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3005:, it seems to be staffed primarily by young writers, with little in the way of qualifications or experience elsewhere, so I'd be hesitant to use them if there's a better source, but they do have a clear editorial policy, a mission with a good focus on accuracy, influence to get interviews, and no major issues I can see other than the lack of experience which are positives. Considering the niche nature of anime though and approved sources (such as ANN) also having inexperienced/younger writers without qualifications / EiC without journalism qualification / etc which seem to be used as arguments against in other areas, I'd consider using them. 774:, and so on. I did some searches to verify her contributions to these publications, but haven't yet found them (it doesn't really help that her bio being copied everywhere into the footer of articles she wrote for other sites already mentions means that searching for them tends to yield those articles). I'm also not sure how much of them I'd be able to access since at least a few of the purported sources that she's supposedly written for or been reviewed in might be print sources or paywalled journals, but I'll keep looking on that front. 940:). I think it's a little misleading of her to say these count as "writing for" those outlets, but whatever. The Quora answers are also totally unrelated to her media reviews, mostly consisting of her espousing her views on social topics, and the original listing of her did already caveat that she's generally only reliable for anime/manga-related reviews and interviews and shouldn't be used for controversial topics, so this might not really change anything. I guess I'll leave that to others to have an opinion on. 35: 1397:- ANN was recently acquired by Kadokawa. While they have stated that they will remain independent, it may be worth keeping an eye on if approved. Both for increasing the ads and pressures to be positive about Kadokawa work. This isn't anything new for a website to be owned by an industry company or otherwise to receive money from them such as advertising, but issues have occasionally been highlighted before for other sites. A notable case being the 2270:. It doesn't look like they've covered much anime in any level of detail, but their website design is terrible enough that it makes finding it difficult and much of the stuff listed under reviews are actually just release blurbs. That said, some of their reviews aren't much more than a description with few lines of opinion added either. Is there further information that suggests it's reliable in the Knowledge sense? 1539:). And while it is true that Knowledge perhaps relies too much on ANN, I think this is just simply a case of ANN being really the only major anime-dedicated website in English. Regarding their recent partial acquisition by Kadokawa, while I am skeptical, ANN has been partially owned by Bandai for quite awhile and still reports fairly neutrally on that, so I am giving ANN the benefit of the doubt for now. 1221:. However, that discussion was based on just the first two articles posted to that feed (which happened to be of low quality), and only one person in that discussion (Dinoguy1000) affirmatively said that warranted a label of 'unreliable'; everyone else was either just bringing up the question for debate (Farix) or providing contextual information (AnmaFinotera, Shiroi Hane, Calathan). Looking at the 2596:). But anyways, looking into their anime articles, it seems like the vast majority are written by John F. Trent and Nerdigans Inc. However, for Trent I honestly could not find a single other publication he has written for (which is bad considering his page claims he is their editor-in-chief) and for Nerdigans Inc, they wrote one article for 1404:- While not an issue with ANN itself, the writers there do seem to typically fall politically left and are often negative about sexual topics or fanservice. This isn't a problem with ANN, but some articles seem to almost exclusive cite ANN without providing any opposing views to the point that there has been at least one (presumably false!) 399:, respectively. Generally, for reviews at least, this, Screen Rant and Game Rant are fine sources I guess. On the other hand, Comicbook.com, especially those articles by Megan Peters (which are not few), are usually based on leaks, unconfirmed rumours, random posts on Twitter and similar stuff, so I don't think that they are reliable. 1831:, it seems to be staff primarily by young writers, with little in the way of qualifications or experience elsewhere, so I'd be hesitant, but they do have a clear editorial policy, a mission with a good focus on accuracy, influence to get interviews, and no major issues I can see other than the lack of experience which are positives. 2349:, Begin asking for public review submission, which eventually led to the birth of the Editorial team. MJ Review Team officially formed, it was later renamed to the MJ Editorial Team, with Firedog heading the team as its Editor-in-Chief. On April 17, 2006, Manga Jouhou launched ComiPress, a spin-off site to expand its news coverage 1411:- Just generally that as with any source reliable or not, it should be scrutinized and used carefully when it comes to evidence for points to include on the Wiki page - that something being on ANN doesn't mean it's the definitive fact, and that it does report on opinions and based on limited sources in some articles. The 3045:
But yes, we should be thorough and take extra care if citing them. Their news posts seem to list the sources clearly, so it's just a matter of scrutinizing them. Interviews cite the interviewee and reviews are more a matter of extending a level of trust regarding accuracy of information and that it's
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It's worth noting that the gendered language in the subtitles are the main topic of the article. The censored video elements of Onimai were done by Japan, but the subtitles may be another matter, so this may not be inaccurate. @tomoyo_0810's portfolio doesn't list whether they work for Crunchyroll as
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They make sweeping statements showing their bias and my gut feeling is unreliable after reading the articles unrelated to anime that were linked, but I could see arguments against it being subjective rather than unreliable as the actual information the anime posts are based on seems to be correct for
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Regarding Latest Anime News, I dismissed it as unreliable because their contributors are completely unverified and it seems like they allow anyone to write for them, which means they have little to no editorial control. As far as Anime Corner, I admit that I am not very familiar with this website, so
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a lot more often than the the specialty sources), so we can't rely on them for our sourcing. What matters, ultimately, I think, is that the people working on these sources have at least done a basic degree of due diligence and they get the things that matter to us right, most of the the time, when it
