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country - and is subsequently moving articles - Suharto and Soebandrio so far. I have tried to explain from my perspective where I think a non-indonesian speaking user of wikipedia needs help if they do not know about the spelling change - might just need the old spelling in the first sentence of the article at least. I would much prefer some of our other project members to offer their thoughts on the usage of the pre-1972 spelling in persons names (or not) as I am obviously just one user questioning changes - do all names in this Indonesian wikipedia project that have soe- get changed to su, do we acknowledge that some older names might still be known by the soe rather than the su? I would appreciate some feedback on this, as I might be wrong in my bothering the editor - and would like to see whether I need to apologise for my interfering with his cleaning up things, or otherwise find that we have indeed have an issue over the variant spelling issue...
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exceptionally hard work on maintaining good faith and positive consensus building in editing in this area (for instance before creating templates or categories - actually putting it to this Indonesian project in a responsible and sharing manner before creating over the heads of the Indonesian project) - it will have to be evident (good faith and willingness to listen to others points of view with some receptivity) to create an environment where there is a genuine intereste in collaborating! Lack of local knowledge of Indonesian subjects seems to be no problem for some milhist editors - it is hoped that they work in this area with the highest level of intelligent wikipedian civility and co-operation. Here is hoping something positive comes from such an adventure.
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people and places in the past. The problem, incidentally, is particularly acute with the spelling of Indonesian Chinese names -- there is a bit of a tendency now to use Pinyin, which often looks completely different from the old names (the names that the people themselves used). The Indonesian convention is to spell everything in ED, but that need not apply to English usage. The best solution is probably to use old spelling for names located in the past; new spelling for more recent names, with new spelling prevailing where there is a conflict. Incidentally, I think it's wrong to change Nusa Kambangan to Kambangan island. Although Nusa means 'island', where it is used it is part of the name in a way that 'pulau' is not.
4056:, the word department is appended everywhere. Now, when you work in the project you _allways_ now how to reference departments and provinces. I can be on a page whereever and see imediatly when something is linked wrongly. Everybody can fix without visiting the target article. Now the people have a much easier time in linking correctly. I would really like, that here in WP Indonesia you would be able to enjoy the same benefits. I think in the long run, there will be indeed full articles for every regencies. Case by case takes much more time. You have to go to the footer template, to lists, to related articles. I think it would be better to minimize the workload and making a joint effort ( 4660:
to alert Indonesia project members at this talk page first, before makjng substantial changes. The project might not 'own" (And this line of discussion is quite deliberately creating a misunderstanding) anything - the project has a talk page - and it is the place where the process by which editors who do not belong to the project - or who appear to not even know Indonesian geography - that they can check/share/discuss about a possible change - to check that it is something that is relevant, or agreed by consensus to be a positive and constructive change to contents of the project. It must also be noted that the above user is now blocked from editing.
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of jealous vandalism? Do they think that kamus.net is the only online dictionary worthy of consideration? IndoDic contains 2 full dictionaries of 59,000 (eng-indo) and 51,000 (indo-english) words. Indo words are arranged in true alphabetical order, including most affixes. Word family listings are available for both English and Indonesain words. These dictionaries took 8 years to research and compile. They are freely available for learners of Bahasa Indonesia. Hard- and soft-cover books are published by Gramedia and available at bookstores all over Indonesia. The links to IndoDic.com need to remain. Otherwise, I'll have to continually re-edit this page.
290:? It would be also be helpful to newcomers to provide a section which lists resources for getting started, and in particular Indonesia specific resources whether they be on wikipedia or elsewhere. Lastly, in order for the project to prosper we are desperately in need of additional editors. Can we put in some effort to market wikipedia and recruit contributors from among people with knowledge of Indonesia - universities (both inside and outside Indonesia), bloggers who write about Indonesia, expat clubs/societies (both inside and outside Indonesia), newspapers in Indonesia, etc? ( 5188:, and that seems to be more typical of uses in other countries (though there are lots of exceptions). There are also situations where a city/town of the same name exists in more than one province/regency (probably - I don't know any off the top of my head). In that case we should use the name of the highest level that distinguishes them (i.e. provinces if they are different, otherwise regencies). We may also want to look at discussions on the Wikiprojects for Islands, Mountains, and Rivers (I'm pretty sure they each have one) and see if they have suggested naming conventions. 1101:
each other, so there is the potential to remove the "Name and location" heading and move location to geography (3) Regarding Borneo, etc. I would rename the province parameter "admin_divisions" (or similiar) and add an additional parameter "admin_divisions_title". For Borneo the title would be "Countries", and the "admin_divisions" parameter would list the countries, with the provinces listed in brackets. (4) I think this template should eventually be renamed Infobox Island, after making it generic enough to be used for non-Indonesian islands. This goal isn't too far away. (
8936:, who has taken the entire IUCN list and made stubs for everything listed on it. They're all short stubs (but not useless, as they have references and conservation information). Probably anything that hasn't had an article yet would be classified as low importance, although I'm not exactly sure how to gauge importance for animals -- is it just a matter of how famous they are? The bot is programmed to automatically put them into the subcats if they exist for the country. Making sure they all have WPID tags would be a good job for a bot (or an AWB user). 6743: 4329: 9240:. He didn't wake up thinking my mission in life is to oppose communism. Ie, the PKI was in the way of his ambitions, and then could be used for his ambitions – in many ways the same way that political Islam was perceived as a threat. Is he thus anti-Islam? Of course not, and thus I think using simplistic labels for to label someone an anti-communist is problematic – it makes it sound like being anti-communist was his mission, when communists were merely an obstacle and then scape goat. -- 31: 8771:(VOC). The VOC section had previously taken up about half the article, the discussion of independence took up about 1/3 to 1/2 of the remainder, with very little discussion on the 1800 to 1942 period - which officially is meant to be the point of the article. I took out most of the VOC info, and expanded the remainder. I have split the main body into (1) a section of how the Dutch expanded their territory including wars of resistance and (2) a section on social and economic aspects. 9907: 9865: 9823: 3705:. The site is a bit painful to navigate, but there is a large number of photos there organized by both photographer and also by place name. The photographers include Adolf Schaefer, Isidore van Kinsbergen, Kassian Céphas, Charles Kleingrothe and Christiaan Benjamin Nieuwenhuis. The photos I've checked are scanned at a high resolution, but it takes quite a few clicks to drill down into the high res versions. You may see me adding a few to my pet articles. ( 7733: 9979: 4506:) becomes a DAB page listing nothing but the ethnic group and their language. My opinion is that this incorrectly elevates the language to the same level as the ethnic group instead of the language article being a sub-article of the ethnic group article. If we decide to choose a convention like "Elbonian people", I would at least like to see "Elbonian" and/or "Elbonians" redirect to "Elbonian people" rather than being a DAB page, as per 2404:
broached the issue - and as a project we need to find a good wikipedian consensus - or even airing of ideas as to how to approach the subject - as we have been doing by developing articles that we can deal with - with no 'speculative;' non encyclopediac style or attitude enroaching on our articles. It is a sensistive subject - but we need to deal with it, specially as there are issues creeping into the projects domain from other areas.
1084:, but Imoeng's skill after his exam (I really wish you will beat the exams easily, Imoeng) will handle this problem. One question for islands shared with other countries (Borneo, Papua and Timor). Any idea how to make a consistent template with other islands? I'd expect there would be optionals countries and provinces/states per country (???) Should we create a separate "Infobox Island", but this would be general for other countries? β€” 9943: 6092:
non-Indonesians, and we can't force them to use our term. Especially for English-speakers who are just plainly stubborn. Hey, if we can't force them to call Greenland "Kalaallit Nunaat", how can we make them use "Kalimantan" rather than "Borneo"? That being said, I agree with Meursault that "Borneo" is a derivation of "Brunei", when even in its golden era only covered a small part of Kalimantan (the northern part).
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sufficient knowledge of those individuals was evident from the editors involved in the project. But then considering we seem to have less than 10 active members working towards some good for the project - maybe a deletion at the moment may seem justifiable - but I consider that suggestions such as the one above re 'utility' misses the point completely about what the project and perhaps wikipedia is actually about.
6491:- ever since I created this template I've had second thoughts about whether it was necessary to do so. I agree with you about this template and Infobox Settlement being a bit ugly, but I'd rather see some investment in making Infobox Settlement prettier for the sake of the whole of wikipedia. Visual consistency across templates is a good thing and thats easier to do if there are fewer templates to maintain. ( 7882:: I like the divisions/periods. We probably need to reconsider the actual titles (and eventually even change article names) but the general idea is really good. Another point I'd make is that the revolution goes from 45-50. Sure, the Netherlands recognised Indonesian sovereignty in 1949, but the dissolution of the Dutch states did not actually happen - and hence RI not complete - until 17 August 1950. -- 5871:(1)The category thing is quite a number - best not to use that term for anything other than a real category or you are really in deep trouble. (2) Monitoring articles tagged for the project can be done in more ways than present - but I would strongly suggest/advise against creating any new device/measure that is not already part of the processes used by other large projects to keep tabs of things 2066:"Southeast Asia". But that refers to a land mass, and I would like a maritime classification in keeping with the others there, eg. "Maritime Southeast Asia. This region is unusual in that it forms the boundary between two oceans, and is not encompassed by one particular sea. I have not meddled with this, due to the proposed merger between article "Maritime Southeast Asia" and another article. 5856:(which includes both the articles and their talk pages), except a separate page for each category. Who set up our automated stuff and would they be able to help us do this? Anyway, I think the advantage of this is all you would have to do is add the parameter to the WikiProject template while assessing the article, which is easier than adding them manually to a list. 1811:). Its been some time since I've used it, but they've been scanning book like crazy I'm really amazed by how many books they have on there now, many of which I've not heard of or seen before in my own interest areas. One good aspect is that they often provide a preview of content even for copyright books. So for instance, have a look at this search for Borobudur 321:
finding the two-dozen most important academics in the field of Indonesia studies around the world, and sending them an email asking them to invite their students to contribute to wikipedia as part of their learning process. I read on the wikipedia signpost newsletter that some academics are even setting assignments which involve contributing to wikipedia. (
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need for the ports section is questionable. It should either be renamed "major ports" or removed. If you are going to list ports I'd also list major airports. (3) "Province" should be renamed "Provinces" (4) "Inhabitants" should be renamed "Population" (5) You could add an optional "Island Group" field which shows which group of islands it is part of. (
9159:, which has quite a few broken down by countries. If Suharto is the only Indonesian anti-communist, then the category should be deleted, but he should be moved to the parent category. I don't know, though, the entire parent category seems problematic for difficulty in defining who is one. There is quite a list of people there, though. 3903:(but now improved) which only focused on the Indonesia vs. Dutch military aspects, which was only one aspect (albeit a very significant aspect) of this period, and is way too simplisitc and narrow. This was not a milhist group problem, just anticipating potential issues. Hope this is not viewed as non AGF, but I've seen similar before. 262:. It has to be rated by the project's community. So if an article to be graded A should be nominated first, much like FA, but reviews are only local to the project. So, an A-Class status is assigned after a formal review by the project as a whole, rather than at the discretion of individual reviewers. One excellent example is here: 9187:- otherwise the adhoc nature of things falls to the foibles of specific problematic editors - myself included - who have a particular agenda (I never ever believed there was a civil war in Indonesia in 1965 66) but I had to wait for a year for a belligerent editor to back down from the inappropriate title to the article. 731:
between links that are intended to refer to Malay people from links that are intended to refer to the person's nationality or an aspect of the Malaysian nation (which should like to Malaysia. Can some editors who have a good understanding of the human geography of the region volunteer to correct the links?
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When the article gives the map of an island or group - this map doesnt show surroundings... or even does show 'blue ocean' where there IS neighboring big island (timor, Papua... see Maluku map)!! So i couldnt relate the detaled picture to the surroundings without comparing the shapes and combining to
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Could we please re-establish and confirm that issues central to an issue such as sources - and the issues arising from them is in a centralised place - the Bali Sea talk page is an example where any sense of credibility this project has has had a bit of a bump? - It would be appreciated if we realise
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In the articles about Jakarta locations - a number have the kelurahans as red links. I am of the opinion that not one Jakarta kelurahan has sufficient notability or available material to substantiate these red links - and about to move them. If a blue link one is found with sufficient material - it
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I'm not really sure, but my teacher used to say that "Kalimantan" is Indonesian part of the island of "Borneo". The whole island which contains three different countries (Brunei, Malaysia, and Indonesia) is called "Borneo", and the Indonesian part is called "Kalimantan". He could be wrong, who knows.
