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768: 744: 671:) of the same caliber, rifles that were almost new and in most cases had never been used, were also converted to M1867s using rolling-block actions made both by Remington and in Sweden. The Swedish designations for the converted rifles were "gevär m/1860-68", "gevär m/1864-68" and "gevär m/1860-64-68" depending on how many steps of conversion they had gone through (the two latter conversions are easily recognized by having the rear sight very far back, a result of the barrels being shortened from the breech end). About 7,000 short carbines with the Swedish designation "karbin m/1870" were also made, and in addition to that about 9,600 "gevär m/1864-68" were shortened to carbine length in 1886-87 and given the designation "karbin m/1864-68-85". Other varieties were "gevär m/1867-74" with a new rear stock design and "kammarskjutningsgevär m/1884" and "kammarskjutningskarbin m/1884" in 795: 819: 756: 732: 807: 780: 31: 302:, but the actual caliber was 3.88 Norwegian decimal lines or 4.1 Swedish decimal lines (12.17 mm), and it fired a rimfire round with a 12.615 mm (.497 in) lead bullet. The 12.17 mm caliber was chosen because the Swedish army had approximately 30,000 new muzzle-loading M1860 and breech-loading M1864 rifles in 12.17 mm caliber in stock, rifles that were suitable for conversion to M1867 rolling-block rifles. With the exception of the first 10,000 rifles and 20,000 actions (for conversions of older rifles), which were made by 667:. In addition to that 10,000 complete rifles and 20,000 actions made in the US were bought from Remington. The standard rifle received the Swedish designation "gevär m/1867" (and a version with only minor differences the designation "gevär m/1867-68"). Approximately 30,000 Swedish muzzle-loading rifles m/1860 and breech-loading rifles m/1864 (some of which had been converted from m/1860, note that the Swedish breech-loading rifle m/1864 although being referred to as a "kammarladdare" was not the same rifle as the Norwegian 704:(bullet diameter .322 in/8.17mm, bullet weight 237 grains/15.29 grams, muzzle velocity 1,965 ft per second/600 m/s), with the designation "gevär m/1867-89" used for converted rifles and "gevär m/1889" used for new rifles. rolling-block rifles chambered for the 8Ă—58mmR were shorter than the M1867 rifles, with an overall length of 1,240 mm (48.8 in) and a barrel length of 840 mm (33.1 in). 520:
and the Remington was suitable for issuing to the field army. In the end, the commission based their decision on price and complexity. The Remington totalled a mere 25 parts to the Peabody's 37, and it was approved for use by both the Norwegian and the Swedish armed forces, as their standard military rifle, on 22 November 1867.
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After various tests, including repeated firings, it was clear that the needle guns were not particularly well-suited. These - along with the repeating rifles - were dropped from further testing. Further testing - which included test firing by previously untrained troops - showed that both the Peabody
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In 1880 Kongsberg VĂĄpenfabrikk delivered 72 conversion kits for the rifles which allowed less expensive 22LR ammunition to be fired from the M1867 for training. These kits consisted simply of tubes to be inserted into the rifle from the breech, containing a chamber for the 22LR and a short barrel.
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The M1867 rifle became very popular among civilian hunters in Sweden, particularly for moose hunting, which led to Husqvarna Vapenfabrik producing about 85,000 rifles with the M1867 rolling-block action for the civilian market, in addition to the more than 100,000 they made for the armed forces.
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cartridge used by the Jarmann rifle was seen as being too little of an improvement over the 12.17 mm cartridge used in the M1867 rifles. So as a stop-gap measure rifles and carbines with rolling-block action were converted to a for that time period very modern centerfire cartridge, the
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During the last years of the 19th century the M1867 in all its different guises was finally replaced in Swedish military service by Mauser bolt action repeating rifles and carbines (with a modified Mauser 1893 action), under the designations "karbin m/1894" and
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in Norway, but since the factory needed to be upgraded with more modern machinery, 5000 of the first rifles delivered to the Norwegian Army were manufactured by Husqvarna Vapenfabrik in Sweden in 1871-72. The difference is minor, the Norwegian rifles have
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and numbering 40,000 men in 1865, all of them provided with military rifles and wearing military style uniforms by the Swedish armed forces) were made for, or converted to, centerfire 12.17Ă—44mmR cartridges since, unlike the
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The sight of the rifle was the last item to be standardized because no one could agree on which would be best. The early production rifles had an L-shaped sight that could be flipped over, but the final design was a
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rimfire cartridges used in the military, the centerfire cartridges could be reloaded. One model of Swedish military M1867 rifles modified to use the 12.17×44mmR centerfire cartridge was the "gevär m/1867-74".
