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course. His misuse of pronouns is not accidental; it was mean to impersonate the person in question. In my own case, he has literally followed me around online and reverted routine contributions and ones opposed by nobody else, even though he has never edited those pages before or had shown any previous interest in them. He has personally discouraged more than two dozen people from editing on
Knowledge, fixating and zeroing in on people to harass them for reasons that are unclear. I hope other people read this so we can take actions to ban him. The only reason it has not happened previously is that people feel bullied or just have given up. And in his editing, he posts a ton of unsubstantiated material, that does not meet Wikpedia standards, to make people with left of center politics look good, while deleting even mundane information about anyone not on the left, even if the information is accurate, fair, neutral, and well sourced etc. For example, he has put a ton of poorly sourced unsubstantiated material on Rudy Giulian's page. When I added a couple of setences to the same Giuliani wiki, simply saying that a particular page catipalted Giuliani to national attention, he reverted it, without explanation-- apparently because it showed Giuliani is a slightly favorable light. Knowledge is not supposed to manipulated for one's political agenda, and in doing so, engage in the bullying of other contributors or editors. Anyone can just read his talk pages, one after the other, complaint after complaint about this one person. And that is with him often DELETING unfavorable comments so nobody reads them! Knowledge should be a safe place for everyone! The incident with transphobia and calling a trans person an "IT" was not a one-time incident. Someone should jump in and intervene.
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American Politics these days and in some noticeboard, talk page and policy areas that relate to consensus, DS protocols, and other aspects of the editing process that have been matters of concern for many of the AP editors. To the extent that KB has worked in those areas, we have overlapped over the past year or so. When that's happened recently I have avoided interacting with KB or doing anything else that might appear unfair to KB. The stuff on that Trump draft was really inconsequential, and as I said previously the draft is not likely to see the light of day in anything near its current condition. It's king of a dead end, so I don't think it's going to see much activity from anyone. Once I realized that, I stopped working on it.
894:- The personal reference to "it" was inappropriate, and I should have changed it when KB mentioned it. The other, as I said above, I did not think of as a personal reference. Because I believe KB has not indicated a gender preference, I took pains to use no pronouns and to call KB by those initials. As you may have seen on my talk page, I am indifferent as to the gender editors attach to me. I have a record of NPOV and civility on gender-related issues. Please let me know if you wish me to make any further statement at the AE thread. If not, my apologies and thank you for pointing this out. I assume that my edit will constitute a sufficient personal response to KB's mention of the matter at AE.
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at early-stage or neglected articles. We know the draft was in bad shape because it just got deleted. My edits there did not prevent or discourage KB from finding valid material that might bring that deleted draft up to KEEP standards. I suppose KB could not reinstate text I deleted, but even if I had been mistaken in those edits, they were not the reason the article didn't pass muster. I don't see anything contentious in the few edits of my participation there. Most of what KB appears to have done was cut and pasting text from other Trump articles, but without any context, sources, or narratives that would form the basis of a standalone article on its chosen topic.
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Ansari's "public profile". Nothing much happened. The noteworthy event was the woman's having held up her personal reactions to public scrutiny on the expectation that people would find them somehow similar to incidents of sexual misconduct. The public reaction was only that "bad conduct" is not "misconduct" and both she and Ansari were viewed as having bungled a rather innocuous interaction that left them both temporarily upset at having handled it poorly.
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among a group of editors on talk, or KB mounts an RfC to resolve the question. In neither case is there an IBAN concern. I removed a small part of what KB added to the article. If that article is ever to see mainspace, it will be from additions of well-sourced content directly relevant to the article topic and organized in such a way as to describe and explain the topic. Nothing I have done or would do can stop KB from improving that article.
918:, if I'm using that right ... because I find it hard to imagine making such a mistake innocently myself. Hard for me to imagine the mindset. I don't need any further statement from you at AE, I can't speak for others. Just as a suggestion (rather than having "civility" imposed on you by an admin), just an FYI, in your shoes I'd probably say, at AE, something along the lines of "I'm sorry KB, that was very rude of me". --
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2012:, and - most importantly - when things are becoming heated, ask for help. You know about RfCs, ANI and the rest. "I have an issue with this editor because I think they are trying to give undue weight to X" is absolutely fine. "This editor is a POV-pushing idiot" not so much, right? Email one of your friends to let of steam, that is fine.
