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343:. My main conclusion is that vertical looks better when you have only a few articles (with short article names), particularly when the associated image is large. Of the four exmaples on my userpage, I think the Star Wars works a lot better on horizontal (it avoid the line breaks in the middle of article names); the Final Fantasy works well in both modes; the Halloween looks terrible in horizontal due to huge amount of whitespace (greenspace?); and the Solar system works better in horizontal mode when the image is small enough to keep everything on one line, as there's too much greenspace on the vertical. 196:, and the other wikiprojects for the various EU countries to all work together and try and get all of the countires in the EU as FA's. Or even all the countries then also all the articles linked as "Main article" from those articles. The same could be done for countries in Africa. Basically, this wikiprject is really redundant if it only works with or on one wikiproject at a time. We should work on ways of finding where active groups of editors who are not coordinating are working on related topics and try and get them to focus on a small grup of related articles. 1032:
territory is so new. By meeting all of the FL requirements, that list would easily be GA or A if such rankings were allowed for lists. I think similar arguments could be made for all topics with the possible exception of FFX and Halloween. That being said, I wouldn't mind adding the qualifier "most if not all" to the requirement, but the existing requirement was a compromise with the people who wanted all member articles to be FA. I don't think that crowd would be happy with a lowering of the requirements. --
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Because of this, a topic's most important articles can technically languish in GA status while editors struggle to get minor parts of the topic up to GA to make it a Featured topic. Wouldn't it be better if we linked the required state of the article directly to its importance? Perrhaps it's just in my particular area of expertise (ancient history), but it seems that in every topic, there will be articles with so little data on them that it's impractical to make them GA's, but the topic itself won't suffer.
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there is something in the way (such as an infobox), the topic is too big (e.g. any topic coverign all states of the US) or the articles' names too long (Star Wars). For (4), I would say go for a portal style sub-page.... a bit introducing / explaining the topic, the articles included in the Featured Topic (using either the vertical or horizonta box), plus potentially links to related material.
1053:"good list" criteria, it would fail with the one non-FL. Halloween is missing Halloween Film Series, Star Wars is missing Episode 6, and Final Fantasy Titles is missing 2,3,11 and 12. There's a mismatch between the existing standards as written and as as used, and I think the solution is, if not to lower the standards, then to at least allow some more flexibility into the process. -- 560:, and if you look there, you'll see the various options. (The page doesn't include the GA or FA icons; this is just me not including them to see what it would look like without, not me proposing they be abolished). It may that the image thing is a bad idea, in which case it can easily dropped or made optional. 3244:
We could break in into the broad groupings of "entertainment" (6 topics), "science" (5 topics), and "social studies" (2 topics). However, I don't think that it will be necessary until we have a few more topics, maybe around 25. You can find an experiment of mine with categories way back in the edit
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In that case, perhaps we could just change the wording to "every article in the topic is a featured article or featured list (with any limited subject matter items audited individually)" or something to that effect (or perhaps this could go in a footnote). This would be in keeping with the exemption
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Top-level topics like "scouting" are tricky. If you included all of the articles that branch off of the section headings in the main article you should be fine. However, you might find it easier to nominate a few smaller topics, such as "national scouting organizations" or "levels of the Boy Scouts
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That wasn't my point... there are GAs on many wikiprojects (e.g. Maths) that wouldn't get A-Class, because they hold A-Class as being a higher standard than GA. (Though I expect some are the other way round). Anyway, I feel it is imnportant to indicate that articles which aren't GA or FA are still of
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I think you are underestimating the quality of the articles without a star or disk; many of them are GA or A quality. The Canadian Elections topic, for example, is only missing Nunavut from being all featured. The Nunavut article meets all of the FL requirements, but is too short simply because the
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I like it. I also like just having the stars on fully featured topics rather than having FA stars all over the place. The images are nice, though not a big deal. I would also like the article counts to be included (maybe on the far-left of the header), because without them it would be a big hassle
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and put something like these box designs on each category page to indicate which articles in the category are part of the featured topic. If we went that route I might even suggest changing the name to 'featured categories'... while anyone could still add new pages to a category the 'featured' box on
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The topics that would be most useful as featured topics are all ones that probably have wikiprojects dedicated to them. I could imagine Featured topics such as all articles on currently functioning governments "The government of ....", or "The constitution of .....". Like with the Knowledge 0.5 and
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is broken for the newer featured lists as they do not have redirects from the old "boxes" link schema. I've gone ahead and made the change and removed "boxes" from the link. Have all the pages been moved to their new locations? Are there any other spots that might need fixed up that anyone knows of?
