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mind that I have no interest in this becoming a territorial pissing issue. I'm also curious as to why it bothers you that a fellow Wikipedian would like a page for Yehoshua that treats the information surrounding his life as separate from later-Catholic add-ons. I really have no interest in the article I intend to finish today being constantly deleted by an over-zealous editor with a problem. If your problem is what I name the article, please, sugest another name. If your problem is that I am creating it in the first place, I think you are the one with the POV issue. At any rate, allow me to finish the article, and then open up the discussion to all community members. As it stands now, I feel you are making a decision which you have not been granted the power to make.
1313:. Interestingly enough, when the case was accepted, that arbitrator notified all the people who I was in dispute with and did nit notify anyone who supports my views. What should I do? (I am asking you, because you are known as the kind and reasonable arbitrator by almost everyone). I don't want to end up being banned for something as trivial as implying that an arbitrator has double standards (it may not be wrong either, a casual glance at that arbitrators talk page would reveal that his "way of doing things" has been questioned before). Please reply (even if it is to tell me to leave you alone). 4069:ā€œThe extensive use of cutouts, so long as they are trusted and reliable persons, can become a long chain of individuals. This performs another purpose, similiar to the extensive use of "front organizations"; by their sheer number, it becomes a shell game with counterintelligence investigators, who have finite and limited resources. When suspicion arises, the large number of persons and organizations connected to the conspiracy can devour endless hours and cost, which has the effect of slowing down the process of exposing an espionage organization.ā€ 825:
doing so... but, I also think that what you have said justifies a slightly different name for the article in question. If as I believe you said, the article presents "arguments" (which I distinguish from being an article about the object in question) then shouldn't the title be something like "Apartheid wall" controversy? Or "Apartheid wall" debate? Or "Apartheid Wall" argument? Anything but just Apartheid Wall. If you say no, I will defer to your judgment and experience.
5045:. Since then the article has been improving. I find it odd that you as an editor, as an admin have allowed this article to be the way it was as that time. Surly you have seen it. Are you really looking to improve wikipedia to make it comprehansive NON POV. If so, even if you don't "like" me you should take part in the effort of improving such articles. So far you are not helping. You allowed a text that is clearly Marxist propeganda to be on this article. 4941:, and partially the opposite. (Actually, both user:John_McW and user:69.138.215.194 have been gone from WP for long periods, but if one appear here, then the other seem to appear just afterwards.) Now, if, as you say, 69.138.215.194 is a sockpuppet of Marsden, and Marsden "is simply Wikistalking me, which, as he has stated clearly, is his whole purpose for editing Knowledge." (according to you), the why on earth is this sockpuppet actually wikistalking 851:
move forward in edit wars. Once it exists, you have the right name and right placeholder for the info that was being reverted on a borderline page. Obviously no one can argue that Religion in Israel shouldn't exist as a page and (to be fair to FW) it's also hard to argue that the info he wanted in "Historical Persecution by Jews:" shouldn't be included in "Religion in..." (if it can be verified). In short, a fair compromise and a good page createdĀ :).
3646: 974:(in his book on the IRA) re his clear pro-nationalist (if not pro-republican) biases, and, in the case of de Valera, simply facts that are readily available and which expand on the soft-soaping of his more horrific behavior (i.e. denying refugees entry in Eire during WWII, thus causing thousands, perhaps many thousands, of lives to be lost which was eventually reported by Andy Pollak many decades later in the Irish Times some years ago). 4796:
stated clearly, is his whole purpose for editing Knowledge." Is Marsden/69.138.215.194 wikistalking you? I have taken a closer look at the edits of 69.138.215.194 (nb: I have only included the article-pages, not the talk-pages. Also I have not included the very first 4 edits, in August, (all to British Mandate of Palestine) they seem "genuine" pos. contribution). The rest is as follows (roughly! I might have missed some!):
2720: 2636: 2564: 2502: 2471: 2847:. He showed up around September or so and made a real vandalistic pest of himself. He's calmed down quite a bit but is still revert warring and there have been a steady stream of new accounts show up interested in Dominion of Melchizedek with their first edits. Johnski, of course, claims that they are all separate people and that it shouldn't be unusual at all that there are so many people interested. 3689: 565:
the page. I'm just curious if you've reviewed the history of the changes i've made? The page as it currently stands omits virtually the entire substance of all controversy surrounding the JDL, and any attempt that i've made to introduce information that provokes consideration of the JDL as a terrorist organization has been summarily removed.
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any specific web sources mentioning it. All I have is my personal experience of being recieving their emails unsolicited. The emails themselves contain no unsubscribe information and a search on the website brings up no hits for "unsubscribe." I've replied to their emails and requestetd to be unsubscribed but have gotten no response.
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fact as well. I agree that "Yehoshua ben Yosef" has the potential for conflict, but what should we call it? I do not want to have to sift through information on the Christian Jesus if I am looking into the topic of Yehoshua the Ebionite. Do you not understand what I am getting at? The topic deserves its own page.
692:"The point under discussion is, plain and simple, whether we use the common names for things as titles, or whether we should use an NPOV title." - you seem to be operating under the impression that, in teh case of the Yom Kippur War article, these things are mutually exclusive. You are, of course, wrong. 1641:. I could agree to changing the names to Jews in ___ but not to the "Algerian Jews"-style names you were moving things to (for the reasons discussed on my move comments). Anyway, it would have been nice to keep me in the loop on these moves, given that I think I started about 20 of these articles. -- 5000:
The thing with an RfC is it provides a good, central place for documentation. I'm not so interested in it as part of a formal dispute resolution process, more as a way of (1) shaming those who actually have shame and (2) for the shameless, providing clear, permanent documentation of their behavior so
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I'm afraid that I don't have time right now for a lenghty investigation. Please query at ANI. In particular, I don't see the link between this IP and Marsden, nor am I fully familiar with Marsden's past as his talkpage isn't that helpful. However, I must say that I have contempt for people who revert
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i dont know if you remember me, but I've put comments on your page before. can you please help me with an editor named yuber? everything i do he just reverts, and he makes up new stories every time as to why. I have brought good information with links, but he pretends that i have not and deletes the
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I tried e-mailing you, but it bounced back. In brief, "Hasidic Jews" are a subset of "Haredi Jews", and "Haredi Jews" are a subset of "Orthodox Jews". "Ultra-Orthodox" is just another term for "Haredi", but many people consider it pejorative - essentially haredi Jews call themselves haredi, and those
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Chronic offenders may be subject to rulings by the Arbitration Committee. This can also apply to those that try to "game" the rule on a regular basis, such as by making fourth reversions just outside of the 24-hour time period, or by making complex reverts which attempt to disguise the restoration of
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A user-created encyclopedia has dogmatic naming conventions regarding the use of the name "Jesus"? Where are these conventions written? I would like to read them. To be fair, I think information on a non-Christian perspective requires its own page that refers to him by his historical name, because
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This is a work in progress, so don't delete it on me halfway through making it. In defense, I believe there should be a page for "Historical Jesus" that does not use the term Jesus. Furthermore, I believe any attempt to put all topics concerning Yehoshua under the umbrella "Jesus" is blatantly POV.