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holding up a big red sign that says "I AM TRANSPHOBIC! I BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT CONFORM TO TRADITIONAL GENDER IDENTITIES ARE NOT PEOPLE AT ALL AND DO NOT DESERVE THE BASIC RESPECT ACCORDED TO ALL HUMAN BEINGS!!" I'm sure you don't actually feel that way, so unless that's the message you're wanting to send out, don't call people "it".
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editing. Before that, going back to 2016, some editors left because they didn't like the extra rules standing between them and their preferred content. Some editors prefer an environment where they are more likely to get their way through aggressiveness and intimidation, fully exploiting the lax enforcement of behavior policy, and
2422:, but are rarely reliable for statements of fact." I just outlined the opinions of the very subject matter of this wiki. Consortium News itself has already been previously cited (see reference 2), and it contained the letter in its entirety. If mainstream RS won't print it, and it's an opinion piece, what's the issue?
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I'm not very familiar with the policies and practices relating to block appeals. It's not clear to me why my name would come up in the recent threads relating to the one week block. Close to a dozen Admins and others have tried to tell KB to move on, and I really hope that will happen. I edit largely
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It was a well-reasoned and documented request and if you disagreed, you should have spoken up. Nobody disagreed. He makes disruptive edits and wastes editor resources on discussions like this one here. This article has been bleeding editors for months, and you may soon end up being talk page mayor of
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I think we see more or less eye-to-eye on this. The difference is I have largely given up, while you are sacrificing your health and sanity to a mission that should not have fallen to you. Basically, one objection is a coin-toss, and 2 or more needs resolution. From the candidate statements at Arbcom
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You have already been banned TWICE, once for a year, for your conduct towards other
Knowledge contributors. If you molest or bother me again or follow me around online, I am going to learn everything humanly possible about Knowledge's guidelines and standards and seek to have you banned permanently.
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Please explain why you deleted and then reverted my edit pointing out the Podell was
Giuliani's first major case that catapaulted him to national prominence? That would seem relevant for a 12,000 word plus Wiki bio of him. I also quote the Washington Post saying that the Congressman changed his plea
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OK, fair enough. Normally I'd take this to the talk page of the article in question (as you suggested), but since this isn't really a content dispute (rather a minor phrasing disagreement between two users), I don't want to clutter up the article's talk page for no reason. I'll just leave my proposal
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I understand, and that's why I said thanks. But the accusation has to be stricken regardless of whether it was justified because it lacks evidence (let alone the "serious" evidence required by the policy). To discuss the merit is to suggest that it's ok to lodge justified serious accusations without
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if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard.Ā Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the
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Of course everybody's leaving, since they were only there for political reasons and there is no longer any
President Trump to prop up or bring down. Whether it was to push their POV or prevent "the other side" from pushing their POV, those are two sides of the same coin and neither is good Knowledge
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You have absolutely no right to revert my contribution unless you provide some explanation. I will raise the issue on the
Giuliani talk page, but until then, I ask that you not unilaterally take it upon yourself to revert the material again. You should be the one to take it up on the Giuliani page
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had mischaracterized or exaggerated an "innocuous" interaction. You provided no sources for this statement and it sounds like pure conjecture. Let me remind you of that this a living person, and suggesting that a person is un-credible or misrepresented an accusation about sexual assault is a blatant
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What garnered the brief attention in the blogosphere and a few press articles was the tenuous use of #MeToo narratives to describe the woman's having failed to extricate herself from an unwelcome situation before she got to tears. None of the commentary concludes that this woman impacted or damaged
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Valereee, I do not agree with you that anything I did limits KBs ability to edit and improve that article. For example, in the case of the cut-and-paste material I trimmed, this is ordinary course editing. KB adds content, it is reverted. Either KB generates consensus in favor of the disputed textg
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Hello, Valereee. I don't think that's a sensible way to characterize those edits. Taking a quick look at my edits on that page: They weren't particularly significant or contentious relative to the problems at the draft. They were the sort of paring and cleanup one normally does -- and I often do --
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Well, I don't want to accuse you of acting in bad faith, so forgive me, but what it kind of looked like to me was you going into a draft in a way that I'm having a hard time characterizing as anything but a series of edits that prevented KB from being able to effectively participate there. I'm sure
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I am disappointed you would not realize by now that I have just shy of a dozen paid subscriptions to the top RS on politics. Also disappointed you would make such a fuss without even reading the cited source. You will find the subscription fee well worth the cost. Cheers, it is cocktail hour in the
