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The draft is based on understandable confusion. I think it arose from confusion that the 2016 series, aka series 23, would be considered the first year of a new series. In any case, if the mainspace redirect makes sense, so does a redirect from here. The target is apparently debatable, so redirect
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I don't think the confusion was reasonable. It was based on the belief that because there were new hosts, the series would be a completely new program, and there was never anything that stated that. All of the advertising and news articles pointed to it simply being a continuation of the existing
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Draft has no chance of becoming an article. There is no 2016 TV program called Top Gear. There only is a series 23 of the program that started in 2002. No point in wasting more of our time on this.
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would be more appropriate. A better way to stop the article being recreated by "someone who thinks there is a missing topic to be drafted", would be to salt the page. The already existing
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would not be appropriate, as this draft is about an entire show, not just one series ("season" in US terminology). Assuming Top Gear is not cancelled due to low ratings,
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Nom is correct. This draft was created on the assumption that series 23 of Top Gear was going to be a whole new show. It's not so this draft serves no purpose. --
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Indeed, salting the draft page is possible but, as I said, redirecting the page to the article for a single series of the programme is not appropriate anyway. --
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Topic is already an article. Redirection is appropriate for accidental content forks because if one person has made the mistake already, so could others. --
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Can you imagine someone attempting to draft "Top Gear (2016 TV series)"? It has happened already. Deletion of mistakes dooms for them to be repeated. --
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Agree that a redirect is not appropriate (or even useful) here. I can't imagine someone typing "Draft:Top Gear (2016 TV series)" into the search box.
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We're talking about a draft article here, not an article in article space so a cross-namespace redirect is not appropriate. In any case,
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As I've already pointed out, this draft is about the entire program, not a single season of it. If they are created,
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below.
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Why not? What better to do for someone who thinks there is a missing topic to be drafted? --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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could be fully protected to prevent it being recreated in article space. --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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program. That said, redirecting this to a redirect results in a
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Knowledge:Miscellany for deletion
talk page
deletion review
Ricky81682
talk
08:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Draft:Top Gear (2016 TV series)
Draft:Top Gear (2016 TV series)
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
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15:17, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
AussieLegend

15:37, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Top Gear (series 23)
Top Gear (2016 TV series)
SmokeyJoe
talk
02:51, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Top Gear (2016 TV series)
Top Gear (2002 TV series)
Top Gear (series 23)
Top Gear (series 24)

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