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I'm not too happy about the faulty mechanics Jordain used to re-nominate this article. He did not create a new discussion. As a result, it appears to be a closed discussion, with a template saying not to edit it. I think this was a simple mistake on his partā€”I've struggled myself trying to figure out
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Either the clearly biased sections are removed or we will have to go into issues that will turn this article into another argument about Zionism. For example: The "routes of the comunity" are clearly not in 1948. There is ample evidence that the country was virtually empty in the 1800s and that many
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and many others defacing them and making them unreadable on the web. He is going to DESTROY the normal usage of Knowledge's Hebrew transliterations to satisfy his own needs without there being any consensus. Common usages are being thrown out in favor of obscure and pedantic academic usages familiar
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Hi Jayjg, I see you also questioned "non-Judaizing Christians of Hebrew stock". I removed that whole section, but I'm a new user so I don't know whether that was the right thing to do. Please put it back if it wasn't. That whole article could use a clean up, and I read somewhere that there's a clean
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The Qumran scrolls do not mention Jesus, the supposed "Q" document was supposedly written in Greek, by "Tesofta Shebota" I assume you mean "Tosefta Shabbat", which was written in the second century and not transcribed until the 6th century, the "unaltered writings of Josephus" were written in Greek,
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Dear Jayjg, Thanks for answering me. I had already read the parts you meant; however, I still believe that there is not enough space for the other opinions. I am not talking about original research, but rather about citing more articles that consider "Anti-Semitism" as discrimination against Semitic
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I confess I didn't understand your comment in your support vote either. You seemed to be saying that because some of the opposers were "bigoted nutters" (to borrow Baba's phrase) you felt obligated to support. Yet you said you are concerned about AE's POV. Is it right to make someone whose POV is so
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Thanks for your comments regarding my edit to the NGO monitor. I agree that it's important to be accountable when making these sorts of claims. Specifically, you asked for a source for my claim that the NGO monitor sends out unsolicited email. I did a fair amount of google searches and couldn't find
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This has nothing to do with NPOV (which is usually subjective), it has to do with dealing with the brutal honesty that important issues require even at the cost of offending the Irish Catholic censors, apologeticists, and relentless propagandists who have kept the horrific brutalities perpetrated by
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In response to your comment on the issue I raised about renaming the "Apartheid Wall" article: I understand what you are saying and I appreciate the role you have played in trying to make sure that these types of articles steer a reasonable and moderate course -- and the grief you have received for
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Yes, real problem people often use the RfC as a place to rant on. But you know what? When they do that, they generally just help hang themselves by displaying the same bad behavior that got them in trouble in the first place (insults, accusations without links to edits/content, etc.) The purpose of
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is that the paragraph "Luther and the Jews" should remain as is? Along with that what other changes do you feel should be made to it as it stands now? I have removed the sentences that asserted that Luther and Antisemitism was a controversial issue. I agree with you that it is not, at least outside
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I dunno, I thought we reached some sort of consensus around two sets of articles "___ian Jews" and "History of the Jews in ____"/"Jews in ____." So I have sort of just kept chugging on my merry way since, as it did not seem to be too passionate a subject. Are you okay with that split? Do we want
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article. As an administrator, you have to see to it that we follow in the principles of Knowledge. We have placed the paragraph you put into the Luther article on the "talk page" for discussion. Perhaps it might be just as well to create a new article on Luther and Anti-Semitism where we can really
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what the Qumran community thought of Paul and his interpretations. I believe the issue deserves another article with no Christian bias. This is a separate article, and I have no intention of pointing the (Christian) Jesus to my page, so please do not point my page to the Christian Jesus. Keep in
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Knowledge has existing naming conventions which mandate the use of the name "Jesus", and it strongly disapproves of POV-forks (that is, a new version of an article written from a different point of view). It also has an article on the Historicity of Jesus. Please bring your concerns about the Jesus
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with the quite useful and specific edit summary "restore important fact and precedent". My previous edits fixed grammatical problems with passive voice and removed subjective policy requirements. There are no "facts" that were deleted with my edit, only your personal POV on the matter. And there is
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1) He spews religious and racial hatred. 2) He cannot write English properly. 3) His contributions are limited to neighborhoods in or around Dublin, and to the GAA - an ultra-sectarian, ultra-nationalist, pro-IRA "Irish sports" association that bans "foreign games" (rugby, soccer, etc) from being
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Oh yes, it was deficient. I thought it might start out so when I suggested it and saw it was so when I moved it (and really didn't have the on-spot to knowledge to make it not so!). But the very creation of an article, even with one sentence and 1000 words begging to be added, can be a great way to
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I'm really not sure what to say here, or even *if* i should post here; i have been attempting to bring the JDL entry more into line with reality -- by referencing FBI and State Department opinions, introducing factual reviews of past incidents, and that sort of thing -- but you seem to have frozen
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I'd like to make sure that potentially interested people are aware that the discussion is open, as I'd like to see a high level of participation. But for the life of me I can't figure out the technical means for doing this. I don't seem to see where the template indicating that it is closed exists.