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I did not check the GA's but I suspect there are enough Scoutning related GAs that it woudl make an impressive addition but again we come back to the "obvious gap" problem. So what is the standard for relatedness and should we just aim for getting smaller batches of featured topics for now and wait
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I've thought a bit about that myself. If you wanted to break something into subtopics, you would have to do so in a way that was not arbitrary, and that made your subtopic a unified subject that would be worth researching on its own as a group. A good rule of thumb would be to ask yourself whether
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So far we have only one item that meets this criterion, so it's hard to make general statements, but more information becoming available would be quite a long-term process (consider Nunavut, which I don't think is holding another election till 2009). The short article checkmark should of course be
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Because the Featured Topic is a somewhat nebulous concept, we currently don't have individual project pages where one can specifically discuss, say, how to make ensure that the topic stays featured, how to make additions to the topic, how to improve the GAs to FAs etc. I suggest that we start such
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In both of these cases there are a lot of related articles that could be included. With the mini several of the other modles mentioned in the table at the bottom all redirect to the same place. Should they all have individual articles before FT is a option? How related does an article have to be
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There is thechnically no lower bound on article length for FA status, it just have to be comprehensive. As to the naming Objects in a system are named starting with a for the star and then proceeding based on when they are discovered (not based on proximity to the star). In a binary system one of
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For the same reason there's no planet b, c, or d- the star is Upsilon a, and the planets are Upsilons b, c, and d, as in objects in the Upsilon system a, b, c, and d. I guess everything gets lettered before they figure out what's a star and what's not. I could be wrong though, I'm not an astonomer
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I almost submitted this one, before realizing that it fails the criteria 5, i.e. that at least some of the articles are FA class. All 4 are GA though, so if anyone feels like pumping one up (probably the main article, no?) I think the topic would pass. I'm going to talk to WP Astronomy about it.
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stars were removed. Is this part of the new layout decision, or was it just someone couldn't be bothered to add them back in? Please let me know if there is any rationale not to have them, otherwise if I don't hear from anyone I'll add them back in. I find them extremely important to have because a
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I propose that we change the reqs to say that "most, if not all" articles should be GAs or FAs, especially the most important articles in the series. Especially since we actually only have 2 topics that fulfill the current requirement. Even the Canada Elections one would fail, and it has 14 FAs!