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This is an openly political resource with a rather open and clear intention of reviewing and studying the media from the point of view of a certain ideology, then the question is obvious. But at the moment I haven't seen them being cited around that as an undeniably objective source, so I don't quite
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I suppose that citing ComicBook.com is fine as long as their reports are not based on leaks, comments, and posts from random people out there. I personally just know them for news articles, so if better, more reliable sources reporting the same stuff are available, I don't know for what other purpose
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Sorry didn't get back to this sooner - I'm not seeing anything in the history link for MangaJouhou that helps make it reliable. Just the nature of scanlation and anonymous staff makes it difficult, since they're not qualified in a measurable way or in professional positions. It doesn't really confer
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I'd not want to dismiss a source immediately for something along those lines unless it's necessary, and considering some of the common practices in academia and the occasional self-published website that's considered reliable, it does make me wonder if anything directly states that only paid writers
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I tried finding ANN's or some third party's characterization of differences between the different feeds, but couldn't find any. Based on the staff section, they do appear to be different "departments" with different editors. Every article on the "News" feed reads like it was taken directly from some
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I do agree that Latest Anime News are unreliable. There's no statement of editorial control, there's a lack of consistency in some ways that imply a lack of editor (for example of three news writers, one always links Youtube, one Twitter, and one nothing for videos), no experience or qualifications
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for reliability? A lot of anime websites run on volunteer writers, to the point that if it doesn't directly state that it does pay, it might be more likely that it doesn't than it does (and most don't seem to state either way). The same issue exists in gaming, with many websites 'paying' by sending
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As a participant in that discussion and a frequent questioner of ANN as a source, I don't mind as long as it is sufficiently attributed and objectively described. I mean, I don't mind using the site as a news source, a source for original articles like Frog-kun's stuff, or a source for reviews, but
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publication (he did a Makoto Shinkai interview with them). I think besides some of those cases, ANN is a good comparison since I think a good number of the writers from there gained prominence/"notability" through their tenures with ANN rather than already having experience (even some of the older
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has often been cited, has a clear editorial policy, a mission with a good focus on accuracy, influence to get interviews, and no major issues that I can see. But it seems to be staff primarily by young writers, with little in the way of qualifications or experience elsewhere. Would that disqualify
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My take would be that she's probably fine as a source of opinion, at least, and maybe okay as a source of facts in interviews, so long as they're not about anyone uninvolved, but likely wouldn't count towards notability. Still, I'm not completely certain, especially since I've not yet been able to
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Like I said above, my problem with Latest Anime News is not that they don't provide monetary compensation, but rather their (pretty much) lack of any real editorial control. The way their apply page is worded makes it sound like they let pretty much anyone write for them without any experience in
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On the topic of reader polls, I think Knowledge does a poor job of reporting and summarizing general audience reaction to a work, focusing only on professional critic reactions to the exclusion of all else. Any reliable sources that report substantively and accurately on what regular people think
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Well, as far as I know anyway, their news at least are based on primary sources or reliable secondary sources, never based on leaks, random Twitter rumors or something like that. The nickname thing maybe it's just me being nitpicking, so if no one has an issue with that, I see no problem with the
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And particularly for opinions (which is what was initially being debated at the Onimai page), I'd say that there's generally a lot less to be concerned over in practical terms- the verification for the writer of a review having an opinion on a piece of media is self-evident in the review itself,
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which is another issue sometimes brought up over there to dismiss a source as unreliable. I'd agree. It seems that their standards don't really apply here. In general, a lot of their reliability criteria also comes from a dynastic view of having worked for another website that's deemed reliable,
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Regarding ANN being relied upon too much, I think you're correct for the reasoning. My concern is mostly around editors seeing ANN now marked as Reliable, and increasing this even further. This isn't a reason for ANN not to be included, but just a concern that some editors may treat the list as
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as advertising, whereas the former is just "something cool/interesting that the writer found and wanted to share with their audience". I can envision valid use cases for the former in a Merchandising section along the lines of " was a popular source of licensed products including water bottles,
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on her website! For some reason it didn't click that her title of "writer" was a link to her writing credits. This doesn't include the Quora answers, but it does seem to include all the other things, so, there we go. I guess I can still email her if we need a fuller list, but that's probably
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consensus is too old and based on flimsy justifications. After a look at the discussion in question, I think I agree on that front. As such I think it's probably worth asking the question of if Friedman (and the yuricon site overall) still qualifies as a reliable source for such topics.
