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I am glad to having received some reply now. Thank you cj. Nevertheless, I believe, that only the offending part should have been removed then, and not a number of further other amendments too via a wholesale revert without trace. I still think this was administratively
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Hi. I was in the process of updating the above page which was under threat of deletion, but you deleted it before I was finished! Can you re-instate it so I can complete the noteworthiness. Thank you. Please post to my user page
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