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as 2 different computers. I've also refreshed and attempted to play on different days. The funny thing is, I tried to play when I first made my account, too, and it worked fine (I just quit). Friendly people at Knowledge Live Chat pointed me here; but the original message hasn't received a response for almost a week, so I was wondering if you could help. Thank you. Cheers,
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Many of the images I had to add to the Earth article didn't seem like images that would be on such an article on the real Knowledge. This could be misleading. The whole game was also glitchy (for example, on many pages the "talk" "page history" etc. buttons were invisible, so I had to randomly click
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sorry to disturb you, because you're probably really busy, but we can't play TWA. As Yyeeetlol described, I can't press any white buttons; they just show blue outlines. I really want to play this reportedly awesome Knowledge-learning game! Personally, I've tried 2 browsers (Chrome and Edge), as well
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Thank you for playing. The topic choice is an interesting idea, but it would be effectively writing the adventure several times over so it's unlikely anyone will actually set that up. The point of the fake users is to provide an example of how real Wikipedians like myself behave, so I see how the
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article or a related one. The rewrite discussed above will teach you how to use an automatic tool to generate citations. I'm not sure what you mean re "talk" "page history" etc. buttons - I don't think you're ever told to click on such a button. This game has no concept of progress per se - very
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It was a bit too simple to be honest, a lot of it felt like a children's game. But I guess there are Knowledge editors of all ages so that's alright. It broke in some sections so I had to go back to where I started for some missions. Also the page for my Earth didn't show up properly I think.
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It's also a known issue that when using VisualEditor the boxes occasionally appear in awkward places - VisualEditor's Javascript scrolling and GuidedTour don't always mix perfectly. I tried to put it in a reasonable place all the time, but I may have missed some.
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little will break if you skip missions entirely other than leaving you confused. If you can point to specific places where the grammar is awkward I would be happy to reword them. And thank you for playing, and sorry that it had so many rough edges.
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Don't send duplicate badges or talk messages - if a mission expects a page to not exist then overwrite its entire content if it does, otherwise append content only if it doesn't already exist, staying in the same
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Mobile and Tablet Formatting Fails: While tested for most modern desktop and laptop browsers, the game is not configured to work properly on tablets and other smaller devices. It may, but we'd be getting lucky.
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It was really unnecessary to have the user interact with fake users, as children might misinterpret that these are NPCs or real users, and both interpretations could lead them to misconceptions about Wikipedian'
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If I were a bit more realistic, instead of creating an automatic user subpage for this game about the Earth, I would say that it would be a topic that you choose, because I don't know, if not, it's too
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I did indeed miss the original message, but I saw your first "I have the same problem" but didn't reply not thinking I could say anything useful. Anyway, this issue is known about and has been filed on
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You couldn't actually analyze the citations and had to guess their reliability by their titles. Also, the game provided the actual citation for you. I wanted to learn how to do that formatting myself.
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This game was entertaining and I really loved it. It teaches children well what Knowledge is like and this can easily be shown to a school so that the students of said school can play this. Awesome.
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Lingering Dialog Boxes: If you leave the tour without finishing, the guider dialog boxes will follow you until you out of them (this is a Guided Tours issue generally and there's no easy fix)
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There are only two bad things. First of all, there is a bug when I message the talk page, I have to move up the next step in order to pass. Last, I only got 14 out of 15 badges.
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Nothing, I just wish there was some sort of sequel, or new quests, or something like events, but I understand this is aimed especially at our young Knowledge editors :) --
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Hello, I'm not able to play TWA. I'm stuck on the "Login or create an account" popup, and when I press any button, it shows a blue outline but doesn't redirect me anywhere.
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Vector Only: If you're using monobook or modern etc., the layout won't work. Almost all new editors will be using Vector, so this is a known, acceptable trade-off (
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I decided to stop waiting for WMF's broken code review process to happen and instead work around the upstream issues. I intend to deploy this in a few days.
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Thank you for playing. I have no idea why you didn't get the verifiability badge when you should have, and probably won't ever be able to figure out.
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near the top to access it. Also, I know your progress "saves" after each "level" but I forgot what level I was on so had to start near the beginning.
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This has now been fixed (sooner then I expected because someone decided to backport it rather than waiting for the standard deployment schedule).
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second misconception is a misconception at all. And communication is so essential to Knowledge that it really does need to be demonstrated here.
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A few things are dependent on upstream patches to the GuidedTour code (i.e the "I'm logged in" screen should be auto-skipped but isn't pending
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Start over fresh with a new account: Like User:OcaasiTWA17 (these are legitimate alternate testing accounts and are not considered sockpuppets)
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Thanks for taking the time to look at my suggestions. I’ll go in in a couple of weeks and give some more specific examples and stuff. Cheers,
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The guided tour for edit summary dialog sometimes appears in weird places or isn't clickable for the VisualEditor version of the adventure (
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I liked how TWA covered most of Knowledge's main points like NPOV and BEBOLD. It's a pretty simple tutorial for new editors.
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Finish the game if you only played a few missions: Give some attention to missions 5-7 (which have been tested much less)
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to auto-load the sandbox version, but that workaround itself sometimes causes stray guiders to appear that shouldn't.
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I've updated the images to ones more relevant to the specific sections they're in, which are either used on the real
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There's no way to jump ahead if you are repeating steps or trying to get back to where you left off mid-mission. (
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I've mostly finished a rewrite of the Knowledge adventure to fix a bunch of bugs. Major changes include:
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I think it would be better for us to find a page we are actually interested in and get guidance there.
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your thoughts on the design: the theme, the guide, the characters, the colors, the images, the sounds
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It's a nice game. Thanks for making it. It's very glitchy, though. There were a few grammar errors.
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Doesn't scale to my preference of window size or scale symmetrically (ctrl 0/-/+). FF 25. (@start) (
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How marvelous it is that people all over the world have collaborated to create this unique resource,
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Messages now have proper timestamps and don't spew unused code (this part's already been deployed)
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Show the game to a friend or family member to see how they like it and if they get stuck anywhere
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Try a different browser: If you used Safari, try Firefox (or Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera...)
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The cool "space" design on every page, since it feels different than real Knowledge.
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which step of the tour you were on if something didn't work (see the step= in the url)
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Play the game all the way through. Do you get stuck anywhere? Is anything unclear?
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Yeah,that happened to me. I got out of it by clicking two times on empty space.
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Click REPLY so you can leave your message to Will but i have done that see
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Tell us what you liked about it, where we could improve, and what you learned
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I've added a warning to the home page to make it clear that it's broken.
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Send replies using DiscussionTools rather than the source editor.
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I can confirm this will indeed start working next Thursday (see
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Sit down, have a cup. While you're here something to muse on:'
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How many millions of people benefit from Knowledge every day,
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hi i am stuck on mission2 step=5 this part Write your reply
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