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from the famous,, "bohemian"/ avant-garde art-house of Andy Warhol, and he briefly managed the band. The band saw little commercial success at the time but now The Underground is considered to be one of the most influential bands in rock, underground, experimental, and alternative music. And THAT sentence sums up my point perfectly - the roots of alternative music run DEEP and we had multiple terms for the musical genera. Alternative, Punk, New Wave, underground, experimental (Depeche Mode's early albums contain loads of experimental material). We were raving, most likely, before you were even born and Extacy was a LEGAL drug, for a time. We dressed to thrill, kill, and looked beautiful every time we went clubbing. When rap became increasingly popular, I kNEW that it was over and was so saddened to see it all end because we had the BESt times, the best clubs, drugs, clothes, and FUN!

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of the time as indiepop probably because if the word pop is too 'visible' or given 'equal status' it might be seen as 'chart pop' and therefore inferior) and Indie Dance (usually from that time in the 1990s when indie bands went dance after the Second Summer of Love). In American terms it looks like the emphasis is being put on the second word, so that Alternative Rock, Alternative Pop and Alternative Dance are sub-genres of Rock, Pop and Dance, with each featuring artists operating outside the mainstream (or at least deemed less 'MOR'/'chart friendly'/'Radio 2' etc)...with Alternative Dance being used for all those dance music acts like The Prodigy and The Chemical Brothers acceptable for a play down at '50p a pint night' (i.e indie/student nights in various University towns back in the day).

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occasion; more than once I've seen bands labeled "grunge" and "post-grunge", which given the nature of the genres isn't applicable). Furthermore, we don't include influences under the project scope, for the simple reason that that's out of the project parameters. Post-punk revival is an alt-rock genre specifically because it's alt-rock bands recontexualizing the post-punk sound in the alternative/indie rock vein. Allmusic lists alt-metal as a metal/hard rock genre, last I checked. Yes, tag any band that would be classified as indie rock with the project banner.

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I suppose those two conceptions are compatible with each other; and if the "indie" in "indie-pop" is to be taken at all literally, I guess a major-label artist who made non-mainstream pop might be "alternative" but not "indie" (as with "alternative rock" vs. "indie rock"?). 6074:"Where once the term 'Alt"alt pop'" was interchangeable with that of 'Indiepop'"indie pop" (with 'Alternative'"alternative" being the preferred American term for non-mainstream acts, and 'Indie'"indie" being favoured more in the United Kingdom), in the 21st Century the term started to be used less in conjunction with twee, jangly guitar acts who would be found in the indie charts and more with pop artists like 2788:. Since Tarc posted, we have suggested an alternate solution for the lead, but we are stuck on the issue of genres. I too invite anyone interested to come read what we have said so far and add insight / opinions. I had thought of asking other editors who watch AiC associated articles (songs, albums, members) on those article talk pages to come add to our discussion, but there is no way I want to be seen as 6942: 5548: 5975:"Where once the term 'Alt pop' was interchangeable with that of 'Indiepop' (with 'Alternative' being the preferred American term for non-mainstream acts, and 'Indie' being favoured more in the United Kingdom), in the 21st Century the the term started to be used less in conjunction with twee, jangly guitar acts who would be found in the indie charts and more with pop artists like 6910:. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are 6875:. 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always necessarily a consensus as to what subgenre best describes even one particular artist). It almost seems like the whole topic should be relegated to disambiguation pages! You know, like "'Alternative pop' or 'alt pop' can mean this or this or this or this or sometimes this, and that's all we're going to say." (:v: -->

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2) however by putting alternative pop into google as well as the indie pop section at wiki, you get the definition from Allmusic: "Alternative Pop/Rock is essentially a catch-all term for post-punk bands from the mid-'80s to the mid-'90s. Though there is a variety of musical styles within Alternative

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article, and have nominated it for FA status several times but have failed to garner enough supporters to further it beyond the nomination process. I believe the article absolutely fulfills the criteria, and I have gotten supports for promotion each time, just not enough. If anyone would mind looking

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article over a number of years now, and it is currently a Featured Article nominee. I wanted to post here to see if any editors would potentially be interested in doing a review. So far, there are 2/2 reviews supporting it for FA, but I wanted to reach out to some other related WikiProjects to see if

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has been going through a lengthy Good Article review, and is now close to being listed. There now needs to be a bit of tidying up done - trimming some excessive detail, and a bit of copy-editing, as well as building up the lead a bit more. This is one of the top viewed articles on Knowledge and is on

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Sorry, I didn't realzie that new wave has its own project. However, I stand by what I said about post-punk. Many post-punk bands (The Cure, New Order, U2, Echo and the Bunnymen, etc.) went on to pioneer alternative rock. By the way, Allmusic.com lists Joy Division as an alternative rock band. And

