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storm history-only articles. I've said it before, I'll say it again, the key to articles is having enough information. If there's not enough information, don't make the article. If there is, then make it. If the season is new, and there is a consensus that having all storms have articles would be better for the season article and
Knowledge in general, then all articles would be fine. 2004 could be an example of this. So far, every storm but Karl, Lisa, Nicole, and Otto don't have articles. There's probably enough information outside of the season article to justify their articles, and each are fairly interesting storms. Lisa could have a records section (one of the longest times to reach hurricane status), Nicole could have Subtropical Storm info (first named subtropical storm that didn't become tropical), and Otto could have out-of-season stuff. Also, Karl could simply have a long storm history. The same goes from 2003 back to 1999. 1998 might be a little hard, due to the fact it had 6 fish storms, but it's possible. 1997 is probably too far and couldn't work. SS1, Ana, Bill, Claudette, Fabian, and Grace barely had any impact, and their storm histories would all be pretty short. 1996 through 1993 could possibly work, but there's too little info on most storms. That's just my opinion. --
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California hurricanes). Bahamas and Bermuda could also each get one, though finding good information for there could be a potential problem. One page could be for all of South America. While a page might seem useless, 18 tropical cyclone effected the continent since 1900, including the South Atlantic. Another page could be for all of Europe, which could cover every tropical and once-tropical storm to effect the continent. Thailand, China, Taiwan, N/S Korea, and Japan should all get list articles, with appropriate adjustments. The Indian Ocean is where it gets tricky. India and Myanmar could work, though I don't know about the northwestern Indian. Australia and Indonesia also deserve their own, but split ups might be needed.
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Islands, Windward Islands, and Central America (which itself could be split up by country). For those that affected more than one area (like Georges off the top of my head), they could just be listed in each article with their respective effects. The Canadian hurricanes, per the discussion on its talk page, would be split up into Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Quebec, and Ontario, with the main article still in tact as a quasi-disambiguation page/overall info. Should New York be included in New England hurricanes? Few, if any hurricanes have effected only New York.
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Florida effected another area. While it could just be repeated, some storms wouldn't have enough information to justify having it at both places. In addition, what would the defining lines be? On the other hand, if we split it up by time periods, what would be in the main article? Personally, I prefer the time periods, by having a
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and its subcategories already provide sensible "lists" that are as good or better than the simple "Storm X hit location Y on date Z" lists provided by some of those articles. True list articles should be aimed at eventually becoming featured lists, not just at creating such "stub" categorical lists.
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I think that's all of them. However, given that we've already started doing some unusual ones, we should discuss which others to add or change around. Of the existing ones, I think that the
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Florida? If we want to make it like the Featured Lists, it would simply be too long. Two options have been discussed; split it up by area (Florida keys, south Florida, Gold Coast, Florida panhandle) or time periods. Each has its problems. Most storms that effected one of the
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had that idea and added season track maps from 1990 to 1994 for the EPAC. I think they look great, and having that sort of track map for all season pages would be awesome. The
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That's certainly an interesting concept but that layout is flawed. It lists less relevant information to the storm, is (to me) less readable and too colorful compared to the existing one and less flexible (theres a reason that it was expanded to include 1 min, 10 min and gusts). Nevermind some more
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OK then. As long as you don't mind, the entire track map works. I personally think a generated map for 2005 would be a lot better, but that's just me. First, the NHC map curves, and leaves out part of Delta, Ophelia, and Maria. Second, the NHC only uses one color for extratropical. A generated map
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do. I think the background in the track map is a mercator projection as that makes programming easier. However it can be quite distorting, the NHCs choice of projection is probably the ideal one for showing "typical" storms (not Vince). The image I've made through the track map generator is quite
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Off the top of my head, I know Tropical Storm Doria from 1971 is the costliest U.S. without an article, followed by Beryl (1994) and I think Isbell (1964). However, a more interesting list would be the costliest tropical cyclone articles that are not at least GA class. That would be Wilma ($ 18
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article should be created, with a possible older storms page. I think the Bangladesh cyclone pages should be merged. The Philippine page has problems similar to Florida. Maybe due to the very high number of storms, there can be a lot of sub-articles in the timeline, with one main page covering
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Yea. That sounds cool. But I was hoping we could start doing articles on all EPac storms for 2006, like we do in the Atlantic. It would be hard, but I'm sure we could do it. And typhoons in 2006 wouldn't have much trouble, Jelawat, Ewiniar, and Bilis have impact info, so I'm sure we could make
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That would really cool. Good idea Icelandic Hurricane! The only problem I can see is that it would be a little long (NH has 258 articles, we have 697). We could split it up by area; having Atlantic, EPAC, WPAC, NIO, Southern Hemispher, and other. If that were the case, it wouldn't be too long.
