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Huwasis by ISIL because battles were still ongoing in that area. if you want to talk about T4 offensive and ISIS presence north of the airbase then you can create another article because this battle is ongoing for more than a year now and the main aim was to cut SAA forces in
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First thanks for correcting the date. Regarding the name (IS) want to be called as "The
Islamic State" while most Muslims refuse to use this name because if we use it this will reflect that we recognize them as the supreme legitimate government of all Muslims around the world like the early Islamic
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we already discussed this, you are the only one who want's to expand this article to an area not related to the same offensive. you can't call an offensive that led to the capture of the largest gas filed in Syria as "Indecisive"! if you wan't you can expand the date until the recent recapture of
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Do you know why the name is pejorative, and why ISIS hate it so much? No-one seems able to answer this question and I have looked on the internet but can find nothing on this. Btw, I have altered the date in the infobox for the establishment of ISIS to 8 April 2013. There was lot of discussion
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THis guy knows nothing! in Falujah (2014) they were not alone while in Azaz (2013) they were alone after kicking out FSA's Northen storm) and in tens of diffrent cities in Syria
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Yes exactly Daesh or داعش came from D= Dawla دولة (state) A= Islamyah إسلامية (Islamic) E=Eraq عراق (Iraq) Sh= Sham شام (Levant).
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