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I think the problem arose from differences between language terminology UK and US. In Britain we have generally put the emphasis on the 'Indie' part, so that 'Indie' is the genre (now regardless of being independently distributed or not) with the sub-genres being Indie Rock, Indie Pop (typeset a lot

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The term 'Alt pop' is being used quite a lot on blogs/websites these days...sometimes with 'Alt Pop' being interchangeable with 'Bedroom pop' (though the latter just redirects to Lo-Fi Music at the moment)...it really needs its own article as Alt pop is moving in a direction that has nowt to do with

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I WAS in the middle of re-writing portions of the "Alternative Rock" Wiki page because it gives the reader the impression that Alt-ROCK came first when it was quite the opposite. Electronic/synthesizer-heavy bands were the first bands with "The Velvet Underground" considered by many to have been the

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I suppose it could, looking at it as a subset, so to speak, of the Alt scene, but Alt-Pop was a logical path for the music to follow so I don't consider "Alt-Pop" to be a separate genre of the entire alternative music scene. There were SO MANY subsets of the entire scene that, if one were to "tease"

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was added when the article was created, and after this improvements, the quality scale of it wasn't reassessed. I search for a specific topic for it, but I don't find out, so I request here to discuss a new quality scale for the article. Its now rated as Start-Class, and I think it deserves to be at

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Hey everyone, I notice that the number of project GAs has exploded in the last two years or so, but the number of FAs is pretty much the same. Anyone currently working on articles they hope to get to Featured status? I would be down to help, and I can think of a few other editors who might pitch in.

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I was wondering if anybody could direct me towards some online archives or databases for searching music related magazines. I'm a college student so if its university related I can probably get access. I'm primarily looking for British music magazines at the moment like NME, Melody Maker, Wire, etc.

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Where is Allmusic's page on nu metal? I can't find it. The only place I see it mentioned is where it is under alternative metal. If no one answers me about bands like All-American rejects, Nickelback, Linkin Park etc., then I will take it upon myself to tag them under this project. By the way, it

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The American music industry has frequently lumped in all punk-derived music under 'alternative', but secondary sources by and large don't abide by this reductionism (and to emphasize, it's mainly the American record and radio industry that does this). Additionally, "alternative radio stations" don't

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As Indopug explained, it's not that big a deal. The project name makes it easy to understand what we're about, while the project description gives more detailed specifics. The lead isn't describing alt-rock as a subset of alternative music; it's simply avoid being overly redundant by using a synonym

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article was included in the WikiProject Alternative music in its very beginning, so I think I don't need to request it here again. I've been working on improvements for the article such as newspapers featured posts, magazines, campaigns, albuns and singles from its creation to today. As I said, the

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I'm wondering what happened to the monthly newsletter? It is listed under the tasks section as if it is an up-to-date element of the page. However, when I tried subscribing, it looked like the last update was from 2009. Am I looking in the incorrect space? Additionally, I believe a lot of the tasks

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No, it doesn't. As described above, it's common for artists to reject genre categorizations they don't like. Anyway, what Cantrell actually says is "We're a lot of different things... I don't quite know what the mixture is, but there's definitely metal, blues, rock and roll, maybe a touch of punk."

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because they have nine and we are comparing AiC article to Melvins because of the lead. I searched Knowledge high and low two nights ago and came up with nothing. Since AiC is a featured article, we are attempting to be very careful to reach consensus prior to amending the article. An answer to the

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That's alright. Just bear in mind that while Allmusic is a great resource, it's not the end-all be-all, and it can make mistakes, like any other reliable source. You always have to keep all other reliable sources in mind, and always value the biographies and genre page prose over the tags, which on

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Well I give up on the genres. Multiple times a day some IP adds or removes genres from the pages. They have now started adding allmusic.com and discogs as sources for the genres, which I personally don't consider reliable but there doesn't seem to be consensus on the matter anywhere I look. I guess

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Prior to "CAN" & "Neu!" was "The Velvet Underground", a band, of sorts (more of an experimental music effort) formed in 1967 by Lou Reed (who went on to be one of the greatest alternative music artists), John Cale, guitarist Sterling Morrison, and drummer Angus MacLise. The Underground sprang

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10) looking at the Talk:Indie pop page and noticing that a discussion about alt-pop has taken place, but it looks like the indie fans were not happy with all the pop acts appearing. same with alt-pop in regards to Alternative rock, as there is no mention of pop stars like Billie Eilish, Halsey and

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9) realising the information is not there so Knowledge must be a bit shit and useless and totally overrated...i.e. its not as good as all the reference books you used to get in Waterstones, The County Book Store, Dillions, The Works or Fopp....(mostly books by Colin Larkin published by Guinness or

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I have found the "list of songs recorded by" pages to be very useful but not all of the groups I'm interested in have list pages. I have used the various discography pages to assemble a list of Cake songs. It's still a work in progress and I'm not sure I have the necessary resources to fill in all