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I believe that fairly represents how I've heard the word used in English. Borneo, whatever its origin, is certainly the most common name for the island in English, and I wouldn't say anachronistic. I oppose a merge, even if the articles are somewhat redundant, just because it clarifies what it means
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The issue is that when any susbstantial amount of change occurs within the range of Indonesia project articles - it is a very simple courtesy that does not take much to do - (which a considerable amount of time has been spent to encourage editors to utilise WP Civility, and courtesy when editing) -
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Michael asked whether I have bot. I have not, but I could change lists and templates. I would also fix double redirects, something I am allways looking to do. Normal links will in most cases still work, but in cases where dab pages are created there are people running through all links that go to dab
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individual islands. Another option is to group together all Sunda Islands in the same category. Regarding Melanesia, my proposals there were unverified, and no doubt my investigation would have uncovered what you say. But thank you for pointing it out. If there is overlap between Melanesia and Lesser
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Bards, thanks for posting your proposal. Some initial comments:- You might want to check your geography references again, because to my knowledge the Greater Sunda Islands are not part of Melanesia, and only some of the Lesser Sunda Islands are part of it. I'm a bit concerned about the categorization
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I do not change anything of substance. I am only concerned with arranging the categories so that they function neatly and logically, and so they accurately represent the geography in a structured way. This will enable people browsing the categories to find articles easily, and learn about the islands
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Agree with all the changes so far. Some additional comments: (1) would be good to add a coordinates field (should be called "coordinates" or "coords"), as per most geography related infoboxes (2) the precedent set by the country and city infoboxes is to list the English and native names right next to
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My work got smart. They used to block ALL wikipedia but too many complained. Now they seemed to have worked out how to make wikipedia main only available. So for me, i can see the articles, but no log-in, history, talk, contribs - as for edit - forget it. Just as well my wife hasn't worked out how to
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Anyone who wishes to do this as an exercise (ok I know its very low on interest in the part of some editors - thats fine - we all have our different talents - its ok if there is limited interest I am not worried) if you could alert me to your interest - as there are a couple of issues if we can have
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if you try to write so officialy you must use EYD. any article who after EYD must use EYD any school in indonesia have priorty about language teach so there mean no people are not familiar with eyd. Like soeharto become suharto this more proper cause this after eyd even there conflict about that, if
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As for the example about Indonesian military personnel: I think such a case is different from my own, insofar as they would be professionally aligned with the issue. However, in an analogous situation (someone who had volunteered for Apodeti, for example), I would welcome those contributions so long
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Having said that, the article is of a particularly low quality and under-referenced. After quickly skimming through it, in my opinion, it focuses excessively on the involvement of foreign countries. Also, apart from introducing some more reliable and neutral sources, it would be good to include more
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Unless there is such in process or policy page- bit by bit finding one article category and putting it to the project will indeed be less reliable or methodical than having a dedicated page - similarly - the protocol for what gets tagged with the indonesia portal - will try to create something for
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My opinion is that we're struggling to even bring our city and regency articles up to a a respectable level of quality and so anything below this level should be left as redirect for now to its parent administrative division. For Jakarta we also have articles at the subdistrict level, and perhaps in
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There is no easy answer to the spelling question in Indonesian because applying any principle consistently will lead to anomalies. It's not good to have the same place spelled in two or three different ways depending on the period referred to; but it's wrong to impose the spelling of the present on
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The issue is precedence (as in law) - one gets easy or speedy delete and the project has categories, stubs which could be singled out just like that. If someone dosnt dream up an Indonesian prject template for geographical stubs defending low info stubs - it would be a field day for the deletionists
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Yes, i think a case by case basis is important. Obviously not every case is the same. Thus, perhaps we need to agree on a few different scenarios and how to thus manage the articles. my point was, i just hate having to chop between two or more small articles when they could just be one - ie, similar
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it is given in the section Traditional vernacular architecture. So it might be good to create a sub-article from that section but to expand from it. (Re. my username, yes, that was my intention to pick the name. The association comes from M,S,P and A countries and they are used even in press for bad
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Please note that some Indonesian project editors have been concerned to see the possibility of what appears to be a start to joint tag Indonesian project articles with that of the SEA Project. There are compelling arguments for and against such a tagging project, please see the conversation there.
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I remember reading that by the time Raffles visited Pagaruyung in 18xx it had already been burnt to the ground three times by the Padri movement, and nothing existed when he visited. It was also destroyed in 1966, and now in 2007. They really need to consult experts to help prevent it from happening
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Well, in principle the dab page is not such a bad idea. Although many links to Indonesian language link to ], if it is reverted back, there are many links to ] which are not intended to be to the language. Thus, the best thing to do is to fix the links themselves. I've had a go, and Michael is doing
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Hi, I've been doing random WPI tags (for the unititiated this means going to an article - finding no Wikiproject Indonesia tag on the talk page and putting it in) through a very large number of stubs or articles that are more or less stubs. They are almost all class=stub and importance=low, although
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It's completely impossible to understand much regarding smaller islands using Wiki (as well as other sources). The problem is changing names... and absens of articles/maps in the articles. I may conclude that Dammer is Damar, Baber is Babar etc. Nut still most as the existing island-articles in WP
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page does suggest some fairly rigorous guidelines for editors where a COI may be apparent (particularly the opening "In a Nutshell" Box). That you have declared your interest here is commendable, on the other hand, you've stated you want to present the "truth", and not what is "verifiable". Notions
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Carrying on from Davidelit's work, I've done some more major work on our history of Indonesia template. Now it is based more on themes and periods, and articles on specific and arguably not as important events have been removed. I've also fixed up the use of colour (what a mess it was!), and I got
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There is currently a large collaboration effort going on with this article. When I was working to keep the article comprehensive and ultimatly bring it to GA in the months after the disapearance this project was very supportive (I am still grateful to Indon for presenting me the Indonesian Barnstar
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I think the Ricklefs book has an excellent chapter structure and we could learn from it. Certainly some good ideas there. This could help make the template, and even get us thinking about how to re-organise some articles. This structure tends to cover periods, whereas our template - at least in the
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I agree on the merging of these articles. Borneo=Kalimantan. I still think that "Kalimantan" is the most appropriate term for the island, because my ancestors, the natives of this island, have been using that name for the whole island for ages. But I do know that "Borneo" is a more popular term for
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This is the one topic in Indonesia that is so badly developed, it might be considered non-existent. We have articles about most other parts of Indonesia, be it geographical or historical, but we have very little about the Internet in Indonesia. We need some work on these articles! Currently most of
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I'm more supportive of appending Regency to articles on a case-by-case basis to minimize the work required, and the number of links which need to be fixed up. However, if you have a bot which can perform the required work (including fixing broken links) I wouldn't be too opposed to doing it for all
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Great - I've also found that a google image search for lambang produces some good quality images, although I have to sift through lots of irrelevant images to find the provincial ones. If we can restore the deleted ones and then I'll try and find better quality ones for any that need improving. And
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Why the deletions of links to other online Dictionaries? I see that Kamus.net is the only online Indo-English dictionary linked to from this page. Why is that? Moreover, why is my link to IndoDic.com continually removed? Do the autors have a financial interest in Kamus.net or is this just because
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regarding this. I feel that if Indonesian articles uses English words then French articles should use English words. However, if French words remain in French articles then this debate must move to other projects so that they also conform to a single uniform style. If you want to keep using English
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Looks great in general. A few comments... (1) I'd suggest following the lead of the city/mountain/lake infoboxes, and only show the english name and the native name (if there is one). I don't think there is a need for showing colonial or alternate names since this infobox is just a summary. (2) the
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P.S. Well... another thing: in the articles about cities sometimes there's no mention of the island where the city placed. Why i do say this... seems without 'Indonesian geography' project there will pass many years before somebody sees some lesser island article and decide to provide it with the
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Ha! Funnily enough, I have the (unimproved) id article printed out waiting for me to translate! Unfortunately real life has taken over at the moment, so don't know when I can get to it... but let me know when you feel the id article is ready for translation, and I'll try and find the time to do at
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I don't know how to do map stuff, but I think a pinpoint map might be better, as it would provide a perspective of the whole country, which many users may find useful if they get the numerous islands in the archipelago confused. Actually, better still would be two maps, the whole country map and a
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Hi, I attended school in Indonesia, I learned both actually, but it was like 10 years ago. So we learned the evolution theory in the biology class and the creation theory in the religion class. I don't know, if there are political controversies about it. There were not. But at the present? I don't
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explanations for the origins, and etymology of the names of things and places - in some cases with literally no possibility of a reliable third party source to verify as such . So I support what Indon has suggested - it needs to be separated - this is an encyclopedia - and 'forms of information'
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All trouble aside: Lots of regencies have names coinciding with towns or sometimes other things, like mountains, maybe ethnic groups, subdistricts, old historic states or things outside Indonesia. These articles will probably all get the word "regency" appended. Maybe 50%? I don't know. Doing this
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Yes, you are correct - well and truly time. Is there one in particular that you can (and will) contribute to? I am happy to nominate that one. I will then notify all interested parties of the new collab, and ask them to select the following collab, which this time I think we should choose from the
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as standardization for city locator with Indonesia image; some countries has used this locator format. It uses only 1 image and take latitude and longitude information of the city to put the city marker in the image. So there is no need to create one image for each city article. Examples are given
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Else it's impossible to find anything. E.g. I did find nearly anything i was needing in the Wiki... just after i spent some time, invented elaborated strategies etc. Although I dind find here Kisar (its location. The article exists) and some other places. I realized Sermatta is to be searched as
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The law stipulates that it includes "publication and/or reproduction of anything which is published by and/or behalf of the Government, except if the Copyright is declared to be protected by law or regulation or by statement on the work itself or at the time the work is published." I think you're
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Last about the Infobox Settlement. I don't want to touch that too complicated template. Let others do that, but the Infobox Regency of Indonesia is nowhere we can find in the template namespace. We need a special infobox for the regency. I am trying to make this infobox as simple as possible, for
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Congratulation, Bwmodular!! Loads of sleepless nights are waiting for you, hehehe.. Anyways, guys. I'm sorry if my following questions would make me sound sooo stupid, but I'm a noob, so spare me. I want to have some special categories on "Traditional Houses of Indonesia", "Traditional Weapons of
3066:? The ID one's are all uploaded under fair use rationale, but I don't think the source is listed. I suppose that could be a problem as I don't know where the original images come from. If I were to create svg versions of the ID images, would that be legit? Not much of an expert on these matters.-- 2403:
It appears that a project-wide discussion is required on the subject of how this subject is developed within the project. It has been developed over time with articles that contribute towards an understanding - by looking at the components of the larger issues. However non project editors have
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The first sentence of the Indonesia page says that "Indonesia, officially the Republic of Indonesia (Indonesian: Republik Indonesia), is a nation of 17,508 islands." But the first line of the Geography section refers to "Indonesia's 18,108 islands." Which is it? Any way to get agreement on such a
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Please give me your comments in this talk page instead. The navigational infobox is still an old one, but will modify for better and simpler navigation through this project. BTW, can you believe that somebody has asked an A-class assessment since Nov. 2006, but nobody from this project ever touch
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are still performed individually, but we can use this project to organize and speed up the improvement drive. Let's say it's the beginning of 2007, why don't we re-activate this project. I have several ideas to shape up the project page for easy access for (new) members and activating some useful
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As for the spelling of proper names, I think one should also take into consideration the way the person self writes his or her own name. In the Indonesian language Knowledge, names before 1972 should be spelled according the Soewandi spelling and before 1948 according the Van Ophuijsen spelling.
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that is attributed to the Indonesian Department of Information, and is therefore allowed on Knowledge as it "is published and distributed by the Government of Republic of Indonesia, according to Article 14 item b of the Indonesia Copyright Law No 19, 2002". Does anybody happen to know if the "30
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Yes of course we will write ] in editing, but the article name should be "Karo Regency", IMO. I think all regency name are derived from other, so they are not the primary name. Most of the cases, a regency name is derived from the capital name, as it mostly happens in Java. In the Karo case, the
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Re:Caniago: How about as in Indonesian Knowledge. X, province, Indonesia or even X, regency, province, Indonesia. Otherwise X (Indonesia). For example how about "Glenmore" in East Java? Should it be called Glenmore, Indonesia or Glenmore, Banyuwangi, East Java, Indonesia or Glenmore (Indonesia)?
