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Pumpkins, Radiohead, but maybe not for The Smiths, the Pixies, etc. High importance is where I think the vast majority of popular bands would go (Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails, Oasis, Weezer, Radiohead, White Stripes, The Cure etc) as well as seminal lesser-known bands (typical candidates would include Sonic Youth, Pixies, Husker Du, Replacements, Stone Roses). Those are my opening thoughts.
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consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by
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you probably are right that a hypothetical encyclopedia for alternative rock would place those other bands at a higher importance level, even though it's an injustice in my opinion. The band's been praised for being highly influential but they've also been mostly ignored by the press almost exclusively because of their name and supposed "inaccesibility." Thanks for your consideration, though.
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are ranked as such (high) they should be as well. They were one of the most successful indie touring bands in the '80s, and had at least a few "modern rock" radio hits (including "Pepper" which was a #1) in the '90s and '00s. Even their aformentioned peers have cited them as influences, or at least
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I's pretty much what you said. it's alternative rock bands on indie labels that are largely unconnected from the mainstream. Indie rock subgenres include lo-fi, slowcore, the post-punk revival, and indie pop. Beyond that, it's hard to be more precise, since the US and UK have somewhat differing
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proposal for an appreciation week to end on Knowledge Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who
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Well, after a bit of tinkering with the alternative rock template, I managed to get ratings worked out. You can add a rating to an article's alternative rock template by placing |class=X as a parameter of the template, where X is FA, GA, A, B, Start, or Stub.
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