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anyone? – and no, there is no suitable redirect). Very many Old Master biographies are still mainly EB 1911 or something even older, and we have hundreds of one-line stubs on major paintings (imo, one thing we don't need is more of these, but expansions of what we have). Non-Western art is mostly
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Western image a few years ago (Van Gogh sunflower?); I vaguely remember the discussion. It is visually clear and strong at small size, unexpected, and reflects some guilt at how poor our coverage of non-Western art is – above all Indian
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