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I'd say Sundanese people, as it discusses wayang, dance, and literature as well, which would only be tangential to the gamelan. The Sundanese people page has no discussion of culture, and could use it. Some of the material should probably be added to gamelan, but as that page isn't organized by
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The whole thing is all rather silly really, isn't it? Although most of the pre-1965 Indonesian Army leadership, especially Yani and Nasution, were virulently anti-communist, given that from the mid 1960's it became expedient, then compulsory to be so, by extension, every single Indonesian alive
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looks like a popular contender. I'll update it. It seemed the collab fell out of favour for while there, but I'll try and get it going again. Later today, I will notify all project people it's now Jakarta, and ask them to nominate for the next page. I will strongly suggest we focus on a stub or
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In my experience the quality of the ones on the Indonesian wikiproject sometimes isn't too good. The provincial government websites often contain a page which has the logo (lambang) and an explanation of the meaning of it, so this is probably the best source. Being government websites I presume
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There is currently a buildup of over 750 ambiguous links at the Malaysian disambiguation page. This is an extremely large number - actually, it is roughly double the largest number of ambiguous links of any other page on the English Knowledge. Fixing the links requires the editor to distinguish
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Aspects of this sort of work is dull, boring, and not interesting to many other editors - I happen to find it very interesting - having read touism guide books and maps about Indonesia for over 20 years now - I am intrigued by the misinformation and outright incorrect rubbish that gets onto the
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I have been having a conversation with a prominent australian editor who is in indonesia at the moment who is moving articles due to their spelling being in not what he is finding as he travels in Indonesia. In other words he is not finding the pre-1972 spelling in anything he sees while is in
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article is good, but it has Point of View from western, for example, in the opening paragraph critizing Indonesian goverment and some other things.. (Artikel agama di Indonesia lumayan tapi dari POV barat. Misalkan di paragraf pembuka cenderung memojokkan pemerintah Indonesia dan beberapa hal2
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Created new section heading - the emergence of Indonesia. This might be the most controversial change, but to me it makes a lot of sense. I based this somewhat on the chapter heading from the Ricklefs book I listed a few sections above - and of course on the previous template, which wasn't all
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How about trying to get an article into The Jakarta Post, as per the recent one in Kompas (?). It could coincide with the our Indonesia article getting FA status. Maybe they could include a profile on our prolific expat editor at LeidenΒ ;-) As for getting expects to contribute, I would suggest
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What would you say to someone from the Indonesian military, or say the Indonesian East Timor administration, who had said, similar to you, that they would like work on the article with the "only goal to have the truth known about what happened", they had no personal agenda, and they were only
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Yes, categorising people thru simplistic labels is usually fraught with dodginess. Not at all professional/academic. Some cats are black and white no-brainers - ie, he was a general, and he was an Indonesian president - but attempting to sum up complex and protracted political dramas, and the
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Suharto was and is not the only anti-communist in Indonesian history - in the 1957 to 1962 period there were a significant number - and in the 1966 to 1998 there were others who specifically were open and public about this particular stance. I believe such a category would be populatable if
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My apologies! I hadn't considered checking here before turning the page into a disambig; sorry for the trouble I've caused. From what I've seen (though I could be wrong) the number of links that don't concern the language is comparable to those that do, thus the change to a disambig page. In
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map, coordinates, or something. So what about starting the project? Sorry, i cannt participate for some reason:( And i'm not related too much to Indonesia. But i think it's reasonable... Please, regard this as an opinion of the reader rather then editor. And forgive my English after all! --
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To reinforce the point - anyone reading this - if you ever come across any untagged category or article that has a red 'discsssion/talk' tag - please put minimally - WP Indonesia for the article on its talk page - and WP Indonesia|class=NA inside the double funny brackets - for the project
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I've been thinking about the negative reactions my reverting of unsourced (too often large scale) additions and and I was starting to think that maybe I was being a bit too extreme. But, that article convinces me that I'm doing the right thing. We need quality not quantity and quality means
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This article was a problem for a long time. I've done some cleaning up including removing unverified material, requesting citations for other material, and hopefully cleaning up POV language. Perhaps I have been too generous in not removing more info, and only requested in-line citations.
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Okay, ignore what I said about the Earth image, that's an interesting feature I hadn't seen yet. I think the logo and motto are fine as they are. I agree it's probably appropriate to separate this and the general settlement template, as Regencies are of larger size than most settlements (a
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Very very interesting in view of the relationship between Indonesian project editors and some military history editors some time back over templates, and articles. Nevertheless - thanks for the good faith invite - if you are indeed moving into this territory - I would strongly suggest some
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hindsight I probably should have fixed the links before doing the conversion, rather than the other way around. As such I've reverted my edit temporarily; when all (or at least the majority) of the links have been fixed, then I'll change it back, assuming nobody is objectionable to that. --
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Yes, how to get expert contributors? Can we even approach universities maybe? The most active members here seem to be in Indonesia, Netherlands, or Australia - the three countries with arguably the most Indonesia expertise in the world. Let's think of ways to encourage some real experts to
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Yes, I saw that and think it should stay as it is; unlike the Germans, Koreans, and Arabs he cites, they are not a majority in any country and thus a regional breakdown seems useful. I'd say continue reverting it unless the reverters provide a cogent argument why it shouldn't be included.
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I don't like showing off the logo. It does not show additional information. If a user wants to look at it more detail, a single click to the image is enough. About the text inline with the logo, I believe the table will expand automatically as the text is longer. I'm not sure yet in all
4454:, etc. But if it is clear that there is no other disambiguity or if it is only just a small stub to create, I don't think we need to add additional "regency" in the name. Not until the stub is expanded or if there is disambiguation. So I agree with no suffix when it is already clear. β€” 2658:
request for A-classΒ ? The editor, who is a non-member, has been kindly updated, managed and improved the article to its current state. Your opinion (oppose/support) is really needed and will be a good start for assessing other A-class articles in our project. Pleeeeaassee helpΒ !!Β :-) β€”
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I really think there need to be benchmark against a source that is very very very reliable - I will not accept the cia fact book, encarta or anything like that - we really need to be consistent in the project as to this as it is a perennial issue - we need to have a definitive answer!
9327:, you'll find quite a range of reasons and situations in which people were considered anti-communist. To me, it makes the label seem vague, but since it's part of a huge international listing, it's not for us in this project to decide that it's inappropriate. I suggest discussion at 10664:
So - i think I will now go ahead and make these changes. Ie, ensure portal link is on all Top and High importance articles, and all B and higher quality articles. And, remove from any that don't fall within this category (although there may be exceptions either way). Any comments?
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be a 'one-size-fits-all' approach enforced in all cases. Also, please consult other editors (here is a good idea) if a change/s are needed. I can't imagine that there would be the need to change something so quickly that we cannot wait for the opinion of others. nice work people.
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of those that I could identify from 1958 to 1961 or so- were collectively anti communist, by membership of particular political groups. But the term and the label are indeed externally applied labels onto the project structure - bit like the old one of 'indonesian civil war':)
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I just found a nice toy to fix disambig links. It's fun. Since I know about the subject, I'm going to put back Indonesian into disambig page and then help you to fix that. Sorry for this mess, Talon. You don't have to apologize. You have reminded us to be a good WP editor.Β :-) β€”
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Damned! Busted. It's collaborative project, though. You shaped my lousy grammar, Caniago pushed more comprehensive materials, Sadamelik put a beautiful decoration of Java topology map, and others uncountable editors had helped the article to get featured. So thanks everyone. β€”
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My first question would be is Glenmore notable enough to warrant an article here?Β :-) For towns, a more specific convention is probably best to avoid ambiguity, such as Glenmore, East Java. I'm not in favor of deeply nested names, so the Indonesia part is unnecessary I think.
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give no map no coordinates, they confuse east-west when describing 'what lies at the east', they didn't tell exactly from which island consists, e.g. the Barat Daya group... etc. Nowhere in the Wiki exists detaled map of the region, not to say the map with the island-names!
1814:. Just from looking at the content preview, I think the Hindu king related to Borobudur you might be referring to is King Indra (A.D. 782-812) - he seems to have a Hindu name, but he may have been Buddhist. The two books at the top of that search query have a lot of info. ( 9235:
If we are to keep the (empty) category, I think we need to define very specifically what an β€œanti-communist’ actually is. There are many people who don’t like communism – does that make them an anti-communist? Suharto’s opposition to communism was not ideological, merely
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there once was the word Province only appended to some. Only for those that had naming conflicts. But I tried my best to find more naming conflicts. And I could find them. So the WP Argentina was fast in changing to use Province for all. The same policy is applied to the
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Please take note - Datadawai Airport - has been prodded - please take to time to either review whether the project really wants geographical stubs like this to be prodded or deleted., or whether project members are prepared to take time to save or defend stubs - or not
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postfixed. There are also some interesting cases, since some islands are also provinces and others are regencies. In such a case I think the information about the island and province/regency should be merged in one article, and so the name needs to be suitable for this
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I was the one who renamed Nusa Kambangan, based mostly upon the fact that it is the name Britannica uses. After further consideration I don't have any major objections to it being renamed back to Nusa Kambangan, as long as it is the name most English publications use.
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The {{portal|Indonesia}} link was splashed around many articles, in fact at one stage it was being put on any article that was remotely related to Indonesia (I was partly responsible!). I think it is time to work up some guidelines on how to use it more sparingly.
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and wasn't sure if there was a consensus one way or the other here. (I wrote that the 1972 spellings are preferred in general, since both Sukarno and Subandrio were where they are). Please help contribute to the naming conventions, where I have added other things.
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regarding the whole thing to see if there is a consensus on exactly what it means; otherwise we should just file people here, either in the parent category, or if we can dig up more than just Suharto (which, as SatuSuro points out, we surely could), in the subcat.
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Y Island). There are also overlapping classifications, so part of Melanesia overlaps with part of the Lesser Sunda Islands. If the construction of categories and the organization of islands into categories is not well thought out it will make islands hard to find.
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time we could decide to allow this for other large cities, but anything at the village level seems like a total waste of effort and a very costly exercise for us to maintain. The more articles we have in the project, the more thinly spread our resources will be. (
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of National Merit as a result of my work there), and I thought that members here might be interested in joining the collaboration, the ultimate intent of which is to bring the article up to FA standard. Please head over to the talk page, and see what needs done!
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Hi all, a couple of us are working up vampire to FAC, and there's a stubby bit on indonesian beings as well as separate subarticles. Anyone with books on balinese or indonesian folklore who can embellish or provide refs would be gratefully appreciated! cheers,
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Insufficient process within the indonesia prokect to determine the life or death of single entry categories - needs to be discussed more - having tagged hundreds for the project - I would suggest a policy page re categories needs to be created for guideline and
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Hi all, It seems to me that the Indonesian History Template is a bit disjointed - particularly the post-independence period. And the heading "Independence (1945–1965)" is rather odd. Did independence end in 1965?! Could I propose the following reorganization:
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A fire caused extensive damage to Basa Pagaruyung Palace in Tanahdatar regency, West Sumatra, on Tuesday evening. Detik.com news portal quoted a witness, identified only as Andri, as saying the fire, believed to have been sparked by lightning, began at about 8
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To reiterate - only two guide books are being indicated here - because of notability and common usage by foreign tourists in Indonesia over the last three decades - - there are about 6 others that I will eventually have stubs/articles for. The emphasis is as
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They can be good specifically for tourist related info, locations, etc. Also, some are very accesibly written on background info, history, culture, etc. They give a good initial "feel" for the topic. They should not, however, in my opinion be relied upon as a
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The article and sources dont refer to any dispute between Indonesia and Australia, the talk page discusses a CIA fact book comment about Indonesian groups, (it doesnt say Indonesian Government) the dispute is over fishing access not territorial ownership.
2958:. That's very tactfully put, Indon!Β :) I read 'Propinsi Kepulauan Bangka Belitung' but didn't notice the 'Kabupaten' at the top. OK, I'll overwrite what we have in commons with the image from the id wiki, and also revert a couple of other changes I made.-- 3102:) but the pictures on those pages aren't much better - pretty low resolution, and often with a multicoloured background which will take some editing out. (BTW Neither of these pages seem to be available at this moment, but they certainly were yesterday - 505:
Hi all. My name is Calupict. I decided to join the assesment team because I think that the job suit me. I hope I can help in so many things. At my first day, I edited the log page which is supposedly edited by bot. I hope I did not do such thing anymore.
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Hey, I'm not a member of this project, but I was just looking at barnstars, and noticed the barnstar of national merit for Indonesia had been deleted because (apparently) someone forgot to fill out the licensing info. Dunno if you care or not; just FYI.
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Please note that categories will be tagged with a non-article tag soon so that we can review what categories exist within the Indonesia Project - they will not affect anything else - any questions please check with me - please do not alter them - thanks
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on the basis of the id: version, I am unhappy about my translation, by way of Bahasa Indonesia, of the inscription into English. (Shouldn't have attempted it in the first place, true, and I apologise.) Could someone very kindly give it a check? Thanks,
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right in figuring that only those photos specifically attributed to the government would fall in that category, as the others probably declare a copyright by some individual, although it sounds like it would have to be explicitly mentioned in the book.
1157:, I should create stubs for List of islands in Indonesia to be featured. Let me see, 17,508 / 365 then on average I should create 50 stubs each day to finish the list by the end of 2007!Β ;-) Just kidding. Hey, thanks for adding coordinates parameter. β€” 8810:
Great work guys. Thanks to Merbabu & Davidelit, we have better history articles about Indonesia. Now it's time for me to read again those articles to understand the history of my own country that I didn't understand when I was in high school. :P β€”
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in which sufficient labour time and resources of info are located - it is very unlikely the current stubs will grow much - let alone subsidiary keluruhan stubs. The point is no information is being removed - just unfulfilled links being cleaned up.
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Tahun Indonesia Merdeka" books, are covered by the same law? Or would that only apply to photos in the book specifically attributed to government departments? If we could use these pics, we could really do things with the Indonesian history pages.
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I don't know the etymology or the origin of the word "Kalimantan". But the name "Borneo" is derived from "Brunei". Personally I like Kalimantan better. Not because I am an Indonesian but because the name "Borneo" gives too much credits to Brunei.
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Thanks for the quick response, but doing that might cause more confussion. We're talking about two different people. The Sjahrir in question in the article that was deleted was a political dissident jailed in 1974 and active in current politics
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Thanks Rigadoun, what a quick answer.Β :-) I am going to setup the subpage. And you're right, we should limit ourselves into specific Indonesian names (administrative places) and leave other generic geographical names similar to other places. β€”
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How to deal with low level activity time - there is probably a need for the more active members to at least put something in at least every week... simply to keep the project from becoming stagnant. There is still so much to do in the project
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Thank you. I've also an idea about the assessment. I know SatuSuro has been working hard for tagging in Indonesia-related articles. We have know over 800 articles in the project. If you look into the statistics, none of them have been rated as
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topics: local A-class assessment, project-based peer-reviewed, guidelines of formatting and contents of similar articles (provinces, cities, islands, etc.) and standardize templates. Of course, we still continue our fortnight collaboration.