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or use of the source in other reliable sources. Anime Corner is the only one that has a chance, but I still don't believe it meets the bar for reliability. While it has been used in Anime Trending (which is marginally reliable), it has not been used in any other major sources and while
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Just following up. I missed the About Us page at first and found it afterwards, to which I already replied at the AFD. I think this source is very close to essentially being just a blog for Beveridge at this stage, but we do treat some authors as sources in their own right. --
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seems to be about Product Design/content marketing/branding and is currently working with AI. No posted editorial standards, etc. The content does appear to be better than the others mentioned, but Knowledge standards for reliability would presumably want some other positive
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I think the general issue is just that we don't have a great selection of sources in general. This goes not just for anime but also topics on all sorts of niche pop culture topics (while there's undoubtedly a better pick of sources for gaming topics, I'm sure if you held
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Re Anime UK News: Their website's about section does list a lot of contributors, though taking a brief look over their articles, it really appears like only the users with a profile picture write most of the articles, so maybe only articles by those users are reliable?
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Ok, sounds fair to me, but I'd say that we should be thorough with their posts, as I recall that some of them were based on some tweets from randoms users and other unofficial accounts. As long as their reports are based on official sources, I agree with citing them.
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Not the person you were asking, but IMO it's not a good source at all. It's just a random person's blog. No particular editorial standards/professional experience/assurance of quality/etc. Unless it happens to belong to someone who is relevant elsewhere, I'd not use
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Otaku USA definitely should be included. Personally, I think that Anime UK News is a reliable source, but to be honest, I don't know if it should be added as General or Situational, mainly due to much part of its staff that just use nicknames instead of their own
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in several articles. At the moment, I am neither for nor against citing this site, but I'd like to know if anyone knows better about the background of this site and whether it can be considered reliable. On the other hand, however, I have a slight suspicion of
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In terms of the ANN mention, that's a positive side, though it's rather minor. MangaBookshelf I'm not familiar with, but it seems just to be a dead blog run by two people? The American Media one, a radio show by John Biewen and Chris Farrell called Japan's Pop
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No objections to this. As Silvia noted, we should be doing that for all sources, but considering there's a clear bias and they often get cited when speaking about the reception of an anime / opinion-based topics, it would be good to have a clear reminder.
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It also seems a leap to say that anyone can write for them. Anyone can apply, yes, but not necessarily be approved. And I imagine they're at least turning away the people who can't spell, as a certain minimum quality is there when looking through their
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turn up the other sources she says she's written for (although maybe those don't matter if her contributions to ANN and Anifem are enough). No strong opinion on the guest reviews, but I'm assuming for the time being at least that they're not usable.
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is listed as writing for Honey's Anime, Anime Corner, a non-related content writing job and having briefly worked for J-Novel Club. No academic credentials, but a couple relevant websites, a writing position with a company and an industry position.
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loads the website header and news sidebar, but the entire space where the archive would be is blocked as an ad šŸ˜‚. At any rate, I have no objection to this additional warning, and it's probably already covered by RS guidelines against advertorials.
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fan website. I was wondering if it is allowed to use it as a source for a simple basic fact like a release date. I know that they should generally be avoided, but I feel that is always better to support that kind of information with some source.
