801:. The Portal is attractive and ergonomic; but I am not sure if it is useful or well-maintained. Even at the time when its up to FPoC, the selected biography is a stub. The selected article is at best start-class (two pages, no sections yet). All the portal's features (articles/bios/quotes/pictures), with the exception of news are updated monthly. DYK hasn't been updated for over a month now, and the new listing for august is again the same. Isn't a month a bit too much for updating contents? The candidate list is also empty so it is unlikely to get updated any more. I assume that this portal will work in tandem with the related Wikiproject. I went to the project page to find out if there would be any assistance, only to find that there are only 12 featurable articles (1 FA, 3 A, 1 GA, and 7 B-class); these are to be divided among the selected article and the selected bio, which leaves an average of 6 per section. Shouldn't the portal's main page contents be updated atleast once in a week? Looking at history of many pages I find that Phaedriel has done an excellent work considering she did so much on her own. I suggest to get a few more people from the Wikiproject, which will surely help things to speed up and help it get FPo status. —
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itself). All articles that appear on the main page should have been assessed as minimum B-class (I wonder if anything less can be considered
Knowledge's best work). According to your reply I find that there would be considerable number of such articles. They don't have to be unique everytime. Repetition is often required. Even if you have four articles, I prefer rotating them monthly by featuring each for a week, rather than keep a single one for a month together and rotate every 4 month. I know DYKs would be hard to find on this narrow topic, so even if you can find a DYK in every month (or two months), it should be fine. You don't need to keep a monthly archive. Archiving can be also done in groups of 10 (or 20) DYKs. There doesn't seem to be any problem with the news section. Try to get the quote section rotated every week. You don't need to always go for quote by indigenous people, you can also go for quotes on indigenous people. Also, I would like to see a complete listing of selected articles of the portal (I am not talking about archives). For example, see
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Knowledge's "best work" (which is a requirement for FPos). Also, I find it unlikely that a one or two page article would qualify as one. If they are high quality even being so small in length, then the scope of these article is so narrow that they shouldn't be presented on the main page. The article pointed by me above clearly can't be high quality (IMHO), as it is about the "most important Apache leader of 19th century". Also pardon my ignorance, but why the articles the portal points to isn't an actionable objection. One needs to just change the link from the main page to a summary of the other article. The fact that there are other "better articles" have been accepted and discussed by Phaedriel herself, with even a suggestive listing present, saving a lot of work. Also, I am concerned about the quality of the central theme article of the portal, which is currently rated "start-class". Something that will be
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field of expertise, you'd know why. Indigenous topics are a vast conglomeration filled with gray areas; and our modern ways of thinking and assigning categories to everything don't work with topics like this. Just for you info, at first I have named the
Wikiproject merely as Native Americans in the United States; then, when it became clear it was impossible to make such a separation because of the lack of sense in separating tribes and languages with a modern day frontier, I had to include Canada; and after that, Mexico... Indigenous topics are often vague and imprecise, and many times they have politics inherently involved. That's why I ask you, don't use a modern criteria to assign categories and search for solutions to matters like these; rest assured that the ideas you're offering have been thought already... over and over!
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the debate. However, I encourage you to remove the stub template from the article. Also, I would prefer other editors opinion on the issues mentioned in the debate. If you are interested, my assessment of this article would be "start minus". "Start", because it conforms to a start standards and not B-class standards, and "minus" because I am personally not aware of the subject, but the article mentions him as "the most important Apache leader of the 19th century". I thank you for providing the quick responses, but I am not convinced. The other major concern of mine, the quality of the central theme article of the portal hasn't been discussed in detail, but since it is likely to get the same kind of discussion, I would prefer to spend time with other articles I am currently working on. Regards, —
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approach than the one you chose for the reasons I expressed above, and which from my humble perspective, it is the kind that this topic needs. Dear Ambux, again, thank you so much for the deep and serious analysis, even if I disagree in part with your appreciation; I am totally convinced that your considerations are motivated entirely by your desire of improving the quality of our project as a whole. Warmest regards,
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incredibly larger number of excellent editors from that country, you being one of them. The possibilities that such a great amount of top-notch material offer you will never be at my disposal, and as such, I do think that your objection regarding the showcased contents this Portal has to offer are not actionable to a degree. In fact, I think you're literally comparing
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portal should be allowed to include it if it has a reason to. The other problem with using the V1.0 assessment scale, is that not every portal may have an associated project and even then an associated project may not use the rating system, so then the question is, how would one go about rating it's showcase article? Use the V1.0 scale anyway?
