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1577:, I think there might be an additional argument that citing some but not others may bring up a question in some reviewers' minds of where exactly the material is coming from and how the article was constructed. In an article that's a community effort, we can't, of course, restrict anyone's right to ask for sourcing for just one fact, or the right of any editor to exercise independent judgment that there's a better source out there for a particular fact than the general textbook. I think Ruslik is just asking for the reason he states: use consistent formatting ... if you put cites at the end of some elements of a list, then cite every element ... otherwise readers may misunderstand. I'll do that now. - Dan 498:)", these units weren't spelled out or linked at the first occurrence. Per WP:MOSNUM, they don't need to be linked (since they're not obscure units) although they can be at first occurrence; but "In the main text, spell out the main units and use unit symbols or abbreviations for conversions in parentheses (e.g a pipe 5 centimetres (2 in) in diameter and 37 kilometres (23 mi) long). When there is consensus to do so, the main units may also be abbreviated in the main text after the first occurrence." - Dan 1143:
ancestor of the primates being: 77 Mya (Steiper, 2006), 64–80 Mya (Pace, 2007), 63–90 Mya (Martin, 1993), 81.5 Mya (Tavaré, 2002 - also thinks no more than 7% of primate species are represented by fossils), euprimates at 80–90 Mya (Martin, 2007) then I've seen the strep/hap divergence at: 50 Mya (Porter, 1997), 61 Mya (Yoder, 1997) and 80 (Martin, 2003) & (Tavaré, 2002). Though I do agree this needs to be clarified, I'll attempt to clear it up.
859:"Behind the scenes, many zoos, particularly those with Association of Zoos and Aquariums (AZA) accreditation, participate in the Species Survival Plan (SSP)": I doubt that this is "behind the scenes"; zoos that spend a lot of money on conservation probably trumpet their accomplishments. (The North Carolina Zoo, of which I'm a member, certainly does.) And there are two "many zoos" in a row; could these two sentences be combined? - Dan 376:"adaptations for a submarine lifestyle", even though we don't live underwater? Would it work to say this? "Not all primates are adapted for living primarily in trees, but all primates are adapted for climbing for many purposes, such as escaping predators." No need to list baboons, geladas, humans etc. here in the lead; that can stay in the relevant section. - Dan 889:"Zoos and other Animal Welfare supporters generally oppose Animal Rights and the GAPs insistence ...": I can't see how we can make "Animal Rights" a proper noun, so maybe "animal rights initiatives" would be better, and "GAPs" needs an apostrophe. Since this is a contentious topic, I'm going to leave this sentence alone. - Dan 449:(C-class) are more readable for non-biologists; as long as we have something for everyone, we've more than done our job. That's why people like Knowledge; we're easily the top content site in the world (we're 5th by hits, and most people headed to google.com or msn.com are on their way to somewhere else). - Dan 1016:"inbreeding, which can cause deleterious effects leading to a population bottleneck, whereby 50% of the population is lost": I don't get what you're trying to say here. Inbreeding might lead to a 10% or 100% loss, not always 50%. Are you saying that something special happens at the halfway point? - Dan 2119:"Richard Wrangham proposed that social systems of non-human primates are best classified by the amount of movement by females occurring between groups." Sounds more like a suggestion than a proposition to me. Changing proposed will also eliminate the repetition of "proposed" occurs in the next sentence. 1572:
Right, I understand, Jack. I'm going to fix this in the way that I think Ruslik wants ... which is to copy the citation that's currently meant for just the whole list to the end of each line that isn't cited by another source. If there were only one major editor on this article, as often happens at
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To clarify: I don't have a "general objection", but I made changes along these lines in my copyediting and asked for more changes here (such as my first two points). I just don't think the problem is unfixable, and I hate inefficiency more than anything; I'd rather get this stuff fixed now than have
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of 66.9–84.4 Mya) makes no mention of the strep/hap split. I recommend we follow the recent genetic study by Horvarth for lemurs, it has a much wider range than previous lemur studies (over 200 lemur species) though that leaves the question of where the strep/hap split was. I've seen the last common
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are important factors, but here's another factor you may or may not want to mention: common chimpanzees are incredibly strong (my local zookeepers say, 10 times as strong as humans in their long muscles) and very aggressive at times (and you never know which times). The real danger posed by chimps
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instructions, "Nominators are expected to respond positively to constructive criticism and to make an effort to address objections promptly." There have been substantial rewrites and changes, long delays, new images, and it is not clear to me if new images or sources have been vetted. Please make
