360:(the capital of the county of Vermandois) from natural causes. The story of him being hanged by king Louis IV (see fig. above) during a hunt is fictitious. His vast estates and territories were divided among his sons. Vermandois and Amiens went to the two elder sons while Robert and Herbert, the younger sons, were given the valuable holdings scattered throughout Champagne. On Robert's death his brother's son Herbert III inherited them all. Herbert III's only son Stephen died childless in 1019–20 thus ending the male line of Herbert II.
29:
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In 926, on the death of Count Roger I of Laon. Herbert demanded this countship for Eudes, his eldest son. He took the town in defiance of King
Rudolph leading to a clash between the two in 927. Using the threat of releasing King Charles III, whom he held captive, Herbert managed to hold the city for
605:, which was penned years later, circa 960, during the reign of Louis IV’s son Lothar III (954-986). Flodoard of Reims, whose contemporary annals provide the most reliable political narrative for Louis IV’s reign, gives no indication that the king played a role in Herbert’s death.“
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Herbert 'the Old', Count of Meux the son of
Herbert II is sometimes confused with his nephew, Herbert III, Count of Meux and Troyes, son of Robert Count of Meux. It was Herbert 'the Old' who married Eadgifu of Wessex in 951, his nephew Herbert III wasn't born until
635:
who, taking advantage of the youth of
Herbert II's successor, gave William Longwsord's widow, Luitgarde to his own vassal Theobald 'the Deceiver', count of Blois. But Glaber mistakenly credited Duke William's murder to Theobald 'the Deceiver' instead of Arnulf of
336:, who allocated the County of Laon to Roger II, the son of Roger I, in 941. Herbert and Hugh the Great took back Rheims and captured Artaud. Hugh, the son of Herbert, was restored as archbishop. Again the mediation of the German King
301:
four more years. But after the death of
Charles in 929, Rudolph again attacked Laon in 931 successfully defeating Herbert. The same year the king entered Rheims and defeated archbishop Hugh, the son of Herbert.
281:, in an effort to appease Herbert II, Seulf solemnly promised Herbert II that he could nominate his successor. In 923, Count Herbert took the bold step of imprisoning King
289:, he acquired for his second son Hugh (then five years old) the archbishopric of Rheims. Herbert took the additional step of sending emissaries to Rome to
562:
250:. Herbert inherited the titles of his father and in 907 : count of Soissons, count of Vermandois, including the positions of
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419:
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317:, allowed him to restore his domains (except Rheims and Laon) in exchange for his submission to King Rudolph.
259:
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Histoire de
Beauvais et de ses institutions communales jusqu'au commencement du XVe siècle
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to gain his approval, which that pope gave in 926. On his election young Hugh was sent to
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In the Manner of the Franks: Hunting, Kingship, and
Masculinity in Early Medieval Europe
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This dramatic report of
Herbert II’s death seems to be fiction. It comes from Folcwin’s
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Marignan, Albert; Platon, Jean
Georges; Wilmotte, Maurice; Prou, Maurice, eds. (1906).
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230:. He was the first to exercise power over the territory that became the province of
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entitling him to the income of those estates. His marriage with a daughter of king
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Norgate, Kate (1890). "Odo of
Champagne, Count of Blois and Tyrant of Burgundy".
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became the new archbishop of Reims. Herbert II then lost, in three years, Vitry,
33:
Herbert II de
Vermandois hanged on the orders of Louis IV d'Outremer (fictitious)
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King Charles was the godfather to one of Herbert II's sons.
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983:(in French). Librairie Ancienne Honore Champion, Editeur.
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The Jews of Medieval France: The Community of Champagne
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The Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians, 751-987
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Fanning, Steven; Bachrach, Bernard S., eds. (2011).
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724:. Geneva: Mégariotis Reprint. pp. 10–12.
274:on the death of his relative, Count Bernard.
372:. Together they had the following children:
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356:Herbert II died on 23 February 943 at
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974:. University of Pennsylvania Press.
936:Death and life in the tenth century
368:Herbert married Adele, daughter of
351:
13:
14:
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934:Duckett, Eleanor Shipley (1967).
603:Deeds of the Abbots of St. Bertin
313:. The intervention of his ally,
27:
963:The Five Books of the Histories
938:. University of Michigan Press.
625:
608:
595:
420:Adalbert I, Count of Vermandois
22:Herbert II, Count of Vermandois
988:McKitterick, Rosamond (1999).
956:. University of Toronto Press.
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945:France in the Making 843-1180
720:Labande, Léon-Honoré (1978).
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376:Herbert and Adele's Children
1044:10th-century French nobility
487:Count of Omois, married 951
270:. He acquired the county of
16:10th-century French nobleman
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859:Fanning & Bachrach 2011
801:Fanning & Bachrach 2011
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762:Fanning & Bachrach 2011
540:William I, Duke of Normandy
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523:Luitgarde of Vermandois
309:, Château-Thierry, and
244:Herbert I of Vermandois
242:Herbert was the son of
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208:Herbert I of Vermandois
965:. The Clarendon Press.
929:. Hambledon Continuum.
925:Bradbury, Jim (2007).
1010:Taitz, Emily (1994).
555:Odo I, Count of Blois
141:Saint-Quentin, France
752:, p. 12-13 n 1.
573:Archbishop of Reims
542:; married secondly,
505:Robert of Vermandois
465:Arnulf I of Flanders
437:Gerberge of Lorraine
394:Eudes of Vermandois
358:Saint-Quentin, Aisne
279:Archbishop of Rheims
126:Robert of Vermandois
551:Theobald I of Blois
453:Adela of Vermandois
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220:Count of Vermandois
198:Carolingian dynasty
166:Adele of Vermandois
73:Count of Vermandois
1029:Herbertien dynasty
1014:. Greenwood Press.
861:, p. 21 n.77.
674:, p. 360-361.
563:Hugh of Vermandois
463:Married 934 Count
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370:Robert I of France
264:Robert I of France
182:Hugh of Vermandois
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472:Herbert 'the Old'
326:William Longsword
228:Count of Soissons
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330:duke of Normandy
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538:married 940
491:daughter of
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909:Glaber 1989
750:Glaber 1989
517:and Troyes
497:Charles III
387:Death Date
291:Pope John X
283:Charles III
256:St. Quentin
248:Charlemagne
87:Predecessor
54:Predecessor
1039:943 deaths
1023:Categories
992:. Longman.
708:Taitz 1994
644:References
620: 950
531: 915
480: 910
428: 915
401: 910
384:Birth Date
297:to study.
260:St. Médard
216:Herbert II
162:Adalbert I
101:Adalbert I
636:Flanders.
252:Lay abbot
232:Champagne
178:Luitgarde
122:Successor
97:Successor
91:Herbert I
64:Successor
58:Herbert I
435:Married
334:Louis IV
311:Soissons
272:Beauvais
919:Sources
631:It was
411:and of
344:, near
295:Auxerre
287:Rudolph
193:Dynasty
117:907–943
82:907–943
49:907–930
413:Vienne
364:Family
338:Otto I
303:Artaud
226:, and
204:Father
174:Robert
159:Eudes
146:Spouse
580:Notes
445:]
441:[
381:Name
346:Liège
186:Guy I
155:Issue
149:Adele
114:Reign
79:Reign
67:Guy I
46:Reign
570:962
567:920
535:978
511:967
484:980
460:960
457:910
432:987
405:946
342:Visé
324:and
307:Laon
258:and
238:Life
136:Died
340:in
254:of
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