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It looks nice, but there's a problem. We can't use fair use images outside of the article itself. There might be some free use images hidden in those film and game articles, but we certainly can't use the logos. Also, shouldn't it be in alphabitical order? It seems odd to have the FF series and the
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For (1), I think horizontal is the way to go (in a full-width version). For (2), either could work, depending exactly how things are laid out. (Vertical in a column under Portals would work, as would horizontal under pictures or lists. For (3), I would say the default should be the vertical, unless
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In some cases a B-class can be acceptable, such as in cases where a member article is on too narrow a subject to ever get featured. Most of the time, however, you’re right, B’s shouldn’t be here. Most of the featured topics passed before B-class articles became less acceptable. In time they will
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Some have expressed reservation that the Simpsons topic had one non-GA article, but now it is taken care of. However, Topics: Solar System, Michigan State University and Canadian Elections all have an article that are below standard, so I suggest that those topics be given until 1 January, 2008 to
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I agree though I think in such a case (espcially this one scouting) even if the topic nominated is the boy scouts of america as the lead the article on scouting shoudl be in the topic. There is no reas that an article cant be in multiple topics even if it coudl eventually be the lead article in a
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I completely understand why the reqs are the way they are, I was there at the time, but my concern is that the way that the requirement is written, technically the only FTs we have that meet the criteria are Saffron and Retired Pacific Hurricanes. Canada elections has 14 Fls, but since there's no
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Maybe we should come up with some standards of in what order articles appear in the topic boxes. Right now we have a few different standards: alphabetical, release date, track number, distance from the Sun. There could be more even more; for example, most list of Canadian provinces, like in the
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was a featured topic would it be wrong to just propose the first 10, or the 10 most recent, and clarify that in the nomination? We haven't run into this problem, yet, but I thought I'd bring it up. If we do it that way, it wouldn't lower the criteria any. Supplementary nominations could simply be
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and thus even having a good B article makes our comprehensiveness better than the best professional encyclopedias already. Thus, I believe the less important corners of a topic don't necesarrily need to be GA's to be comprehensive. Now, on the flip side, Hatshepsut, Akhenaten, and Tutankhamun are
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Yes, I do agree that it looks a little strange with the "-" next to the nunavut timeline, especially given it's an "A class" article. But the point still remains that the whole set is NOT FA's. Is there absolutely no way that we can get the remaining article to FA?? I don't think we should just
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With regard to the ratings... it is not required that evry article has FA or GA status. However, any articles that don't must have A-class status, including proper referncing, and they will checked by the reviwers. However, it is easier to find an approprate wikiproject and let them sort it out.
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I disagree with putting in the "A" picture- while some projects use it as higher than GA, many projects don't use it at all, and technically you don't need to be GA-class first before A-class. As a result, A-class means something different on every single article. As there is no wikipedia-wide
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I think there should be some way of looking at the completeness of each topic, but I'm opposed to putting back the stars like they were before. The new layout is very neat, and I think those stars would make it too cluttered. Maybe we can think of another way of showing the number of FAs. For
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For example, if I tried to get my pet project, the 18th dynasty of ancient Egypt, to be a featured topic, I would just have to shape up Thutmose II, III, IV, and Amenhotep II and II, and Aye to be GA's, and a few of them FAs. However, even the most exhaustive of specialist encyclopedias on Egypt
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January 2008 seems quite reasonable (perhaps even more than reasonable). At some point we're gonna need a standard for when good/featured articles are demoted too, and in that case one would think the allotted restoration time should probably be something less than a year (probably more like a
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Yes, well, that's a ranking page. GA and FA are used by that system, however they are both also independant of it. And if there's been uproar about how easily an article can get GA, think how bad it would be if we started using a ranking that someone can just go and tag on without any criteria
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Can you think of a way to phrase that as official criteria that we can quote in FTC debates? You argument makes a lot of sense, but it seems like it would be hard to make a policy out of it. Everyone would have a different idea about how important a given article is relative to its quality.
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and not merely a collection of articles, the topic's more trivial corners don't necesarrily need to have exemplary articles, just sufficient articles such that the comprehensiveness of data on the topic does not suffer. Currently, a featured topic only needs GA's and some FA's indiscriminatly.
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observation is that it might be easier to have templates for each topic's box and just make the tag on the talk page something like {{FTbox|Saffron}} with the word "Saffron" refering to {{Knowledge:Featured topics/boxes/Saffron}}. Such templates could also have other uses at some point.
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If someone who knows a bit about the topic in question can point out a gap after less than five seconds thought, then the gap is an obvious one. That's rather subjective though... I think the most useful thing is to go through the topics main article and ensure any article linked using
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Mostly I was thinking that this project might server as a way to start a drive for some topics by finding a topic that overlaps several wikiprojects then trying to get them to coordinate for a week or a month on a small set of overlaping articles. We could for example try and get
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Would there be any opposition to my moving the FTs from Knowledge:Featured topics/boxes/X to Knowledge:Featured topics/X and setting them up as little projects on the talk pages? I think these projects have to develop some sort of "working definition" of the scope of each topic,
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currently GA's, and under current rules, that's just fine. However, it would be an atrocity if these, among the most important of all figures during the dynasty, were not required to be FA's. Basically, we should link importance more explicitly with required classification.