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Jay, just a note to say I am not ignoring your request. I have things to say on the terminology and nuances but am too exhausted right now to say them and cite them properly. Not feeling 100% well for a week. Thanks for asking me. Maybe tomorrow or sunday. I want to dig up links which I haven't
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so that the evidence is in one place, and it will be easy to make a request for an uninvolved admin to block, by pointing that admin to the evidence? I can't remember if I've crossed his path or not, but I probably have, given the topics on which he edits, and so I'm probably "tainted" in terms of
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Hi - Sorry I've been out all afternoon. I've been trying to balance between lying low while responding to criticisms when necessary. I don't mind at all if you'd like to bring other people in. I was also going to thank everybody once this is over (whatever the outcome), but since I'm writing this,
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inclined to believe he was a God/Man, must believe he had a father, and the most likely candidate for his lineage is very well known. Not to mention there is clear reference to him being called Yeshu, or Yeshua, or Yehoshua, but "Jesus" is an entirely Hellenized version that comes years after the
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The only documents we have with Jesus name are Greek ones, dating from decades after his death. We have no documents listing his original Hebrew or Aramaic name, so it's all conjecture. Yehoshua ben Yosef? Possibly. Yeshua bar Yosef? Maybe. Yeshu ben Pandera? Could be. We just don't know. In
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This article describes "Anti-Semitism" as "Anti-Jewish". Many might consider this article as biased, for the reason that "Anti-Semitism" is actually a discrimination against Semitic people as a whole. The Jews are a People of the Semitic People; thus, it is believed that "Anti-Semitism" should not
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Once again. Still they prefer called Ahmadi or Ahmaddiya or Ahmadiyya community, even though most of them classify themselves as Muslims. I actually researched them and worked on their article, I actually know quite a lot about them. So to avoid both POV isn't is better to just give a wording that
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Jay, this is, I think, the point where you claim to have already refuted everything and that you're not going to bother to answer. You know you will win any dispute that comes down to numbers, because your faction is overrepresented in Knowledge. But I am at least willing to give you the chance to
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to describe the war as "the Yom Kippur War". I am not interested in your and Slim's original research into whether it is accurate to describe the territories Israel is occupying as the "Occupied Territories". Accuracy has nothing to do with it, as I pointed out on that talkpage, because we are not
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I do not know what proof you have that 69.138.215.194 is a sockpuppet for Marsden, but if you say you have proof, then ofcourse I accept if. However, regarding what you write above: "Marsden has indeed never edited Self-hating Jew before - more proof he is simply Wikistalking me, which, as he has
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The Israeli Arab community continues to grow in confidence. The Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and the outbreak of the first Palestinian Intifada in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip were defining moments for it, helping form the identity many (but by no means all) of its members
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and he simply moved the fight. He's had at least seven different articles that he's seen fit to try to insert DOM references into, probably as many as twelve or more. It'll at least protect Bokak Atoll, but if he follows his usual modus operandi he will simply move on to another article that he
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My e-mail-to-user link is enabled but won't do much good, since I can't access my e-mail until I get home from the office in the evening (about 10:00 UTC). Expect delays, forgetfulness, and -- if my overly strict e-mail filter overreacts and trashes/redirects -- even my not knowing about e-mails.
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The rest of the disputed section are written poorly and should not be the main focus of the article. For example the whole section of the "origin" 9as it is now) is already mentioned in one sentnse in the introduction, saying that Israel arabs are arabs who remaind in Israel after the 1948 armed
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Demiurge, Djegan, Jtdirl, Ali-oops, PhilipO, etc. all hover around Fenian Swine's pages to protect him like guardian angels, and he is never sanctioned for any of his twisted hatemongering and his username (which is offensive and provocative, a no-no according to Wiki rules as I read them) which
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The point under discussion is, plain and simple, whether we use the common names for things as titles, or whether we should use an NPOV title. Which policy wins, Jay? And if we use a different policy for different pages, what is your standard for doing so? Are you seriously suggesting that a POV
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On the other hand the recent addition to the Arab Israeli section are a. written as a rssion propeganda style: pumping up the (non) belivers b. not supported by facts in large parts c. parts of that are true are half truth and/or mentioned already in the article and/or belong in other articles
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Hi Jayjag, user Haham Hanuka keeps on reverting other persons' edits, sometimes disguised as minor edits, while adding POV to this article. To the best of my knowledge, he has just violated the 3RR rule. I would like you to consider restoring the article to its previous NPOV version and warning
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At this point, would it be appropriate to look around for a few more admins and try to get some kind of consensus on blocking him temporarily for gaming the 3RR in order to get him to listen, or should we go some other route? I'd like to finally get this settled as it is starting to drive poor
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No it isn't. It avoids writing that they are considered heretics and also calling them Muslims. It is a name that both they and Muslims will agree to. And the Lahori Ahmadi movement might actually consider a reference to the Ahmadi Muslim Community to be pov. So this avoids this little tangle.
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As regards your reply, fair enough, though it's a bit of a strawman to say you think that multiple POVs should be represented in Knowledge. I've certainly never felt differently, nor, presumably, do more than one or two of the oppose voters. It's a question of how he'll deal with his own POV in
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disagree with your conclusion, and as such, I no longer believe that you should be considered to have enough knowledge of the subject to edit my information. There is a wealth of information that predate the Greek, and they are known as the Qumranic documents, or the Dead Sea Scrolls. More a
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Hi Jayjg, I'm blown away that you are supporting AE for adminship. Look at some of the diffs people on the oppose side have linked to! Yes, there are a few bigoted nutters on the Oppose side, but there are more who just think this guy has spent his brief Knowledge time as an apologist for his
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I only just saw your comment on Slim's talkpage. To "refute" something, you actually have to answer it in kind. You ignore, to your convenience, what the actual point was. It was that the title of the page reflects the POV of your faction and not that of the other side in the war in question.
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Okay, I see the discussion now -- but I think that ___ian Jews is not a good title: History of the Jews in Spain could become Jews in Spain, but not Spanish Jews, for obvious reasons, a similar problem would occur with Algerian Jews (as opposed to Jews in Algeria), etc. If you want to start
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I just need to know the difference between Orthodox, Haredi, and Hasid, b/c I seem to be confused. I know that the Hasidic communities were an outgrowth of the Orthodox, but where did the Haredi come from? How do Haredi practices differ from those of the Orthodox and Hasidic communities?