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Also, is anyone interested in helping me go and review the state of our current Featured Articles? Users have come and gone, and even the ones who have stayed might balk at some of the citing faux pas they've made years ago, so a couple of these pages could use some heavy improvement. I've already

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as alternative, but not post-punk. I really don't see what it would hurt adding Joy Division. Their influence on alternative music as a whole is massive. By the way, I think that Allmusic lists nu metal as a form of alternative metal. And what about bands like Nickelback, All-American Rejects,

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Allmusic has only added the alternative rock tag to the Joy Division entry on the site in the last year or so, even though the bio for the band their and their genre entries establish they aren't an alt-rock band. I actually contacted them about that, but they never replied regarding the issue. Nu

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The original idea behind the sentence was that alternative and indie rock are the broadest forms of alt-rock, and "other forms of alternative music" refers to more specific subgenres (ie. Britpop, shoegaze, goth, post-rock, etc.). The redundancy I wanted to avoid was writing ""alternative rock and

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1) even though indie pop on Knowledge (i.e. Indie pop a Musical genre: Indie pop is a music genre and subculture that combines guitar pop with DIY ethic in opposition to the style and tone of mainstream pop music. It originated from British post-punk in the late 1970s and subsequently generated a

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Although referenced by in-line citations, a user is reverting the edits due to the info being prior to the subject's recruitment, to which he says is irrelevant to the subject due to the info being prior to is association with the group. Although it is prior to the subject's recruitment, it gives

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Not at all hellbent. there is an established convention of BrE to treat bands as collective nouns always. so every band I see that is or was I change to are and were if they are a Brittish band or otherwise would be written about in BrE but when it comes to AmE we don't have that standard (if you

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Yes, I have that template on my watchlist, actually and did read that. ツ Your parsing that guideline (and the one by WesleyDodds of herding genres down to four) into a practical utilization is helpful. But going to articles such as Melvins and instituting that would cause havoc. Editors have such

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These are interesting insights. I'm sure I'm not the first to feel that it's hard to know what to do about these terminology/subgenre issues, when there's so much overlap and ambiguity, and meanings can arise and shift so quickly, and there are so very many artists out there (and yet there's not

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12) As the indie fans are not happy and seeing as all these alt-pop girls seem to be teen pop stars (as in pop stars in the chart who are teenagers/young woman not pop music aimed at teenyboppers, as that kind of traditional teen music is probably more a gay pop/queer pop thing now or stuff like

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It is treating alt-rock as a subset of alternative music. Just reading "alternative rock and indie rock, as well as other forms of alternative music." gives the impression that alternative rock, indie rock and more forms of music besides are subsets of alternative music. It's not avoiding being

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all with a top ten hit - therefore must be popular with record buyers who have heard the record on the radio, saw the track on TV or people online streaming the song. However, none of them appear in the articles about Teen pop, Indie pop, Alternative rock or Lo-fi music (bedroom pop)..which is

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and the ensuing 1989 Prayer Tour in the Music Career section. Some of his most well-known music has come from those two albums, and its odd to see little being mentioned otherwise. I hope that his page can someday reach Good Article and maybe even Featured Article status, but it's important to

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describe it as a descendant of alternative metal. I believe All-American Rejects is already tagged under the project, and Nickelback should be (being one of the key post-grunge bands of the 2000s), but Linkin Park is merely a nu metal band, and there's been past discussion about the fact that

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Both those books aren't the best sources for classifying artists under the genre, since they lump in groups that aren't considered alternative by a majority of sources. For example, the Thompson book includes entries on Culture Club, the Clash, Dead or Alive, Duran Duran, Ultravox, and (of all

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Consensus of sources doesn't categorize Joy Division as alt-rock; even Allmusic described it as a forerunner of the genre (per my explanation above) so Allmusic adding a genre tag to the side of the band's page recently doesn't mean much (particularly given Allmusic will add incorrect tags on

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For what it's worth, here are a couple of other appearances of these terms: Merriam-Webster.com has an entry for "alternative pop," defining it as "pop music that has broad appeal but that is produced by performers who are outside the musical mainstream and that is typically regarded as more

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Genre names don't work like scientific nomenclature, so having "Alternative" in the title isn't terribly important (see also: no direct relation between New Wave and New Wave of British Heavy Metal. As for your second question, the primary sources are Allmusic and Ian Christe's metal history

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include Joy Division and lots of other post-punk and new wave bands. Alternative music is not the same as 'alt rock', and 'alternative' was used long before the glossy commercial alt rock of the late 80s. That said, a project such as this should avoid the lack of focus that would result from

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Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Alt music will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in alternative music; as performers, promoters, producers, label owners, etc. We've created an event page on English Knowledge (please

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occasion are added indiscriminately. Allmusic doesn't have a page for nu metal since it considers nu metal a type of alternative metal (bear in mind that the Allmusic genre page on alternative metal hasn't been updated since around 2000); other sources like Ian Christe's heavy metal history

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A) Billie Eilish born 18 December 2001 (therefore aged 19 years) with 1 UK Number 1s / 7 UK Top 10s / 11 UK Top 40s / 15 UK Top 75s (on wiki they get around the alt pop thing by listing her as a singer/songwriter but songs like "Everything I Wanted" (stylized in all lowercase) is listed as

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starts "Alternative rock (also called alternative music, alt-rock or simply alternative)". Thus the article describes alt rock as equal to alternative music whereas the project describes alt-rock as a subset of alternative music. How did this discrepancy arise and how is it to be resolved?