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CBR was a great source that had many experienced writers and received numerous awards for their journalism throughout the 2000s and early 2010s. In 2016, they were acquired by Valnet and most of their writers left as they shifted to churnalism
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examples I've seen. ANN has a very left-bias as does a lot of media and we have biased sites such as Anime Feminist often used, so it can be useful to have sources on the other side that discuss censorship, fanservice, and adult content.
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This one shows extreme bias when referring to the 'disrespect' and judgements on why the changes were made. It seems to accurately report about changes between versions though, with video examples, so the information doesn't seem to be
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DarkeruTomoe said pretty much everything I would have said. Also worth noting their about page and most of their articles don't mention the contributors, so it's almost always impossible to know whether they have any actual experience.
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links to NicheGamer, which is specifically listed as unreliable as a website on the video game project. So I'd agree that amount of links don't really add creditability, but are more of an indication of amount of views/popularity as a
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Perhaps the listing should be updated to something along the lines of "pre-2016 reliable, 2016ā€“mid 2023 situational, mid 2023ā€“present unreliable". While in the time before AI but after the Valnet acquisition it did resort to a lot of
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I did find one issue. I went through reviews of some titles I'm familiar with and noticed that while they got most things right about Konosuba: Love for These Clothes of Desire, they said there's no fullscreen on PC which there is.
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I don't quite get it, do you have any doubts about her? With an eye to Erica's healthy skepticism and subjectivity like any other reviewer or author, I think Friedman is one of the best yuri experts in the English speaking space.
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Hi folks, based on the prevalence of ANN as a source across the encyclopedia, and the numerous references to it on this talk page as a standard against which to compare any other source, I feel like ANN is being treated as
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Limited Edition Whiskey Blend. It does occasionally feature obviously newsworthy topics like the piracy report. Maybe include a word of caution about ensuring the content constitutes due weight if the feed is whitelisted.
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that I imagine triggered this is essentially whether the article does or does not support the points written on the wiki / whether it's due weight based on the ANN article as an example where it's caused some dispute.
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In theory, yes. But last year I discovered that many lists like "animated shows with gay characters" are based on the fact that one of the editors of ANN considered, even openly in jest, a certain character as gay.
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I support adding these websites and only using their news based on reliable source (hope editors in the future read their news first to judge their source/s). These two will be another case of situational sources.
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Based on these two points, I think it's good practice to promote ANN to the main 'reliable' table (with the warning against the user-submitted part) to more prominently display it as a usable source for editors.
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Due to it not showing up on the current list, I'm wondering if everyone would be able to evaluate whether animecorner.me constitutes a reliable source. It is currently present on several pages, and is currently
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I added both websites to the situational section with wording based on how I feel the consensus has shown over various discussions. Feel free to tweak or revert my addition if you have a better wording in mind.
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came to the conclusion that the website was situational and should be treated in similar ways to Screen Rant, which I think makes sense. For ComicBook.com, there aren't many prior discussions, though there was
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Is Friedman still a reliable individual source of opinion and okay to cite for reviews and the yuri topics she (and the websites she contributed to) says she's an expert in- and, if the answer is "yes", then:
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sources that don't provide monetary compensation, as that was stated as the initial dismissal reason, but doesn't necessarily seem required for reliability. There's few enough quality anime sources as it is.
2508:; the former claim is objectively false and the latter claim is not inaccurate but is misleading as the censorship is actually done in Japan to comply with TV broadcasting standards and not by Crunchyroll ( 161:, and saw that there was a controversy section, and in it I saw a reference to Sankaku Complex and removed the entire section. I want to know whether we add them to the page as an unreliable source or not. 2152:
Considering all that, I don't think I see any reason not to consider it at least situational, though I would say I support listing it as generally reliable at least for non-controversial news or opinions.
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on the history of the yuri genre, which was published in 2022 (may or may not be reliable; I don't know anything about the publishing house), has written reviews and articles for ANN and Anime Feminist
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with a note regarding interest and advertorial pieces and its encyclopedia. While from my experience ANN and its contributors tend to have a liberal bias, I don't see that as much of a problem (as per
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The interest feed on the other hand seems to report on more tangential subjects and those not deemed notable(?) enough for the news feed. Examples include reader polls, and reporting on products like "
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this, with the various guidelines that Knowledge provides kept in mind. While I do have some concerns, ANN is one of the more prolific sources and is known for reliability. It's a source I often use.