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Off the top of my head I can think of pro-Israel sites sich as The Jewish Virtual Library, but I figure since most western historians agree that the war was a justified pre-emptive attack it is possible to cite neutral sources that will less likely be a point of contention. Do you agree?-
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no "precedence" here since SlimVirgin only put this into the instruction page after I filed the RfC against her a couple months ago, and I've been disputing her modification since. But of course, "facts" and "precedence" are really cover words for "what Jayjg wants". keep up the good work.
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Avril was born into a fine catholic family, but from the age of 10 chose to follow a secular, atheist and agnostic path. Do not let your republican leanings cloud your judgement, what chance is there for WikiPedia if that becomes the 'norm' HaHaHaHa. Avril 10:39, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
4351:? As one of his assigned mentors, I have attempted to distill onefortyone's edits, which I consider, in these two cases at least, to be well-sourced, balanced, verifiable and encyclopedic discussion of the actors' sexuality. They are repeatedly being reverted (and I've now been taken to 2557:, it can be clearly shown that there is a Yeshoshua, but this is not the "Jesus identity" grafted onto Yehoshua by Paul, and later, the Catholic church. I'm only interested in scholarship, not controversy. Christians can believe whatever they want about the mythical figure that 1935:
Sure it's on their site and that is what they classify themselves as, but that does not mean that they don't agree to being called Ahmadis, they call themselves the Ahmaddiya at many occasions. And isn't calling them Muslim a pov?Look at this page from their official website :
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thanks for pointing me to additional info on the naming debate for the palestinian territories. i think i did in fact use that example in the right context. i was not current in the minutae but i feel the example did make sense (especially now that i read more on the topic).
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I will continue to bring attention to unfortunate misuses of the revert function, and politically motivated personal attacks in the edit summaries. If you refuse to accept or discuss your mistakes, and they continue, I will of course go forward with the next step of the
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I'm not sure if you have noticed but somone has completley changed this article around to basically explain Israel had no right to attack her neighbors and that Egypt was completly justified in her actions before the war and anything that says differently has no basis.
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Hi - no I didn't, in my experience Knowledge email usually arrives about 24 hours late and is deposited into my junk mail box (which I also checked). My email is abuhamraan at hotmail.com (I figure it's ok to post it here because it doesn't really give anything away).
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I don't know what to make of it - it seems to be in the middle of an edit war and last I checked, the West Bank & Gaza were gone!! I've tried to follow the talk page but got lost. Anyway, I haven't forgotten, just wanted to let you know that it's frustrating..
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I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your support as well as your putting in a good word for me with others. I must say it feels like I snatched victory from the mouth of defeat after all of that controversy on my RfA. Thanks again, I really appreciate it!
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does. Or maybe they care, but they don't do anything about it because he belongs to a "protected class", and no one dares do anything lest they be accused of being "biased". The great deference shown to Yuber vs Guy (And yuber even used sockpuppets, which Guy
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Hi jayjg. I think it is easier to just call them Ahmadis rather than Ahmadi Muslims. Why? Because Muslims don't consider them to be Muslims, Ahmadis consider themselves to be Muslims. However, Ahmadis and Muslims can both agree to calling them Ahmadi. Regards
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I've started a few articles I thought you might have an interest in. Right now they are largely pastes from the Jewish Encyclopedia, but I've wikified them and made some edits. I plan to do more in the future but I'd be glad for any help you choose to give:
999:. In fact what does Fenian Swine contribute to the Knowledge community that this should be indefinitely tolerated, and he not be expelled ignominiously from the Knowledge community (although admittedly he could always come back under a different alias)?? 370:
looked at in years; hope I can find them. Keep up the good work, and don't let people's nonsense get to you- hard to tell the real (semi)newbies from the new sockpuppets - and by the way, could you split some of your ill-gotten gains with everybody else?
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Thank you for your help with the translation. I will try someday to take better pictures. It is always very sad to be there (on the cemetery), if you realize that the rich Jewish culture and "footstep" in our city's and region's history disappeared. -
2843:. DOM is a micronation involved in some kind of fraudulent schemes. Johnski has a level of interest that suggests to the rest of us that he is the one running the scheme, but he claims his interest comes from DOM as being an offshoot of his religion 1515:
Palestinian/Disputed territories cruft. I sense a possible little edit war brewing. IPT insists on using the term "Palestinian" territories, since the land in question has not been given to the Arabs, it's not "palestinian" yet, it's disputed at best.
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edit. Please let me know. I assume it was not the RfC page, which had been a matter of existing contention. Since you say that the evidence is there, can you please provide me with at least a link? (I don't need a diff if I can check the history.)
862: 898:* Please try to improve Bobby/Brian//Fenian/Swine/Muc. Now look here Old Chap, the only thing I know in relation to you is that you're a thick bollock. BTW, that means an accurate observation IMO, you sad bastard. Avril 11:32, 9 September 2005 (UTC) 930:
Why is he allowed to use a provocative and offensive username, which Knowledge instructions clearly direct the would be-Wikipedian NOT TO USE, which in this case clearly indicate support for or active volunteering in a terrorist organization, the
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Thank you very much for supporting my rather contentious request for adminship, but now that I've been promoted, I'd like to do a little dance here *DANCES*. If you have any specific issues/problems with me, please feel free to state them on
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I looked up the naming conventions, and I think I understand your point. However, I must disagree on the idea of the name Yehoshua ben Yosef being conjecture. It is very simple. There is no contemporary "historical" record of Jesus, there
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I've made substantial revisions to this article, adding a lot of material from Jewish Encyclopedia and elsewhere. It still needs a lot of work and I will add more archaeological stuff when I have time. Thought you might be interested though.
4155:(and a newspaper). Shouldn't Ma'ariv (or Maarib or whatever) have its own article? As a goy, I don't know enough about it to be useful, but do you know any scholarly Jewish Wikipedians who would want to flesh out this glaring oversight?Ā ā€“ 839:
Congrats on filling out this page properly. I was really suprised it didn't already existā€”perhaps a topic so obvious it never occurs to add it. Islam in Israel remains an interesting sub-point which will hopefully elicit contributors.