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self-identify as an alternaitve rock band and, as they cleary state, they were influeced primarily by Seattle alt rock bands like Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Sunny Day Real Estate, etc. They just happen to be influenced by Black Sabbath, thus they get labled as "metal." I know that self

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The nomination has been open for a few weeks now, but has only gotten minimal attention. If someone from this project is capable of reviewing the article and providing their feedback, I'd greatly appreciate it - I'd hate for the nomination to be closed due to lack of comments. Thanks.

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it over and leaving comments/supporting if you feel so, I'd be very grateful. There does not seem to be many people willing to do reviews of it during the nomination process—I know she is a divisive figure—but I'm hoping I can gather some support to get an FA promotion. Thank you! --

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Looking for help particularly from editors familiar with hardcore punk, grindcore, queercore, and similar genres. I'm almost done with this draft but I took way too many notes on the group's musical style/politics, and I could use some help converting those notes to readable prose.

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identification does not usually matter, but in this case it is not just one band that is self-identifying as such. There are many, many others. I feel hopeless debating with someone who has been listening to alt rock since before I was born, but I am giving it a shot anyway. :)

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seems hell bent on changing "are" to "is" and "were" to "was" in band articles, despite the band names in question being collective nouns and dispite protests from other Wikipedians. There's an ongoing discussion about this that I would urge users to chime in on, here --

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I understand what you mean, but much of alternative metal (though not all of course) seems to be based in alternative rock. Much of the bands label themselves as alternative and many are influenced primary by alternative rock (especially grunge) bands. For instance

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These are currently merged when they refer to different eras, different sounds. I don't know enough to write them but I do know the current situation is awful. Thinking of taking down references to nu-folk in articles so people don't get confused. Please help.

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was reviewed and listed as a Good Article in 2008. (It has been tagged with sourcing concerns since Jan 2019.) I have done a GAR, and I feel that the article doesn't meet current GA criteria. The main contributors have been notified. Following the guidelines at

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Hoo boy, I think Flea is in bad shape. There have been months of people wandering by and adding unsourced stuff. Well thanks for the help guys. Indopug, protection policy doesn't really support random IP annoyances—it would have to be pretty heavy vandalism.

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which singles have sold over one million copies in the United Kingdom, along with sales figures. Though I see only four songs by artists that fall under this project (Oasis, New Order, Kings of Leon, and Gotye), it should be a useful reference nonetheless.

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This may be the wrong place to ask this and if so, I apologize. I'm relatively new to Knowledge editing and I've been able to figure out pretty much everything else on my own but am having trouble with this issue. Any schooling is appreciated... thanks!

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https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-radar/tate-mcrae-all-singing-all-dancing-alt-pop-superstar-2738001#:~:text=The%20teenage%20dance%2Fpop%20prodigy,has%20chart%20success%20in%20sight.&text=Last%20week%20Tate%20McRae%20broke,%27You%20Broke%20Me%20First%27

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If alt-pop is not going to get an article of its own it has to be put somewhere, as so many sites are using it, even though its quite a new term (it seems it was added to the indie pop page on 10 October 2020‎ by ABigBeast05‎) its even got an entry at

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thriving fanzine, label, and club and gig circuit) come up highlighted on three searches, two have the top like to a spotify playlist with girl in red (Indie pop/lo-fi/bedroom pop/indie rock/dream pop/alternative on wiki with alt-pop referred to at

609:, etc. I propose that they be placed under our WikiProject. And about the post-punk thing, I propose that all post-punk and new wave articles be placed under this WikiProject since they have both been labeled retroactively "alternative." Thanks. 6155:"Alternative music (or alternative rock) distinguished itself from pop by having distorted melodies, lyrical content that was more edgy or subversive, and generally appealed to a smaller audience of people who thought of themselves as outcasts". 5705:

B) Halsey born 29 September 1994 (now aged 26, but had her first USA chart entry as a teenager) with 2 UK Number 1s / 3 UK Top 10s / 11 UK Top 40s / 13 UK Top 75s and listed under a few genres on wiki including alternative pop which redirects to

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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Also, if someone could have a quick look at the article's structure/headings and section ordering, AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, and give me some feedback, that would be very helpful, as I have not worked on a band biography article before on wiki.

