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two (and please dont say that last name in front of me again :D) Eftekasat are quite important since 1) They are one of the very first Jazz bands in Egypt (and i'm sure you know by now that Egypt coming up with a Jazz band is a miracle in itself!) 2) They are international. 3) They are one of the very first
Egyptian bands to make an album! 4) They are involved greatly in the local Music scene (probably more than any other Egyptian band) since on average they do about 2 or 3 concerts a month (in Cairo and/or Alexandria) and they were invited to several SOS festivals (not sure how many though :)) 5) I dont see why they shouldnt be given more than 'mid' if we compared them to Umm Kulthum! :P:D I mean, ya Umm Kulthum is probably the most notable singer in Egypt (and probably the Middle East) but so is Eftekasat. I mean, please provide a 'greater' or more notable band than Eftekasat. :)
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So can we do a voting or something Zerida? And about
Egyptians not being familiar with that group, well not many know about Redeemers but they are quite important since they are the first Symphonic Metal band in Egypt (and they are quite good too :P)! And Badagnani, with all due respect to the former
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Hi guys, long time no see! I just have a few questions about the notability at the
English Knowledge on Arabic/Egyptian related matters. As most of you know, it's pretty hard to find sources over the internet that proves the notability of those stuff even though they are quite important. But when I
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Language schools dont neglect Arabic! :S Maybe they have their "talk
English during breaks" rules but in Arabic classes, its taught quite well, boring but well! And by the way i dont hate 'classic' Arabic; i hate Arabic. I'm obliged to talk Arabic so people would understand me, but if i dont need to
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Hi guys, what's up?! Look, if possible, could someone please recheck the importance of the article since
Eftekasat are a very important aspect of Egyptian Music as they were invited to perform at the Carthage Jazz Festival in Tunis and therefore they became an international Egyptian band (probably
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They are called WAMA! But they are not notable since they just released some stuff, made a little fuss, did a few concerts and then died. So? I dont even hear their name now! Another band was MTM but they like WAMA released a couple of albums, made a little fuss and believe me, even among all my
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However, disregarding all my stated reasons, the fact that
Eftekasat are (as far as i know) the first international Egyptian band is an important stop in the history of Egyptian Music. They are probably the first Egyptian band to release an album too! A whole new era is coming up and that is
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