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The articles are well-referenced and well-written, and they share a common format. However, the main article is way too short; for an article about two stars and a system, you should be able to make it long enough to be featured. By the way, why is there no planet "a"?
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There have been a lot of users arguing that FTs need minimum standards. Many were arguing for all member articles to be featured, which seems like a bit too much IMO. As a compromise, we have to say that B-class articles are not good enough without a reasonable excuse.
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I didn't have nav-boxes in mind when designing them, I was thinking more along the lines of the boxes used in Portals and the WP:FC page. I guess I could make a horizontal variant, but I figured that vertical would be better since the items in the boxes form lists.
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Forgive me if this has been brought up before, but perhaps we finally have enough featured topics to create headings of specific subjects to place them under so that the list is more organized? What would probably work best is simple headings like on the list at
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is concerned, it is an "A Class" article which is technically above GA status, so it certainly shouldn't be seen as a liability. The only reason that it isn't an FA is that there are no sources for it and it is too short (due to recent existance of the topic).
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recommends to break it up into smaller lists, but for items in a series it should be the entire series. However, that becomes impractical and quite difficult to get all of them ready. However, what if the series could get broken up by number? For example, if
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How did something with articles on one album and two songs become from a band become FT? FTs should not have obvious gaps. What about their (Slayer's) musicology, band membership, other albums, etc? What a joke. Even limiting it to one album is a stretch.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with it. But I think the rules need to be tweaked a little. Perfection across the board is very hard to reach. I think any given topic of less than 20 articles that has at least three featured has done an impressive amount of
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If the topic is "The album 'Christ Illusion' and associated singles", then what are the obvious gaps? If there are any please say so, but everything you've listed here is outside of the given topic- the topic isn't "everything associated with Slayer".
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The reason I ask is because while those are all of Wilco's studio albums, it doesn't include their live album, EPs, singles, or collaborations with other artists. Would I have to get another album to FA and submit the topic as Category:Wilco albums?
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I'll suggest it again, we should directly tie required quality to topical importance. That'll allow the kind of flexability required to make comprehensive topics. I'm not sure how that would look, but I believe that is the right road to travel down.
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The FT criteria allow articles that are not GA or FA in special circumstances, but I think the Canadian elections topic is the only one that can take advantage of it right now. Getting the other ones to GA status by 2008 sounds reasonable.
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a main article could be written about the nominated group. In the case of US Presidents, I don't think that "the first 10" would work; it's too arbitrary and we wouldn't make a main article just about those ten individuals as a group. You
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You're absolutely right about the images. If the proposal gets implemented, then non fair use ones would have to be used (or no image at all). The order on the page was just the order I create things... I have re-ordered it alphabetically.
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is a very strong, active Project, with a gazillion FAs and a strong internal review process - have you approached them to inquire if they have any groupings of articles that might form a featured topic? And how about all of the FAs
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Yeah, I took care of all the talk page templates when we did the changeover. Sorry the Knowledge:Featured content didn't occur to me, but it works by a mechanism rather thank directly linking, so it didn't show up in 'What links
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I'm putting together a couple of possible candidates for FT for the Scouting WikiProject, and come up with a question that I can't find the answer to at the moment - are categories allowed in FT, or is it just articles and lists?
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Eh, each topic is so different that it would be hard to come up with one rule for all of them. I'm fine with just ordering them in whatever way makes sense, and if anyone disagrees, discussing it on the associated talk page.
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Yeah, if that page counts as a Knowledge-wide A-class rating system, then it also counts as a GA-class and FA-class ranking system. it's just a guideline telling you what it should look like, there's no reviewing involved.