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metal isn't alternative rock; it's a modern update to metal. Additionally, any post-punk/New Wave band that went on to make alternative rock records have most likely already been tagged by the project (the ones you listed above already are).

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The following seminal (and not so seminal) alternative rock albums turn 20 this year. If we can collaborate to bring them upto featured status, we could pitch for a spot on the Main Page on the date of the 20th anniversary of their release:

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the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please

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User:Aoksjd brought it back to the Indie pop page on that date but it was deleted because it contained some orginal research. however something needs to be said about alt-pop somewhere on here because someone else might do the following:

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have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

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once before. I'd say, for accuracy purposes, we should rename this to WikiProject Alternative rock, but since this has been historically named otherwise, we could just stick with that. Remember this is just a Wikiproject name, and not

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I keen to locate sources for citations. I am currently using the following sources: Erik Morse's book; amg website; and music press articles, interviews and reviews. If anyone has any other source suggestions, please let me know.

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anyone would be interested or willing to participate in the review process. Given as divisive of a figure she is, it's been a bit difficult getting interest from editors, in spite of how high-traffic of an article it is. Thank you!

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P.S. even though I am in an area dealing with Alternative music and have referred to 'Cheesy pop', I am not using Cheesy pop as a snide negative. I actually like a lot of S/A/W's tunes and watched them on Sky Arts the other day.

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should be listed as a genre. This is meant to be a neutral notice to attract a wider discussion among music-oriented editors. I have my own opinion, but it is not expressed in this notice. Thank you, and the discussion link is

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pop music that has broad appeal but that is produced by performers who are outside the musical mainstream and that is typically regarded as more original, eclectic, or musically or intellectually challenging than most pop

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Westlife that you get for your mum at Christmas) cut and paste the info from indie pop revision history and stick it under the teen pop section where it might be extended on, added to and more appreciated by pop fans.

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will be the Main Page Featured Article soon. I unfortunately will be too busy that day to help maintain the article during the inevitable edit storm, so here's letting everyone else know to keep an eye on the page.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

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The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

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states that 'Dictionaries that are secondary for Knowledge but primary among linguists' but if every other website is using the term and if the dictionary has picked up on its popularity, it must be a trend?

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I would like to transport this discussion back to our AiC talk page, because it will alter how we proceed and I don't want to have us deciding in two places. I don't know the protocol; do we link this up?

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first Alternative band. However, two bands, "Neu!" (ca.1975)(ca.1970) and "CAN" were among the first to begin experimenting with heavy synthesizer use, repetitive drums, and two "CAN" tracks in particular,

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Maybe. I wouldn't protect it myself because I've been involved. If you guys think there is consensus for semi-protection for a while, feel free. On a side note, I'm thinking about putting some work into

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Billie Eilish is an indie pop phenomenal singer. She has Tourettes Syndrome yet she manages to write and perform her music. She is very original and even tape records sounds to use on her recordings.

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valid, referenced info of the reasons the subject was recruited. Nowhere is info prior to a subject's history with a group forbidden in an article page, especially when it is relevant to the topic.

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translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here:

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We don't use list class, for it's more helpful for us to gauge the quality of each list, just as the Discographies WikiProject does (which is sensible, given most of our lists are discographies).

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allergic reactions to the issue of genres. (I've had a few cases of hives my own self). This is why it would be nice to have a Knowledge style directive to stand on for precedent. Thanks again.

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Thank you for this (I mostly guard the gates against surreptitious addition of genres) and as well, thank you for adding quite a wise comment to our discussion on Alice in Chains. All the best

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I recently revived WikiProject Linkin Park (which I think has been inactive or semi-active). The project's scope includes LP as well as band members' side projects (Fort Minor, Dead by Sunrise,

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The reason it's called "WikiProject Alternative music" was to create consistency with the other music projects. It's definitely more intuitive for people when the word "music" is in the title.

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If you do then can you tell me what the credits and personnel are for "Stop Crying Your Heart Out", "Thank You for the Good Times" and "Shout It Out Loud" in the booklet please? Either on "

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I have a draft of a "guide to genres" guideline I was working on for music pages in my userspace years ago that I never finished. My rule of thumb was four genres in a band infobox, max.

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if anyone is interested. It would bring some recognition to a sometimes overlooked album. I saw Smashing Pumpkins a few weeks ago and someone sitting next to me was telling his wife that

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parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present.

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What's the easiest way to go about doing so? I once before turned a defunct WikiProject into a taskforce of this one (the Smashing Pumpkins project) and it was a very tedious process.

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strange in the case of Billie Eilish (isn't she one of the breakout stars of the last few years?) and Halsey...shouldn't they be mentioned somewhere in one or more of these articles?