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I originally cited every distinguishing characteristic (to the same source, which was a list of distinguishing characteristics), the someone recommended that I just reference the whole paragraph. The paragraph was then turned into a list, and then people added extra distinguishing characteristics
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here. Either your sources give enough weight for you to say that something is true (or at the least, that someone with at least a little credibility and solidity believes it to be true), or they don't. Words like "claim", "estimate" and "suggest", when used to undercut a source at the same time
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I'd recommend either defining exactly what you mean by "primitive ... body plan", or removing it; the following material defines what you mean in detail, and is easier to understand, too. Readers could quickly figure out what "body plan" means from the wikilink, but they still wouldn't get what
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Regarding "all species possess some adaptations for an arboreal lifestyle", I think I agree that it's a little unclear, but maybe I'm just not getting it because I'm not a biologist. We primates have backbones, one form of which first arose among our fish ancestors ... does that mean we have
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Nice job. I can't speak for Ruslik, but you've certainly been diligent dealing with his concerns; you answered my one remaining question; and neither SV nor anyone else has raised the concerns we saw before the restart, which I hope means that this round has fixed the problems to everyone's
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It would bother me; the distinction is artificial. Expository footnotes should also cite sources, at least for the assertions in the footnote, and many citations could use a word or two on the nature of the source. If your notes do fall neatly into two classes, it's harmless busywork.
1527:, there was agreement that "five digits on the fore and hind limbs with opposable thumbs and big toes" was exactly the kind of thing people didn't want to see line-by-line citations for, they wanted a cite to a general textbook, which is in the sentence that introduces the list. - Dan 420:
I was getting more at "arboreal lifestyle"; for one thing, the word "lifestyle" has been so overused and misused that it's almost a word to avoid now, at least in a general encyclopedia. I'll replace this with "climbing trees", but feel free to revert. - Dan
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This sentence conveys an impression, that UN Declaration somehow mentions primates (includes humans and excludes other primates). However the declaration just states that everybody (meaning humans) has some rights. Primates are not mentioned in it at
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and contains the two clades: the parvorder Platyrrhini that developed in South America and contains New World monkeys is one, and the parvorder Catarrhini that developed in Africa and contains the Old World monkeys, humans and the other apes in the
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In 2008, the Aye-aye family (Daubentoniidae) was confirmed to be a lemuriform and descended from the same ancestral lemur population that rafted to the island, it is contained within the Chiromyiformes infraorder, forming a sister clade to the
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I made the separation, per the comment. I only found two instances (humans inhabiting Antarctica and Article 6) but maybe I missed something. And, now that you reminded me, I need to get down to basement to finally start watching my DVD of
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Per MOSNUM, "Fully identify a currency on its first appearance (AU$ 52); subsequent occurrences are normally given without the country identification or currency article link (just $ 88), unless this would be unclear." - Dan
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this sounds as if a good sense of smell and stereoscopic vision are mutually exclusive, and you can't have both. Is that correct? I can't see any obvious reason why a dog, for example, couldn't be good with sight and smell,
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Okay, I've removed it for now. Btw, there are only 242 ghits for "primitive body plan", and some of those were not using the phrase in the specialized sense, so readers may have difficulty with the phrase. - Dan
1961:. It helps a bit with reading, e.g. I was a bit perplexed about the "every continent on Earth" statement, clicked the ref to see a citation, and it was an explanatory footnote lost in the sea of citations. :) 999:
To clarify, I hope it goes without saying, but don't throw this in there because it sounds good, add some version of this if it goes along with your thinking and it's already sourced or easily sourced. - Dan
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The reference used to source that statement said both "most carnivorous" and "only totally carnivorous" primate. I've changed it to say only carnivorous, and corrected the diet according to the reference.