6044:. The articles are not clear on whether the term 'Kalimantan' applies only to the Indonesian part of the island, or whether it is the Indonesian term for the whole island of Borneo. But is not, 'Borneo', simply and old colonial anachronism? 5599:. Once there are items there, we may want to include a link or hyperlink from the mainpage of the project (a number of other WikiProjects do this). The formula for determining relevancy may have to be tweaked, you can look at it yourself at 1340:
The infobox city is quite complicated and I don't want to add one small modification only for the image map. Mostly a lot of parameters in the infobox are not used for Indonesian cities. The generic locator image is also being discussed in
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I agree that the article needs serious work, and I'm willing and able to do it. Perhaps you or other folks from the project could keep an eye on it and make comments as I go. (It will probably be several weeks, as I'm currently working on
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instance by automatically add Density if Population and Total area are available, so editors do not have to calculate it themselves. Other automatic calculations are: the percentage, the conversion from Rupiah to US Dollar, and sectioning.
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How would you all feel about using Indonesian words and nomenclatures in all Indonesian administrative division article texts? eg, use provinsi or propinsi) instead of province in the text of all Indonesian articles, not just the titles?
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to the form 'Karo Regency', i don't think we need to write 'Karo Regency' religiously at all times in the articles when the context makes it obvious we are talking about a regency. Ie, simply write 'Karo', or if wiki linked ]. Thoughts?
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I think it's a good idea. However as long as it is not too Western-orientedΒ :-) I saw it is well referenced. Some time ago the article about Soeharto was translated from English and we got some complaints as it is too Western-oriented.
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food is linked to that DAB page. I've often tried to clean that up and always link the language to "Indonesian language" and never to "Indonesian" as I kinda knew something like this might happen. To link to the languge we need to type
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So you are the one who is responsible for all of those articles? Thank you so much, I feel so much pride for our Tanah Air after reading your articles! Now, wouldn't it be better if we have a special category for them? You know, like
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What I meant is that to create that specific article about Indonesian traditional houses, but in conjunction with the more general article. So that it would not overlap/redundant or even contradict to each other. For instance, in the
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Agreed, we should not create village/suburb articles simply because they a village/suburb exists. Only notable villages that are famous for something should be created - and I would suggest the threshold for inclusion must be high.
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and then goes on to say some things about (Indonesian) Kalimantan. If somebody encounters the word "Kalimantan" and wants to know what it means, it would seem clearer if they read this than if they were simply redirected to Borneo.
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I just pust some titles in the article. It appears that the Indonesian article from which the current English article is based, was written by an anon who just copy-pasted some text from the website of the Cathedral in Jakarta.
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Direct collaboration nominees, A-scale assessment requests and local Peer Review requests. It is better for somebody who wants to ask for our helps, a new member to start and also for us to know what's the new requests/nominees
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if you do not understand about that - ask, check, get help on understanding what it means, (b) About bold editing, and (c) communicating on project talk pages first about issues before spending too long on any one article idea
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spelling is in a clear majority. Also the German Knowledge article was created on 30 Sep this year from the English one, taking over the spelling. I would like to correct this but would like to put this to a discussion first.
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always check the possible 'close' named articles dont already exist - try a number of variant names before starting - in the project we do have 'double articles' which have happened - it is well spending time checking first.
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who seeks to apply a title or content which does not have adequate explanation of either the local usage or the possible available variations - in the first line of the article. The point still seems important 2 months later
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categories from outside - probably an editor with an agenda that lies outside of the project - where numbers of imposed ideas on this project come from editors with very limited knowledge of indonesian history or geography.
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Hmm... just to remind everyone to be highly selective for offline publications. Otherwise the resource page would be a book directory. It should be mentioned why the book is selected among other similar types. For instance,
11371:? My work with ETAN/US is entirely voluntary and is done exclusively on my own time. Furthermore, I have no personal agenda one way or another with this article; my only goal is to have the truth known about what happened. 11270: 4835:
page should mention at the start the independent WNG concept of West Papua - it's a very widely used term in that respect (Incidently, some even suggest that the renaming of the province was an attempt to hijack the use).
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has finally been created. If there is anyone here who is interested in the subject - stretching from the origins of civilisation up through today - I invite you to please come and lend your support, questions or comments,
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Thanks for the good responses. I agree with SatuSuro that it really needs to be fixed. Having two such glaringly discrepant figures in the same article is the kind of thing that sabotages the authenticity of these pieces.
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Hi neighbors. Apa khabar? Im looking for an article on Assimilation policies in Indonesia. First of all, did such policy ever existed? Or anything similar? If so, is there already an article about it? Itu aja. Makasih!
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Caniago has initiative to add resources in the main page, but I think we need to list more. Also important to put public domain image resources for Indonesia-related pictures and maps. Shall we create a new sub page? β€”
6373:). Is it taught in Indonesia? Since it's a largely Islamic country, it seems a possibility that it might not be taught or taught with some political controversies. If anyone can let me know that would be appreciated. 1365:..and also the specialized infobox city can be simplified and easier to use. For instance, by giving the "lat" and "long" parameters, the template can automatically define the coordinate of the city and also call the 9752:
THus, i suggest we use it only for higher importance and higher quality articles. THe question is exactly how important and how high a quality an article must be. I propose only put a portal tag on if the article is
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rid of wiki-linked headings (which were annoying). I think it is important to have a shorter list of fundamentally important periods, rather than more that includes some less fundamentally important articles such as
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I have an idea on how to improve the monitoring lists. On the WP Indonesia template, we could add another parameter (in addition to class and importance), let's call it category. The categories are the ten pages at
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Somebody added this on the main page. Do you guys think it is a good time to start a new sub-page called "Good contents"Β ? BTW, I am a bit reluctant to put formerly featured or good article pages. There is already
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Important issue is - the creation of red links that are unlikely ever to be created (and with complex links of the blue links back to the article they are in) are basically bad practice - unless someone starts a
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I FIRST created this article, and took 12 hours to develop the first article, and somebody just redirected my article in a few minutes? I plan to expand this article, not to redirect to a so "specific" article.
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Yes, i agree. The project's structure is not simple enough - at least it looks very complicated, even if it probably isn't. Although, to make things simple actually takes more work than to make them complicated!!
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have been made to this article - mainly about gamelan, the level of detail of which i think is irrelevant for this article. What do people think? I think it should be trimmed drastically. What do people think?
12152:"This is not right, don't make confusing note like this. It's okay if other nation use older spelling or version or depend on their tongue, no strict convention naming here, don't make your own difficulties" 8895:
Part way thru a bot came along and helped me out with the cats, but I still put each one manually into the project. If you come across any 'new' or untagged Indonesia fauna items - please tag and categorise--
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The white sand beach sounds nice, especially since its winter hereΒ :-) The changes in general look pretty good, especially the visual presentation. There are some things which could be simplified and tweaked:
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these names. I do not think we should write in articles "Bangkalan Regency" - we just need to say 'Bangkalan' especially when it is already mentioned that it is a regency. This change shows clearly my point:
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internet - and into non-indonesian media about places in indonesia especially. Anyone who might wish to help out in thtis aspect of the project - I would appreciate any feedback on this part of the project.
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also had several hundred. A few weeks back I went through each one and made sure they were all in the Indonesia project. Most of them, however, I didn't assess. The fauna articles, I then created sub-cats:
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What a relief there is some standardisation - the sooner it is up as a consensus policy - on its own page the better - makes life easier for taggers as self to answer back to intruders with odd ideasΒ :)
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Okay, we have to straight it right. Otherwise somebody will start to move articles with their own naming standard. So here's my first humble proposal for naming of administrative & geographical places:
8374: 5355:(unindent) I think everybody agrees with "X Regency" names, right? If we are agree with this consensus (as I have put in the new subpage), then I will start to make some name modifications, starting from 11654:
I think we need to trim it off a lot. To stress that the article is about the province, so it should only mention culture in general. Besides the new additions fit more appropriately in other article. β€”
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The Indonesian language Knowledge would like to install 2 oversights. So if you have an account there and you have more than 30 edits, and you would like to vote, you can do that on the following pages:
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Oh, so there's already one. Stupid me. I've already started my project in that category. It won't be easy, as my internet connection is super-duper slow. But I will do it once at a time. Nasantara jaya!
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Assessment for stubs in most cases are straight forward - for larger articles - I am hoping that our guidelines are well tested on mid and high importance - and in fact are double checked where possible.
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Coordinates should be in degree-minute-second, as that is far more common. I don't see the point of the picture of earth except to clutter up and possibly cause the squashing Caniago saw (it's ok in my
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for example, it is too general. Wouldn't it be better if we have a special category regarding our rich architectural heritage? I would love to contribute, especially for my hometown South KalimantanΒ ;)
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Thx for your reply, Indon (BTW, do you know that your name is offensive for some Indonesians, especially if it is uttered by Malaysians?). I am aware of those articles, but how about articles? Like the
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Folks, I do know - there are many other trobles. May be, if i did search for the local languages... i would be confused even more:) But... at least something is hardly needed to do with all the maps.
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Sermata... but couldn't locate it on the maps. The name 'Talaut' is absent here. I still have other sources than WP:) I was just curious 'may i use wiki for this purpose'. I 'evaluated' where does lie
6686:. They are saying the info box info re distribution thru Indonesia should be removed - and then suggesting those who want to keep it (rather than those wanting it removed?!?) should take it to talk. -- 4981:
I appreciate the effort, but could somebody think about sourcing while translating? It's better to add sources while adding new materials, than finding the sources for the materials already written. β€”
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Yes. I guess it depends upon the website, but you are right it is quite patchy. My experience is mostly with the West Sumatran cities and regencies. I think there are some which are ok to use, such as
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I am ashamed to say that I haven't been able to contribute anything on Sidoarjo mud disaster. It;s just that I have little knowledge of it. I hope I can give my contribution in the next colab project
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pages. They will probably help. And on every edit on related pages one can keep an open eye on links that seem to _want_ to link to a regency but do not have the "Regency"-suffix. What do you think?
3871:. No serious responsibilities or obligations connected to signing up, only another way to meet one another, to work together to expand and improve Knowledge's coverage of these subjects. Thank you. 9459:. However, that's not the way I've seen it described, and if it's not accurate or NPOV, I don't see the point of a redirect. (Obviously non-controversial facts can be added to a relevant article). 7898:
first half - covers entities such as empires, the VOC, etc. Both have advantages and disadvantages. Using periods, it is possible to better cover the interaction between entities and transitions.
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made so many entry related with Sastrowardoyo family. You can see at his userpage what are the pages that he made. Judging from his name, I became suspicious that he is Rahadyan Sastrowardoyo; see
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to support the map? I would image there would be support given the wider potential for use. I'm reluctant to support creating project specific templates when there is a general one available which
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problems and many unsourced statements, and is also missing many significant biogrpahical details which should be there. The same kind of problems, though to a lesser degree, exist in the page on
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I certainly agree that verifiability is the goal here, not some nebulous pipe-dream of truth. (When I use the word "truth" here, I mean it in the most Knowledge-esque way possible: a verifiable,
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quite zoomed in one, revealing its geographic shape, neighboring Regencies and so forth. If the maps are unavailable, it could still be set up in the template in hopes that they get added later.
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Kalimantan is the Indonesian name for the island known to the rest of the world as "Borneo". Thus, for outsider the meaning of "Kalimantan" is simply the Indonesian part of the island of Borneo.
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NOTE: While I was typing this in, the page in reference was indeeded deleted. But if there is an admin here who can access the deletion and look it over, it would be appreciated. The related
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Cool! I've used also this google books a couple of times. If we peek the scanned book and found what we are looking for, then I guess it is safe to cite the book, isn't it? Thanks, Michael. β€”
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I think Caniago misunderstood the sources field. They are footnotes that then would appear at the bottom of the screen, and justify the contents of the infobox. That seems reasonable to me.
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is sorted as "Laksono, Agung". Since I gather that most Indonesians do not have family names I was a bit curious as to why this alphabetization was used. I asked on the embassy over there
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These titles are redirects to the master list. Although later I would like to have a plan to make a separate article about history and politics of regency and cities, but not the list. β€”
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association. I'm an Indonesian and I don't like people using that name to offend others. Search on Google, my username is on the first page. Not the top result yet, but let's see.Β :-) β€”
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without mentioning other countries (see the country of origins, putting only Malaysian sources and removed parts that don't come from Malaysia). We need to clean up this article to get
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I'm not really expert in this. I don't have any particular preference, but yeah current spelling is usually used. Perhaps in the lead we should also mentioning former spelling, as in
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which will direct to the country page. Better still, would be something more specific. Take for example "Islam in Indonesia". Don't link to ] and ] individually, better link like this
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during the 1965-1998 period was an anti-communist (if asked). This might make Indonesian Anti-Communists the biggest subcategory of them all! Shall we starting editing the articles?