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6) and do you know what happens when you google alt-pop, alt pop or alternative pop? yes that's right the indie pop page at wiki comes highlighted at the top (please see notes below)

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Hey it's been a while since we've had big drives here, but feel free to mention any alt-rock articles you're doing heavy work on here, so we can pool efforts and experience together.

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If the above proposal gets in the Top 10 based on the votes, there is a high likelihood of this bot being restored so your project will again see monthly updates of popular pages.

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A band isn't the final word on its genre. Otherwise, Motorhead couldn't be called metal, The Cure couldn't be called goth, and no one except for Mudhoney could be called grunge.

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When they first started, they were nu metal. Their new sound has been compared to Radiohead and Pink Floyd by some critics. If you'd like, you could listen to newer songs like

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since there are millions & millions of media worldwide.But, at least the words of a major band member deserves a certain amount of priority since he's making the music.

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I have nominated the Lightening Bolt discography for deletion as I think it doesn't meet current standards of a Featured List, articles are typically reviewed for 2 weeks.

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C) Tate McRae, born July 1, 2003 (age 17) with 1 UK Top 10s / 1 UK Top 40s / 2 UK Top 75s and listed under the alt-pop genre on wiki which redirects to which redirects to

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during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.

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is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available

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in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!

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Pretty much just go ahead and do it. If you are uncertain about importance level or class assessment, leave those fields blank and someone will eventually fill them out.

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indiepop (less indie more 'Alternative Teen pop', especially with a lot of people using indie as shorthand for 'with guitars'). Until then I have added the following...

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A simple alternative, I would have thought, would be reword the lede of this project to say "alternative rock, also known as alternative music, as well as indie rock."

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in need of fixing. A good number of these are probably intended to mean alternative rock, but others possibly not. Any help with fixing these links is appreciated.

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etc.? Also, what about many indie band articles that aren't under the project? Can I simply add the tag to them since indie music is under our project? Thanks.

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In general I think membership timelines are useful for bands which have had a reasonable amount of membership change - I don't know if there's any policy on this?

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7) Think oh yes Knowledge! The largest and most-read reference work in history, one which is consistently one of the 15 most popular websites as ranked by Alexa.

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Check out the website Rocks Back Pages. Most of the stuff is pay to access, but they always have a selection of free articles. Google Books offers back issues of

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has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the

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for more details. If no progress is made, and nobody expresses an interest in working on the article, it is likely to be delisted after seven days have passed.

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pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of

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is an article started in 2008 by a briefly active new user who primarily edited this page, and it's sources exclusively using fansites. Should it even exist?

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and never have played exclusively alt-rock, so you can't base arguments upon that. The format started out as "rock of the '80s" before transforming into

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2021/04/12/is-billie-eilish-an-alternative-rocker-or-a-pop-star-according-to-the-charts-both/?sh=1fe7c51e427f

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The article is tagged as unreferenced. I've got some good books on Bauhaus that I could use to add references, but I have not yet done so, because....

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Aha, thanks. I had a feeling I'd read something to the effect of "try to be general" somewhere along the lien, but cpould not at all remember where.

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Remember that you can only link to official reproductions of old articles. If an article is reproduced on a fansite, don't link to it in the article.

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Actually after reading sources over the years, alternative metal doesn't seem to be widely accepted as an alt-rock subgenre, but rather a metal one.

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This project describes itself as for those interested in "alternative rock and indie rock, as well as other forms of alternative music." The article

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about how to write the name of the band's bar. It could use more opinions because there are very few people that have weighed in so far. Thank you.

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and creating articles for their albums. I think that they would fit as a part of this project. However, I'm unsure of the procedure for adding the

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Like I said on the proposal page, I think it would be better as a task force of Alt music (for example, see the Twenty One Pilots proposal below).

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to change the category name to "Albums produced or engineered by Steve Albini". If anyone has opinions on the matter, please take a look. Thanks.

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God, Smashing Pumpkins are probably my favorite band, but Billy Corgan tries his very best to kill my interest in whatever he is doing these days.

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has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the

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Why are "alternative pop" and "alt pop" redirects to this page. Whenever I see either term (and as I've exemplified in pages for albums like

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Playing around, I notice this project doesn't recognize List-class articles, even though it does recognize FL articles. Is that a mistake? –

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We'd have MUCH less violence in the world today if this generation of Millenials would just go out clubbing and stop being so damn serious.

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Hi, I got here from the section on how to publicize a Request for Comment, so I hope this is an apprpriate place. There is a discussion at

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look the majority of band articles are the singular over the plural) which is conducive with WP:Titles. To clarify Kohou's simplification.

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Yeah WesleyDodds and I cleaned up a few RHCP featured articles a few days back. If IPs are causing problems, why not protect the articles?—

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No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to

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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/bedroom-pop-billie-eilish-rex-orange-county-clairo-spotify-a9226256.html

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that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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to discuss the merits and to come up with some kind of policy regarding their use. Interested parties are encouraged to participate. --

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He's saying there's an element of blues in his band's music, not "We're a blues-rock band". Those are two very different statements.