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I don't think that's an indication of reliability. I mean, for example, a lot of articles continue to cite the Anime News Network encyclopedia, even though it's expressly listed as unreliable here.
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making it hard to know about the background of each contributor. I haven't checked yet Taykoban, but if it has been cited by reputable websites and publishers, I think that it should be included. -
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and frequent use of Twitter as a source, so perhaps with an even greater caveat that it shouldn't be used for news? Not quite sure about this one, so I would like to hear what others have to say.
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Those were just some of the first search results I saw, though upon looking into the website, they also described criticizing Crunchyroll's casting in Witch from Mercury as "neoliberal whining" (
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comes to their focus. What we have isn't perfect, sure, but it's good enough, and sometimes for some topics on Knowledge, good enough is what you have to settle for when it comes to sources.
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I think that she is reliable per the reasons mentioned above. I also think that we should just consider her articles valid for Knowledge purposes but not the guest authors contributions.
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Oh I have no problem with citing official accounts (even Anime News Network does it), what I have a problem with is them citing unofficial accounts like SugoiLite, which they have done
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over on the Video Game Project that seems to be going the way of their recent content being classed as unreliable between recent quality and business decisions/focus on AI content.
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article which are considered generally unreliable and situational, respectively. The second link lists a website titled "Sailor Moon Fan Network", which would definitely not meet
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where they've used ANN as a source but seemingly made up some extra details that can't be found on the ANN article or the original Japanese source such as English voice acting.
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I'm certainly happy to wait for others to weigh in, but I wouldn't have thought any of that mattered much... at least in terms of how Knowledge tends to look at what's reliable.
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reliable, with the exception of its user-submitted encyclopedia section. It seems like it would be more effective to just include it as a full entry with explanation in the
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any relevance from being posted on insidescanlation either, since that itself was discussed before as you mentioned and seemed to be deemed as only a self-published source.
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of her website again. Apparently she's responsive to emails, so I'll try asking later if she has a list of the things she's written and report back on what that turns up.
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standards whatsoever, because then that sets a precedent for citing those sources elsewhere generally, thus poisoning the well. That's my feeling on the matter, anyway.
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Nicholas Shefu has been the owner of Fulvue Drive-In.com for 14 years. He has done a lot of reviewing and has experience. he has also reviewed a number of anime.
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debuted. I was searching on various archived websites, but I couldn't find enough results from Kodansha or other online bookstores. However, I found this link
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article, you also have to include in your description that some images have some characters with heart-shaped pupils, I mention it because I've had problems.
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I did some checking and animecorner.me is currently cited as a source on over 50 articles. I think that should lend some weight towards it being credible.
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which were then apparently republished by those websites between 2012 and 2017. A couple of them are actually two different repostings of the same answer (
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Looking at the lack of sources for anime topics, I was wondering; what do you consider as the factors of reliability of a source for the anime project?
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If we discount those, that mainly leaves The Mary Sue, ANN, Anifem, and her book, as her reliable sources, along with her manga editing work and the
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Im against the using subjective opinion of the editors of a site (known for a certain political orientation) to substantiate any subjective issues.
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In terms of existing links, there are currently 256 links for NicheGamer.com on Knowledge, far more than the 40 for fulvuedrive-in. NicheGamer has
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In terms of doing it for a while, any with enough dedication can post something for years, such as Angry Video Game Nerd who started in 2004, but
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While I understand payment for articles does add a level of professional credit to a website, is there anything in the guidelines to say this is
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Since Kenshin 2023 still didn't have reviews by the most common sites, I've been searching other sites but I'm not sure if they are reliable:
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I see that the topic of Sankaku Complex was brought up nearly 8 months ago, now I want to bring it up again. I recently saw the article for
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Manganews.net looks like a no go unless I'm missing something. Can't see who is behind the site and reviews are just attributed to 'Jason'.
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boasts about the degrees of its writers, I couldn't find anything by them from other publications, though I didn't check super thoroughly.
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it states that as a volunteer writer for our LAN (LatestAnimeNews) blog, you will not receive monetary compensation for your contributions
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topics, who is not to be used to cite any controversial statements or BLPs. Earlier today I presented Friedman as a potential source at
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making both the news and interest sections reliable. They're definitely one of the web's pre-eminent anime news sources at this point.
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The second provided link is an original article from Yahoo Entertainment France which sourced an interview by The Natural Aristocrat.