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For islands there needs to be at least some exceptions. I don't think islands which are well known, such as Java, Sumatra, Borneo, Sulawesi, Bali, Lombok, New Guinea, etc should have
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yesterday. I agree that the Communications article is high priority; should we put it on the collab of the week? (Unfortunately it's not really something I'm interested in, though)
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The number of subdistricts and villages, I think, are more important than, for instance, the motto. They show how big the administration is inside a regency. It's similar with the
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OK I get it - its a wise wikpedian editor with wonderfully developed wikaholism wikiedits a wikipedia article in his sleep and taps his pillow four times for the four tildes Β ?
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I am happy with the proposals so far. I would though to stress the importance of exceptions as appropriate - although there does need to be a degree of consistencies there should
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I would lean towards AFD. It's problematic because it's unsourced. If someone digs up reliable refs that use the term "civil war" consistently to describe it, then it might make
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Pioneer photography from the Dutch Indies: A number of photographers from the early days of photography travelled through the Dutch Indies capturing images of life in the colony.
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Indonesia", "Traditional Musical Instruments of Indonesia", "Traditional Costumes of Indonesia", etc. How can I do that? Do I have to ask for someone's permission first or what?
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Friends, a little baby boy (our second) arrived two weeks early yesterday, so I'll be out of action for the next few weeks. Mother, baby (and dad) all doing fine. Very happy. --
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Ben, if I am not mistaken, the logo you uploaded is for the Bangka regency, not for the province. I can't find the province website, one result from google is currently down. β€”
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a month and half ago, with such a bad English, and bad writing structure. I was very tired when doing that after Human Biology lecture all day. Needs somebody to tidy it up.--
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so I think its probably right. Could someone with good Bahasa Indonesia please point the id page to the commons logo with an explanation, if you think I'm right about this. --
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Any comment at all would be appreciated as to how WP Indonesia should go on this - developing the project with good encyclopediac articles and sticking to wikipedia policies.
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U may b right. But Indonization or Indonisation still gives (<20) search results in google n yahoo. Would it still be original research? Perhaps the better terms would be
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need to be clearly and unambiguously separated. Otherwise - very clear indications within articles about what is verifiable 'fact' versus 'popular/cerita rakyat' folklore.
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and that's why we are communicating each other to mantain articles. You just can't move hundreds of pages without being discussed first. It's what I call disruptive edits. β€”
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again. I just hope the historic artifacts stored in the building have been saved. Indon, you can visit my wife's RG near Bukittinggi instead, it has just been renovatedΒ :-) (
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list of stubs. Up until now, collabs have been on articles that already have a fair bit of info thus it is harded to add to. What do you think about trying indonesia stubs?
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I've noticed that on the Indonesian Knowledge categories with Indonesian people are sorted by last name. For example Eddy Santana Putra is sorted as "Putra, Eddy Santana",
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Indon, can't say I can help out. I know almost zip about the subject, and there are too many other wiki articles to spread myself too thinly over. Keep up the good work. --
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Okay before I update the new subpage, we need to resolve this name standard one-by-one. I propose the city name first. Let's have a straw poll on this then we can move on.
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I'm sure if Howard could have said its disputed territory and as Indonesia claims it, Asylem seekers havent reach australian waters in Indonesias eyes so send them back.
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article about regencies and cities of Indonesia. We should not make two articles of the same information, which further will confuse the readers. Worse that you created
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Indonesia independent Ҁ“ Photographs 1947-1953: The decolonisation of the Dutch Indies in more than 4500 photographs by Cas Oorthuys, Charles Breijer and Lex de Herder.
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Yeah, later on the template can be used for general island article. Why is there no Infobox Island? (or maybe I miss that?) Thanks, I'll give the update report later. β€”
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What I intend to propose - Let one of collaborations/'what to do's of Indonesia project will be focused on the whole geography rather then on some single article?
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either with some surroundings shown - or with possibility to go to the 'group' article and see the map of the group with the name of this particular island shown.
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It seems that some west jakarta stubs are novels unto themselves - will probably take some dismantling - not simply stubs but small empires of links and redirects
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being blocked. I have raised the issue in the Batik's talk page, but (s)he is still adding the same link in the article. Could somebody weigh-in there? Thanks. β€”
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I think putting the logo and the regency name on the same line makes things too squashed - the logo is too small, and there maybe isn't enough room for the text.
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i think its ready :D because i cant find more sources in English, i can only find sources from Acehnese and Indonesian, do anybody here have source in English?
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I would discourage the abbreviation "Kab.", as people may not even understand that it's referring to the native title and not some obscure English abbreviation.
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The example on the right is the Kupang Regency (which is not yet available). I filled in the statistics from the official websites. For comparison, you can see
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I read again the opening paragraph and they are beautifully sourced. They are not editors' opinion and editors did not try to critize Indonesian government. β€”
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just left a msg concerning the chief of stuff on one discussion page, but somehow cant c my comment. too many templates or whatever. just want to let u know
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Further, I hope we don't see attempts to paint very broad issues over long periods of time forced into a military conflict prism. Ie, this was the case with
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I've no problems with bulk reverting if done at the right place and time. The higher the article quality the more careful we need to be about what goes in. (
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I really like it and would support it (unless someone thinks of an issue I haven't). My only concern it its width when actually filled in, as in the case of
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Totally agree. We need to come up with guidelines for categorising (and a few other things, like use of the portal template). The weekend is near. he he. --
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Moluccan history and culture in pictures: Nearly 10,000 images of the Moluccas and of the Moluccan community in the Netherlands from 1900 up to the present.
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template. It's a bit ugly. So, I've been playing around, nicely sat in a beach, with beautiful white sand and came up with this new change. I'd like to be
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in the template space which are never used and I don't know why did you create it. It's all a mess that we (as the project members) need to clean it up. β€”
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is generally preferable for cities. An exception might be the Benkulu, Jambi, Yogyakarta cases where we already have a province with the same name, and so
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In this particular case it was a category that was specifically imposed from outside the project - as I have said before on other issues where we have to
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You may know WP own, but you have to respect it. Non members of WP Indonesia do not need the permission to fix things. I did it again, I moved Sampang to
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Basically what I'm trying to ask is: Where should I ask questions concerning new articles and/or categories in this project? Thank you in advance! Salam,
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It needs the change - yes go ahead - and I must say your headings/titles are more accessible and intelligble than what has been in it so far! well done!
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I'm not sure I agree with Caniago that the number of subdistricts is irrelevant, though since villages are so much smaller I agree that could be skipped.
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for important tasks (collaboration, peer-review and A-class nominations), so everybody can nominate/contribute directly? It is similar with more or less
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are welcome to join the project, where they will find support for collaboration on new articles and the expansion and promotion of existing articles. β€”
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Tamaneden, perhaps you could explain why we need two articles? What is the difference between the two and why can't the differences be merged into one?
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a lot, but not with a robot adding it. Merbabu should probably know about Cendol Elizabeth in Bandung.Β :-) (try G search: cendol elizabeth) BTW, it's a
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well, i would like to translate it, but recently i'm pretty busyΒ :(, and i'm concentrating to help the WuA project (wikipedia for kids in Indonesian)
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Permission? Of course not. I don't think you need that permission in Knowledge.Β :-) However, it should be inline with another articles, for instance,
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Its a problem with this specific infobox. I will fix it, but it will mean that all the existing capital names need to be enclosed with ] characters. (
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Please comment. Somebody asked a new request now in the assessment, but nobody will take a notice because it is deep inside the subpage. Thank you. β€”
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The Dutch East Indies in photographs, 1860 -1940: Some 3000 photographs present an image of colonial life in the Dutch East Indies from 1860 to 1940.
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I'd like to ask the owner of the following Adityawarman image for permission to use it under the appropriate license, but my German isn't sufficient
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that projects do have leigitmacy problems - and when outsider editors and admins come in and find discussions like that - they might wonder whether
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The Siberut article has a map of Sumatra, on which you can just barely see Siberut. Could someone put up a better map that shows the island itself?
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If it is decided that French-related articles are to be in French that is unfortunate, but it is no reason that Indonesian articles should also be.
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is a renowned scholar, expert for Indonesia, so his general book about Indonesia (if any) is preferred. So is for other guide books. (my-2-cents) β€”
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Lots of the Province pages have no 'logo' in their infoboxes. Is there any reason why I shouldn't take the images from the Bahasa Indonesia Wiki
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Yes, I have been deliberately flattening that hierarchy. Eg. skipping both Malay Archipelago, and Sunda Islands, so you get Southeast Asia : -->
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says "As of January 2006, there is no strong consensus on naming of articles about ethnic groups.", and it lists the exiting naming variations:
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I'm sure everybody knows the trouble with the local geography mentioned above. I, for my part, do know - there much work needed to improve it.
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and was told that Indonesian names in phonebooks are mostly sorted by first name. That makes me even more curious. Can anyone here tell me?Β :)
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Do we even need to create little stubs for seperate peices of closely related info? WOuldn't it be better to just to state in one article that
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Were they any better quality? If so, do we have any friendly admins who we could ask? Or how does one go about making a general admin request--
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No bot or awb work on the WPI tag at this stage - it needs carefull reading of the stubs - however short - to avoid disambig and other issues.
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article has been vastly improved, but there hasn't been too many additions on it for the last few weeks.... maybe we should select a new one?
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Colonial World Fairs: Objects collected in the Netherlands East Indies between 1870 and 1940, and photographs illustrating life in New Guinea.
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BTW Indon, there are many West Sumatra articles without any photos yet, so make sure you visit the right places and take lots of photosΒ ;-) (
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a small percentage might be slightly higher in importance. Please note that I am not putting portal links on article pages at this point .
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regarding bilateral relations between two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now under the scope of
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I agree about the color, this was originally made by Imoeng. However, the color makes people calms down or relax to read, doesn't it?Β :-) β€”
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I'd like to rename the above page to "Indonesian occupation of East Timor". Perhaps someone from this project would care to comment on the
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as a primary source or reference - to confim and agree with Merbabu's comment - the very mode of compostion of these books is an issue of
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Well there used to be a discussion on the Indonesian language Knowledge about this and it is now done like this according to western way.
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If it is POV then it wouldn't get featured. Could somebody point which part of the Indonesia article that has (so-called Western)-POV? β€”
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Eh? What's that article about? I bet the edit is a copy paste from some book/article/website. Wanna race to find the source of it?Β ;-) β€”
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The collaboration appears to be inactive so I am removing it from the community portal. If this becomes active again just add it back.--
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Nothing is really 'finished' and there is plenty of room for improvement and expansion. The writing no doubt needs a fresh set of eyes.
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template. So this infobox is independent from the coordinate formatting, and (4). The earth feature comes from MediaWiki by default. β€”
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Presume that since I got the message I'm just the admin you need. Ok what are the images that need to undeleted I'll have have a look.
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which gives more search results (200-600) in google. Btw, wasnt the aim of those anti-chinese legislations to assimilate the Chinese?
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Weighing in. When there is disambiguity, then we should make a point whether it is "regency" or "city" or "province", etc. Just like
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Cendol seems harmless, but I've read that rice wine (or was it coconut?) was very popular in West Sumatra before the Padri WarsΒ :-) (
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We may be small in numbers (< 30 members currently), but I think we can better organize our project. So, I need other comments. β€”
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The article is about anti-Chinese legislation, not about assimilation. There is no such Indonization term you suggested. Please see
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Red links on lists - there a number of links full of red links - I would like someone to help to create stubs for these if possible.
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It is very important that we are not seen as over reliant upon third rate american based sources - this is the indonesian project?
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on the occupation period, and even something from the viewpoint of Indonesia.There is certainly a lot of scope for improvement. --
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It needs more reliable sources, preferably in English as Indonesian language sources on Indonesian National Heroes can be biased.
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I think this should merged with something - unless a reliable reference for "Civil War in Papua" can be found. Perhaps merge into
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So in the end it all turned out ok - apologies to Talon for sounding a bit bossy - thanks that you are able to join in the fun...
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diff here shows an interesting addition. Long and references are just a list - not in-line. Any thoughts from project members? --
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I just wanted to make an inquiry and get some feedback. I didnt ask about wikipedia policies. I guess i came to the wrong place.
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There are other better examples, since it doesn't have any external carvings. Besides, there is already a whole website for it -
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No problem. I added the coordinates parameter to the infobox. The only other existing island infobox besides the Scottish one is
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Will try to find the logo. BTW, here's a useful site I found which has details on provinces, cities and regencies of Indonesia:
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I would remove the number of Subdistricts and Villages - does this information in itself say anything useful about the regency?
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once we settle on something. We should also address spelling concerns there (which have been discussed here recently as well).
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Thank you for your hardword in the article. I believe GA is higher than A-class in the WikiProject Indonesia case. Congrats! β€”
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Very importantly - due to the status of the article and the total lack of explanation or historical content or context at all
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I wish the new taskforce every success, and would love to contribute where appropriate. Please keep us informed. kind regards
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reviewing the latest on this page i noted my moniker being mentioned - I have just the admin for you - I'll drop a note...Β :)
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The good ones I know in the eastern suburbs are almost as far as Bandung from me. I have to live with Malaysian instead.Β :-) (
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The colour of the page is a bit disconcerting - it does not seem to fit with any symbolism that might be relative to Indonesia
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maps in my poor head:(( There're still exist other maps in the web then Wiki ones, but not without some troubles with names.