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I don't know if anyone brought it up, but maybe the criteria could be that all articles covered in a topic must be GA or better. That way people will start looking at groups and bringing them up to a well defined level of
921:? It needs a bit of work, but it might do the job. Then again, it would probably be better to just scrap the template-in-template idea and design a nice tan template from scratch. We can leave the boxes for portals. -- 1901:
So I have found a few small clusters of FAs that I think will eventually end up here but I was wonering what the standard for completness was when trying to decide what articles belong in a topic? Several examples are:
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I agree the orange and green look bloody hideous togther, but I think we're stuck with it (short of changing the FT colour). I like the idea of using a sub-page... will work on it. I'll also try assemble a small verion.
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I have added the FA/GAstar templates back in and implemented the layout I suggested above. — (As an aside, I am disappointed with Final Fantasy X — with so many of them not even GA, how can the topic be featured?) —
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I'm not sure that GA or better is necesarrily the way to go... As I have said before, there is an extreme disparity between B class and GA class articles. B is anything better than just a start. If we're featuring a
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I also thought about sub pages as a main link. I don't think we could use categories as the main link because new users would add articles to the category without knowing that the pages have to be nominated first.
3457:) but it does not say that this has to be FA status. Rule 3 states that there should be about a 1/3 of articles which are FA, and the rest GA. So as long as List of Final Fantasy media is GA status then it is fine. 3006:
Remember that lists can't become Good Articles. I think that it should not be an absolute requirement that all articles be GA/FA/FL. However, I support the idea that it should be an exception, rather than the norm.
2664:) is not featurable due to limited subject matter. Perhaps we could adjust the requirements for the "all-featured" status to take this into account. Maybe we could even give the certified-complete short articles 822:, to match the color scheme in use throughout most of the top level pages. I'll try to make it a more concise proposal, and submit it for approval to each of the sub-featured pages. Pls reply in that thread. — 1429:
I agree with User:Thanatosimii. An A-class article is one that is almost ready to be nominated for FA status; by definition it must therefore be a GA and can get a GA disk quickly and without any trouble.
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Not necesarrily... GA is absorbed into the grading scheme used by many wikiprojects, but it quite predates that. GA articles which are rated as A class can still use the GA symbol, since they still are GA.
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One day we will, and the page will be very pretty, but I'm at a loss as how to categorize 13 FT's into sections that are all but 2 single-FT sections. If anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears, though.
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Yeah, that would be good for me, but I'm not sure why we would want to classify a page with "/boxes" in the title, if the content is going to be more project-oriented. Perhaps we could move those pages.--
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but it did not really give that insight on how to go about deciding on comprehensivness. I would think in this case we would need to improve the following all to A class articles before it could be a FT:
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I agree. The horizontal ones can all be the same size, so they would be good for the WP:FC page. Even on the small topics the wide ones look okay. The tall ones we can keep as an option for portals.
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On second thought, might it be a bad idea to make a talk page tag that is a different colour from all the other tags in use? I like the design, but can we justify being different from the standard? --
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election timelines, normally go from one coast to the other rather than alphabetically. We could either make all topics alphabetical or come up with a few standard models for them to follow. --
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My worry is that as time goes by and more information becomes available on a short article, how do we decide whether to make a topic loose its topic-star until the small article is promoted? --
1812: 529:, that isn't a bad idea, but I'm not sure if there will always be someone to write the mini-portal for each topic. It might be better to keep the gateways as just the list of articles. For 1126:"featured topic" should have an active drive towards getting all its contained articles to featured article status, and this is easiest if you can see at a glance which ones are missing. — 1743:
tacked on. Keeping the example of Presidents of the United States, the first 10 could be a featured topic, then once the next 10 are ready they could be added to the same topic. Comments?
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The topic will probably still be featured status, they don't all have to be featured; but if the change has significantly lowered the status of the overall topic, it should be listed at
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I've now created a project page for each of the current FTs. You can easily access these by clicking on the asterisk now in the header of each FT box. For example, the first one is
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to a similar question on the FC talk page. I really think we need to find a way to have a single link to a consistently designed page for each featured topic - for use on things like
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1.0 efforts it strikes me that working through the other wikiprojects and using this page as a stagging point track who has the most momentum or potential is probably the best idea.