2282:"There are 21 critically endangered primates, eight of which have remained on the IUCN's "The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates" list" Per MOSNUM, comparitive quantities should be written out the same; 1871:
I happy to support this article if my last concerns are addressed. Some copy-edit may be necessary as some weasel words are too overabundant (also, for instance). However I am an expert in criterion 1a.
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issue with the slightly greater emphasis on chimps (despite being a bonobo fan, myself), given that comparitively little research has been done on bonobos, given their rarity and geographic isolation.
1227:. However in the previous paragraph Aye-aye was listed together with lorises, not lemurs, and in the scheme in the next subsection Aye-aye has its own infraorder (Chiromyiformes). Please, clarify this. 1972:
I agree, I separate them myself (unless I'm being lazy, which is ... a lot :). But a lot of contributors don't like to separate them. My gut feeling is that we won't be able to get an agreement at
2307:"Accounting for 25% to 40% of the fruit-eating animals (by weight) within tropical rainforests, primates play an important role by dispersing seeds of many tree species." Important role in what? 826:"... manual dexterity allows them to perform tasks that a quadriplegic is physically unable to do": a little awkward. You don't need a lot of manual dexterity to surpass a quadriplegic. - Dan 1616:
It serves as a rigid support from which the scapula and free limb are suspended. This arrangement keeps the upper limb (arm) away from the thorax so that the arm has maximum range of movement.
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Although anthropoid primates could have made it to North America and island-hopped to South America during the Eocene, and Antarctica supported large, dense forests for a southern migration,
2261:"The mean endocranial volume is 1201 cubic centimeters in humans, 469 cm3 in gorillas, 400 cm3 in chimpanzees and 397 cm3 in orangutans." Is there a reason for the absence of conversions? 1206:
There are many species within those three families. The more recognisable subfamilies from Lorisidae are mentioned (lorises and pottos), I've changed it now to "lorids"; the family name.
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The term Chimpanzee is sometimes used in the article to just refer to the Common Chimpanzee. So the difference is higher and there is a problem with the consistency of the terminology.--
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I will support as soon as: I find out if my copyediting dealt sufficiently with SV's concerns, any new images and sources are vetted (per Sandy), and my previous comments are addressed.
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You're right, I've changed it to "trichromatic eyes evolved to...". Hope that isn't too technical, the phrase is used and defined further up the page in the colour vision paragraph.
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on the value of style guidelines, and tell me if that's in any way persuasive about the value of arguing this on the style page rather than in the middle of someone's FAC? - Dan
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Progress report: I'm doing a little more copyediting now. Jack, check my recent edits to make sure they're okay. Everything I wanted is taken care of now except for this:
2213:"Primate species each move variously by brachiation, bipedalism, leaping, arboreal and terrestrial quadrupedalism, climbing or knuckle-walking." What does "each" mean here? 703:"frugivore biomass": why not "fruit-eating animals (by weight)"? Again, is there some subtle, important distinction if you switch to terms everyone will understand? - Dan 2647: 2629: 1138:
Because of differences in genetic and fossil studies, there is no real consensus as to divergence points. The paper indicating that lorisiforms split 75 Mya (with a 95%
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P.S. The first occurrence was in the lead section, "Primates range in size from the 30 g (1 ounce) Pygmy Mouse Lemur to the 200 kg (440 pound) Mountain Gorilla." - Dan
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According to genetic studies, the lemurs of Madagascar diverged from the lorisiforms approximately 75 mya. These studies, as well as chromosomal and molecular evidence
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More readers will understand "social grooming" and "skin parasites"; is there a subtle and important difference in the terms "allogrooming" and "ectoparasites"? - Dan
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Comparative analyses have generated a more complete understanding of the relationship between sexual selection, natural selection, and mating systems in primates.
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Studies are helping to find the relative contribution of the various selective and non-selective mechanisms in sexual dimorphism evolution and expression.
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In this case it is better to remove citations from items altogether, because they create false impression that some information is cited and some is not.
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The main hominid molar cusp (hypocone) evolved in early primate history, while the cusp of the corresponding primitive lower molar (paraconid) was lost.