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article. Thus, prodding seems like a reasonable measure on behalf of non-Indo-project member, but not sure if I'd support it.
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its mean that the pov of the article comes from west, but i think its ok, the most important things is neutral and accurate
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to sift through and find new articles related to our WikiProject. I believe once there are ones found they will be added to
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as Rigadoun mentioned that this name applies to other countries. If there are other cities with the same name, then we use
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If there is no disambiguation and the primary name is the city then it is written without any additional terms. Examples:
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V useful, thanks for that. Interesting that even this page has a 'no image' notice for logos of Sulbar and Papua Barat! --
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I just created this article. Please check if you can. And, provide links, cats, etc. What stub template should we use? --
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FYI, there was a story the other day which said Indonesia expects to loose 2,000 islands by 2030 due to global warming. (
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Has been shown to two milhist persons - not sure if they might have a clue or two - maybe we might hear from them later
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and its sub-pages are good, but it is somehow confusing to follow for new members especially. The layout was taken from
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So please comment on the layout or give some additional suggestions. Other example of this new template can be seen in
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I also agree we need more REFERENCED CONTRIBUTIONS. Not just copyedits, and not just uncited translations from wiki id.
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Hey guys. Just to let you know that I've given the article another shot, it's been awhile since the last GA. Cheers -
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Thanks for that - In that case someone needs to cleanup our project pages that mention that number for consstency...
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and I think it is good to separate country-specific cities. Besides India, German has a very good infobox city, see
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I might look at it and provide some sources one of these days. However the article needs to be rewritten slightly.
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Agreed, when a list of regencies is presented and described as such, it is preferable to hide the regency suffix. (
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I think all of the necessary articles link to the disambig page have been correctly linked. (I love the toolΒ :-) β€”
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are maintaining it. Could someone with Wiki and Indonesian skills visit the page and add positive contributions?
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Although, i do appreciate being asked even if changes already made would require an admin to revert (if needed).
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I endorse SatuSuro's opinions. Good faith collabration, consultation and respect for the opinion of all is vital.
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has become our collaboration project. Ummm.. How about changing the subject? There are still 4 nominees waiting.
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Hi all. I have activated the Cartography section of this project. Who wants to contribute there? I also made the
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There might be some amongst us with an equal geographic knowledge of the northern neighbour? Maybe, maybe not?
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For anyone not sure what I am on about or where to find discussion - see the spelling - orthography issue - at
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IMO also WP Indonesia members should respect WP policies. it is _not_ your ethnic group articles, dear Michael.
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move other islands of the Malay Archipelago into "Melanesia" < "Islands of Southeast Asia", eg. "new Guinea".
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We will fix all of these disambiguities of Papua's names after proper name of the province. I have filed it at
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which uses the Location map template. It's very handy and good for standardization. So, what's your opinion? β€”
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This is interesting: The United States Government spells both the first two presidents of Indonesia with 'oe'
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re Right! I studied at Adik Irma Elementary School which made by General Nasution Family. The're anty communis
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I agree with the coordinate. I can move the coord below the capital. Actually, I was planning to put the cute
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Being suggested as a good checking device that is not online. Will update or clarify this section over time.
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Why do you think this is important? BTW Michael seems to talk different now, compared to what he did himself
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talk pages have an issue to keep the project up to date with an issue that may well return in another form.
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The capital name and coords are too squashed together - on my screeen the coords are broken across two lines
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Have we asked you why don't you put photos of your wife's RG on the RG article? I mean, you've actually put
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Thanks for inputs. I'll be back & update it later after spending my weekends with my beloved one.Β ;-) β€”
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I'm reluctant to rate it due to my involvement with the article. Maybe we should submit it for GA status? (
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Or should we also include mid-importance? hmmm. Here is the project assessment table to help us decide...
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for Bangka-Belitung to Commons. It is different from the logo shown in the Infobox on the Indonesian Wiki
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various minor changes to prevent duplication of articles in both parent and child cats; and other details.
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Also needed are various less known, old etc. names to be listed in the articles (as they are in Seram):(
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today i am also repairing Cut Nyak Dhien's quality in Indonesian, maybe after that i will try in English
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Sunda, they will have to be positioned side by side in the hierarchy, and some islands assigned to both.
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Okay, then let me see what I can do to upgrade stubbies regencies and cities. They are hundreds!Β :-( β€”
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I think from memory some were better here. SatuSuro should be able to provide advise on admin issues. (
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are completely inconsistent to whether it's Sangir or Sangihe. The Indonesian name of the regency is
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LOL maybe not this week, big day tomorrow. Wish me luck everyone! And thanks SatuSuro for the wishes!
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It reads like a paper, not an encyclopedia article. It's also the eds first and so far only edit. --
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instead as West Papua is indeed the name of the western half of the island. Besides, West Papua (or
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ditto - doesn't work like that. We don't call Germany 'Deutschland'. Why would you want to do this?
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Calming is one thing - identifying a page with red and white in it would be more appropriate IMHO
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a lot of stubs for these. Should we stop until regency and its capitals? Need a consensus here. β€”
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Do we need a sources field - why can't the sources be listed in the normal section of the article?
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abbrv. is only an example. It's an option if the native name differs with the official (see e.g.
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I guess this is why ijuk has been replaced by corrugated iron as the preferred roofing material.
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logo is very poor quality, so keep your eyes open for a better quality copy of that one also. --
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The provincial govt websites were my first port of call (If you mean the 'go.id' pages, such as
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There is a freshly updated dynamic overlay of Knowledge entries for Google Earth available here
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But you've still done the work to find it and set it upΒ :-) Any idea how to get it to work with
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Hey, I'm only the servant. Has somebody read the 2006 Time's Magazine persons of the year? It's
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No problem. This is what WikiProject discussion is used for. Glad to help. Good luck for FA! β€”
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Thanks for the proposal Indon, its great the project is discussing this finally. A few points:
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I'll see what I can do. Adolf Heuken SJ has written many works about Catholicism in Indonesia.
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creation of category "Greater Sunda Islands" < "Melanesia" < "Islands of Southeast Asia".
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I did read some scientific literature on Indonesian wildlife last month... And realized this:
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I see - but it needs a lot of cleanup. I'm horrible in this subject, can someone work on it?--
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the above cite from WP Ethic group is not fully correct. For Elbonian there is a special note.
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is there OK though.) I've also looked at the regional pages on the main govt website, such as
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I will hold off the Malay Archipelago for a while. If anyone would like to discuss, go ahead.
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I found this article and put it into the ID project. Could someone please give it a check. --
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News section is removed. Nobody reads that. We are going to re-activate the newsletter again.
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And more detaled maps of the subregions, smaller groups etc, whith more names where needed.
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can testify to my dedication to verifiability, reliable sources, and careful documentation.
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Yes, that's what it seemed like to me. If you look at the other pages stashed somewhere in
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add all of the islands in Indonesia, Malaysia, East Timor and Brunei, to tese 2 categories.
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as the master list for regencies and cities in Indonesia. Other articles and lists below:
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If you weren't doing it already, a Google search by site may be useful, eg. "site:go.id" (
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Well put David. It's a meaningless category. Shall we make it collab of the fortnight? --
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motivations behind them, with simplistic one or two word labels doesn't cut it. sorry. --
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verifiability, not just more "i wrote it off the top of my head" or "everyone knows it".
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I agree with Indon the site structure needs to be simplified. For example, can we delete
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The Kalimantan article's history section only has one sentence, it should be expanded --
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template. It's simply handy to use only one image and re-used for thousands articles. β€”
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Hey, thanks Rigadoun. Just a little comments before further misunderstanding: (1). the
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remains - otherwise it is unlikely that the red links are justifiable as links at all.
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Province stays the same. There is no ambiguity except for the recently changed name of
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As for that specific airport, I don't even know where Datadawai is. I note there is no
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but again, the pictures are pretty low res. Are these the sites you're referring to? --
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Woops, I didn't read your comment above fully. Could we add an additional parameter to
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I forget where we list these, so I'll put it here. Look at the article and comment at
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Detaled maps of the regions, island groups etc. with _all_ (where possible) the names.
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from here to the Indonesian Knowledge. Now that we've managed to obtain FA status for
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undeveloped article - no point doing something that doesn't need much improvement. --
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I'm gonna find some info from history books, hopefuly I will get some clarification.
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I raises this issue into the project. There is currently the same user with anon IP:
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in some detail - ie, as symbols of the transitional nature of Indonesia at this time
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Knowledge:Pengurus/Pemungutan suara/Hayabusa future untuk oversight 31 Oktober 2007
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Hi guys, it's been a while since we changed the current collaboration article. The
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The New Order (1967-1998) - from the appointment of Suharto as president by the MPR
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of course agreed! I just was kind of lazy to hide the suffix. My proposal would be
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template that shows the milestones of each article, including formerly X status. β€”
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BTW, with ID having 17,508 islands, I hope you are not going to add them allΒ :-) (
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Knowledge:Pengurus/Pemungutan suara/Meursault2004 untuk oversight 31 Oktober 2007
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is problematic. I'll dig sources for the article and see what I can do for it. β€”
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Added Portuguese in Indonesia link - article to be created, but for now links to
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The number of google hits does not relevant with wikipedia policy. Our policy is
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Agree, but please regard the difference between Kalimantan and Borneo history. β€”
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Well, the only ones that I can safely say have definitely been deleted are these
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Oh man, is it gone now? I am planning to go there during my vacation, oh dear! β€”
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Me too. Ah, the article is revamped again heavily from one editor to another. β€”
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into a Featured Article. However, I've been active for over ten years with the
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Hey - can someone fix the map. Kediri is shown as being in Sumatra. Thanks! --
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There is a user who has already been there before who seems to want attention.
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that article?? It's because nobody knows such an assessment in this project. β€”
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of islands, since there is quite a deep hierarchy (eg. Malay Archipelago-: -->
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The source is optional. You can omit it and it's fine. See other examples in
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Cities. This is a bit hard because there are a lot disambiguations for this.
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I'll give them all a transparent background if they don't already have one.--
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On my 2nd thought, how about redirect it to Wajo Regency. (Let me do it). β€”
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Considers influence of landforms and climate on state formation and rulers.
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on our project because of only four edits in a month. Wake up guys!!Β :-) β€”
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http://asnlf.net/asnlf_int/acheh/history/tjutnyakdhien/tjoet_njak_dien.htm
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Have alerted a friendly admin - just hope he turns up and has a squizΒ :)
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The above article, which falls into the scope of this project, is up for
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I've found the most wonderful collection of historic Indonesian photos -
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I would offer to help, but I worry that any of my edits would either be
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How many villages are there in Indonesia, something around 70611?Β ;-) (
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of the world. Within articles, I add only an occasional internal link.
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Exactly - I agree with that - I'll re-write to emphasise that later...
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We're all servants of the big snoopers who watch all this stuff....:)
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I removed also the banner. Sorry, it's too bright and not very useful.
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A more important question concerns the forking of this template from
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is a disputed territory between Australia and Indonesia. Is it true?
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as they were – as you rightly indicate – verifiable and cited using
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If there are disambiguations, then there are already defined names:
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one by one is not the easiest way. I see two main other approaches:
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Go for it. A very undeveloped part of the project. Are you aware of
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think? Or do you have no opinion? If you do, once again, please be
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article. It is now more specifically about 1800 to 1942 - ie, post-
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probably isn't a hoax, but it badly needs references. Any ideas? --
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After this you might be interested in the non-debate at Krakatoa.
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Let's have a consensus here. Oh, and other proposal is welcomed. β€”
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All right, I have been playing with the main page of this project.
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is the preferable, unless if there are other names then it can be
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We already have started creating the individual articles. We have
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A funny thing popped up on my change list... mmmm, yes please... (
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In principle - excellent. However - I am confused by what you say
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that in fact does not fit well with usage. A very apt warning to
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Thanks, and thank you very much for the subsequent improvements.
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Agreed - the specific example and the category are problematic -
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regency name is derived from the Karo people name. Again, IMO. β€”
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I would like to invite you all to participate in a discussion at
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Administrative & geographical names standardization proposal
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But what about alluding to 700+ stubs? Where is the connection?
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A new main page was replaced. The old version can be seen here:
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Sorry, i can't help you on this one except to say, "vampire" =
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Here's a more detailed description of my changes (old template
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We need to get this standardized. I suggest somebody writes up
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ONE big detailed map of Indonesia. As detailed(!) as possible.
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The Portuguese in Malacca and their move to Eastern Indonesia.
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and upload them to Commons with the PD-IDGov tag as used with
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in a few INdonesia articles, why not put her house on too.Β ;)
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However, when I wanted to update some city articles using the
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is supposed to be an article that is ready to be nominated in
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Hey, it's already in a good shape. Good work BesselDekker! β€”
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Knowledge:Featured portal removal candidates/Portal:Indonesia
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and this is already the consensus. Therefore recently I made
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Islands. For all islands we should put the island term as in
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is moving articles around so that the ethnic group name (ie.
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articles. Merbabu's point below needs to be considered too. (
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Liberal Democracy (1949-1959) up to the 1959 return to UUD45
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It's definitely better than the current template. Comments:
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Good point - there are indeed inconsistencies on this issue
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cultural areas, it would take some thoughtful integration.