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My only concern isthat it makes A-Class articles appear inferior to the other articles in the topic, when in fact A-Class is generally considered superior to GA... I suggest putting
156:) has put through recently in the realm of Biology and Enzymes - perhaps some of them form a group - if they don't, I'll bet he'll make one - he turns out a couple of FAs a month. 2779: 2094: 418:. Note that this now shows FTs by linking to just the 'top article'... which does nothing to define the scope of the topic. In the comment linked above I suggested sub-pages like 2704:#6 in that, despite a list that is unfeaturable due to length only, this should still be considered a "perfect" featured topic, and deserves recognition as such. If you look at 1871:
The one category that is presently part of a topic is from one of the older topics and has be grandfathered in. Eventually, it will have to find a main article or face FTRC. --
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Also, is there some way to fix the boxes so that the text is centered regardless of whether there's a picture or not? The Saffron topic in particular looks off balanced. --
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A few got in before that requirement was nailed down. They'll be taken off/fixed eventually, but right now we'd like to at least have something on the page, you know? --
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I said I'd do it when we got to 25, and now we have (though four of them will soon be up for FTRC). I've divided it into entertainment, science, and social studies. --
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I was thinking like Indian Independence movement and include the main players like Gandhi, Jinnah and the movement and resultant countries. atleast half a dozen there.
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I agree that categories aren't the way forward, and that there is a need for a page for the topic itself. So, there are several seperate requirements going on here:
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Nice work :-) However, I'm not sure if the vertical box look is the way to go... I'm more inclined towards a horizontal style nav-box that goes at the bottom.
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The ratings criteria has the caveat "except where achieving such a class is impossible." However, I agree that its odd that three of the five articles in the
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is a Curious Cat..." :-) anyway, done. For good mesaure, I've made sure the title is centre aligned, regardless of whether or not there's an FT star present.
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I've simplified how the title is done, so that one can have anything you want. The Star Wars cat link is now done along the same lines as the exsisting page.
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I agree, full-width horizontal. Although we have to have a separate discussion about whether it's a good idea to change from the existing list-format. For
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have to be either listed for review or improved, but I think most editors have been allowing small inconsistencies while this project takes time to grow. --
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As impressive as a full series of featured portals is, I think that featured topics is for encyclopedia content (as opposed to navigational tools). --
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All that is a way of saying "yea I think starting a project for each topic is a good idea". It sure would give these sorts of things a proper place.
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I would say, 3-4 months like you said, a quarter should be more than enough time, even if there are edit wars and other things to take into account.
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Should the FT box used on this page be included on the talk page of the topic's articles? (specifically, within the FT messagebox). Have a look at
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example, we could make the parameter that adds the FT icon to the upper left corner optionally add a regular FA icon with the number of FAs. --
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etc., so that we can better maintain and improve our FTs. We could link to these project pages from an asterisk in the FT box, for example.--
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topic except the two FA's seem to be unassessed. Is this allowed? It would make creating a scoutning featured topic pretty easy to justify.
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to double-check the totals on WP:FT. I would also kind of like the Star Wars category to not be linked in the same way that articles are. --
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If you're up to it, the lead article would have to be improved to GA status, as would Maldives and Sri Lanka. The topic should be called
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history, but when we have enough topics to make categories worth while we'll come to a consensus about how to lay out the new page. --
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The topic covers the history, usage, and biology of the plant. What else would you like to know about it to make it more complete? --
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states? They all contain B class or lower articles in them, which the guidelines specifically state aren't allowed (This includes the
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If you actually read the criteria, Rule 2 states "The topic has an introductory and summary lead article." (which in your case it is
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get those articles into GA status, therefore giving them time to work, but also finally closing this last quality gap for the topic.
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Yeah, go look, there's not anything else out there having to do with saffron. It's just not the most complicated topic ever. --
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Thank-you :-) Though most of the ideas (and especially the colour scheme) were Arctic Gnome's... anyone opposed to using this?
