3742:- Highlighting my previous statement, JJB also mentioned that Yukichi Chuganji, Margaret Skeete, and who knows else were in an average of seven Knowledge lists under different criteria (likely 100 oldest men ever, list of Japanese supercentenarians, etc.), and deemed their appearance in those lists to "already be excessive" and proceeded to declare this as one of his supporting reasons for getting rid of Chuganji's and Skeete's articles, among others; JJB labours under the delusion that he creates policies on Knowledge and that they are supposed to be followed blindly. Since it is argued that since outside sources choose to grant coverage of "world's oldest persons", it is only proper that Knowledge articles be created and/or considered for them as long as enough information has been established, among other reasons. John J. Bulten believes that as they were all supercentenarians, it is thus appropriate for their articles to be deleted as batches, rather than as individual entities considered separately. As stated, in the batch of articles mass-nominated for deletion shown above, JJB attacked other users for submitting identical comments to each of those AfDs, whereas, as stated, he himself submitted identical comments to each of those AfDs with minimal changes to suit the article in a "one-size-fits-all" style, and voted on his own AfDs in a similar "one-size-fits-all" style.
3669:. The dispute was on whether or not some words were to be bolded. The article originally came WITH those bolded words; JJB elected to change them and attempted to pass it off almost immediately as new consensus, which was extremely rude and inconsiderate; etiquette dictates that the opposition should take the matter to talk and propose the new change there, not the defendant. Reading off from the timestamp of the warning, only one prior attempt by John J. Bulten was attempted to propose change to that article, to which no replies had yet been made.
4386:, JJB has been conducting a months-long, incredibly persistent pattern of lawyering, filibustering, POV nitpicking, spurious tagging, long-term slow edit-warring and casting personal aspersions, apparently partly motivated by the same agenda of biblical literalism that was also at issue here, and designed to wear down his opponents by the power of sheer obstinacy. The conflict fills two huge archive pages as well as a (still ongoing) Medcab case. I'm sorry I can't condense it into a few diffs, as I'm a total outsider to the conflict, but
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are not notable) is detrimental to
Knowledge's fair and efficient operation. BHG herself created the "list of supercentenarians by nation" idea in 2007, as a compromise for articles that were on the cusp of notability. It was also seen as a more-efficient organization scheme (by nation). We see a lot of categorization on Knowledge by nation for topics outside supercentenarians, whether it be "Canadian actors" or what have you.
3306:). I have an extremely high threshold for invective- I have PDD-NOS, and in real-life I can be rather abrasive at times- and due to my real-life interest in history I'm capable of cutting through such invective to the heart of an issue, so I'm not normally one to worry about people's tempers flaring; however, I could tell that things there were getting out of hand, and that people coming to this AfD without a
2911:"DavidinDC has been JJBulten's #2 man..." is untrue. I am #2 to no one. Well, maybe to my wife, if I know what's good for me. But seriously, as I've said before, I've never interacted with JJB except in the open, on-wiki. I'm a part of no cabal or conspiracy. If our respective edits are reviewed, this will be obvious. I'm genuinely hurt and insulted with every re-iteration of this unfounded calumny.
3511:) are being totally misconstrued, and if no one is able/willing to read carefully and point this out somewhere, it can completely derail a conversation. Not to mention that the last line of Ryoung122's comment comes extremely close to becoming a legal threat; even borderline threats have a serious chilling effect on discussion, which is the last thing this area needs.
3688:(2) spamming the same AfD message with minimal differences, , (3) broken multiple AfD contributing policies (such as not voting on your own AfD,, and (4) attempts, using spammed messages more than once to the same editor, and often to several different editors as well, to scare off editors who voted "keep" on articles he nominated for deletion.
3444:), but I also know that there are some things that, no matter how much I love, just aren't suitable for Knowledge. It is this distinction that the people at WikiProject World's Oldest People seem unable or unwilling to make, and along with the conflict between their and John J. Bulten's views is the crux of the issue here.