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Per M-W Unabridged, the eye is a "sensory organ" but vision is not. I'd prefer we avoid "color vision evolved to become the main sensory organ." - Dan
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As they increasingly relied on their stereoscopic colour vision, their sense of smell was less important and therefore was no longer selected for. See
672:"Tarsiers are the most carnivorous primates, exclusively eating insects, reptiles, amphibians and other live animals." The most, or the only? - Dan 2582:- redundant and removable statement - clades are rank free and it is completely normal to "variously" indicate positions relative to Linnean ranks. 441:
Reading the article with SlimVirgin's objection about readability in mind, I've decided I don't have a general objection on these grounds. All of
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Maybe it's just me who does it, but I sometimes put footnotes explaining a point seperate from citations, and use a, b, c, etc to denote them, qv
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Within the order Primates, humans are recognized as persons and protected in law by the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
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10) I would appreciate more information about hybrids. It is interesting topic. How long do hybrids live? Can they breed, or they infertile?
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Nope, they are the same thing. The terms were changed during GA review or FAC to allow easier comprehension for the layperson, along with a
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The suborder Strepsirrhini, ... is generally thought to have split off from the primitive primate line about 63 mya (million years ago),
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from Knowledge; after doing a good search I can't find an reliable reference to source the statement so I've reworded the sentence to:
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I don't know how you reviewers feel about inline citations at FAC ... I saw someone complaining about citations for every sentence at
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After looking at this again, McKenna & Bell weren't the first to follow this classification. Added information to reflect this.
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There are 21 critically endangered primates, 8 of which have remained on the IUCN's "The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates" list.
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can be transmitted to humans; in some cases the viruses produce potentially fatal diseases in both humans and non-human primates.
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Lemurs/lorids split then lemurs/aye-ayes split, so aye-aye is lemuriform (as opposed to lorisiform) but is not contained within
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Richard Wrangham proposed that social systems are best classified by the amount of movement by females occurring between groups
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The primate collar bone is retained as prominent element of the pectoral girdle; this allows the shoulder joint broad mobility.
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Some of these are zoonotic diseases that can also be transmitted to humans, most notably the potentially fatal Herpes B Virus
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Okay, that's it for me. I did most of the copyediting myself, but I didn't fix the things I listed above. See my standard
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I don't think I've done this one properly, the sentence won't really work if I elaborate too much on "primitive body plan".
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Despite the close evolutionary relationship, non-human primates (NHPs) are rarely granted the same legal rights as humans.
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12) Please clarify that posterior lobe is in Cerebellum (I initially thought that it is part of the cerebral hemispheres).
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The language here is not encyclopedic, especially "made it to". Please, clarify this sentence (split it in two sentences).
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Mentions of the Common Chimpanzee = 3, mentions of the Bonobo = 2. Not undue weight, when refering to chimpanzees both
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This is an important characteristic of primates; without extremely mobile forelimbs brachiation would not be possible.
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I still don't understand why there is such a disproportion between the mentions of Chimpanzees (meant as the
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During the Eocene, most of the northern continents were dominated by two groups, the adapids and the omomyids
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Or, "Some primates (including humans and baboons) do not live primarily in trees, but all primates ". - Dan
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Although primates are well studied in comparison to other animal groups, a number of new species are still
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Adapids survived until about 10 mya. Omomyids, on the other hand, perished about 20 million years earlier.
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Added reference to this statement, the reference has a picture of the width but no specific width value.
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According to genetic studies, the lemurs of Madagascar diverged from the lorisiforms approximately 75 my
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Image status was unclear before images were added, then some deleted, so I'm unsure where this stands.
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Please, clarify if this theory is applicable to all animals (and humans) or only to non-human primates?
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Brains are measured in cubic centimetres, I wouldn't have thought conversions would be very helpful.
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to say they have to be separated, but it wouldn't bother me at all if people want that change. - Dan
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In older classifications, the Primates were divided into two superfamilies: Prosimii and Anthropoidea
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the three remaining families that include the lorises, the Aye-aye, the galagos, and the pottos.
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is going too far. What's the right number of citations in these sections? Anyone? - Dan
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Prosimians have characteristics most like those of the earliest primates, and included...
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Neither animal welfare nor animal rights are proper nouns, corrected GAP's as suggested.
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Yes, I think that's a good judgment call, even though I tend to be stricter than some on
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It was a poor attempt to define population bottleneck, sadly I used the definition of
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Thanks Ruslik more very helpful comments, I'm trying my best to keep up with you.
