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for example). They are very accomplished (at least at the NCAA level) and their pages should reflect this. However, I can see how people would think that the elite-level gymnasts (like Jade, Suni, Jordan, etc) shouldn't have these medals because there are much more high-level meets that they can get
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input at all. And it's being challenged because we just noticed it. This could affect almost every single tennis and Olympic article we have, and goodness know how many other sports. Some may have already been moved it you weren't watching the article. And not just the article titles will be affected
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I could go either way as I don't have a strong opinion. I do tend to lean toward your opinion, though, as the information is already covered in the qualifications section and those participants did not make the individual all-around. Additionally, it looks like for other events (balance beam, uneven
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I've been thinking about this a lot with the Olympics that were just held as well as the NCAA's place in it. Established precedent seems to be not including NCAA information in infoboxes. I previously, having worked heavily on men's NCAA articles, had reservations. I now believe that if someone with
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I am fine with these sections being removed. I'm assuming part of the reason why they're there is to show who was 2/3-per-countried out of the final, but this can be achieved by showing qualification results up to the final reserve instead of showing the placement of every single gymnast (e.g.
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One reason I say to include NCAA Championships is that NCAA gymnasts popularity is rapidly growing (at least in the United States). Many NCAA gymnasts are getting their own wikipedia pages (and I'm talking about those who are only known for their NCAA careers and either were never elite-level
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Hello, community! I come as a fairly new member, although have been an editor for quite some time with other projects. I've embarked on updating information regarding US MAG and associated biographies and noticed an inconsistency with "consensus" and what's actually occurring and hope to seek
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I've noticed that several articles about Olympic all around competitions include a section called Remaining Placings. I am of the opinion that these are unnecessary since this is covered in the qualifications page and the lists include athletes who didn't compete on all appartuses during
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and thus warrant inclusion in Knowledge. Furthermore, all of these examples are notable because they are gymnasts. As such, their gymnastic accomplishments should be reflected since "...the purpose of an infobox: to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article..." per
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I have started with generally older US MAG athlete profiles (Olympics, mainly, up until the mid-1950's). These biographies generally do not align with NCAA records and championships, but I've now started to encounter some for which that's applicable (e.g.
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Just wondered if anyone knew of any potential sources for gymnast photos from this era? Avener competed in the 1972 and 1976 Olympics, along with many other competitions, so I hope something is out there. Thanks in advance for any advice or help.
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Some of the most high-profile, American gymnasts with collegiate backgrounds currently have collegiate information/medals/placements in their infoboxes, which seems to be against what's been established by the Project as
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If in practice we are now putting NCAA placements in infoboxes, do these also include the collegiate logos? Each example I noted above had them, however when I tried to mimic it was immediately removed.
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NCAA experience has other, more important, notable results (Olympics, Worlds, continental championships, etc.) the NCAA should not be used following the guidance given at
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but all the player bios that link to the articles. Sure the links would be piped to the right place if thousands of articles moved, but if the wording in a bio still said
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Perhaps this is what sports projects want and perhaps not. Either way I certainly don't want projects ill-informed as the last RfC was handled. Express your thoughts at
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has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the
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bars, etc.) they also don't include "Remaining Placings" so it would be bringing the all around section in line with the others.
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qualifications. Before changing the articles, I thought I would get the opinion of the rest of the gymnastics project.
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gymnasts or were only at the elite level briefly that they really never got an international experience –
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I seek guidance from this group as a new member of this project so I can continue to create accordingly.
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that would likely need to be changed by hand. There is also talk of removing the ndash completely.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Gymnastics at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Women's artistic individual all-around - Knowledge
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Gymnastics at the 2000 Summer Olympics – Women's artistic individual all-around - Knowledge
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Gymnastics at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Women's artistic individual all-around - Knowledge
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I’ve come across several articles that say all round. The correct term is all around.
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Gymnastics at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Women's artistic individual all-around
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I say all that to ask: what are we doing here and how do we proceed forward?
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I tend to agree. With the examples you've provided above, they clearly meet
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medals for and the NCAA Champs are not that prestigious in comparison.
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Swimming at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Men's 200 metre backstroke
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