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I'm sure you've seen them, succession boxes placed on song and album articles for those that reached number one on music charts. An

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that month? Compare its traffic to the Blur page, for instance. Funny thing is, it didn't pick up very many edits during that time.

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11) look at the Revision history for Alternative rock: and indie pop, and find something (by User:Aoksjd) that refers to alt-pop

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every once in a while. In regards to the other RHCP pages NSR77 used to keep an eye on, I'd say probably the biggest priority is

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is a featured article and it should be kept as accurate FA-worthy as possible, there's a discussion at the talk page on whether

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quality scale. I don't know if this is the right topic to request this, but, if someone knows one please let me know. Thanks --

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as Mid or High Importance? I'm leaning towards High since they very well are the most prominent/important Aussie alt-rock band.

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redundant at all; if it would be doing that it would only mention one of the synonyms thus "alternative rock and indie rock".

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explains that that project has been merged with this one, but the actual merger, which should have resulted in a page called

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an important yet complex subject. Any assistance, even if only to proof read one of the sections, would be much appreciated.

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Proposal to rename, where appropriate, national music charts articles to territory and format rather than official name, so

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You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that

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the genres are just doomed to be this way. I don't know how you guys handle dealing with these people on a daily basis. --

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2019/12/05/bts-billie-eilish-lizzo-lil-nas-x-who-was-the-breakout-star-of-2019/

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I apologize if the members of this WikiProject were already alerted somehow, but if not, I have proposed the creation of

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with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Alternative music.

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I am currently part way through this process. I have add the 'undergoing major reconstruction' tag within the article.

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I am posting here to advise that I have recently started to do a large overhaul, rewrite and expansion of thsi article.

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article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject

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If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the

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just announced and coming out on Saturday means A LOT of edits in the next few days. Keep an eye out for this one.

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https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/one-to-watch-beren-olivia-is-an-alt-pop-superstar-in-the-making__33478/2

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The British alternative pop-rock outfit has now earned 16.1 billion streams. — Hugh Mcintyre, Forbes, 27 May 2021

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about which genres, and how many genres, should be used to describe the artist in the article's infobox. Thanks,

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Thank you for your consideration. Please note that voting for proposals continues through December 12, 2016.

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because I like to keep up with what's going on in the charts (as there's more to music than just 80s acts at

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may seem from my tone that I'm being an ass, but I'm not; just trying to help the wiki's articles. Thanks.

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editors on Linkin Park articles haven't made convincing arguments based on sources for them being alt-rock.

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would be appreciated as it is a few days away from being archived if there is no further attention on it.

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and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my

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to articles, or articles to projects. I want to get consensus/permission before adding anything. Thanks.

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Yeah, I reference the articles sans the blog. Indopug, I'm sorry I forgot to include a link. Here it is:

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Actually this isn't strictly true. Two of the most prominent books on Alternative music, Dave Thompson's

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A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at

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I plan on rewriting some shoegaze articles so this blog was pretty helpful in collecting sources. --

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Thanks for replying. I also found this blog where someone scans select articles from back issues of

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Rock, they are all tied together since they existed outside of the mainstream" with the questions

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Further, there are over 260 proposals in all to review and vote for, across many aspects of wikis.

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that may put an end to all of the edit warring and inconsistency surround band member timelines. —

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To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to

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so is alt-pop actually alternative, is it indie pop/Art pop etc or is it just chart pop/teen pop?

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them all apart into their separate contributions well, you'd go nuts trying to separate all of it!

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Actually, I came here requesting an answer to a question that has evolved from this discussion at

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original, eclectic, or musically or intellectually challenging than most pop music...called also

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The alternative pop icon confirmed the news with a tweet. — Lars Brandle, Billboard, 16 Dec. 2020

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Rock/Alternative 30 number-one singles at the bottom of their respective articles. For instance

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I have noticed that many alternative bands are not under this WikiProject. Good examples are:

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There is a discussion on the talk page about including genres in the infobox of the article on

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RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace

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Hello, the stub status of the "Flying Lesbians" Lemma could now be removed. Best, julius f2

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https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/culture/girl-in-red-bedroom-pops-bonafide-breakout-artist-is-back/

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Oh, I was in my early 20's back then; now I'm 57 and STILL listening to albums from the '80s!

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http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Alternative_music

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Slow going on the sources so far. Found a few things in Rolling Stone and Guitar player. --

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In that case, a)see above for possible lede change or b) call it "alternative rock music".