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until July 11, 2006. So it is not refreshed... Or do you see it in a different way? Medicine portal is a featured one. And you say that first I should fix my portal? It's not the best way of communicating for such an experienced and respected editor like you. So please concentrate on Your portal to make it featured. Thanks.
427:, perhaps two of the most experienced and knowledgeable users regarding Portals, I've steadily worked on this one, and I hereby submit it for your consideration and scrutiny. I believe it is ready to attain featured status; but if you feel it should be enhanced any further, just shoot please! :) Thank you in advance,
676:. It's a really petty formality, but some people are still out there with 800x600 monitors, and with the top picture being formatted to be 810px wide, plus (in most skins) the sidebar, it exceeds the width of those people's screens. The map at the end has the same problem. Can anything be done about this? -
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Maybe this is my first conflict on enwiki. :) Our first selected article appeared on the portal in this (May 24., 2006 — June 6.) week. So we started archive from that date. Now you can see in the same page that we have selected articles ready until August 22. You have an archive of selected articles
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Wikinews provides very little science news, so given the lack of material, I'm sad to note it would have to go. Since you didn't provide details, I had to guess what you meant on the grammar. Can you please give details now and/or in future? The excerpt was in fact revised - I'm sure you realise that
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Forget about rotating content. That was a suggestion, not an objection criteria. My point of objection was the quality of content. Yes, "quality" is ambiguous, but in many cases, it is easy to understand what is high quality and what is not. If an article is marked "stub", it can hardly be claimed to
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To end this, I wish to tell you that I've focused this initiative exactly as means of showing our material to both the members of our project and specially to the community at large, in order to get more interested people to work and enhance our articles on Native
American topics; this is a different
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Indigenous people of North America is, again, that is not actionable; it's not your fault at all, dear Ambux, but if these topics fell within your
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This is the best portal I have ever seen. It is so ergonomic, so well-maintained, so pleasent to look at. And do you want to talk about useful? Do you want to talk about the ideal Portal ?! This portal, put quite simply, NEEDS to be a featured one. It shows just how good portal's on
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Dear Sage and Lar, first of all, thank you for your kind comments and your support. If you don't mind, I'd like to address your concern regarding future updates, even if it's a minor one. Following Rlevse's and Kirill's advice, I've already prepared rotating contents for all sections (except News, of
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What immediately leaps out at me is the colour scheme. Although of course the silver and gold are apt, I find it hard to read the headings with the current colours. A darker gold would improve matters, I think. You could also, although this is only an option, not a requirement, automate the selected
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B-class. Two things about the showcase article in question: 1) it's rated Start by the project and 2) with just a tad of work, it could be B and even GA, but GA usually takes at least three weeks. As for other articles, it's unrealistic to expect every article a project works on to meet that and the
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Dear Heqs, your concern is extremely valid, and this serves to prove that two heads think better than one! :) I hereby invite you to take part into the update of the News section with Canada related contents, something that is a bit difficult for me to do as I hardly know any sources. If you prefer,
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would rate it as start-class, as another reviewer may have a different opinion; and it is impractical to insist that portals take responsibility for the quality of every article they showcase, as those articles may increase or decrease in quality depending on the actions of outside editors. So long
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I think you mis-read my intentions. I know you are much more experienced than me, and I was not commanding anything. I was saying that my perceptions were not unfounded (and I am not new to these things). Since we disagree, and unlikely to agree on this issue as it stands now, I think we should end
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On other points, I agree with you, and I will surely take action; I also think that the main article should be updated weekly, and I'll implement that system as soon as I possibly can (most likely after the update scheduled for Aug 1). But I sincerely don't see it necessarily as a flaw that rest of
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in the portal page, the quality of the article must be kept up to the mark. I am not asking it to be FA, but it would be a BIG compromise if it isn't even GA. When the changes in policy are discussed, this is the most important issue that I would want to discuss. I would encourage other editors to
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Phaedriel came to me before she submitted this as a FP candidate and asked for input. I asked Kirill to chime in. She listened to us and promptlly got working on it. KUDOS to her for this foresight and diligence. I think this is a fine portal and only needs tweaked to include
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Canadian and Mexican news, though, the Portal isn't ready to go featured. In fact, the more I
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Ok. Let me clarify. Given no background on the subject (which I don't), I will rate it start-class. But I may be over-evaluating the article because an equi-length article on a more important subject may still be a stub (I am saying maybe, and frankly I am not capable of rating the article myself,