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I'm not sure on this one. More than anything, I'd be concerned that some may immediately dismiss it due to the controversial opinions.
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In my opinion we should be kind of doing that anyway, for all of these sources, but yeah, I see no issue with adding such a clause.
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should be welcomed. As for the random licensed products, there's a clear line between that and advertorial in that the latter is
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wiki article, are Sankaku Complex and Anime Motivation the reliable and independent source for cite the references of any anime?
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contributions, but I'm not sure those would make too much of a difference. Overall, I think my opinion is generally unchanged.
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The other facet that made it situational is the presence of the "fan interest" feed, which was deemed to be unreliable in
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Since there doesn't seem to be any disagreement over how to treat Game Rant and Screen Rant, would there be no issue with
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be okay considering them to be marginally reliable but definitely not a "high-quality source" for controversial claims.
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I am not expressing any opinions towards whether this website is reliable or not, but I do note the first link lists a
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Aside from the notable domain, at first glance Anime.com seems like it'd be difficult to verify reliability? There's a
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I have no issues in general, but I'd be much more comfortable if there was at least a minimum of caution against their
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gospel, using sources from it as acceptable and anything not mentioned on it as unreliable without further scrutiny.
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Thanks. If it was discussed but not added to the ORS list, does it mean there was no consensus on its reliability?
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and pointed out that much of their recent content has not been reliable. A quick summary with a couple of quotes:
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Anyway, I don't know about Anime Corner, specifically. I'll leave that judgment up to more experienced editors.
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after all. The concern in that case is more that we don't want to let in particularly low quality sources with
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press release with headlines like "X anime cast announced", "X released Y date", and "X manga goes on hiatus".
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It may be a good idea to add url (ex. fandompost.com) next to the names. That's what I was searching for.
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The Natural Aristocrat has been sourced by websites like Yahoo, Express, and MSN just as a quick example:
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might be unreliable but the title reminds me to Sequential Art which we use so I wonder if it's reliable.
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So is there a clear outline of what makes a source worth considering as reliable for the anime project?
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https://thenaturalaristocrat.com/2023/04/29/japan-society-nyc-sailor-suit-and-machine-gun-film-review/
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I added ANN to the main reliable source table, feel free to update the description where needed. -
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which would make things more difficult in this more niche area, but is also sometimes done here.
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CBR founder Jonah Weiland shared a post, shared by another former CBR editor, of the CBR account
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That's how I missed it. I searched for "fandompost", but it's on the list as "Fandom Post". --
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Now that that's settled, let's discuss ComicBook.com and Comic Book Resources. For the latter,
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adding them to the situational section (which should also be converted to a table), correct?.
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LMAO I opened that link and it appeared as a completely blank page for me. It turns out that
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today, I see plenty of articles of comparable reporting quality as the main news feed (e.g.
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seems to be related to the Anitrendz site which is often acknowledged by winners of awards.
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https://techraptor.net/gaming/reviews/sword-art-online-fatal-bullet-review-fatal-mistakes
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Are articles on her website admissible as evidence of the notability of article topics?
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All that said, I don't really see any indicators of reliability for Latest Anime News.
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itself may not be reliable. I know we have different standards here, but there's an
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you can read all the history and information about Manga Jouhou site. the site has
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and just copies articles from other websites, which is no indication of anything.
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for possible use on another article pending an investigation on its reliability.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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https://kotaku.com/dragon-ball-pachinko-machine-probably-wont-happen-1828571545
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For CBR, I think that is a case-by-case situation; Hannah Collins, for example,
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writers are probably in a similar boat), and I think it's a similar case here.
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website appear to be reliable and cover the news as well. What do you think?
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I updated the wording of her entry on the list; hopefully there's no issues.
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I was trying to find sources for the release date of the March 2003 issue of
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both since they're all listicles so not exactly quality journalism, and as
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has various other journalistic experience. The outlet also seems to have
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These two website should be in the list of Anime/Manga reviews sources.
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this change, as I see no issues with it for all the reasons mentioned.
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I did a bit more searching. I did find Friedman's Mary Sue article
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Yuuki (Sword Art Online Character)
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are mentioned and it all seems pretty unprofessional generally.
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I suggest adding it to the list of unreliable sources per
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It'd be good to have a more experienced editor such as @
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I agree. It should be added to the unreliable section.
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claims she wrote for various other sources including
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computer cases, shaving razers, foo, bar, and baz."
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