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On that note, the article uses Osbern as the primary name throughout. The article is titled "Osbern fitzRichard" but it appears that his last name was actually Scrob. Does this have something to do with French/Norman naming customs? If so, leave it as is. If not, replace most mentions of Osbern with
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Overall, this article lacks a few too many key factors that I don't believe can be easily fixed just by amending it with the recommended edits. It lacks depth and is largely reliant on just four citations. Perhaps with some more expansive sources, it could be made larger and be renominated.
224:"Career" seems like an inappropriate title as no real career is mentioned. In fact, the "Background", "Career", and "Legacy" sections are all short enough to possibly be combined into a single "Biography" or "Life" header. 230:"at the time of Domesday Book in 1086". Give a brief explanation of what exactly Domesday Book in the text. A possible change could be "at the time of the Great Survey of 1086". 189:"Perhaps Norman". A parenthesis or, preferably, em dash would be best suited for an interruption in a sentence such as this. Example: "was a French—perhaps Norman—landowner" 249:"Osbern's date of death is unknown, occurring sometime after 1088". Avoid using "unknown". Simply state that it occurred at some point between 1088 and 1100. 269:
Try to combine "Citations" and "References". Perhaps add a single "References" as the heading with "Footnotes" and "Bibliography" and the two sub-headings.
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rather than Osbern fitzRichard. While the current information may be kept, at least some mention of fitzRichard's background should be mentioned.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
246:"Osbern perhaps had another son". To avoid ambiguity, it can be mentioned that the charter states that he had another son. 283: 110: 171: 167: 86: 186:
existed since at least 987. You can also remove "who was a" to simply make "was a French landowner".
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Combine the sentence on Osbern's issue into the first paragraph. "Together they had a son" etc.
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so that you can easily click on the citation to get the book.
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