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would have solved any dispute you might have had, Ed Poor. But apparently you don't have time for that. But you do appear to have an abundance of time for, what did you say to me on the SlimVirgin RfC.... oh, yes, how could I forget,
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Fourthly: IsnĀ“t Marsden allowed to edit under his own user-name now? The "block"-period mentioned on his user-page has certainly passed. CantĀ“t he then edit either under his old user-name, or any new user-name, or anon.? Regards,
4571:" This is bullshit propeganda and you as an admin should have been the first to remove these sections. You and all the other admin who clearly have seen it (like Slim, ramallite etc.....) Not acting on this mean you aprove of it. 4297:
to only a handful of unkown academics. He should be called upon to stop BEFORE he rushes to do further damage without any consensus being reached. All his changes should therefore be reverted. See all his recent contributions via:
4220:. It recently closed with final tally of 51/1/2. I sincerely appreciate it and I hope I can live up to your expectations. I will try my best to be a good administrator. If you ever need anything, just let me know. Thanks! -- 1461:
Do you have any suggestions on gathering further evidence to support my claim? I could forward you one of the emails to show that it has no information on how to be removed from the list... Let me know what would be most helpful.
355:. He seems to be doing his best in good faith as a new user, even if he has been supportive of contentious techniques. I have been doing my best to try to mediate, though I am not sure how successful that will ultimately be. -- 3839:
Hello. You seem to know a good amount about Jewish religious subcultures and movements. I would like your advice. I need to know the difference between Haredim, Hasidim, Orthodox, and Ultra Orthodox. As I understand it:
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You two are so intelligent and make such valuable contributions, please call a truce, both of you. You can be so productive when you work together. Getting worked up doesn't do anyone (not to mention Knowledge) any good.
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Secondly: 69.138.215.194 has been editing since August, he was wished welcome on 22 Aug by user Humus sapiens (who had "noticed high quality of your contributions"...doesnĀ“t sound like H.S. general opinion about Marsdens
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I understand that some are quite busy and may have missed recent discussion and questions regarding my Arbcom matter. Ive taken the liberty of posting here to remedy any inadvertent oversight regarding my case. Sinreg,
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No, the Muslim was removed because this is not the proper name of the Lahori ahmaddiya and it would be pov not to apply to them, but glad to hear that you are happy. Btw, why did you make a big deal of this? Regards
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Jayjg it is their view on Jesus, which has in part made them heretic and to call them that on the Jesus page is pov. It would be taking the Ahmadi side. Therefore using a title which neither side disputes is better.
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look at these issues in depth. I appreciate your watchfulness against the vandalism, which is disheartening. I concede that one may not whitewash, present opinions as fact, and violate POV protocol. Respectfully,
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If it's not someone insisting that the Khazars are ancestors of all Ashkenazim, it's someone insisting against all evidence that no Khazars were ever Jewish. I could use your help dealing with this fellow. See
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For your vote on my RfA. I am trying to decide whether to get involved in the Martin Luther fight, given that I am still working on the recent changes to Pius XII. I'll take a look at the article though.
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02:34, 30 October 2005 (UTC) Also notice that the site you were looking at is only of one sect of the Ahmadiyyat which is the Ahmadiyyat Muslim Community. This ignores the smaller Lahori Ahmadiyyat . Thanks
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which is soft-soaped in the only format the censors will permit to stand (and at last view was locked in) to the ethnic cleansings of Protestants and Unionists from the Irish Free State and most recently,
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criteria are the only ones to reckon with, when there are in fact several. My computer, as I am sure many others' as well, does not pick up his type of fonts, and thus he is messing up articles such as
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so-called Palestinians were brought by the British in the 1930s to build the haifa Harbor. Other have self migrated as a result of the economic boom created by the earluy wave of zionist immigration.
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Thanks for the seasonal greetings! Well, I darn near went blind -- the article has been a blizzard of changes, as you saw -- but I posted the diffs as you requested. See what you think. Many thanks.
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Can you explain? I was under the impression that: Orthodox Jews are followers of the traditional Ashkenazi Jewish tradition as passed down. Hasidim are Jews that follow the teachings of the Besht.
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As to your suggestion that I try to advise FuelWagon to change his behavior, I have tried, in particular on the RfAr talk page about his rant against Ed Poor. He essentially told me to butt out.
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people as a whole. I think it is not fair to add one sentence that this view is not acceptable. I am talking about having a fair entry of information concerning all view points on "Anti-Semitism".
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is a proposed framework for an improved article; feel free to add to it and/or edit in the days ahead. Eventually - hopefully - it can replace the POV monstrosity that currently exists. Thanks...
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What is the difference between the Orthodox and the Haredi? I thought that the term "Haredi" was a synonym for "Orthodox," and not that Haredi were a subset of Orthodox (taxonomically speaking).
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made a "controversial" call for the destruction of Israel, or AE has mistakenly siphoned important info from the main article. I'd get involved myself, but I'm on an extended wiki-break. Thanks,
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hundred authors have written about these 1947 finds, and they really shed on a light on the life of Yehoshua, his ministry, and the more importantly the ministry of his brother James (Yacov),
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An interesting development. I may be unable to perform some necessary reverts in order to comply with Sam's request, so could you keep an eye on the articles? It shouldn't take long. Thanks.
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historical record of Yehoshua, son of Yosef (Joseph). Whether using Qumran scrolls, or the supposed "Q" document, or the Tesofta Shebota, the unaltered writings of Josephus, or even Quranic
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Noticed your contribution to israeli arab. Have you missed the total biased propeganda placed there recentlyĀ ? Have you also missed the violation of 3RR by PalmiroĀ ? Thanks for stopping by.
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Have you any views on the recent generous helpings of section-POV-warning templates, in principle (given that the whole article already has one) as much as in this particular case? Regards,
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their Jesus Christ, but I believe anyone intersted in historical (non-religious) research should have access to a page that treats the historical Yehoshua separate from the biblical Jesus.
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Second, 69.138.215.194 is Marsden's IP - I suppose he imagines that using it gives him a measure of anonymity, in order to sow doubt in people's minds as to whether or not it is really him.
