kermanshahi
3825:The Honorable Kermanshahi
3814:), a Simorgh trainer and
3741:Talk:De Havilland Vampire
3667:Template:Infobox Aircraft
3661:Template:Infobox Aircraft
3641:French invasion of Russia
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3207:A tag has been placed on
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2063:entire & pasted into
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373:Just reminding you about
165:A tag has been placed on
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1867:Thank you for uploading
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665:The reliabilty rank is:
496:Thanks all understood.
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4528:RL, could you look at
4443:RL, could you look at
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3867:, has been listed for
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3566:Mr. Deeds Goes to Town
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3160:Thanks for uploading
3113:Thanks for uploading
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1581:Template:Aircraft-imp
1303:Handley Page Hastings
693:Non Italian web sites
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3964:Non-consensual moves
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3269:de:wiki/user/Galak76
2379:Curtiss Experimental
1659:User:Colputt/Sandbox
1499:Columbia Helicopters
1032:Template:CF aircraft
476:I have just created
307:Curtiss-Reid Rambler
301:Canadian eyes needed
284:User talk:Plane nerd
4394:virtual enterprise.
4227:Speedy deletion of
3688:When I created the
3245:Article name swap:
3209:Template:Gunstonman
3202:Template:Gunstonman
3200:Speedy deletion of
3061:Image:He 176 V2.jpg
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2740:Speedy deletion of
2721:Nice work with the
2683:Fokker F.XIV / F.14
2569:all the others use
2115:Curtiss XP-31 Swift
2061:Curtiss XP-31 Swift
1869:Image:Yeliseyev.jpg
1665:A-10 Thunderbolt II
1285:Bristol F.2 Fighter
151:Speedy deletion of
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