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Getting back to what we discussed yesterday, this really is why we need to have editors discuss changes on talk before editing the article. Most veteran editors know when an edit may be controversial and routinely use talk where they have reasonable expectation of some objection. That editor, as I
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Hi, as you've probably noticed, I've closed the above complaint with a 2-week topic ban from Julian
Assange. In the future I highly recommend just self-reverting when you find yourself in violation of a rule. Not only can it save you headache, but it lowers the tension at the article and talk page,
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I did say that, and I did learn from the experience of the AE complaint. I learned that my second revert violated the rules, and that's all I meant in that UTP comment. I don't need a month (or so) away from Trump to absorb that learning, but thanks. Otherwise, all I learned was how it feels to be
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As to your conduct towards me more generally, I plan to do everything in my power to formally complain about your actions and seek disciplinary action. I have done screen shorts of more than two dozen people who have complained about you, and your issues specifically with transgendered individuals
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On a tangential note, if you have decided to no longer work on the Trump article, are you willing to agree that KB can work there freely, and that anything they do that would undo something you've done is fine? The reason I ask is that it's very difficult for someone with a 1-way to be absolutely
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who repeatedly presumes to instruct other established editors on proper discussion protocol that has zero connection to PAGs. I've been your target long enough, enough times, and after repeated complaints, that I am in fact increasingly upset about it. If you think my comments are off-point and a
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SPECIFICO is topic-banned from editing articles and other pages relating to the Ludwig von Mises
Institute or persons associated with it, either living or deceased. This topic-ban does not extend to articles concerning Austrian economics but not related to the Ludwig von Mises Institute; however,
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Came here from AE; I'm most amazed at how this is not the first time you've called someone "it" and been told that referring to people as "it" is wrong. Let me add to the chorus of voices with a friendly heads up: When you use the pronoun "it" to refer to people (anyone in any context), it's like
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First, if I intended to direct a personal criticism toward you, I would have said "you", not "editors". Second, I "proxies" was purely descriptive, not expressing any aspect of enablement, collusion, or other inappropriate purpose. I tend to speak rather bluntly, so believe me, if I had anything
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All your edits appear to be removals of content, which KB cannot, per the limitations of their iban, question or revert. I am very uncomfortable with this just as a general situation. I think it would be best if when articles of clear interest to KB that you've shown no previous interest in come
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Provided an editor goes directly to talk upon challenge-by-reversion, there is no need to "talk first". That's the whole point of BRD, since what would need prior discussion is entirely a matter of opinion and perspective. Trying to make other principles coexist with BRD is precisely what causes
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bio before Kolya
Butternut copied it to the draft article.I know that your interaction ban now goes both ways. I don't want to stir the pot and I would like to refrain from commenting this further or making further edits to that specific draft article. Just please be more careful in the future.
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You are coming off increasingly as erratic and unfocused. The thread was at consensus on the shorter version when several of us tried to tweak the wording. Not the meaning, the wording. Nobody disputes your right to raise any concerns at any time. In this age, if you wished us to step back and
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This was well closed IMO. SPECIFICO, you have earned a certain amount of tolerance, as all of us belligerent old hands have, but there's a very strong current right now against those of us who are robust in our critique of what we see as nonsense, and the basis of that current is actually very
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I think it takes fair amount of audacity to first remove a statement clearing Guiliani of any wrongdoing with a summary that says "There is no reason to imagine Giuliani was involved in any crime related to these individuals", and then to restore the material about his appointees claiming the
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This particular user, Specifico, has a long long history of bullying people on Knowledge. One can just go back and look at his OWN past talk pages. He reverts, threatens, and even stalks users online. That he would have inappropriately harassed a trans person and is transphobia is par for the
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by the former NYT editor Bari Weiss. These are not reliable sources for what happened: these are reliable for the opinions of those authors only. And SPECIFICO is rehashing them, without attribution, and in his own words. Nowhere in any source do I see a suggestion that the woman "bungled" the
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Also note that that article is subject to the following restriction - "You must not reinstate any challenged (via reversion) edits without obtaining consensus on the talk page of this article" - you seem to be in violation of that, which is likely to result in sanctions unless you revert .