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This section was cut down purposefully due to length constraints on the article.
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I used the second suggestion (but replaced the second "primate" with "species").
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Primate Taxonomy listed about 350 species of primates in 2001,:ref: the author,
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In 2008, the Aye-aye family, Daubentoniidae, was confirmed to be a lemuriform...
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Omomyids perished about 30 mya,:ref: while Adapids survived until about 10 mya.
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I hope my comments are helpful. I will continue tomorrow with other sections.
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I've mentioned that McKenna & Bell disregarded Prosimii and Anthropoidea.
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Am I out of practice on inline citations? The times I've seen it come up at
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Thanks for your time, hopefully we'll get this through soon in great shape!
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has an average of 1.5 sentences per paragraph; too short and stubby. - Dan
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Variously, both Euarchonta and Euarchontoglires are ranked as superorders.
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Quite right, Sept, they don't generally fall into two neat piles. - Dan
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They look really helpful, I'll get on to them as soon as I can. Cheers,
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Will do, think I might need to get some outsider opinion first though.
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the article fail and have to do this all over again in a month. - Dan
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In modern, cladistic reckonings, the Primates order is a true clade.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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The young Atlantic Ocean was not nearly as wide as it is today ...
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19) In the 'Interactions with humans' section there is sentence
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So I do not understand how many cusps humans have, five or four?
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13) In the list of features not all items have inline citations.
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Close behind came lorises and tarsiers, also African castaways.
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18) In the 'Social system' subsection the first sentence says
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They can have either 4 or 5. I've added it to the paragraph.
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5) In the fifth paragraph of the evolution subsection I read
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in the wild in turn triggers our own baser instincts. - Dan
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Like the lemurs, the New World monkeys had unclear origins.
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Soon after, the lorises and tarsiers made the same journey.
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4) I see another inaccurate statement (fourth paragraph)
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Prosimians most closely resemble early proto-primates,
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No difference, just more concise. I've changed it to:
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No further edits should be made to this page. 961:Data for some African cities show that half... 2736:No further edits should be made to this page. 2388:A few new species are discovered each year... 1823:Think I managed to remove an 'also' as well! 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 302:I've removed unclear wording, it now reads: 157:Do the images need to be rereviewed or not? 2570:Catarrhines are routinely trichromatic due 41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 650:... but surely the 16 cites to Ref 27 at 1096:(lead and Evolutionary history section) 765:Be consistent in meter vs. metre. - Dan 1266:You're right, removed offending words. 1198:3) I also read in the second paragraph 1131:. However in the next paragraph I read 941:that you're presenting the source, are 14: 2452:Biological anthropologist Colin Groves 2430:the Primates form a monophyletic clade 1758:Only non-human primates. Made change. 2574:Evolution of color vision in primates 2487:Primates have two forward-facing eyes 2243:or by a combination of these methods. 719:Making up between 25% and 40% of the 18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates 1935:The footnotes thing is mentioned at 1685:17) In Sexual dimorphism subsection 1365:. How old are those classifications? 1361:9) In the Classification subsection 188:The only additional image since the 23: 1498:Changed to more concise wikilink: 1127:2) In evolution subsection I read 288:. Does anyone else understand it? 24: 2748: 534:: "Avoid the unicode characters 2403:Primates discovered in the 2000s 2346:- the prose is much better now. 544:." Please replace "cm³". - Dan 490:), to the Gorilla, which is 200 247:satisfaction. Well done. - Dan 2515:- dominated or just occupied ? 2364:- is the past tense intended ? 2326:Thanks for the comments again. 2435:Changed to mention monophyly. 1337:Again unencyclopedic language. 1157:I hope you will clarify this. 978:All the things you mention in 779:Done. 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Index

Knowledge:Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates
User:SandyGeorgia

Primate
Jack
talk
good article
Jack
talk
12:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
old nom
WP:FAC
SandyGeorgia
Talk
23:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
have been addressed
Jack
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01:31, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Awadewit
talk
19:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
SandyGeorgia
Talk
02:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
images were reviewed
Image:Shanghai-monkey.jpg
Jack

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