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Template_talk:Portuguese_overseas_empire#Incorrect_template
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Major upgrade (rebuild?) of "History of Indonesia" template
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General Development Needed: About the Internet in Indonesia
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is a disambiguation page now. There are two new articles:
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3. The Arrival of Europeans in Indonesian (c. 1509-1620)
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Replace (2004-presents) for the earthquake to only (2004).
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for all regencies including ones that have no ambiguities.
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Any work, particularly referencing, would be great.Β :) --
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So far, the main changes I have made to this region are -
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Hahaha. Right, I'm going to list some of the resources. β€”
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Knowledge:Featured article candidates/Adam Air Flight 574
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editor - regardless of apparent experience or notion of
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Please discuss a possible new article name and page move
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Revolution (1945-1949) (up to the Round Table conference)
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Regency. I found a lot of inconsistencies, especially in
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Wah, thats cool. Nice looking article. Congratulations!
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I'm interested in working to make the article about the
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14. The First Steps towards National Revival, c. 1900-27
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damned, it has been a disambig page by that person again
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for me Elbonians and Elbonian people is equal in value.
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firstΒ :-). Oh why didn't you create that page yet. ;P β€”
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Simply brilliant Indon. Thanks a fantastic innovation! (
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That's it for now. I will comment again later, no doubt.
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Effect of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake on Indonesia
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IV - The Emergence of the Idea of Indonesia, c. 1900-42
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icon for the coordinate, but I don't know how to do it.
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we now have a copy of every provincial logo except for
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Actually, I didn't invent that. I was amazed also with
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Welcome aboard, Calupict. Glad that you can join in. β€”
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that is featured article in Indonesian Knowledge? thx
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Until what level we can allow WP articles of regions?
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Fixed up the colour scheme which was all kacau before.
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province. While I'm trying to make the master list of
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and to link to anything else "Indonesian" simply type
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Look who's now showing at today's Picture of the Day?
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Was this discussion ever concluded? I am working on
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Western New Guinea#Indonesian control and resistance
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because they are more events and not themes/periods.
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16. World War II and the Japanese Occupation, 1942-5
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V - The Destruction of the Colonial State, 1942-1950
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If there is disambiguation, then there are options:
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Thats it, I'm booking a flight to Bandung now!Β :-) (
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Go ahead - terus terus - you shouldnt need to askΒ !
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you want right that it must be use EYD right spell.
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Maps and coordinates in the articles about islands.
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calls for - but I'm sure you are aware of this.Β :-)
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III - The Creation of a Colonial State, c.1800-1910
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has cut the incoming links to the latter to 300. --
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I believe my work on 11203:Talk:Silat#Merge_between_Silat_and_Pencak_Silat 9095:Utility of Indonesian Anti-communists category? 8277:province. Let me try to find some resources. β€” 6153:I have no comments about that. I don't know. β€” 5912:needs expanding, which includes the Internet. ( 3719:. It is divided into the following collections: 1640:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_France#Anglicisation 1343:Template_talk:Infobox_City#Red_dot_on_blank_map 288:Knowledge:Indonesia-related_topics_notice_board 90:Looking for information on Prabowo and KOPASSUS 11836:and 'what is that curved island just south of 11820:exact lists of islands in various groups (see 11508:. I thought you guys might be interested. See 8725:Added "Rise of Muslim States" section heading. 7958:5. Literary, Religious and Cultural Legacies 6604:subdistrict seems more about the right size). 6384:know, since I don't live there at the moment. 5467:; it can be country, province or regency name. 5180:These sound pretty reasonable to me. I prefer 1468:Update: OK, i fixed up a whole lot from here: 1131:Template:Country_infobox_data_Christmas_Island 126:of this project has left Knowledge for good, t 9771:Indonesia articles by quality and importance 8835:Similar to the Fauna articles, I put all the 7755: 6141:It is not disputed as far as I can ascertain 5672:, the name of list article should start with 5267:For archipelago I would suggest a convention 4136: 3431:, discussion with a programming guru from NY 1975:, I have been told to discuss it here first. 388:Knowledge:WikiProject_Indonesia/old version 1 130:Knowledge:WikiProject Indonesia/Collaboration 128:This project seems to be abandoned. Only the 11564:unfortunately does not mention the volcano. 11124:isn't a problem, at least on this article. ( 4574:. But where else do you see "X (people)" in 4471:Naming conventions for ethnic group articles 11895:was recently started as a joint project of 11671:Yes, it's a more cultural aspect, so maybe 11230:is sorted as "Soekarnoputri, Megawati" and 7999:15. Repression and Economic Crisis, 1927-42 7948:Indonesian_history#Dutch_East-India_Company 5237:is ready. Feel free to contribute there. β€” 2316:You guys might be interesting to read this 1967:Rationlisation of island-related categories 1941:Indonesia travel article in Washington Post 1683:Could I please have a teh botol bot please 1200:Knowledge:WikiProject Indonesia/Cartography 189:As a consequence I would like to suggest:- 12180:_Nusantara?-2007-09-22T11:02:00.000Z": --> 12175:_Nusantara?-2007-09-22T11:02:00.000Z": --> 12097:editor of February was in fact applying a 11701:Good ideas Rigadoun. Let's get it done. -- 7762: 7748: 5842:Knowledge:WikiProject Indonesia/Monitoring 5475:X, <highest_level_without_disambig: --> 5393:Although I agree with standardisations of 4143: 4129: 3035:. Please see what we can do to give this 1865:Knowledge:WikiProject Endangered languages 1858:Knowledge:WikiProject Endangered languages 1841:I don't see any reason not to cite them. ( 1805:You probably already know Google Scholar ( 11079:article a lot which is now revamped from 10654:Please put your comments here. regards -- 7971:8. Java, Madura and the VOC, c. 1680-1745 7963:II - Struggles for Hegemony, c. 1630-1800 7954:4. The Rise of New States, c. 1500-1650 5690:List of Central Java regencies and cities 5678:List of regencies and cities of Indonesia 5662:List of regencies and cities of Indonesia 5312:Re:Caniago: Except for Java of courseΒ :-) 5089:List of regencies and cities of Indonesia 4398:List of regencies and cities of Indonesia 2628:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Southeast Asia 1986:(which is improving), and in particular, 1768:don't have to go all the way to Bandung. 1426:What's stopping us just putting it back? 11193:A user is really persistent to separate 11010:Thanks a bunch -all helps.Β :) cheers, 10875:id:Pembicaraan Knowledge:Artikel pilihan 10844:Oh, I thought we're still talking about 9820: 9117:Now it has no articles. I say delete. -- 7838:Put / link for each sub-history section. 5597:User:AlexNewArtBot/IndonesiaSearchResult 3862:A Southeast Asian task force within the 11374:Thanks in advance for your comments. – 9940: 8841:Category:Indonesian National Revolution 5850:Category:Start-Class Indonesia articles 5812:Template:List of Regencies of Indonesia 4761:, but the name is used as redirect for 4749:. Somebody has made a move but alas to 744:I did some. I used the list from here: 445:Otherwise being simpler - it is better! 404:Infobox is still needed to be modified. 345:Anybody can look into my sandbox here: 94:I am involved in trying to improve the 14: 11504:is currently under A-Class review by 10908:. Otherwise, please drop the issue. -- 9904: 8273:I heard about that when I'm improving 442:Good that membership is on a sub page! 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 9862: 8932:Most of those were probably stubs by 8091:Anti-Chinese legislation in Indonesia 8019:18. The Democratic Experiment, 1950-7 6682:Someone's playing silly buggers with 4124: 4058:uuuh Tobias talks of joint effortΒ :-) 3989:We certainly do NOT need to call it ( 3011:. I am going to redirect the page. β€” 2709:has now been passed for the article. 1994:(which is still quite disorganised). 411:Please give me your comments here. β€” 11903:. Editors who are writing about the 9978: 9976: 9471:I redirected it for now at least to 8839:articles in sub-categories, such as 8700:(1600 to 1800 approx) from existing 5816:Template:List of Cities of Indonesia 5155:Rivers. Similar with islands, as in 4967:I have fully translated the article 1920:No, it's not in Knowledge. Here, at 25: 18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Indonesia 11112:The problematic editor is actually 9101:Category:Indonesian anti-communists 8968:looked like a popular candidate. -- 8691:History_of_Indonesia#The_Portuguese 8023:20. Creating the New Order, 1965-75 7986:12. The Outer Islands, c. 1800-1910 7905:I - The Emergence of the Modern Era 7779:Independent Indonesia (since 1945) 5894:it is piled up in one article, the 5591:I've attempted to set up a feed by 4576:Category:Ethnic groups in Indonesia 4556:!. Be surprised where this goes to. 4477:Knowledge:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups 2322:Wikipedia_talk:Knowledge is failing 1405:Once more, a disambig fan has made 23: 11287:How about creating article called 8728:Cleaned up dates and their format. 8099:Cultural assimilation in Indonesia 7967:6. Eastern Indonesia, c. 1630-1800 5128:, or with the province name as in 4019:to the Banjar architecture issue. 3845:is the perfect nominee, isn't it? 3336:I've just added an infobox to the 2361:Knowledge overlay for Google Earth 1988:Category:Islands of Southeast Asia 24: 12297: 12235:Indonesian invasion of East Timor 12093:Which in turn shows that the now 12044:. 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Ie, 1401:Indonesian is disambiguation now 1347:Template:Infobox German Location 939:we still need infobox of islands 806:, much less cited in most cases. 723:For the multicultural amongst us 683:You direct to a locked page?Β :( 29: 12192:and offer an opinion please. -- 12036:Personally, I think the use of 11982:. It's also the same case with 11469:.) Thanks for your feedback. – 10848:. Okay, but which sentences in 9627:I think it's a school paper. β€” 8684:History_of_Indonesia#Prehistory 7973:9. Java and the VOC, c. 1745-92 7901:I have written it out below... 6344:Our lovely portal is reviewed: 4859:WP:RM#Uncontroversial proposals 2117:are interlinked on this one... 2065:"Islands by ocean or sea" : --> 1459:00:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC) -- 12212:at Featured Article candidates 12198:11:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 10852:which have the western POV? β€” 9761:(b) "high" to "top" priority. 9539:18:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC) 9525:11:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 9510:09:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 9480:11:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 9467:02:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC) 9412:13:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 8875:Category:Reptiles of Indonesia 8789:I also used it as a chance to 8644:Timeline of Indonesian History 8085:The closest thing i found are 7444:French and British interregnum 6371:Evolution and public education 6320:id:Kabupaten Kepulauan Sangihe 3923:Bilateral relations discussion 3901:Indonesian National Revolution 3656:Watching this conversation - " 2995:user talk for the user Syahrir 2318:Knowledge:Knowledge is failing 2188:basic fact about the country? 2153:Knowledge:Conflict of interest 1155:List of volcanoes in Indonesia 1153:With the recent experience of 13: 1: 12287:23:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC) 12259:23:19, 27 December 2007 (UTC) 12228:02:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC) 11876:23:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC) 11855:23:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC) 11772:14:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC) 11763:13:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC) 11745:12:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC) 9572:kalau semua orang disini gila 9451:12:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC) 9433:05:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC) 9371:06:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC) 9362:06:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC) 9340:22:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9329:Category talk:Anti-communists 9311:04:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9286:03:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9268:03:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9245:03:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9222:03:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9213:03:14, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9167:03:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9143:03:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 9122:22:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC) 9112:17:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC) 9084:15:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC) 9075:15:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC) 9055:15:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC) 9044:15:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC) 9033:13:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC) 9019:Somebody has actively created 9005:23:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 8988:23:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 8973:17:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 8944:16:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 8920:15:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC) 8900:14:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC) 8885:Category:Insects of Indonesia 8870:Category:Mammals of Indonesia 8848:14:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC) 8837:Category:History of Indonesia 8831:Category:History of Indonesia 8823:10:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC) 8805:05:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC) 8021:19. Guided Democracy, 1957-65 7797:The Reform Era (1998-present) 6036:There is a proposal to merge 5720:Regency (country subdivision) 5298:Agree with everything else. ( 4905:West Irian Jaya redirects to 3935:WikiProject Foreign relations 2912:Image:Bangka belitung coa.png 2415:23:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC) 2392:22:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC) 2373:11:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC) 2350:15:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC) 2341:11:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC) 2329:01:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC) 2300:04:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC) 2282:09:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2264:08:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2243:08:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2223:08:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2208:08:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2193:08:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2175:08:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2160:03:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 2145:02:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC) 889:Hi all. I have renovated the 12168:09:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC) 12010:08:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC) 11969:00:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC) 11957:00:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC) 11942:15:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC) 11919:11:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC) 11729:04:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC) 11706:21:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 11697:15:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 11684:12:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 11667:11:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 11649:11:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 11625:03:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 11614:23:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 11596:22:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 11569:04:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 11562:Kamus Besar Bahasa Indonesia 11551:00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 11528:14:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC) 11484:06:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC) 11421:23:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC) 11389:22:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC) 11365:East Timor Action Network/US 11345:09:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC) 11335:14:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC) 11324:07:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC) 11315:maybe this can be a source? 11310:20:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC) 11300:02:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC) 11278:23:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC) 11252:21:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC) 11242:21:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC) 11217:08:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC) 11175:13:59, 23 October 2007 (UTC) 11159:14:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC) 11150:17:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC) 11129:15:40, 21 October 2007 (UTC) 11107:14:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC) 11068:Important: cleaning-up Silat 11054:14:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC) 11026:14:35, 23 October 2007 (UTC) 11006:14:26, 23 October 2007 (UTC) 10986:15:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC) 10972:05:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 10929:13:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC) 10913:15:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC) 10896:15:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC) 10864:10:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC) 10839:05:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC) 10826:07:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC) 10809:07:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC) 10797:12:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 10788:12:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 10774:12:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 10761:12:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 10735:08:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC) 10670:07:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 9734:12:15, 12 October 2007 (UTC) 9725:07:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC) 9708:01:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC) 8392: 8025:21. The New Order since 1975 7788:Guided Democracy (1959-1965) 7332:Kingdom of Bolaang Mongondow 6406:Infobox Regency of Indonesia 6397:Infobox Regency of Indonesia 5601:User:AlexNewArtBot/Indonesia 3864:Military History WikiProject 2686:The editor has submitted to 2183:How many island in Indonesia 2125:03:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC) 2102:03:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC) 2071:17:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC) 2058:17:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC) 2043:17:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC) 2027:16:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC) 1961:22:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC) 1936:09:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC) 1911:08:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC) 1876:03:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC) 1846:04:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC) 1837:15:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC) 1819:10:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC) 1790:15:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1777:14:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1759:14:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1748:13:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1723:13:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1714:13:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1705:13:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1688:11:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1675:11:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC) 1658:19:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC) 1648:17:59, 22 January 2007 (UTC) 1633:09:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC) 1611:06:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC) 1601:05:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC) 1587:04:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC) 1567:14:28, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1555:14:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1527:11:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1510:10:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1497:04:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1487:04:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1476:02:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1464:00:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1431:00:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 1421:19:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1387:16:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1361:16:13, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1319:14:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1296:14:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1278:12:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1247:12:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1237:10:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC) 1169:19:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 1148:18:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 1138:18:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 1123:16:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 1106:15:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 1096:15:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 1055:08:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 1032:23:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC) 1016:12:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC) 1007:12:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC) 989:10:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC) 968:05:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC) 958:03:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC) 946:02:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC) 929:23:38, 12 January 2007 (UTC) 915:22:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC) 875:13:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC) 849:13:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC) 824:11:55, 12 January 2007 (UTC) 811:11:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC) 796:11:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC) 779:11:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC) 558:Useful resources subpage (?) 