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Posted on Sandstein's talk page, which is on my watch list. I am active on Trump-related pages, so I had a look and did a few edits there on things that I thought needed work. But it is a post AfD draft as I understand it, and it doesn't appear to be improving from what I can tell. What's
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Is The Spectator a solid source? I didn't think it was. Do you have any advice about the archive pages? I am not very good with computers or code, and I'm too old to get good at it now. I basically copied your format for the talk page header but mine only stays on the 1 archive page.
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Nevermind, I don't want to get distracted; this outdented thread might make people miss the previous comment I made which includes diffs which I believe show you are very familiar with singular they pronouns. I'm sure you wouldn't deny being referred to by "they" many, many times.
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edit - with the edit summary "unexplained content removal" - I explained why I removed it, both in my own edit summary - "article about Barr, not Trump", as well as on the talk page - where you are conspicuously absent. Please undo your revert, made based on an apparent oversight.
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This editor was doing exactly what I asked him not to do -- making substantive changes in meaning that would need reverts and discussion. But I don't re-revert. The problem is that those removals of his would, according to many Admins, not be considered "reverts" per my section
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Actually it is not. You are making (silly) behavioral accusations against me. Those would be resolved at ANI or Arbcom Enforcement. BLPN is for content and sourcing issues, such as the ones you do not appear to understand. I think this thread has more or less run its course.
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Tech question: Do you have a paid subscription to WaPo, or do you know of a different easy way to access their content? I have a way to get to it, but it involves a Firefox "private window" and a WaPo sign-in for every accessĀ ā an extremely cumbersome thing to do very often.
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Talk pages are where important topics can be discussed. It is not a "conspiracy theory" that the US Senate investigated and issued a report on this matter. Editors are editing the article without any real discussion. The article is already famous for not being written from a
427:. Please do not post any further comments of this nature, and I would encourage you to strike this remark. I may seek redress at ANI to have the remarks removed, from you or anyone else, that continue to cast doubt on the allegations without reference to sources. Thank you.
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are sacrificing your health and sanity. It seems we're in a resignation/apathy competition. But I wasn't the one involved in a disruptive (even if very brief) battle of re-reverts, inadvertently exceeding 3RR. In my view that's a product of my superior resignation/apathy.
1854:, which amount to an attempt to control the parameters of discussion. My comments were directly responsive to your bolded comment, which was "the matter at hand" at that point. I will "share my concerns" when they occur to me and when I feel they are relevant. Thank you. ā
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from not guilty to guilty after Giuliani sharply criticized him, displaying his court room skills. I have no brief for Giuliani nor would vote for him, but these two facts are both relevant to his bio and are neutral. Thank you for whatever explanation you might provide.
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works well when you use it in good faith, no matter how many times in 24 hours you do so. Like anything else, it can be used as a weapon in bad faith. That problem is not with BRD but with those users. Promote BRD to guideline and deal with the bad faith users who abuse
2604:- Well I'm afraid you're not in chargeĀ ā as I said, nobody and everybody isĀ ā and they were not required to do as you asked. You don't have consensus support for your views of how things should operate; if you did, that would be a great use of a consensus list entry. ā
1806:, I believe so, but in case further clarity is needed, I acknowledge that one of my edits broke the BRD arbitration remedy and will be more careful to avoid doing so again. I only had the 1RR remedy in mind and failed to correctly understand and follow the BRD one. Ā ā
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If you wish to revert anything of mine, please go to the talk page before you unilaterally do so-- you should not being doing that as a beginning point when so many people feel harassed by you and with two bans already enforced against you by Knowledge's editors.
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Consensus required: All editors must obtain consensus on the talk page of this article before reinstating any edits that have been challenged (via reversion). This includes making edits similar to the ones that have been challenged. If in doubt, don't make the
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should SPECIFICO edit problematically in the broader area, the topic-ban may be broadened if necessary through the discretionary sanctions. SPECIFICO may request the lifting or modification of this topic-ban not less than one year from the close of this case.
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SPECIFICO - I can certainly understand the backlash you're getting from some of my esteemed colleagues, and hope an acceptable compromise can be reached. How about using "(s)he" or is "they" a better choice? I'll be first to admit my ignorance about proper
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These are not aspersions. I have my own personal experiences. You called a trans woman an "it". That is simply fact. You have been following me around online reverting virtually everything I post no matter how mundane, or insignificant. Please leave me
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Got it, will change to "they" - one instance was referring to the user account, but I see the first was to KB, who has objected, so I will change to "they". I mostly refer to them as KB, they being of unknown gender. Thanks for the note.