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DavidinDC had a conflict of interest and there's clear and convincing evidence that he "teamed" with JJBulten on 9 AFD's on a single day. He has let his ego get in the way of the issues. He makes false or biased comments about the reliability of sources or the availability of sources, falsely stating
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What part of telling the truth do you have a problem with, Sandstein? The article had more than zero sources, therefore the claim to have had "zero sources" is, at best, an incorrect falsehood. I was actually giving the editors some credit, that perhaps they were intelligent enough to be able to tell
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whose edits, and guidance to LD (and clerks) suggest that at least one party may not be quite as unavailable as we've been told. The focus on death dates, the interest in helping LD present his case, and the additional contacts with the clerks about oversighting two edits on the intitial request page
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Look everybody, im loyal to the GRG/WOP and ill do just about anything they want me to do, Robert young has more brain and experience in the subject of
Gerontology than any of us put together, and hes actually a nice guy once you get to know him, and with all due respect, its not Ryoung122 that got a
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Whenever one of your decisions made sense I acknowledged that, its you who make a bigger deal out of this than needs to be made out of it, and yes, 23 minutes in hell is something that interests me, and how would you know what interests me or not, I can be interested in whatever I want thank you very
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is another great comment, directed at me. Besides being a direct attack on me (telling me to "get a life"), it is also yet another symptom of what I'm talking about; some of those over at WikiProject World's Oldest People (including the person who made that comment) are unwilling or unable (I don't
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But the bigger issue is not that Bulten's comment is illogical. The bigger issue is that his editing (involving article degradation and deletion), POV-pushing, anti-scientific agenda (he claims that
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FALSE. Notability of an article is not disestablished by editorial decisions to remove flags. However, this is evidence that JJBulten (who brought BHG to this
Arbitration Request, even though she was not actively editing these articles for about 3 years now) has attempted to influence other editors
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I feel that as long as he presents his arguments in a RATIONAL manner, he can stay. But if he begins trying to convert or recruit members here who are also editors on
Knowledge (such as myself, DHanson317, and NickOrnstein), out he goes. The 110 Club is a place to discuss supercentenarians, and is
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Now, we have an editor who has identified past disputed, re-opened them, and attempted to fan the flames of controversy by merging disputes about supercentenarian articles from 2007 with JJBulten's own far-far-right, radical conservative agenda (I note that even
Christian apologist Arthur Custance
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on this page confirms that there's a fundamental disconnect between WP policies, guidelines and norms and the agenda of the newsgroup whose chatter he reproduces here. In the face of apparantly incorrigable, chronic disruption of the project, some form of remediation is mandatory. I don't envy the
4230:]. Longevitydude protests that he isn’t a sockpuppet of Kingcouey, they just share a computer. Several IPs vote in the same AfD; their votes were deleted. Apparently they live together and Kingcouey lets Longevitydude use the computer when he isn’t using it. Kingcouey indeffed as a sockpuppeteer.
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It has been clear, from the beginning, that JJBulten's motivations and operations on
Knowledge have been contrary to Knowledge policy, and have involved POV-pushing, canvassing, scheming, plotting, bullying, intimidation, misuse of the system, wasting people's time, and most of all, editing in a
3440:. This is where WikiProject World's Oldest People seems to have a problem with being far too attached to its own articles, another concern that was not addressed in the post on my talkpage. I love Japanese history as much as anyone (I'm going to grad school to study it, and I'm building my own
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I reply to a reiteration of previously imputed callousness. I grant that the castigation factor has been ramped down to "callous". Historically, the castigator has demonstated a far more robust repertoire of invective. But it keeps happening while he's putatively unavailable. It's kinda galling.
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First off, I am going to say this: that to categorically report every unfair/incorrect/false assertion made against me and others that believe that
Knowledge policies on notability and verifiability should result in a fair amount of coverage of supercentenarians on Knowledge, would be extremely
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This will be extremely brief; however, I would just like to say that Timneu22 has a valid point about
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I will admit some of the arguements are understandable, I mean some of my edits are wierd, but other than 23 minutes in hell, none of those articles are in my public interests, you didnt know that until I admitted that, but other than that one afd I would say timneu22 has a valid point in his
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Place argument and diffs which support your assertion; for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring.
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3334:: Brendanology's presentation of evidence is indicative of the behavior I noticed from some of the WikiProject World's Oldest People members at the Jan Goossenaerts AfD. While he has valid points to make, the way he presents them (especially some of the headers) serves to
3735:- JJB's line, "While further consensus is still sought at the discussion link in the nom, I believe it established that there is no consensus for biography-level notability inhering in single-source cases on such broad criteria", is saying one thing and then another.
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Aside from misspelling "apparently" and "incorrigible," DavidinDC's recently-added comments are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Rather than focus on the material, he's adding extraneous commentary about his wife, whatever. That's all irrelevant.
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more than once that articles had zero sources, or just one source, when in fact they had many. As usual, no amount of evidence is enough for David to "see" the sources, even when posted. One can check a myriad of AFD's, such as Asa Takii or Tase
Matsunaga.
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2936:"He should have recused himself as this was seeking THIRD-party input, not biased input." There's nothing unusual about a participant in an AfD also participating in a review of that deletion. I'm hard-pressed to think of a reason why there should be.