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PS (I am not an anarchist but I do think some writings are better just deleted and built from scratch instead of trying to be fixed. Every good progrmmer will also tell about such things)
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Yes, but if the Messaianic Jews did not mind being called "messianites" or something and the mainstream didn't either than wouldn't it be easier to use the term that they both agree to? --
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I noticed that you deleted some blogs, saying "no blogs please". In this case I certainly agree with you! However is there a general rule against blogs? Or any other rational? Thx. -PBS-
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Yes, the Arabs attacked on the Jewish holiday. But for whatever reason they still do not call the conflict "the Yom Kippur War" though. Your faction does. Please try answering that, Jay.
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I hope you didn't mind me bombarding with you with questions; by no means feel obligated to answer all (or any) of them. Thanks for serving Knowledge, and for taking your time to help a
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Big word Brian Tunney, no what it means tho? Avril 15:36, 7 September 2005 (UTC) you want to ask tunney then ask him not me, gobshite.--Play Brian Moore 15:42, 7 :September 2005 (UTC)
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If you have any ideas on where to propose this, that would be great. I find that each of the articles has a rather limited group of editors. Otherwise, I am okay with Jews in ____. --
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Thank you for your note. I'm not sure why that editor wanted to put that in the article, but it didn't make much sense. I looked at the section again now, and it looked fine to me.
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Now technically there's no policy basis for blocking him there, because he hasn't violated the letter of the law. But he's been a very cantankerous editor about his pet project, the
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Really? Well then I guess that's a difference between you and me. And it's not controversial to the other regular editors in the article. However, I will note this for the future. --
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Third, Marsden has indeed never edited Self-hating Jew before - more proof he is simply Wikistalking me, which, as he has stated clearly, is his whole purpose for editing Knowledge.
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shows active support for a terrorist organization (the Provisional Irish Republican Army) and/or its supporters. In fact Ali-oops dismissed it with an "Naughty you!" (see below).
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is better anyway, I hearā€”though why anyone would come to the Middle East to ski escapes me.) As well, the special forces unit which trains there seems to exist solely to defend
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three times and then add a spurious link rather than reverting a fourth. My online time is somewhat erratic these days, and I may not always be able to give a quick response.
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here the only thing I no in relation to you is that your a thick bollocks.It means an accurate observation BTW you sad bastard.--Play Brian Moore 16:07, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
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I meant what Marsden or Dervish said, all the money you are getting, as confirmed by the two high-level admins, no? Doesn't that Jumbo Whales character demand a cut, too?Ā :-)
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blatant an admin simply because some dispicible opinions were expressed in opposition to him? I don't mean to stir up tzures with you, but I was surprised by the reaction. --
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Official website: Look at the title. Islam is stated separately and notice how they don't call themselves Muslim in the title, which is what we are disputing (not Islam). --
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There is a gang revert in this article by the anti israel camp. I trust that you are able to identify sections which are 100% biased and are written as bad joke (see talk)
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If I make my way all the way through it (trying right now, but I'm not sure I'm going to make it) does that mean I qualify to serve on (or be sentenced to) the arbcom?Ā :)
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I had been pronouncing both names "Jay-Gee" in my head. (It's strange how we mentally abbreviate things.) And I kept thinking "Why would a jew be so adamant about using
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you need to learn the differnce between tunney and fenian swine but i wouldnt expect anything more from a protestant.--Play Brian Moore 00:08, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
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Hello Jayjg, I hope I was not out of line with my edits after the double reverting. I think I was not, but Marsdan claims I was. Can you double check? Best regards,
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If you are interested about expanding this topic, I will definitely try to provide you with such articles. I will need some time as I am extremely busy these days.
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to become an administrator. I passed, and my floor rag has since been bestowed upon me. Please let me know if you need me to help with anything in particular! ā€”
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information? What should that article be called? Because bar Yosef, or ben Joseph, simply denotes who his father was according to Jewish custom. And anyone
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article to the Talk:Jesus page - the typical fate of POV forks is deletion or re-direction, and it would be so much easier if we could avoid the AfD process.
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If you will not delete these sections we will have a daily revert war and an article that will deal with Maek Twain instead of focusing on Israeli arabs.
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I'm not sure if I'm just being an evil jew here but will you look at the article and respond on my talk page if you will help me change it back? Thanks-
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That is what the term "Muslim" literally means. In practice, one must also sincerely recite a ritual declaration of the submission to God, called the
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I need input from a much more experienced Wikipedian about how to handle a user who is gaming the three revert rule. If you look at the history of
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pages and repeatedly violated the 3RR rule. I think the arbitration committee should place a note about this behavior on his talk page. Thank you.
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be original bobby/avril/glen prats/carlos prats/muc/SAD BASTARD.there all you you unionist swine.--Play Brian Moore 15:19, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
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Thankyou, Jay, for swift action. I wish the article to stand as we have agreed to have it stand. I will be watchful. Thankyou for your help.
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Thanks for your response. I don't agree with your conclusion in this particular case but I now have a better understanding of your reasons.--
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Yeah, I was squirming and wincing before I had the courage to hit that revert button for the first time; it may prove mighty addictive!Ā :)
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I'm at a loss how to reply to his latest on the talk page. So I won't. Thanks for helping out with the vandalism patrol on this article. --
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Jay, that is completely false. I hold no such obsession; I felt my comments were topical, if a bit light hearted at times, but without
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First, continuted disruption, trolling, and personal attacks (e.g. accusing people of promoting hate speech) are blockable offences.
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that might interest you, regarding possibly setting up a WP page or project where editors can make a note of good or dodgy sources.
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Since you have requested proofs for some of the recent edits, please see the page for responses to your requests, D. Boisclair
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Okay I have changed it in the article and used a name that I think can refer to both of them. Does that solve your dispute? --
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A Muslim is someone who has submitted him or herself to God. Ahmadi Muslims have done this. Therefore, they are Muslim. --
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I've forgotten the procedure here. (Clearly, I was never cut out to be an admin.) Can you point me in the right direction?
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particular POV, for example his belief that Hamas's persecution of gay Palestinians is "irrelevant to Knowledge". Regards,
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I was appalled by not only the editorial style but also by some "facts" that appear to be Original Research. For example:
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Okay. . . Just don't make me real the whole RFC. It would take the patience of an arbcom member to get through that!Ā :)Ā ā€“
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Hello, I don't know if it's appropriate for me to be writing to you, but I really am concerned about something. I have an
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feel about the ArbCom, and your opinions of it are. Thus, I hope you don't mind answering a few questions. Many thanks!