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that was unintentional, but it's kind of a concern. I'm not sure how they can try to improve it after your series of edits three weeks ago. They're at a massive disadvantage when editing with someone with whom they have a 1-way iban.
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The edits were explained in my summaries. Your claim of SYNTH was incorrect, but at any rate you should not immediately redo your edit when it is reverted. I suggest you restore the text and present any concerns on the article talk
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You are quick to accuse me of a BLP violation over a content disagreement, yet you put out extremely inappropriate and unattributed conjecture about a sexual assault accuser without any indication of remorse. This is disappointing.
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one of the targets of a lot of cynical nastiness at AE/ARCA. I expect to stay away from all articles for awhile, anyway, while I ponder whether I want to continue editing Knowledge. Once I cut the cord, it will remain cut. ā
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No, no, that's the wrong narrative. There is no plausible deniability. SPECIFICO knows what it means; knows that it hurts. I'm not saying they are transphobic, but I am saying they will use transphobic language as a weapon.
1605:: I have warned Cathradgenations against further harassment of SPECIFICO, such as the above, and told them not to post here again. SPECIFICO, for the sake of symmetry, you had probably better not post on their page either.
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recently? I've previously asked you not to follow me on Knowledge, and didn't raise the issue after your edit at Kiki Camarena, but now I'm curious. I don't see any record of your editing there or on this topic before.
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SPECIFICO did not reference any specific piece or attribute the views in the above comment: those were pure expressions of opinion by an editor. I see that there are commentators who have defended Aziz as documented in
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Hard to take "I don't think it's a good idea for editors to act as proxies for KB by airing or discussing a litany of grievances on various pages" as anything else. Totally willing to listen to explanations, though.
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Can you help me set up archive pages? My poor page 1 is overloaded and I'm completely unable to understand how to add more pages. I'm looking forward to what number 2 has to offer but I have no idea how to do that.
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As I said on the Trump talk page, you have often edited against recent explicit consensus, wasting all the time and attention it takes to undo the damage. You often IDHT, making things worse, like the past day or
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He said on his talk page that he's willing to learn from the experience of this AE complaint, and I think a page block of a month or so might help give him the breathing room to return refreshed and ready to
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You should not have re-done your edit without agreement on the article talk page. Please undo it and present your rationale there, where interested editors will see it. You can copy this thread if you like.
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and that community has not been an isolated incident. Please stop following me around online or Knowledge. Please do not edit pages because I do, and only those pages which you have a personal interest in.
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I appreciate your good faith efforts to address KBs concern, but at this point I don't think it's a good idea for editors to act as proxies for KB by airing or discussing a litany of grievances on various
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In this very talk page above someone complains about him "(mis)gendering". This is after being familiar enough with gender topics to participate in a Sexology arbitration request about "TERFs" in 2014
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If it isn't too much trouble, I'd kindly ask you to add it to the lead (given the attention the article will be getting in the coming days, and the discretionary sanctions ArbCom has imposed on it, I
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It's not a good idea to say "expressed opposition to" instead of "opposed. If you have a better tweak, I'm glad to look at it and perhaps substitute. Feel free to propose on the article talk page.
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certain sub-thread is unconstructive, do what other editors do: just stop responding. I don't think I need your schooling on proper discussion participation, but I think you need mine. ā
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and ethically wrong? I know you'll do the right thing, but it's been on the page for seven hours already, and I'd appreciate it stricken without too much more delay. Thanks! ā
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There is a pattern of misogyny here that I am experiencing personally, and that he is exhibiting at articles. (I did verify his gender, not that only men can act this way.
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I recall numerous threads in which the issue has been discussed. I quickly found 3 of them. I believe many others occurred on the talk pages of various Admins and Arbs.
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That is the opinion of two commentators who had no first-hand knowledge of the incident. Neither are reliable sources for anything about the incident. You are confusing
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Don't make personal remarks or assumptions about other editors. It's presumptuous and disrespectful. In most cases we know only our fellow user's edits, as seen on WP.
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are not OK on Knowledge. Also, I believe you've been asked over and over not to mark your edits "m" for "minor" unless they fit our definition of Minor Edit. Thanks.
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Valereee, I tried to say that in a way that made it clear I was not questioning your good intentions. Please don't take that as an personal accusation or complaint.
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Sorry, lost track of this. It looks resolved now though, right?
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