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2318:- it does a completely different thing than authority control. This template is "look up resources about this topic in your library", while Authority control (which is a completely opaque term that people who aren't librarians/data nerds don't understand) lets you see resource pages about the topic in national databases like GND. Let's take a non-biographical example:
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