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A poorly written stub for a fish storm should be merged unless it was decently written or a little longer. Seasonal articles are difficult, you're right. However, we should decide on some criteria for season articles, so we know what to do. At the very least, I propose that A class for season
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which could serve as a disambiguator as well as listing notable inland storms. Mexico has the problem of too many storms. Options include an Atlantic page and a Pacific page, splitting it by time periods, or splitting up by area (List of Yucatan Peninsula hurricanes, List of Mainland Mexico
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As I see it the biggest pros to the generated map are consistency with storm tracks and more detailed information. They aren't perfect by any means though, the biggest con is the fact they are much larger files, the NHC file is 100KB smaller than the generated one; but is much higher res.
1667:? Hmm, a storm crossed the East Pac staying at Cat 1 for over 10 days without ever being higher or lower strength, OK if you say so... I'd sooner believe that 2005's Lee was a hurricane. I think thats the worst best track data I've seen for any storm (though I suspect I'll find worse).--
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is the disambig. However most names are not that simple, for example Katrina. There were several Atlantic/E Pac storms (in addition to 2005's) and one southern hemisphere cyclone called Katrina. This means that the disambig is placed at the location neutral
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shows the intensity changes for extratropical storms. They also only use red for hurricanes, while the generated map shows every category. The NHC does have the start places, names, and dates, though. Still, you should upload it and then we can decide. --
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hurricane season than the 1969 Atlantic hurricane season, after all there is more information available on Tropical Storm Lidia (2005) than on Tropical Storm Eve (1969). This is waaay too rule-crufty, everything should be done on a case-by-case basis
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be mature. The only ones which can really claim that are 2004AHS and 2005AHS at this time. Ignoring activity, the more recent the season the better the information. On that basis I would rather see articles for all storms for the 2005
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storms of the 2004 and 2005 Atlantic hurricane seasons to use the "new" color scheme. Any criticisms, bring them up now before I do the rest of the Atlantic track maps. PS Ophelia is updated accordingly.--
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Ana, Anna - Should these two similar names share a common dab page, confusion is very likely between these two names.
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leave out specialized categories, such as severe tropical storm, super typhoon, and major hurricane from track maps.
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That's great! We should write the grading rules for seasons and impacting storms on the main WikiProject page.
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We have a lot of these articles. Should we continue around the entire world? This is what we have so far;
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So far: 2003 (meets everything but 4), 2004 (Meets all), 1998 (meets all), 1995 (meets everything but 1).
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Cool. Is anyone else opposed to those simple guidelines for storms that had a significant impact section?
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2) All of those articles must be GA-class or higher. (Such as 2003 which has 4 sof its 8 at the level.)
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They could also be a different shape, such as a star. I do think that they should be separated, though.
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Please add new tracks to the storms.pl file. Send me patches for the changes you've made. —
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a fact that they were impacted they should be removed from the list. --
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template and I'll get round to it. And another question, I showed what
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List of most costliest tropical cyclones without an article
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2442:- Re: above
2341:Hello all,
1760:landfalling
1178:Track maps!
155:No I didn't
36:This is an
2781:Thegreatdr
2645:Thegreatdr
2364:John van v
1222:Storm type
95:Archive 10
3000:Nilfanion
2950:Nilfanion
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645:Disambigs
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90:Archive 9
85:Archive 8
79:Archive 7
73:Archive 6
68:Archive 5
60:Archive 1
2948:think?--
2824:(samtal)
2813:íslenska
2802:(samtal)
2791:íslenska
2372:contribs
2360:unsigned
2302:(samtal)
2291:íslenska
2084:Reub2000
2018:(samtal)
2007:íslenska
1979:1997 AHS
1946:(samtal)
1935:íslenska
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1762:storms.
1636:Over 500
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1528:íslenska
1504:Interiot
1390:(samtal)
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1216:Unknown
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1033:(samtal)
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942:(samtal)
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902:(samtal)
891:íslenska
824:undo).--
455:section.
395:(samtal)
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114:(samtal)
2760:another
2240:subpage
1821:Pacific
1273:shapes.
1190:Map key
821:greatly
524:quality
421:On the
39:archive
3028:jdorje
2708:jdorje
2478:&
2289:Cool.
1783:Golbez
1661:superb
1587:jdorje
1567:jdorje
1548:lol.--
1508:Essjay
2979:Maria
2975:Marie
2576:Beryl
2572:Delta
2545:think
2045:could
1470:extra
1407:named
1357:every
1170:Sandy
16:<
3033:talk
3026:. —
3004:talk
2977:and
2973:and
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2969:and
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2954:talk
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2883:The
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