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and notice how they don't refer to themselves as Muslims in the title there. I believe the exact term is Ahmaddiyat. --
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The revert was sound, the reasoning was sound, and please do not bring up 3 month old edits on my Talk: page any more.
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The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu: Humanitarian Despotism and the Conditions of Modern Tyranny,
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My (correct) email is ratioscripta (((AT))) gmail (((DOT))) com, I apologize, I didn't spell it out correctly before.
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Have you considered creating an e-mail account where people could actually reach you, say a Hotmail or Gmail account?
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played on its tax-exempt fields, and which is of no interest to anyone who is not an irredentist Irish nationalist.
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Thanks Jayig. I must have missed that part of the style manual. Well...live and learn...thanks for the heads-up.--
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FW is also a very difficult person to deal with. His complaints against others echo what I see him doing himself.
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and then in a few hours, I have a request for arbitration against me by, that same arbitrator, with the purpose of
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exercising his admin powers on related articles: responsibly, or not? On that question, we'll agree to disagree.
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Thanks for your message, I've looked it over briefly and will examine it more closely as soon as I get a chance.
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Ofcourse it is when it's in the title. You disputed Muslim being added, which is different than saying Islam. --
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Can the "Yuber banned" template be used in this case? I was really hoping that the arbcom case would deal with
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as "violating the ArbCom order." I do not consider them to do any such thing. I would appreciate your input.
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about the abuse of Islamic "temporary marraige" as a front for prostitution. I hope you can watch this page.
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on the article three weeks ago, he's pretty much been exclusively reverting the same section over and over.
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any event, I'm going to point your article back to the Jesus article now; please work these issues out on
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archiving your talk page, I am pleased to award you the following shiny image macro! Enjoy! Best regards,
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Oh and it wasn't deceptive. I just didn't have enough space to completely write out this minor change. --
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Hey. Notice you're still editing under that name. Naughty you! - Ali-oopsāœ 15:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
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You need to immediately cease reverting my edits, or I will inform an administrator and have you banned.
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Christopherk is reverting to Walabio's version. Why do people have such problems with following policy?
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I think we have seperated peacefully. Is this ok with the policies? Some redirects may still be a mess.
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needed for the separation of the two topics, and that page shouldn't be listed under the title Jesus.
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Perhaps so, but I would hazard that most tourists who come to Israel don't come to ski. (The skiing on
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Mirv, and a coterie of sympathetic editors are engaging in a buffing campagine, could you take a look?
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Jay, can you please not rename the History of the Jews in... series? At least without discussion? --
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Been there, done that, but since my workplace explicitly blocks those sites it doesn't do any good. --
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Thanks for your vote in my RfA. I'll do my best to live up to the wiki standards and be a good admin!
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about whether sources need to be in English whenever possible. Would you mind taking a look? Cheers,
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articles. He is no doubt a sock-puppet for someone or other, perhaps he should be blocked? Thanks
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It was a mistake and it wasn't deceptive. I just felt one edit was easier, wouldn't you? Thanks --
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however, but it is complete and available as plain text or in HTML format (ISO-8859-1 encoding).
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main article. It is a bit of a mess. I have put a "candidate for immediate deletion" note on the
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I'll keep an eye on it (by the time I read your message Willmcw had ridden in to the rescue). --
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Hi. Can I get your opinion of Tony's latest recreation and relisting of a valid VfD deletion at
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i suppose atheism is better than protestanism.--Play Brian Moore 20:04, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
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Thanks for the heads up on that RFA. I will take a look, Godwillling. Best to you and yours,
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8. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why?
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Orthodox (sometimes modern orthodox) = Haredi Ultra orthodox = Hasidim (subset of Haredim)
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Comments which fail to follow the four rules above may be immediately archived or deleted.
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That article needed a fresh pair of eyes. Thanks for taking the time to look and comment.
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I have checked the Project Gutenberg Web site, however, and there is no English version.
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relabelling to Jews in ___ and fixing double redirects, we could take that approach. --
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Religious hatemongering and race baiting by Wikipedian "Fenian Swine (Play Brian Moore)"
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Thanks for the heads up, but I'm the one who nominated it for deletion! :P Cheers, -
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the RfC is as a place to gather evidence, and I think it serves its purpose well. --
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The diff you sent is a. Written well b. maybe true c. written in fairly NPOV fashion
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Is this correct? If not, please advise at ratioscripa (((AT))) gmail (((DOT))) com
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brought against me, and I cannot find out what I am being accused of. The case says
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I can't tell him to quit stalking SlimVirgin unless I see that he is stalking her.
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Thank you very much for your support. I know we've had our small differencesĀ ;). --
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after I did a similar overhaul on that article I thought you might want to know. --
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that when there is another incident they cannot pretend it was an isolated matter.
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10. Looking in retrospective, is there anything you would have done differently?
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Hi. I wanted to bring to your attention that an RfC has been posted concerning
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is very carefully putting his fourth reverts just after each 24 hour period.
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12. What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?
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adopt as being part of the Palestinian people yet part of the Israeli state.
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so that I can work to prevent them in the future, and thanks once again!
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Using that Definition, are not every observant religious person Muslim? --
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Hi. 69.193.242.60 seems to be obsessed with me, based on his behaviour on
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here to judge POVs. We do not criticise them, Jay. We simply report them.
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has now been "taken-over" by a pro-Mormon user and a new similar-looking
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At this point, I can only provide you with the URL of the Web page for
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discuss your view, a privilege you rarely extend to those you oppose.
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did) in the RfAr seems to support my hypothesis. This is depressing.
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Not a problem. I appreciate your pointing me in the right direction.
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You misunderstand, I was notsuggested that the JVL should be used.-
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I think you've voted twice on the third proposed finding of fact. --
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Maurice Joly's 'Dialogue aux enfers entre Machiavel et Montesquieu'
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so there is no reason for me to change it even if I don't like it.
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article? I put a "merge to" sign on it. What do you think? Thanks.
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Jayjg, just one question. Don't they also call themselves just the
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I thank you for your interest, and urge all readers here to act.
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article, though they are well supported by credible sources. See
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There is a surprisingly blatant 3rr problem from Zeno of Elea at
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Very insightful.--Play Brian Moore 15:08, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
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It's a lost & found notice board; remove as spam, of course.
