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1168:. I created this, though I don't remember why anymore. I acknowledge that designation of something as sacred can be slippery (i.e. sacred to whom? when? how?--a category obviously overlooks important nuances in these matters, and perhaps most mountains are sacred to somebody). However, I did a random search of about ten pages in the category and every one of them did mention the sacredness of the mountain in the lede, which suggests it may be defining. I disagree that cultural interpretations can never be defining of preexisting physical objects, as DexDor seems to argue; however, I remain neutral here because I am unsure in this particular case. The logic here would also apply to the other members of 1195:- Maybe we need to delete all the relevant categories. This is categorizing something by its attribute to only some people, at some point. I think that's not just inherently fuzzy, and POV, it's also overcategorization. IMO, to be a "defining" attribute, recognition of the significance of the attribute has to be nearly universal. This may be true of a small number of places, but I think it's going to be much, much better to put them in a list, where exactly what "sacred" means, and to whom, can be laid out and verified. -- 1303: 1547:(for most/all of the articles in that category religion is a defining characteristic - the route wouldn't exist without religion) - both of which are OK. Renaming this category (e.g. to "Mountains that some people have considered to be sacred") doesn't make it a defining characteristic; mountain articles belong in geography categories, but not under religion, sport, tourism etc. 1490: 1583:-- Yes it does involve the subjective views of the worshippers. However, if any of the major religions considers a mountain to be sacred, I see no reason for it not being included. I would prefer the category to be split by religion, particularly as the view of each religion on the nature of their sanctity will vary, but that need not be an objection. 1486: 1527:
that confirm that this place (cave, mountain, whatever) has spiritual qualities ascribed to it such that is has earned the moniker sacred. It would be no different than lists of pilgrimage sites, etc - in fact, many of these sacred places are pilgrimage sites. If you'd like to propose a rename, I'd be open to hearing a better idea. --
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There's quite a difference between saying "Mount X is sacred" and saying "Religion Y considers Mount X to be sacred". Do reliable secondary sources really say the former ? As for most Google hits about a particular mountain being about a religious controversy - that could be just temporary; next year
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To reply to Dexdor: actually, no, I don't think there is a difference between the two. The definition of the category is places which religions or groups ascribe special spiritual qualities to. We aren't commenting on whether those qualities are real, but rather whether there are significant sources
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Delete Mountains are big, impressive landforms that are certain to have been "sacred" to traditional peoples pretty much everywhere, especially since aboriginal peoples have a laudable belief that the very land (or water) is sacred. So it's all sacred, to someone, at some time. The main article with
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My argument has nothing to do with the number of google hits. That was a google news search that shows that the phrase "sacred mountain" is widely applied to the San Francisco Peaks by newspapers. The newspapers use the phrase "sacred mountain" when they are referring to the San Francisco Peaks.
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I don't doubt that such massacres existed, nor that there are many more that haven't ever made the history books. However, we have a parent category that covers massacres across the United States, so I'm not sure why Alaska should be singled out - the category isn't big enough to divide by state at
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on google news for "sacred mountain"+"san francisco peaks"+flagstaff. The adjective+noun phrase "sacred mountain" is used over and over again about these mountains, not just because both the Navajo and the Hopi consider them sacred, but because the issue is at the heart of ongoing legal battles
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in Tibet cannot really be said to be anything but sacred. I would also oppose moves to delete the rest of the tree. There are many places in this world, and not many can have multiple verifiable sources that state that they are sacred - so as long as such sources exist, we should follow sources.
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a defining characteristic is one that reliable, secondary sources commonly and consistently define, in prose, the subject as having. For example: "Subject is an adjective noun ..." or "Subject, an adjective noun, ...". If such examples are common, each of adjective and noun may be deemed to be
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Does "places which religions or groups ascribe special spiritual qualities to" mean "places that one or more religions ascribe special spiritual qualities to (but the rest of humanity does not)" ? There isn't a "pilgrimage sites" category; there are lists and categories like
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by a religion, spirituality or people, and excludes man-made shrines (there are other categories for those). Which in turn doesn't mean that there couldn't be a built shrine also in a natural sacred place, but it is not its defining feature - the place itself is. --
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do you think is not satisfied here? (Is that search working for other people? When I just hit it it didn't go into the archives, so only gave the WP article as a result. It's necessary to look in the archives to see the hits). Here are examples:
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involving conflicts between property rights, native rights, rights of eminent domain, and so on. That's one sacred mountain (OK, really five of them) whose sacredness is discussed continually and explicitly in exactly the terms required by
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A bit too refined. The only extant article is already in the parent - I don't think we have too many articles here that we need to start dividing by state/region - and no reason that Alaska is singled out. Delete is sufficient here.
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I have been convinced that the only non-POV pushing way to apply this category is to apply it to every article we have on a mountain, and that would make it meaningless, so there is no point in having it.
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I think Alf.lylah.wa.laylah has it right here - defining characteristics are based on sources, not based on "intrinsic" or "extrinsic". While it's true that many mountains may have
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per Gabriel Yuji's statement. The latest news about the Dirty Pair universe was that a new manga started in 2010. There can be no doubt that something else can pop up; just yet. --
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characteristic of a geographical feature that has in most, if not all, cases existed for millions of years before humans. There are a few articles in the category (e.g.
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but I don't have great ideas on how to fix it yet. Perhaps it should not be a subcat, but rather referenced as a see also in this tree, to avoid such oddities? --
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for now - the arguments are not strong enough to delete. Sacred is most certainly defining for many of the locations on this list - for example,
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Sacredness absolutely is a defining characteristic of at least some mountains, so there should be a category. For an example try
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That article says "it would not be unrealistic to estimate that sacred natural sites must exist in the hundreds of thousands".
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sacred is subjective and not universally accepted. Some no doubt view all mountains as sacred and others view none as sacred.
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doesn't offer any indication of its sacredness, one assumes to the Denali people, other than its name means "the great one".
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if we have multiple sources that call it sacred, that's good enough for me. I don't see these cats mushrooming further. --
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sacred, there aren't that many which are regularly called sacred in our sources. That's what this cat should contain.--
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per Gabriel Yuji. This category has the potential for expansion as noted, so there's no valid reason to delete it. ···
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its list would be a better way to group and describe this. If kept, it should be pruned, I should think. For example,
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Only one page, which is a user's sandbox. Uncompleted user profile template as text. Is sub-category of
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Hmm... there are problems of scope and scale here then. For one thing, these are all under things like
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the mountain might be in the news because of a mineral discovery, a disaster or whatever.
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That a mountain has at some point been considered by some people to be sacred isn't a
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of the corresponding category in the German Knowledge, which in the end was deleted.
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on this, since efforts are underway to set some reasonable parameters for usage.
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is massacres by and massacres of. I understood. As you say, can be deleted. --
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to that, as I cannot see any lower level category that seems appropriate.
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ANKN.UAF Cassette Tapes : Tanana: Massacre at Nulato (Koyukon and English)
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per "The Dirty Pair's Great Adventures" 2011 manga mentioned by BZ.
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The cultural significance of a landmark seems pretty defining to me.
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They really do say the former, even in headlines. What part of
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Archives, University of Alaska, Fairbanks : Nulato massacre site
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Why does it have to be just one of the major religions? --
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
May 10
May 12
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deletion review
WP:C1
Fayenatic
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Category:People from jodhpur
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talk
history
links
watch
logs
Category:Living People
Category:People from Jodhpur
2.99.140.30
talk
19:32, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
...William
20:22, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Dimadick
talk
16:55, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Dr. ☠ Blofeld
17:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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