98:article, which has enormous 7: 12274:. Please leave comments at 11986:when Michael moved it into 11222:Sorting of Indonesian names 10659:13:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9689:11:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9660:11:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9648:10:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9639:10:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9623:10:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9606:10:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9586:09:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 9560:05:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC) 9515:30 tahun Indonesia merdeka 9498:Transition to the New Order 9438:I'm inclined to agree with 8862:Category:Birds of Indonesia 8858:Category:Fauna of Indonesia 8853:Category:Fauna of Indonesia 8752:10:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC) 8651: 8616:Transition to the New Order 8577:Declaration of Independence 8530:The Portuguese in Indonesia 8370:18:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC) 8344:09:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 8305:08:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 8289:07:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 8268:03:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 8243:03:10, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 8234:13:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 8217:13:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 8190:05:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 8179:14:08, 25 August 2007 (UTC) 8147:02:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC) 8128:21:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC) 8108:15:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC) 8080:06:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC) 8063:06:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 8034:06:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 8010:17. The Revolution, 1945-50 7939:The early years of the VOC. 7887:06:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 7873:12:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC) 7855:08:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC) 7828:08:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC) 7808:06:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC) 6839:Hindu and Buddhist kingdoms 6713:Indonesian History Template 6705:16:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6691:13:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6662:22:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6612:16:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6597:16:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6555:16:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6496:15:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6489:Template:Infobox Settlement 6449:11:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 6389:06:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC) 6378:01:38, 17 August 2007 (UTC) 6188:Ashmore and Cartier Islands 6120:Ashmore and Cartier Islands 6111:Ashmore and Cartier Islands 5910:Communications in Indonesia 5896:Indonesia Internet Exchange 5144:Mounts/Volcanoes. I prefer 3858:Military History task force 3783:Category:Flora_of_Indonesia 1992:Category:Islands of Oceania 1884:Recognized contents section 1220:Infobox Indian jurisdiction 894:Infobox Island of Indonesia 761:23:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 752:23:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 739:12:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 713:14:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 704:14:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 688:13:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 675:13:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 655:13:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 640:13:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 624:13:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 614:13:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 594:13:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 585:13:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 575:12:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC) 553:13:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC) 528:09:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC) 511:07:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC) 491:12:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 480:10:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 456:10:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 423:09:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 381:08:07, 5 January 2007 (UTC) 364:10:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC) 326:12:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC) 315:11:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC) 295:09:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC) 278:17:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC) 225:15:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC) 175:12:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC) 111:14:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC) 10: 12302: 12177:Rename: Malay World =: --> 12118:04:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC) 12085:22:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC) 12072:10:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC) 11901:WikiProject Southeast Asia 10706:Portuguese overseas empire 10678:Portuguese overseas empire 9183:Sorry - the project needs 9135:both within a week or so. 8890:Category:Fish of Indonesia 8554:The emergence of Indonesia 8438:(8th & 9th centuries) 8015:VI - Independent Indonesia 7893:Ricklefs table of contents 7513:United States of Indonesia 7350:Chinese Kongsi federations 6360:07:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC) 5003:13:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 4993:08:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC) 4976:22:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC) 4958:11:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC) 4930:17:27, 22 April 2007 (UTC) 4873:08:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC) 4841:03:28, 22 April 2007 (UTC) 4827:19:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC) 4795:10:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC) 4777:10:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC) 4727:03:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 4711:01:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 4694:00:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 4668:05:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC) 4647:03:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 4631:18:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 4615:Tobias, we all know about 4607:16:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 4593:16:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 4518:05:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 4466:19:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 4429:20:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC) 4414:13:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 4115:just like it is done here: 4110:13:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 4100:13:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 4075:20:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC) 4038:21:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC) 4024:13:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 4013:13:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 4001:13:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 3977:04:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 3806:It has been a while since 3698:Historic Indonesian photos 3453:12:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC) 3439:13:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC) 3423:13:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC) 3407:07:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC) 3372:13:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC) 3362:12:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC) 3320:10:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC) 3305:23:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC) 3288:22:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC) 3064:Image:West_Sumatra_coa.svg 3044:09:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC) 3023:08:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC) 3002:08:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC) 2968:16:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC) 2947:16:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC) 2930:16:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC) 2910:I just uploaded this logo 2088:Hartriono_B._Sastrowardoyo 2035:Lesser Sunda Islands-: --> 772:Template:Malaysia-geo-stub 747:Is that the list you mean? 138:Indonesia-related articles 12143:18:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC) 12057:09:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC) 12040:is still relevant. So is 12024:15:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC) 10643: 10635: 10623: 9780: 9775: 9770: 9700:Kedukan Bukit Inscription 9694:Kedukan Bukit Inscription 9547:New article discovered - 9013:Villages and subdistricts 8956:New Current Collaboration 8476:The rise of Muslim states 7664:Javanese historical texts 6335:07:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC) 6296:17:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC) 6280:14:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC) 6261:14:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC) 6249:14:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC) 6233:14:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC) 6223:13:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC) 6198:09:19, 24 June 2007 (UTC) 6182:09:15, 24 June 2007 (UTC) 6165:08:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC) 6149:07:11, 24 June 2007 (UTC) 6134:05:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC) 6097:09:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC) 6087:18:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC) 4914:is a disambiguation link. 4899:Papua Barat redirects to 4741:It's been confirmed that 4394: 4336: 4325: 4169: 4159: 3948:18:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC) 3911:06:42, 8 April 2007 (UTC) 3892:06:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC) 3876:06:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC) 3850:21:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC) 3835:08:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC) 3826:08:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC) 3815:06:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC) 3794:08:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC) 3772:07:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC) 3755:Flora of Indonesia images 3746:14:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC) 3710:16:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC) 3686:09:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3669:09:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3638:09:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC) 3628:10:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3608:09:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3594:08:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3573:08:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3558:Architecture of Indonesia 3535:08:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3527:Architecture of Indonesia 3508:07:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3490:Architecture of Indonesia 3476:07:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC) 3261:14:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3246:13:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3223:12:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3212:12:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3200:12:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3185:12:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3164:11:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3153:11:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3138:11:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3120:11:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 3087:20:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC) 3076:15:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC) 2896:12:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 2881:09:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 2745:12:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC) 2729:07:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC) 2702:11:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC) 2681:10:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC) 2671:10:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC) 2642:12:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC) 2621:12:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC) 2603:21:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC) 2587:13:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC) 2566:10:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2556:09:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2549:http://bundohadjisah.org/ 2542:09:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2521:09:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2506:09:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2495:09:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2480:08:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2463:03:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2452:02:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 2425:destroyed by fire (again) 2253:The UN says 17,508 - see 1020:Of course, Imoeng.Β ;-) β€” 116:Re-activating the project 11797:So ARE HAAAARDLY neded: 11189:Your comments are needed 9325:Category:Anti-communists 9157:Category:Anti-communists 8769:Dutch East India Company 8698:Dutch East India Company 8538:Dutch East India Company 7909:1. The Coming of Islam 7424:Dutch East India Company 7065:Samudera Pasai Sultanate 6532:User talk:Indon/sandbox2 6435:User talk:Indon/sandbox2 6077:17:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC) 6067:16:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC) 6049:09:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC) 6025:08:54, 8 June 2007 (UTC) 6002:04:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC) 5992:04:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC) 5977:03:54, 8 June 2007 (UTC) 5955:10:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC) 5946:20:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC) 5930:15:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC) 5917:08:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC) 5903:05:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC) 5879:23:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC) 5864:17:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC) 5830:09:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC) 5799:04:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC) 5784:04:25, 13 May 2007 (UTC) 5754:02:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC) 5742:18:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC) 5645:07:42, 12 May 2007 (UTC) 5628:19:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC) 5132:. Which one do you like? 4969:Catholicism in Indonesia 4963:Catholicism in Indonesia 4893:West Papua redirects to 4495:Elbonians (ethnic group) 4151:Regencies and cities of 4054:departments of Argentina 3266:OK, as you can see from 3082:PD-IDGov is ok to use. ( 3039:a valid Wiki pressence. 2079:The Sastrowardoyo Family 390:. Basically what I did: 9698:After trying to expand 8382:This article is part of 6237:Second to M. Agreed. β€” 5746:altered above slightly 5611:22:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC) 5579:09:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC) 5553:08:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC) 5508:07:24, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5434:14:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5421:13:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5403:13:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5389:Important qualification 5384:13:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5371:07:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5348:01:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5331:07:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5321:01:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5303:00:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC) 5249:16:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 5226:16:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 5205:16:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 5175:16:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 5053:02:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 5031:01:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 5022:01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 5013:00:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC) 4678:Indonesian stub prodded 3234:Image:Logo Bengkulu.jpg 2997:page is here. Thanks! 1075:Infobox Scottish island 728:14 Problem at Malaysian 206:few who are interested. 12188:See the discussion on 11556:I agree in preferring 11330:least some! 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Last but not least: 4452:New York, Lincolnshire 3427:Whats needed is a hot 3346:Mataram (city)|Mataram 3007:The article should be 2626:And here is the link: 1577:Using Indonesian terms 1370:Location map Indonesia 1192:Location map Indonesia 11404:are slippery, rather 10882:Religion in Indonesia 10879: 10850:Religion in Indonesia 10833:Religion in Indonesia 9682:Talk:Prabowo Subianto 8593:Independent Indonesia 8165:neutral point of view 8087:New Order (Indonesia) 7530:Republic of Indonesia 7396:European colonization 7295:Riau-Lingga Sultanate 6172:caution opinion piece 5936:Internet in Indonesia 5835:Monitoring categories 5078:West Papua (province) 4936:Religion in Indonesia 4907:West Papua (province) 4901:West Papua (province) 4887:West Papua (province) 4833:West Papua (province) 4813:West Papua (province) 4784:West Papua (province) 4759:West Papua (province) 4757:actually, instead of 4747:West Papua (province) 3612:Yes, the category is 3385:Somebody has jut put 2485:Man, what a shame. -- 1867:is up and running at 1617:There are already at 1314:supports our needs. 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Thank you! 11272: 11268: 11257: 11253: 11250: 11249:Meursault2004 11246: 11245: 11244: 11243: 11240: 11236: 11233: 11232:Agung Laksono 11229: 11219: 11218: 11214: 11208: 11204: 11200: 11196: 11186: 11176: 11172: 11166: 11162: 11161: 11160: 11157: 11153: 11152: 11151: 11147: 11141: 11137: 11133: 11132: 11130: 11127: 11123: 11120:. 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Prabowo
NPOV
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Adam keller
14:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Great Creator
Knowledge:WikiProject Indonesia/Collaboration
Merbabu
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WP:INA
WP:IND
WP:INA
WP:MILHIST
Indon
reply
12:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
SatuSuro
15:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
WP:GAC
WP:FAC
Knowledge:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment#Requests_for_A-Class_status
Indon

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