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rifle that was produced in the second-half of the 19th century. It was the first rifle using metallic cartridges to be adopted by the Norwegian and Swedish armies. Nominally, it had a caliber of 4 decimal
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replaced the M1867 as the main rifle in the first lines of the Norwegian Army, the M1867 was delegated to rear units until at least the mid-1890s. Roughly 5,000 were modified in 1888 and 1891 into
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From the early 1870s the Norwegian armed forces used the 12.17Ă—44mm RF, which apart from the case length and overall length of the cartridge was identical to the original Norwegian-Swedish
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About 200,000-220,000 military rifles and 7,000 military carbines using the m/1867 action were manufactured as complete weapons in Sweden, 100,000-120,000 rifles and 4,000 carbines by
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buttplates and head of the cleaning rod, and steel mounting bands, while Swedish rifles have iron furniture. For the first few years the barrels of the M1867 were made of
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Both M1867's for civilian use and M1867's used by the Swedish Frivilliga Skarpskytterörelsen ("The Volunteer Sharpshooter Movement", patterned on the British
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became the standardized material. The price for each barrel was slightly higher, but the better design reduced misfire damage and ultimately resulted in
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rifle should replace the m/1867 in both Norwegian and Swedish service but the Jarmann rifle was rejected by the Swedish Army since the
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Carsten Schinke - Die leichten schwedischen Infanteriegewehre Armee und Heimwehr - Journal-Verlag Schwend GmbH - 1990
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Surplus military rifles were also sold to civilians, most them being converted to 12.17Ă—44mmR centerfire cartridges.
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Carsten Schinke - Die leichten schwedischen Infanteriegewehre Armee und Heimwehr -Journal-Verlag Schwend GmbH - 1990
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Carsten Schinke - Die leichten schwedischen Infanteriegewehre Armee und Heimwehr -Journal-Verlag Schwend GmbH -1990
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The intention was to allow for cheaper training. Later, in 1884, several M1867 were permanently modified to fire
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arms commission was established in order to select a suitable cartridge and rifle for the two nations.
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Several different cartridges and rifles were considered by the commission. A partial list includes:
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in the US, all Remington M1867 rifles and carbines were made under license in Norway and Sweden, by
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sold the obsolete M1867 to the public for a nominal price. Many of these were converted into
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Norwegian-Swedish rifle m/1867, from the initial batch of M1867 made by Remington in the US
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A new Norwegian-Swedish arms commission set up in the 1880s suggested that the Norwegian
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Other nations used rifles with the Remington action too, this page lists some of them
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in Sweden with the two Swedish manufacturers producing about 80% of the weapons.
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From Musket to Metallic Cartridge: A Practical History of Black Powder Firearms
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combining bullet, primer and propellant load. In early October 1866, a joint
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In the 1860s the Norwegian and Swedish armies realized that their standard
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from 1867 until 1883, when production was curtailed to make room for the
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Today, an unmodified M1867 in decent shape might be worth 4,000 - 6,000
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Swedish rifle m/1867-74, introducing a new more comfortable buttstock
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Swedish rifle m/1867, made by Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärsfaktori
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A grand total of 58,450 Remington M1867 were delivered to the
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The 8 mm carbine conversions were kept in reserve until
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Swedish carbine m/1864-68-85 for artillery, train and others
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seem to agree that the modified arms are worth a lot less.
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Swedish m/1867 rifle. Pattern (Modellexemplar), serial # 1.
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Swedish rifle m/1867-89 in 8Ă—58mmR Danish Krag centerfire
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Norwegian rifle M1867, made by Kongsberg Vaapenfabrik
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Index


Rolling-block
rifle
Barrel
Cartridge
12.17Ă—42mm RF
12.17Ă—44mm RF
12.17Ă—44mmR
10.15Ă—61mmR
8Ă—58mmR Danish Krag
Action
Rolling-block
Rate of fire
Muzzle velocity
Breech-loading
rolling-block
lines
Remington
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrik
Husqvarna Vapenfabriks Aktiebolag
Carl Gustafs stads Gevärsfaktori
rifles
cartridge
Swedish-Norwegian
Needle-guns
Prussian needle gun
rifles
Peabody
lever-action
Remington

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