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First of all, dear Ambux, thank you very much for your detailed analysis; it certainly reveals that you took the time and effort to dig deeply with with utmost seriousness on the merits of this Portal. I perfectly understand your concerns, which are valid when expressed the way you have. However,
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been convention to require a particular quality level for the articles showcased on the portal, and I strongly oppose imposing any such requirement out of the blue. The rotation schedule is fine as it is; there's really no difference between once-a-week and once-a-month rotation if the set of
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I believe I made a mistake of only mentioning the sky (for which this Portal should aspire for), and not the grounds (to make it a Featured Portal). So here's the solid ground that will get this portal my support: A minimum of GA status to the central theme (you may develop the current article
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I wonder if there might be a stylesheet or scripting solution for this? If there isn't my personal opinion is that the status quo will have to suffice. Most of us have 1024x768 or better now, and the map needs to be as large as is reasonably possible. It's better to have the inconvenience of a
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Unfortunately, no, dear Samsara. Of course, the top image can be resized (tho it looks very poorly in high resolution monitors, which the vast majority of people use) or simply removed. However, the map cannot be resized since it would lose greatly in terms of detail in resolutions higher than
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article etc. material. Finally, there only seems to have been one previous update of content, which makes it hard to know if it will be maintained in the future. However, I like the layout, and the pictures are excellent, although the selected one requires an image credit directly below it.-
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to judge this Portal's possibilities and usefulness; and again, friendly disagreeing with you, I believe that's wrong. There is no chance whatsoever that the contents available on Native American topics can ever match not in quantity nor in quality those on India, simply because there is an
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Theres atleast one international orginazation in only two of the three sections cause there is no "international mint". I'm ok with all your changes for now. I wasn't sure about the color, but maybe with all the white squares around the coins, it was best. oh well, thnx :)
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As far as "high quality" is concerned: once we get away from actual FAs, the quality ratings are (a) determined by WikiProjects, (b) largely informal, and (c) liable to change on a daily basis at times. It is disingenuous to suggest that the article is unsuitable because
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not knowing anything about the subject before I first read the article while evaluating this FPoC). Hope this is what you asked to clarify. PS: There is no official "minus" appended assessment. I copied it from the way credit rating agencies rank industries/economies. —
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The community consensus was to keep it – long before I started editing. I think you might be aware of the happenings as I happen to see similar involvement back in 14 January this year. However, allow me to suggest that any more discussions whether
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content. However, it has been pointed out above that this is ambigious and, without clarification, it is subjective. Therefore, I intend to propose an amendment to the criteria to provide basis for such an objection in
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course). Although I've recently added the option of submitting candidates for each section, I don't want to depend solely on that, and thus all contents for August are already set - see August's selected
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simply point out possible websites where to obtain future news and I'll take care of the rest. Congrats on a very good and valid point!
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Fyuh, finally, :P Thanks very much Kirill, its because of you! I'd never done something like this serious and extreme. Cheers again --
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I have fixed it (archives, thumbnail and WikiProject) except the list of topic, which I'll just wait for your answer. Cheers --
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with this one; when in fact, a comparison with other featured ones, closer in terms of available material should be more fair.
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Ah, thats better. I've tried to make it three columns, but I failed, so, thank you, for the edit and support! Take care --
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800x600. Since that map is a key section of the Portal, I must sadly conclude that your concern cannot be solved. Sorry :(
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the first truly excellent portal to come our way in a long while. --
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from me, as everything seems to have been fixed now; great work!
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I deleted two, the only two I could find you may be thinkin of.
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The "Category:" prefix should be hidden in the category listing.
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sugestions will not go unheard. Once again, thank you. Regards,
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I would really like to see the related portals have icons.--
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section could also be tidied up. Good portal nonetheless.--
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1112:As far as updates go, another useful quote from
388:Great-looking, informative portal. Nice work! --
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2014:now. Thanks for addressing my concerns.--
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