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About a month ago I placed this note on Israeli Arab talk page
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but the Catholic Church after the Nicean creed. I think a page
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the case has beeen opened mainly to consider the behavior of REX
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Removing a link (by blind revert) to a Daniel Pipes article on
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Jenchurch aka Mad Merv has gone on a rampage, as you'll see on
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title is acceptable so long as it is accurate by your lights?
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page about Unbehagen's constant reverts. Interestingly, since
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case has 69.138.215.194 reverted/edited just after Jayjg (in
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to add your opinions about this important matter. Thank you.
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Thanks for supporting my successful Request for Adminship! ā€”
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Sources for allegations of unsolicited email from NGO monitor
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Your sensible comments in this vote are much appreciated. --
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Hello, Jayjg! I just wanted to deliver this week's issue of
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Hi, Jayjg, an anonymous editor took the material from the
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So, could you please tell me where I am mistaken? Thanks.
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7. Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not?
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for his past affiliations with the group MEChA during the
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thanks a lot for your support - I greatly appreciate it.
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since you seem to be one of the people who reverted? --
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Gilgamesh
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It's better than saying "fucking Jew." Believe me. --
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If you are considering posting something to me, please:
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who don't approve of them call them "Ultra-Orthodox".
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4. What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?
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I recently made extensive additions and revisions to
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I have an answer to your request on the "talk page"
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as far as I can see (which 69.138.215.194 edits now)
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Just noticed that you yourself added this bullshit:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Aabaas
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is not because of a ski resort in the Golan Heights
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Thanks for your vote of support on 3959:"Haredi Jews" are a subset of "Orthodox Jews" 3475:against an editor who is an unpaid volunteer. 3145:I appreciate the work you have devoted to the 2427:. I have indicated that on the former's page. 597:2. If so, do you plan to run for re-election? 426:; I assume it's spam, but I'm curious what. -- 3506:Talk:Jewish ethnic divisions#"Migrating" Jews 3356:Because you couldn't do that as an editor? -- 2246:How can I have private discussions with you? 1968:- see the link I gave you from their site. -- 1836:I thought you might be interested in joining 308:. A background fact-check will confirm this. 48:*Use headlines when starting new talk topics. 2761:is now being utilised. This Mormon template 351:Jay, I think you might want to go easier on 326:showed up at for the first time to revert a 5132:http://ddickerson.igc.org/antisemitism.html 3141:Your editorship and scholarship appreciated 2519:Yes, Knowledge has naming conventions: see 1433:Please have a look and offer your comments 4899:Temporary International Presence in Hebron 3166:is still removing my contributions to the 2899:I think there may be a policy basis. From 2881:thinks he can use to promote his country. 2167:Done. I had previous put in a note on the 802:Could I ask you to address my question at 471:Cool Cat, Davenbelle etc arbitration votes 5115:I hope that this information helps, Jay! 4384:The issue was taken care of by Jpgordon. 4045:to propose it for a vote or something? -- 3537:Is there going to be any action on this? 2783:Take a look at the antics of User:Aabaas 2321:User talk:FDuffy#What Knowledge is not... 1075:http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Israeli_Arab 251:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Fluidtime 244:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Fluidtime 5128:http://ddickerson.igc.org/protocols.html 4561:an exmaple with high encyclopidic value 2765:and makes confusing use of the original 497:the proper procedure for a second AfD. 293:did not participate in the criticism of 4813:Knowledge:Requests for comment/Politics 3262:'s abusive behavior once and for all. 14: 4980:Knowledge:Requests for comment/Marsden 3787:Very much for your kind support of my 3309:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 3300:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 3287:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 2333:Please cease making 'ski resort' edits 2323:for observation and input. Thank you. 1352:Help with anonymous apparent obsessive 4187:Knowledge:Naming conventions (Hebrew) 1360:. What should I do about it? Thanks, 1202:has been nominated for deletion. See 1022:Knowledge:Requests for comment/Essjay 595:1. Are up for re-election this year? 322:I don't know what page in particular 5080:The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, 4945:? I just donĀ“t understand. Regards, 4151:article is a dab that links only to 3416:? Because it looks like that's what 2876:Well, actually we already protected 2779:Revert war in Israel & West Bank 804:Talk:Jewish_American#Persian.2FFarsi 5105:http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1318 3001:I appreciate your attention to the 2250:Circumcision / Jenchurch / Mad Merv 1639:Talk:History of the Jews in Algeria 1216:Please be more careful with reverts 31:Thanks for visiting my Talk: page. 23: 4978:May I strongly suggest creating a 3687: 3396:Perhaps you can share your input? 3321: 1493:. Please review the edit history. 1397:. Thanks again for all your help! 24: 5143: 4402:Hi Kelly, did you get my e-mail? 3329: 2767:Template:Jews and Judaism sidebar 2755:Template:Jews and Judaism sidebar 2026:Lol! Yeah the "true Islam".Ā :) -- 1358:Talk:Israeli-occupied territories 5093:The text is the original French 5078:] about the Knowledge entry for 4206: 3644: 2749:Looking at a new article called 2718: 2634: 2562: 2500: 2469: 2399:History of Arab-Israeli Conflict 2393:History of Arab-Israeli Conflict 1489:) has been working his magic on 1307:considering the behaviour of REX 757:. All in good fun, of course... 233:Thanks, I think it was helpful. 118:Territories controlled by Israel 4214: 3528:Yuber violation of RfAr Part II 2926:Could you take a look. Thanks. 2908:the editor's preferred wording. 2361:Talmudic Academies in Babylonia 2185:Put the ski resort crap in the 249:May I invite you to comment at 4752:Thirdly: Marsden never edited 4104:Martin Luther and Anti-Judaism 4096:Martin Luther and Anti-Judaism 4092:Martin Luther and Antisemitism 4085:Martin Luther and Antisemitism 3744:Apartheid outside South Africa 3701:Thanks for your support on my 3417: 3147:Martin Luther and AntiSemitism 2397:Hi Jay, please take a look at 1694:Are you now able to email me? 1374:. 19:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC) 986:(95 years ago) bombing of the 513:Never mind. 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Ramallite

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