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jumped out when seeing your demos was the colour contrast between FC orange and TF green. They look pretty bad together. My
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has 36 articles and 13 sub-categories, what is the correct method for selecting a sub-topic in such a situation? I read the
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That would be interesting. It would make this page a bit more colourful than of the other FC projects. It might work. --
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has its sounds divided with half of the number of Featured topics, what about organizing the topics into sub-sections? --
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against the criteria and one day — perhaps January 2008 —this will be thoroughly enforced for the legacy FTs as well).--
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I thought I found all of the pages and templates that linked to the /box pages, but I guess I missed at least one. --
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Turning their work into featured topics should be a goal for the wikiprojects. If only they knew that we existed. --
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Thanks, so I guess that is the answer to my question. Fine an approprate wikiproject and let them sort it out.  :)
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Regarding the ratings and your comments match wat is on the page decsribing the requirments, I have to ask why the
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Anyway, I see no reason why we can't use both modes, according to which suits the particular topic list better.
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we are now having a talk about whether to include "higher level" articles within a sub-article's topic. --
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How on earth can a topic with a whopping 3 articles be considered complete and without gaps? ie, saffron.
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OK, template now supports having no image, and all fair use ones have been removed. Any other comments?
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to get some idea of what it would look like. I'm not really sure if it's worth doing or not, in truth.
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the category page would define those which make up a consistent and well written 'featured' group. --
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Oops, I meant to have article counts on the right and stars on the left. Switch those around and I
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Hey, I have a question about a featured topic candidate that I may be able to submit soon. All of
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Well how about arranging the articles in a list rather than flowing text with bullets in between:
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pages. I'm not sure if we will ever need these, but I'd like to see what people think of them.
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has recently been demoted from its Featured List status. However, it is the main article of the
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however, nominate a subtopic like "War-time US Presidents" or "Republican US Presidents". --
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Looking at the front side of this page, it doesn't seem that requirement is being followed.--
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I had the same idea for the talk pages, and I think it makes a lot of sense. The thing that
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This is related to a discussion which we are currently having in the Scouting WikiProject -
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where the GA/FA star would go for A-Class. See Star Wars episodes box above for an example.
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We should also give the Star Wars topic the same deadline to get itself a main article. --
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Knowledge talk:Featured topics#'Canadian_election_timelines' deserves the all-featured icon
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subject to review like everything else, perhaps on a regular (annual) basis or through the
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Hmm, I had forgotten about the requirement for main article. Alright, that works, I guess.
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Right now, links in talk pages of FTs and on the FC page link to the topic's box, such as
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If there are no objections, I'm going to try to implement this in the next day or so.--
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I oppose the color change as well for talk page templates- that bland tan color is the
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This is why I label lists that are referenced and accurate but not FL as A-class. --
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What happens if one of the articles in a Featured topic loses FA or GA status? --
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Following the discussion in the previous section, I'm proposing somethign like
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Jumping jackrabbits batman! That sounds great. Let's see what there's to do at
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I would just like to let people know that there's a great potential here with
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of America" (which would include, scouts, cubs, and ventures as articles). --
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process itself (after all, having a non-FA non-GA non-approved short article
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quarter). As to Nunavut and similar sitautions, see my suggestion above at
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series, as it is cherry picking). Is saffron the only real featured topic?--
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I would strengthen "a reasonable excuse" to "a exceptioally good reason".
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already is, can that qualify as a featured topic? Or do they have to be
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That's the point though- as a list, it can't be GA, it has to be FL. --
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I suggest that we formalize this deadline for legacy FTs with a note on
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As there have been no further comments, I shall implement the proposal.
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Has anybody thought of using this project to help create wikireaders (
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Seems to me that this page should work with the various wikiprojects
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Well, I think we've agreed that the main article should indeed be
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Countries in the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation
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Why do none of these featured topics actually qualify as far as
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I believe the 'Canadian election timelines' topic deserves the
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is a GA but would need a few other articles for its inclusion.
