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Garioch Recycling Points. And there you don't need to use "the". In any case the recycling points are in "Garioch area" which includes the Garioch but also includes some adjoining regions which are not historically part of the Garioch. So adjectival use, therefore no problem with the lack of an article there either.
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Council's own website menu bar, as referred to above, has "Garioch" not "The Garioch", regardless of the history/background.
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If one were being pedantic, The Sudan, The
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If there was such a "burning issue" it would've been good to have seen that resolved when the article for (The) Garioch was first published rather than a couple of years down the line. No-one else has complained about the "Garioch" article until you added your note on the Talk page following on from
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There's nothing wrong with using "Garioch" without the article when its use is adjectival (eg
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Similarly neither your NHS example nor your running club examples cause me to think twice since the hospital is the "Garioch Life Centre", not the "Life Centre for
Garioch". And the Garioch Road Runners, who doubtless all live in the Garioch, merely show good grammar skills when they tell us that
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Going through your other examples, I have no problem with the
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Garioch" but on the other hand it then calls itself "Gateway to Garioch". So besides not being sure what the motto of the site should be the webmaster seems unsure whether to use "the" or not. Still even so you'll find plenty of places where "the Garioch" is used
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Well, I've pointed out the facts. I've tried to fix the problem. I see no point in edit-warring with you over it. However since you don't believe that it's a burning issue, I take it that you will not revert the next person's attempt to fix it. --
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For example Insch only has a population of 196 going by its page (ref is 2012). Where as
Kingseat (not listed) has a population of 750? (Full disclosure: I've got a draft page for Kingseat pending review).
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