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the S-Bahn is included here, but that is definitely heavy rail (legally, an S-Bahn train is a railway train like any other in Germany). Plus if S-Bahn is included, cities like Berlin should show up as well. The list contains Riga, but in Riga there are trams and railways (and trolleybuses, but these can't count as "light rail", since they have no rails). The railways, being broad gauge, are actually pretty heavy, nobody would describe them as "light rail". The same is true for Iasi (not broad gauge, but still nothing resembling light rail in Iasi). So many inclusions in this list seem dubious.
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There are proportionally far more advantages than sources, and far more advantages than disadvantages. However, the amount of sourced advantages and disadvantages seems very similar. This brings factual accuracy of the section in to question. There are several points that are unsourced and expansions
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There is the list headed "Other large transit networks that operate streetcar and light rail systems include". At least for some of them, I wonder what the "light rail systems" included are. This is true for example for Leipzig, which has classic tramways and railway trains, and nothing else. Perhaps
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In addition, there are some points I find to be debatable when met with no source: "Being guided by rails means that even very long tram units can navigate tight, winding city streets that are inaccessible to long buses." While it's true that long busses cannot navigate tight corners, many modern
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This article is waaay too long. Perhaps we could consider moving sections to new articles (which I've done for the "Design" section) and providing a summary in their place, or removing information that is already present in existing articles. There are two things we could do:
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Late here, but I agree. I read the History of Trams articles and there are so many similarities. Not to mention, there are practically no sources on this very long article - I found 3 pages and several other sections with absolutely 0 sources!
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The article states that the Melbourne tram system is "generally recognised as one of the largest in the world". This is not true, it is generally recognised as THE largest system in the world.
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The lists of trams systems and statistics should similarly be checked for differences and be merged with their respective main articles. Similarly a summary should also be provided.
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Portland Streetcar: Streetcar, Portland, Oregon, downtown Portland, MAX light rail, Portland Metropolitan Area, government of Portland, Oregon
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trams have a pretty limiting upper value on track curvature. What I'm trying to say, to clarify, is that the points are simply not reliable.
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for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
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article and a summary left instead in the "History" section of the main Trams article (this one).
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The history section should be checked to see if it shares the same information as the
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