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Wolfram von Eschenbach later (and Thomas Mallory and Alfred Lord Tennyson later still, for that matter â being on the Continent vs. Great Britain isn't a wholly accurate dividing line, as some legit British legend remained in Breton tradition, while the later English rulers and people around them were mostly Norman French keenly interested in injecting French stuff into British legend). The same care needs to be taken here as with Irish mythology and the Christian layers placed on top of it. Doing this properly requires a high level of subject-matter expertise, as even many generally reliable sources on Arthurian works do not take sufficient care to separate Brythonic legend from Franco-Romance fiction (especially in works primarily concerned with the late medieval to modern form of the stories as literary works). Some of the stock characters by Mallory's time were entirely fictional and had sometimes directly displaced original Welsh characters, while others were just injected in the middle, sometimes with profound effects on the subject matter (e.g., Lancelot and the demonization of Guinevere as an adulteress).
1864:"A Welsh Classical Dictionary, people in History and Legend up to about A.D. 1000, was published by the National Library of Wales in 1993. In his introduction P.C. Bartrum refers to the volume as âa series of notes arranged alphabetically under personal names and a few place-namesâ which âare the result of many years of working in the field of early Welsh history, legend and fiction, and are to some extent biased towards subjects which were of personal interestâ to him, with âa leaning towards genealogy and to the development of historical ideasâ. He has attempted to âgive the essential outlines of legends and fictions, generally telling the stories without comment, interpretation or speculation.â"
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it seeking more sources that I have collected. The "Knanaya" page is giving much lies about the
Knanaya community. Someone or some group is playing dirty game with your Encycloedia to tarnish the community. I believe it is not appropriate for an Encyclopedia. I don't want to "fight" with them. Many community members are upset with what they are doing with an Encyclopedia. So the Catholic Section of the Knanaya Community leaders requested me to help on this. That is why I used a different page with reliable and different matter. If you have question, please feel free to contact me.
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Continental Europeans whose jobs brought them into common contact with foreign travelers often used "milord" to address indiscriminately any male English-speakers who seemed to be rich or upper-class. Most such
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to the dab page, it would have broken all those links by sending them to the dab page. As I didn't have the time or inclination to fix them all myself, the simplest solution was to revert your bold move and put it to RM. It's a good thing I did, as the move was obviously controversial, looking at how
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Hi Bill; I just saw that you closed the proposed move over at "Magic (paranormal)". If you don't mind, I'd like to open up a Move Review regarding that decision. You stated that there was no consensus, but frankly I think that there is a very clear consensus. I originally suggested moving the page to
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Thank you for your reply. If you cannot verify my source, please ask me and I can send you proof. But please don't delete the whole matter as you did before. It is upsetting after many days of my hard work. The content I posted in "Knanaya
Catholics" is different from "Knanaya". I am still working on
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Gwenhwyfar split does not) if coming from an anon, especially if the IP address ever changes. That said, a mass merger is unlikely to be supportable, because there is virtually never going to be a
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British material; he's neither part of Welsh folklore nor British traditional history, but post-dates both. Articles on Guinevere, etc.,
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I was intending to do that once the template links weren't showing up. However, the real issue is that the article was moved through RM months ago and the redirect was never changed, leaving the base name redirecting to a disambiguated name. The lack of navigation is a worse problem than some broken
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Bill - I'm wondering why your removed the explanation of the long-ago shift from a cross-grid layout of the field to today's basically non-cross-grid layout. It addresses a question that a lot of people have, "why do they call it a grid?", and supplies some hard-to-find and long-forgotten history to
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Those links were false positives caused by the caching problem with the nav templates I noted above. Also, people will invent controversy if given the chance. Those ppl know I moved the page BOLDly already, and didn't revert because I think they know the right course of action, but given the chance
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Nice work in boiling this now sprawling topic down to its encyclopedic essence. How would you feel about my giving it a bit of a copyediting polish. It's already in strong shape. I just see a few spots where the prose could be tighter or flow better. Would love to help you get it over the FA finish
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I had a good quote from George Eliot that I was going to add to the article, but the bookmark fell out of the book, so now I have to go through the book to find it again (Google searches for "milord" in Eliot's writings seem to turn up bits from Daniel Deronda, which is not what I'm looking for).
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I understand. Relisting sounds like a good compromise. I believe that the argument was based upon the building's relative notability as a hotel rather than the relative prominence of each search phrase. Since that's closer to an editorial decision on scope, it makes sense to want more evidence of
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are clear that we prefer natural disambiguation when it is available; that often resolves to a comma-delimited construction when it comes to geographical names. That said, I don't have any issue with the "No move" result. This is something that should be settled by an RfC and made clearer in the
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I (just a bit reluctantly) have to agree with you. It looks like the original field didn't have the "grid" pattern, but that such a pattern came into being with a rules change. I hope you will agree that, to me and many others, "grid" calls up images of crossing lines. Even if "gridiron" means
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Redirecting them would have created hundreds of broken links, and I didn't have time to fix them all. And honestly, I don't know that all of them are the right move. At this stage I think most of the ones I reverted are controversial enough that there should be an RM - I started an RM for
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A mass merger would probably be fine if it improved the sourcing in these articles. Very many of the character articles have no sources at all - I know, I wrote many of them back before inline citations were a requirement on Knowledge. Better to have one good article than dozens of bad
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They probably should have left it to an admin, but it's hard to argue against their rationale given the way the discussion went, as well as other recent discussions about using genre disambiguators. Definitely a line call. If you wish you can bring it up with the closer, and go to
3178:"Magic (study of religion)"; that wasn't very popular. However, there are at least eight statements of support that the article be instead moved to "Magic"; conversely, there was only one neutral statement and two in opposition. That's a pretty clear consensus in my book.
2682:: Of course! I'd appreciate any help you could offer. I'm in the middle of an unsaved edit I've been doing for a few days and plan to make another edit to address some of the concerns at the FA, but I'll wrap it up quickly and you can have at it. Thanks again.--
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2865:: I agree with you, I don't think the infobox is an improvement, and when it replaces the ethnic group infobox, it removes more pertinent info like the language links. The dates also give false/misleading info in some cases. I'll remove the ones I can find.--
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3656:. Search on âusumâ in each of the Latin or Latin-English customaries, and you will readily see how common this term is. Search on âritusâ or ârituâ, and you will find nothing. English âriteâ was used to translated âobsequiumâ, which is too bad.
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1889:: I'll weigh in over at the article. Cagwinn is correct that the Arthurian connection is bupkis and that virtually nothing is known of Owain. However, the purported Arthurian connection should stay with proper critical sourcing.--
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Yeah, good catch. Looks like it was a search error on my part - I misspelled "Lowell station" so it turned up no results, whereas I got a few for Gallagher. However, when I Google News it now, I find a number using "Lowell
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argument. The entire point of the RM and various others is to move toward a consistent disambiguation approach. I'm not even sure I care whether it's comma or parenthetical; the problem is veering between them.
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2019:: See what you think now. Bartrum doesn't seem to say what "Danwyn" means, so please add something if you have it. Actually any additional sources you might have would be most appreciated.--
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