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for all actions of an editor (as those will have changed by the time people click on your links), although a link to a log for a specific article or a specific block log can be useful. Please make sure any page section links are permanent. See
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I'll tell you what shes doing, by taking away the flags, shes showing that there's no need for articles about supercentenarians in each nation. Shes making the way for me to delete articles on all the supercentenarians who arent the WOP.
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posted on my talkpage this afternoon. It definitely contains some interesting information, although I'm not sure how much weight you want to give it. I do think that the sword-wielding skeletons theory holds some weight here, and like
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Alexsandr, are you trying to say I should be banned because I disagree with you? I'm standing up for the Bible and you can call me narrow-minded all you want, I am proud of it, by pursecuting me you'll only increase my reward.
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3771:, John J. Bulten establishes a friends network on Knowledge which is inappropriate and disruptive given the nature of his behaviour. Despite stating "add your name here", he has been known to add names himself
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Walter Breuning, for example, is not a world's oldest person yet, but he has received substantial continuing coverage well beyond the local and "one event" rationale of a single line-item obituary:
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3327:, the situation there is definitely getting better; however, the fact that this wikiproject was able to maintain this huge walled garden for such a long time is somewhat disconcerting.
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for making identical comments on five AfDs when he has also spammed identical messages (see above). This has led to confusion and misconceptions about his aims owing to his hypocrisy.
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by calling my input "biased" is yet another example of the lack of civility that undergirds everything else about this case.
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QUOTE (Alexsandr @ Dec 27 2010, 11:43 AM) Read what he posts yesterday. he not here for good. Delete his account I think.
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made quite a valiant effort, and should be commended for it). A couple of days later, I happened across a thread on the
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User BrownHairedGirl has decided herself the necessity to remove all flags. Why she's doing this now, I do not know.
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explained to the user when it was suggested he would take this course of action, that I would report it, and here I am
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difficult, time-consuming, and perhaps detrimental to those who would not care to read a laborious list of misdeeds.
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removed some possibly useful, if somewhat awkwardly phrased, information with the edit summary "What trash is this?"
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Ryoung122 pushes for inclusion of material he has authored himself, in response to posts by uninvolved editors.
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some brand-spanking new incivility, and an indication of what "unavailable until after December 15th" means.
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DHanson317 Posted: Dec 25 2010, 11:18 PM Group: Members Posts: 40 Member No.: 1,043 Joined: 31-October 10
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reverted the addition of a person supported by a reliable source with the edit summary "What is this trash?"
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QUOTE (Brendanology @ Dec 17 2010, 10:07 AM) JJB has employed a number of tactics on Knowledge, including:
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a dispute on Knowledge over bolding words (touched upon previously above) a "war". That is a violation of
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Presenting evidence chronologically, as this is how I try and make sense of how things got into a mess.
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If I were him, I'd find it strange to be banned from the 110 Club before I have even made my first post.
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summarizes my experiences with RY. Over time he's accused me of being a homophobic, anti-porn cabalist.
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I have just, by googling, become aware of the extent of off-wiki canvassing in this dispute.
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not a recruiting ground or an extension of his practices on Knowledge.
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Alexsandr Posted: Dec 17 2010, 10:18 AM Report Post
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937:Brendanology: double-voting.
918:Brendanology, 220.191.3.207.
816:Brendanology, 220.191.3.207.
800:62.235.160.79, 94.227.30.79.
704:Editing about GRG and Young.
366:Conflict of interest reports
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4079:{Write your assertion here}
4065:15:07, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
4047:III. Response to DavidinDC
3626:Further discussion of this
2950:18:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
2884:archetypal RYoung122 screed
2693:Incivility and name-calling
2546:reflects the problem well.
905:DerbyCountyinNZ: synthesis.
740:Cjeales COI is per NealIRC.
195:Search archived proceedings
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4167:Gerontology Research Group
4009:II. Response to Sandstein
3811:John J. Bulten was uncivil
2551:honest, if misguided, view
2506:Leave Sumbuddi out of this
943:Mike Young: double-voting.
864:Kitia: Charging stupidity.
525:simple diff and link guide
240:Arbitrator motion requests
3436:being treated harshly at
3168:December 4, 2010 at 06:58
1017:Bold-warring symptomatic.
3878:From an outside source:
3868:I. Response to JJBulten
3578:Brendanology was uncivil
2699:RYoung's unique approach
2375:More recently, the user
889:Kitia: Noncommunication.
3819:negotiations by calling
3198:25 November 2010, 14:33
3192:25 November 2010, 11:57
2755:Still more name-calling
2549:Here's LongevityDude's
2333:he's voting in my favor
982:12.144.5.2 editing GRG.