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https://www.asiaone.com/entertainment/20-cheesy-songs-1990s-you-cant-unhear-just-despacito

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https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/9560223/girl-in-red-debut-album-interview/

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I noticed that on Smith's article, there isn't much said about two of The Cure's albums:

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The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

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In that case, how about "alternative rock, including all its subgenres e.g. indie rock"?

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So then why is it called "alternative" metal? Do you have any sources to back this up?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/8rzxnw/what_do_you_consider_to_be_pure_pop/

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I have started a discussion regarding how Knowledge should define singles. Please go

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Post-punk and New Wave bands have never been retroactively labelled "alternative" by

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to bring it to FAC soon, but that is the one major source we are currently missing.

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If interested, please offer support for a WikiProject focused on psychedelic music.

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easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested,

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Proposal to change category name to "Albums produced or engineered by Steve Albini"

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https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-radar/chloe-moriondo-pop-punk-hero-interview-2914816

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https://dailybassandtreble.com/2019/04/09/billie-eilish-and-the-alt-pop-movement/

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https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/chloe-moriondo-blood-bunny-review-radar-2934902

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now if you look at the 'Is Merriam-Webster a credible source?' question you get:

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8) Going to wiki to find the information required and reading the indie pop page

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candidate. Please leave comments to help this list reach FL status. Thank you! –

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https://hitsdailydouble.com/the_bside&id=325984&title=girl-in-red-(AWAL)

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One of our most important articles, the page on Radiohead's landmark 1997 album

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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4) think what is this alt-pop thing that all these websites are going on about

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has been nominated for removal as a Featured List. You can view the nomination

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An editor is looking for some expert comment here. Can anyone here comment at

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For those of you who like working on discography pages, please take note that

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If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the

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that I think you may be interested in reviewing and perhaps even voting for:

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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Musicians#Create Member Section/Timeline Standards

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing

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please read the following discussion from the Alternative rock talk page...

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Tate McRae over there even though this is where searches are taking people.

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Doing some work on the above-mentioned article; would appreciate some help.

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https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/tate-mcrae-on-the-rise

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replacing the multiple subgenres of metal included in the infobox list. --

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for Featured Article status. If you could review the article and visit the

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The article suffered a drive-by renaming in 2009, changing the name from "

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User changing "are" to "is" and "were" to "was" in lots of band articles.

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perhaps this can now be made into a taskforce of this project? Thanks. --

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https://wyldemag.com/interviews/2020/4/17/the-wylde-interview-tate-mcrae

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single that was only released as a free addition to early copies of the

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Greetings, I added wikilinks "Quality operations" and "Popular pages".

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As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to

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question of genre limits in infoboxes would be helpful. Thanks muchly

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Is info relevant although it is prior to the subject? I added info on

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Requesting an new Assessment quality scale to 'The Narrative's article

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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Record Charts#National Albums/Music Charts

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https://www.theweddingsecret.co.uk/magazine/top-10-cheesy-pop-songs/

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After some thought over the past few days, my new idea is to merge "

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https://www.readdork.com/features/tate-mcrae-cover-interview-sept20

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covers it a bit, but I'm not sure what else there is, source-wise.

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https://purplemelonmu.com/2019/09/23/tate-mcrae-tear-myself-apart/

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3) decide to have a look at the 29 June 2021 One To Watch feature(

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is considered a studio album, if anyone would like to contribute.

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https://www.tvguide.co.uk/titlesearch.asp?title=Trailblazers&

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One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

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Where/How do I nominate an article for quality class improvement?

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https://www.commonsensemedia.org/website-reviews/merriam-webster

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for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.

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IPs edit the page on occasion, so AFD might be the best course.

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should be longer, so if anyone wants to take a stab at it . . .

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RFC regarding use of succession boxes in song and album articles

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Knowledge:WikiProject Alternative music/Archive 7/Popular pages

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2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages

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and any feedback or edits to improve it are welcome. Thanks. ―

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I have opened up a debate section on the article's talk page.

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Cavetown (musician)#RfC on aromantic and transgender identity

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for information about this project and other music groups. --

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alternative%20pop

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talk page. Any further input would be greatly appreciated.

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to the Knowledge project. Your input would be appreciated.

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https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/52396/billie-eilish/

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Greetings WikiProject Alternative music/Archive 7 Members!

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Was the Olympics coverage in August really enough to make

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Knowledge:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alternative rock

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to provide your feedback, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

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No. Do you want to try a PROD first, or directly AfD it?—

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indie rock, as well as other forms of alternative rock".

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I've proposed adding a members timeline to the page for

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Table showing productivity/size of the 48 music projects

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I did. :) Pulled a large pile of sources last night for

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Other people might think of "alt-pop" as a synonym for

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article

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process can result in deletion without discussion, and

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my comment when I added the bit about alt pop here...

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address two of his band's most important works first.

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Singles that have sold over 1 million copies in the UK

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to meet the FAC, if you're interested in helping out!

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the blanks. At what point should I create the pages?

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