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A-class rating system, it shouldn't be used in the template. --
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Well done. This is getting to be a very nice-looking page. --
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Oh, and the horizontal would be suitable for listing topics on
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is an unrated former FA candidate. The lead article would be
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topic is included. It clearly does not meet the requirments.
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I made some FT boxes that one day could be used on portals or
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could be added when the last article is brought up to snuff.
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In the template. Gives an overview of the overall quality.
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Wow! This is a great proposal. Let's work on it. Cheers.--
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As a side note I noticed that all of the articles in the
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Great potential for South Asian countries featured topic
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pretend like it is an FA, that defeats the point of the
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I notice that when the new layout was implemented, the
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topic given as an example is there some reason that:
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I changed the boxes on the main page to templates at
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Sigh. You're right. How about an all tan version:
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That is a much nicer looking presentation. 2660:symbol because the one item that is not featured ( 2250:topic don't seem to have been assessed at all... 1675:I changed the boxes on the main page to templates 3279:I noticed today that the featured topics box on 2860:South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation 2824:South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation 1538: 466:Having some sort of gateway for the topic itself 2177:are included, though this won't get everything. 1950:History of merit badges (Boy Scouts of America) 3441:Knowledge:Featured topics/Final Fantasy titles 1962:Boy Scouts of America membership controversies 3641:Seeing that it's been a few months, and that 3362:be upgraded to GA, could I submit this with: 2449:We need project pages for each Featured Topic 1519:Should be shown whether articles are FA or GA 2470:Knowledge:Featured topics/boxes/Solar System 1257:Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back 194:Knowledge:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board 2930:Suggestion to get all articles to GA status 2079:Robert Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell 1136:I agree with re-adding the FA/GA stars. -- 957:That already is a requirement. It's #5 on 661:implementing your set-up. Nicely done. -- 457:Presenting the topic and its components on 451:Presenting the topic and its components on 2840:, and looks pretty close to a nomination. 2044:- This would be the lead article obviously 1232:Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith 1218:Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones 1007:don't even have an article on Thutmose II 777:Knowledge:Talk page templates#Small option 3432:Featured Topic with a non-FA main article 1681:Knowledge:Featured topics/boxes/topicname 416:Template:Announcements/New featured pages 1712:For the record, these were added to the 1268:Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi 3692:states' portals were featured, and the 1207:Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace 14: 3080:, where I've formally proposed this.-- 2456:Knowledge:Featured topics/Solar System 2323:Knowledge talk:Featured topic criteria 2014:Varsity Scouts (Boy Scouts of America) 1609:the starts will be a and the other b. 139:Knowledge:WikiProject Military history 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2896:You guys have my moral support. :) -- 1813:First Party System and the Presidency 818:change the Featured orange color, to 812:Knowledge talk:Featured content#Color 2567: 2543: 2533: 2074: 1907: 1687:, which will hopefuly end up on the 1474:wikipedia-wide A-class rating system 1251: 1121: 186:Knowledge:WikiProject European Union 25: 3519:And I see it's now a GA candidate. 1938:Eagle Scout (Boy Scouts of America) 219:Knowledge:What is a featured topic? 23: 2067:The Scout Association of Hong Kong 2022:Sea Scouts (Boy Scouts of America) 2010:Cub Scouts (Boy Scouts of America) 1996:before it is an "obvious gap"? 1926:Boy Scouts (Boy Scouts of America) 1918: 1807:I would suggest breaking it up by 548:Proposed new way of listing topics 341:User:Tompw/templates#FT_experiment 24: 3745: 3064:Knowledge:Featured topic criteria 2947:List of Nunavut general elections 2702:Knowledge:Featured topic criteria 2662:List of Nunavut general elections 2018:Venturing (Boy Scouts of America) 1852:Knowledge:Featured topic criteria 1649:Featured topic removal candidates 582:FFX series seperated like that.-- 422:. 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