788:ResidentAnthropologist.
719:Miscellaneous Ryoung122
536:within your own section
3417:enormous reams of text
3208:3 December 2008, 20:24
3155:Some notes concerning
508:will be more effective
4289:Virgin birth of Jesus
3728:replied on six AfDs (
940:Kitia: double-voting.
436:Track related changes
296:Arbitration Committee
136:Knowledge Arbitration
18:Knowledge:Arbitration
4176:User talk: Carcaroth
3724:- Pointing out that
3534:section. There was
3296:Jan Goossenaerts AfD
2846:Still more invective
2417:I was a part of the
770:Canada Jack, openly.
701:Self-identification.
245:Enforcement requests
173:Guide to arbitration
4324:Off-wiki canvassing
4235:User: Canadian Paul
4222:User: Longevitydude
4125:9 November 2008 On
3990:2. JJB's response:
3730:User:Jc iindyysgvxc
3708:User:Petervermaelen
3048:Additional comment:
2757:while unavailable.
613:Out-of-turn voting.
113:Drafting arbitrator
3489:Unification Church
3204:with that request.
3116:Today's edit by RY
2974:Here's my response
2938:Poisoning the well
2419:Elizabeth Kucinich
2377:continues to stalk
2237:it was good advice
2233:User:Longevitydude
714:Stealth. Defended.
547:/Proposed decision
267:Contentious topics
165:Arbitration policy
4311:article to NPOV.
4194:in February 2009
3978:Just my 2 cents.
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4097:User:NealRC
3509:David in DC
3422:Itsmejudith
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3137:David in DC
3098:David in DC
3063:David in DC
3033:David in DC
2999:David in DC
2984:David in DC
2942:David in DC
2850:David in DC
2817:David in DC
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2759:David in DC
2738:David in DC
2720:David in DC
2677:David in DC
2656:David in DC
2632:David in DC
2608:David in DC
2573:David in DC
953:Beawitness.
921:DHanson317.
825:DHanson317.
797:12.144.5.2.
621:POV-pushing
200:Ban appeals
178:Noticeboard
88:Case clerks
3367:ad hominem
3273:Sandstein
3131:. And the
3094:This essay
2783:still more
1038:References
987:Canvassing
875:Disruption
853:Harassment
724:Reference.
709:Canvassing
671:Reference.
593:Disruption
585:holocaust.
573:Harassment
568:Reference.
406:(pre-2016)
393:Statistics
326:Procedures
4413:Fut.Perf.
4192:Longevity
3830:→ Brendan
3784:→ Brendan
3596:This edit
3590:This edit
3584:This edit
3434:Asa Takii
3261:WP:BATTLE
3219:Sjakkalle
2710:this edit
2436:this diff
961:Ownership
843:Sbharris.
791:Sbharris.
767:Cam46136.
686:Ownership
543:/Workshop
532:talk page
331:Elections
30:Longevity
3845:contribs
3824:WP:CIVIL
3799:contribs
3767:As seen
3762:Facebook
3442:shamisen
3430:WP:UNDUE
3312:Timneu22
3304:WP:HOUND
3223:(Check!)
3212:declined
3202:complied
3052:verbatim
2980:And here
2968:his blog
2544:response
2390:Timneu22
2385:WP:POINT
2361:Timneu22
2338:Timneu22
2331:And now
2307:Timneu22
2282:Timneu22
2258:Timneu22
2253:this AfD
1008:Per FTN.
831:NealIRC.
773:Cjeales.
65:Workshop
54:Evidence
28: |
24: |
22:Requests
20: |
3817:started
3485:Moonies
3320:End COI
2559:digs in
932:Socking
653:Socking
403:Reports
341:History
321:Members
316:Contact
304:Discuss
168:(CU/OS)
4058:Ryoung
4036:Ryoung
4019:Ryoung
3890:JJB
3562:話して下さい
3545:話して下さい
3518:話して下さい
3451:話して下さい
3397:話して下さい
3376:話して下さい
3365:. The
3345:話して下さい
3265:WP:NPA
3125:WP:AGF
3121:WP:AGF
3085:, and
3079:WP:NOR
3021:, and
3015:WP:NOR
2734:Here's
2716:Here's
2562:deeper
2555:Here's
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2470:much.
992:Kitia.
776:Kitia.
761:Bduke.
346:Clerks
204:Report
101:&
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504:diffs
490:diffs
380:Audit
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4348:This
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3839:talk
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3387:here
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3355:This
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2645:And
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2387:. —
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897:POV
696:COI
520:log
271:Log
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